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kasparov in 64kb. i don't like 3d-flyby-stuff, but this is actually amazing. along with heaven7, the demo err intro of the year i'd say.
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BAM.
kasparov fur die konsum-generation. oder sumpting. furgieven meine sceissich deutsch. I'm completelisch stumpched.
Guys, you kick asses !
You pushed again the limits !
You pushed again the limits !
Using 3D API DLL's like BIOS, is it correct? Where are limits? What is realy 64kB intro under Windows infrastructure?
argh. please.
if these comments continue, we may have to a dos lores softwarerendering version, just to prove that we do NOT use any hidden windows object generators or packing techniques. really. the only thing fr-08 uses is plain d3d for polygon drawing - nothing more, nothing less.
if these comments continue, we may have to a dos lores softwarerendering version, just to prove that we do NOT use any hidden windows object generators or packing techniques. really. the only thing fr-08 uses is plain d3d for polygon drawing - nothing more, nothing less.
<please insert all kasparov' demo comments here> + <some emphasis>
Kicks ass, the music roqs, the visuals roq and the design isn't bad at all. Intro of the year in my opinion (even better than Heaven7).
On the bigscreen at TP it roqed even more, from the beginning on people sat there with open mouthes. Could have won the demo-compo as well.
On the bigscreen at TP it roqed even more, from the beginning on people sat there with open mouthes. Could have won the demo-compo as well.
This intro rock!!!
Intro of the year. Farbraush did a very good work.
Bon je vais avoir du boulot pour en faire autant (meme dans mes reves:)
Intro of the year. Farbraush did a very good work.
Bon je vais avoir du boulot pour en faire autant (meme dans mes reves:)
ehrm.. this intro really kicks ass :)
Maybee some effects to next time? ;) But anyways.. This intro is the best i've seen so far.. Nice music, Nice 3dscenes, and excellent textures! :)
For a demo it might be considered booring... but for a 64kb.. NOOP! :)
Maybee some effects to next time? ;) But anyways.. This intro is the best i've seen so far.. Nice music, Nice 3dscenes, and excellent textures! :)
For a demo it might be considered booring... but for a 64kb.. NOOP! :)
this prod is incredibly well done.
never been _that_ stunned from anything else after clicking an .exe file
and i really clicked a whole bunch of'em already ;)
lllove the well-synched-music, btw!
never been _that_ stunned from anything else after clicking an .exe file
and i really clicked a whole bunch of'em already ;)
lllove the well-synched-music, btw!
I ran it, saw a preloader bar while hearing shitty music. Anyway, i didn't care. Let's wait. Then the intro begins. Some 3d, good meshes, very good textures, good animation, no glitches. The *real* music starts as well. Good samples, good bassline. Everything's fine! The demo goes on and on and on. Will it ever stop? A scene, another, yet another, every time new scene, new objects, new all. Finally, the scroller. As usual, i wait longer than when they say 'press escape', and see that the demo continues. I couldn't say how long it lasts, but i'm pretty sure you could use that exe as a screen saver. Everything in this demo is great: music, textures, meshes, code, it runs smoothly, fast.
I finally pressed escape. Get back to my unzip program. AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! IT IS AN IN64K!!!! How could they place all that stuff in such a small file? Really, see it!!! I urge you to see it!
I finally pressed escape. Get back to my unzip program. AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! IT IS AN IN64K!!!! How could they place all that stuff in such a small file? Really, see it!!! I urge you to see it!
The most boring intro of the year. Above-average music, few minutes of editing in DemoPaia that probably did most of the generating, powerful packer and ... nothing else yet. Das produkt is an typical example of making a mistake by forgetting the sence of a product by nothing else than all 3d scene, fly-path making. When I saw this for the first time, I was no doubt surpriced, but for the second time bored and for the third time disgusted. There's no point of it - all Farb-Rausch want to say is "hey, look what we managed to do, look how we managed to compress some (no matter how fool) heap of 3d stuff!"
Do you think you wouldn't forget this intro after some 5 years? Really? It's really foolish trying to compare this intro with Heaven 7/exceed, 'cause it's uncomparable. In general, this newskool intro shows nothing else than flying by simply generated objects they are STATIC (ok, few of them moves artificialy, up and down or left and right) and is nothing else than a boring trip of "cold" 3d scenes. I don't claim I could code something like Das Produkt, I just say it's an "eye-popping intro (according to today) with absolutely no sence".
Do you think you wouldn't forget this intro after some 5 years? Really? It's really foolish trying to compare this intro with Heaven 7/exceed, 'cause it's uncomparable. In general, this newskool intro shows nothing else than flying by simply generated objects they are STATIC (ok, few of them moves artificialy, up and down or left and right) and is nothing else than a boring trip of "cold" 3d scenes. I don't claim I could code something like Das Produkt, I just say it's an "eye-popping intro (according to today) with absolutely no sence".
one of the best releases 2000. the texture-generator must be awesome, as is the sample generator engine. farbrausch have done a great job.
64KB ????? Unbeliveable!!
Sehr gute Arbeit - weiter so!!!!!
Sehr gute Arbeit - weiter so!!!!!
I agree with crs... The size is impressive (great job !), but that's all. There is no creativity.
yeah, i like it and it's very rare when i say i like a demo/intro/dentro because i have see more than 2000 demos in 10 years of scene. This intro is one of the best intro ever made in computerdemoscene. Continue dudes, you rules :)
Hallo! Das ist sehr gut! Wunderbar!!! Heh,. hab ich ihnen gesagt, dass ich Deutsch sprechen kann? :)
Ohh,.. und sie durfen nicht sagen, dass mein Deutsch furctbar klingt! ;)
Translation:
This is wunderbar. I would like very much to do one of this, but I am just a lame newbie who whines everyday and says how much happy he is around the world. Am I right? :)
People say that Germans are the technicall people who just do pure tech, not desing,. but I just love them! Heh.. I hope you love me too guyz =)
Crazy Optimus
P.S.1 Useless Fact: Do you remember if you write me email, that I answer with "Hallo" and not "Hello"? Yes! In the beginning I was just confused, but then I kept it because I love German sceners a lot! Just an obssesion? Heh =)
Ohh,.. und sie durfen nicht sagen, dass mein Deutsch furctbar klingt! ;)
Translation:
This is wunderbar. I would like very much to do one of this, but I am just a lame newbie who whines everyday and says how much happy he is around the world. Am I right? :)
People say that Germans are the technicall people who just do pure tech, not desing,. but I just love them! Heh.. I hope you love me too guyz =)
Crazy Optimus
P.S.1 Useless Fact: Do you remember if you write me email, that I answer with "Hallo" and not "Hello"? Yes! In the beginning I was just confused, but then I kept it because I love German sceners a lot! Just an obssesion? Heh =)
ok... First the guy who wanted to "penetrate" us on c.s.i.p.d ... now Optimus who confesses that he's in love with us...
I just think if it wouldn't be better for us to, uh... cover our asses *g*
I just think if it wouldn't be better for us to, uh... cover our asses *g*
crs, are you saying that if they put in some particles and some poetry with bad english, you'd like this intro more? And of course there's a point to it! You don't make something like this for no reason! It will be well remembered, just like Stash (you didn't forget Stash, DID YOU?! :) If you can't be impressed by code, then you're missing out on half the value of demos.
the product and Heaven 7 both kick ass - let's all just agree with that. :)
p.s. since when did it become "das produkt"? (german name, i know) I was searching for "fr-08" in the prods list and was shocked to find nothing there. :)
the product and Heaven 7 both kick ass - let's all just agree with that. :)
p.s. since when did it become "das produkt"? (german name, i know) I was searching for "fr-08" in the prods list and was shocked to find nothing there. :)
nothing can beat heaven7 ... anyway i've not scene yet das produkt ... :Þ
ok, i've just watched the product, and i keep on saying that nothing can beat h7 :)
but anyway this is a matter of state, and besides that, the product is truely one of the best intros/demos _ever_ ...
but anyway this is a matter of state, and besides that, the product is truely one of the best intros/demos _ever_ ...
I agree all round here, FR-08 could do with a little more life in it's scenes, but it shouldn't have the stoopid "poetry" and strange overlaid effects/particles etc.
The demo is roughly 11 minutes long, and I enjoy it better than Kasparov. (that robot at the end annoys me)
Keep going Farb-Rausch, You've got talent, and lots of it! :D
The demo is roughly 11 minutes long, and I enjoy it better than Kasparov. (that robot at the end annoys me)
Keep going Farb-Rausch, You've got talent, and lots of it! :D
really incredible what people can squeeze out of 64kb.
i really enjoy this intro and know many people (even non-demoscene) who enjoy it.
keep up the amazing work.
i really enjoy this intro and know many people (even non-demoscene) who enjoy it.
keep up the amazing work.
this is very good. technically it's amazing. and yes, it's also artistic and creative. i can't see why it wouldn't be.
it's not my favourite intro. it's not even on my top ten list.
but it is impressive.
there's a huge amount of talent behind this, and i see it as extremely unfair to claim it's 'not creative'.
but no, i'm not so much into the style.
but i definately don't miss the 'poetry', the flat shaded boxes, etc.
ingredients that some ppl seem to believe automatically makes an intro (or a demo) 'more artistic'. haha.
that's all i had to say.
it's not my favourite intro. it's not even on my top ten list.
but it is impressive.
there's a huge amount of talent behind this, and i see it as extremely unfair to claim it's 'not creative'.
but no, i'm not so much into the style.
but i definately don't miss the 'poetry', the flat shaded boxes, etc.
ingredients that some ppl seem to believe automatically makes an intro (or a demo) 'more artistic'. haha.
that's all i had to say.
It's the best 64K demo I have ever seen since Hplus/Halcyon !
But when the scroller comes, I think it becomes a little bit too long...
But when the scroller comes, I think it becomes a little bit too long...
very cool 64k demo with very cool gfx, music and code (and also very cool sceners who done this??? ;))
ok, let's gain one another flöp :-S,
by my very private opinion (that i don't force to you nor anybody) it's not right to do an intro by letting editing some easy-to-generate objects in some 3d editor, define some splines for the camera to move around, include a sinewave generator, reuse (or write your own) some demopacker... and than think it's a VALUEABLE production.
This rather "coder-oriented" demo-making might have sence in 128B to 4KB cathegory, but in 64KB it is supposed some idea to fit in.
I think demoscene is rather art (or some kind of a computer art) than a "technology" or how would you name that. According to this point of view, release of "das produkt" is as interesting as an... invetion of an air brush (but it IS interesting, i don't deny. at least at the technological point of view. Technological advance that has meaning for today, not for tomorrow).
By the way, i didn't say this is not creative, it would be "not creative" so that farb rausch didn't do das product at all. But that's a "creativity" coder - technician's attitude. By my whole opinion what is substantial not to miss in making an intro is filling up (or just trying to fill up) a "spirit" of it. Not just to put some part or devices to a mixer and mix it together, wishing an idea will fall from a sky and incorporate to the production.
phoenix: trying to fill the intro with some poetry (just for "the effect") is a same (or even bigger) stupidity as building it from a pieces like a cube-castle. This has no sence. You must feel it, you must know "this suits there and this not". Then you are on a good way to do a intro with sence.
"_": i still disagree das product is contributive for the scene (from an artistic point of view) or it is even artistic.
syntig, a REALLY good and cool intro (BMHO) stays cool even if you play it for example twenty times or even more. Have you tried it? Just try!
ps. i would like to know, what is the opinion of farb rausch members. please, do tell me, criticize me, shout on me, anything you want.. :-)
by my very private opinion (that i don't force to you nor anybody) it's not right to do an intro by letting editing some easy-to-generate objects in some 3d editor, define some splines for the camera to move around, include a sinewave generator, reuse (or write your own) some demopacker... and than think it's a VALUEABLE production.
This rather "coder-oriented" demo-making might have sence in 128B to 4KB cathegory, but in 64KB it is supposed some idea to fit in.
I think demoscene is rather art (or some kind of a computer art) than a "technology" or how would you name that. According to this point of view, release of "das produkt" is as interesting as an... invetion of an air brush (but it IS interesting, i don't deny. at least at the technological point of view. Technological advance that has meaning for today, not for tomorrow).
By the way, i didn't say this is not creative, it would be "not creative" so that farb rausch didn't do das product at all. But that's a "creativity" coder - technician's attitude. By my whole opinion what is substantial not to miss in making an intro is filling up (or just trying to fill up) a "spirit" of it. Not just to put some part or devices to a mixer and mix it together, wishing an idea will fall from a sky and incorporate to the production.
phoenix: trying to fill the intro with some poetry (just for "the effect") is a same (or even bigger) stupidity as building it from a pieces like a cube-castle. This has no sence. You must feel it, you must know "this suits there and this not". Then you are on a good way to do a intro with sence.
"_": i still disagree das product is contributive for the scene (from an artistic point of view) or it is even artistic.
syntig, a REALLY good and cool intro (BMHO) stays cool even if you play it for example twenty times or even more. Have you tried it? Just try!
ps. i would like to know, what is the opinion of farb rausch members. please, do tell me, criticize me, shout on me, anything you want.. :-)
Forst of all, i disagree totally that also 64Ks are now completely in the hands of so-called "designers" or "artists" - 65536 bytes are still a f***ing hard limit, and if you want to say that you aren't impressed by anything technical, well, the Shockwave/Flash scene is wide open for you. Or go work at some ad agency, or anything else, but the demo scene has always been for showing off skills, be it those of coders, musicians, or graphicians, and I DO hope this will never change.
Even for full-size demos, this should be the fact again... there are so many well-designed demos which i can't watch because it's made by guys with a nice feeling for design, but not even the most basic skills you'd need for doing flat shading. And IMO, this does suck.
And the fact that also 64k demos are rated only by their "artistic" level (as if any of them would reach a level which real "artists" wouldn't laugh at) does quite scare me off.
Then, what is "artistic" ?
I don't want to say, that I consider FR08 that much of an artistic demo, no, the scenes definitely don't fit together, the music was done quite in a hurry without letting me getting used to the synth and its possibilities, and our general mood at the end was something like "ok, let's shock the scene a bit, we've enough time to do a GOOD intro thereafter"..
... but who the f*** does define that thisandthat is art and other things are not?
Why can't the way the camera moves be artistic and thoughtful? Many (99%) of those "considered art" demos have camera movements which fly around the object, and fly around, and then fly around them, without any sense, somewhere in the senseless gap between "no real camera operator would so something silly like that" and "nah, for a special effect it's just too boring". But still, FR08 (and also Kasparov eg.) are considered "boring 3D flybys", even if their camera movements have NOTHING in common with most of the rest of the demos.
Look at the completely overrated "Purple" by Orion eg. Does it have a story? No, sorry, if i remove the texts, i have 3D flybys of the most boring and senseless kind, some mediocre music, but hey, let's put some texts about an enslaved civilisation below them and soon everybody thinks it's "art" and doesn't even recognize that this handfull of polygons doesn't run in a sufficient speed with GeForce DDR and 256 Megs of RAM. That's cool. Art is the perfect disguise for lack of skills and creativity.
crs, it's perfectly ok that you dislike FR08, it's ok if it doesn't give anything to you, but don't try to define what's "art" here - and don't try to define what's important for the scene and what isn't, ok?
So, enough of flaming, now let's all go back to work and produce some creative, stunning, artsy cutting-ende demos and intros for MS2001, thanks :)
Even for full-size demos, this should be the fact again... there are so many well-designed demos which i can't watch because it's made by guys with a nice feeling for design, but not even the most basic skills you'd need for doing flat shading. And IMO, this does suck.
And the fact that also 64k demos are rated only by their "artistic" level (as if any of them would reach a level which real "artists" wouldn't laugh at) does quite scare me off.
Then, what is "artistic" ?
I don't want to say, that I consider FR08 that much of an artistic demo, no, the scenes definitely don't fit together, the music was done quite in a hurry without letting me getting used to the synth and its possibilities, and our general mood at the end was something like "ok, let's shock the scene a bit, we've enough time to do a GOOD intro thereafter"..
... but who the f*** does define that thisandthat is art and other things are not?
Why can't the way the camera moves be artistic and thoughtful? Many (99%) of those "considered art" demos have camera movements which fly around the object, and fly around, and then fly around them, without any sense, somewhere in the senseless gap between "no real camera operator would so something silly like that" and "nah, for a special effect it's just too boring". But still, FR08 (and also Kasparov eg.) are considered "boring 3D flybys", even if their camera movements have NOTHING in common with most of the rest of the demos.
Look at the completely overrated "Purple" by Orion eg. Does it have a story? No, sorry, if i remove the texts, i have 3D flybys of the most boring and senseless kind, some mediocre music, but hey, let's put some texts about an enslaved civilisation below them and soon everybody thinks it's "art" and doesn't even recognize that this handfull of polygons doesn't run in a sufficient speed with GeForce DDR and 256 Megs of RAM. That's cool. Art is the perfect disguise for lack of skills and creativity.
crs, it's perfectly ok that you dislike FR08, it's ok if it doesn't give anything to you, but don't try to define what's "art" here - and don't try to define what's important for the scene and what isn't, ok?
So, enough of flaming, now let's all go back to work and produce some creative, stunning, artsy cutting-ende demos and intros for MS2001, thanks :)
Dammit, people, just be impressed by this intro and stop arguing about its artistic value, okay? :)
good textures, good meshes, and 64k!
This is so hot it should be classified as hardcore pr0n.
However I think that enough has been said about the visuals. I'll rant about the sound synthesis. It is good, real good. Leech the intro, fire it up and close your eyes, listen to it and keep thinking "ooooooh mama! it's a 64Kb intro". Then do it again but this time with your eyes open for the full effect.
Make sure your keyboard is safe from potential drooling.
However I think that enough has been said about the visuals. I'll rant about the sound synthesis. It is good, real good. Leech the intro, fire it up and close your eyes, listen to it and keep thinking "ooooooh mama! it's a 64Kb intro". Then do it again but this time with your eyes open for the full effect.
Make sure your keyboard is safe from potential drooling.
great job dudes. kb very nice synth, chaos real nice job too!! i just dont like those ppl dizzing all the time. it is fun stuff. really i enjoy you work! good luck for the future and hope to be having a few more nice times at demoparties! bbl, franky.
great job dudes. kb very nice synth, chaos real nice job too!! i just dont like those ppl dizzing all the time. it is fun stuff. really i enjoy you work! good luck for the future and hope to be having a few more nice times at demoparties! bbl, franky.
"Dammit, people, just be impressed by this intro and stop arguing about its artistic value, okay? :) " / kb
- hehe.. well.. "YOU BE IMPRESSED BY MY STUFF I DECIDE WHATS BEST FOR YOU IAM YOUR DADDY!!!"
- hehe.. well.. "YOU BE IMPRESSED BY MY STUFF I DECIDE WHATS BEST FOR YOU IAM YOUR DADDY!!!"
lator, if you were able to read, you would have found out that actually phoenix said this. My posintg was the long one above :)
But the idea is good, actually.
LOVE THIS INTRO!
But the idea is good, actually.
LOVE THIS INTRO!
hums.. i guess i can read.. i just cant stand this multimedish webpages.. sorry ;p
I think the main problem with this production (same with kasparov actually) is that technically it is so good in all aspects, (good in the sense of well-crafted) that you can't help but beeing disappointed by the lack of ideas and emptyness of the production. You see, the individual elements makes you expect more than just an aggregation of cool things together. And that's were it is failing. Contrast that to the good 'design' demos which are worth more than the individual parts they are made of.
this intro is a piece of ART, a demo in 64k really, impressive is all i can say, technically brilliant ... if you have not seen the product, go watch it NOW!
the facts at the scroller are a bit exagerated but nonetheless it is unbelivable what these guys have done with 65535 bytes ...
if only they did proper D3D initialization :)
oh well ... did i mention that you MUST see this intro ?
the facts at the scroller are a bit exagerated but nonetheless it is unbelivable what these guys have done with 65535 bytes ...
if only they did proper D3D initialization :)
oh well ... did i mention that you MUST see this intro ?
looks impressive, and technically it's incredible, but it's also incredibly boring to watch. zzzzzzz.
a nice technical achievment.
i like it
A RAD 64k intro...A must see...Damn it..i wish i had seen it on the bigscreen...Just watch it...nothing else
By definition i am against this kind of intro. It is everything i stand against. 1) Texture genereation - have done before. 2) Object generation - have done before. 3) Software synths - have done before. 4) Graphical script-language - have demo before. 5) Nice code - have done before.
The only thing this demo really excellents in is the fact that FR succeeded in making a commercial breakthrough for the demoscene. They showed us that commercial egoism and self-partrism pays --- if you want to win at The Party.
I must confess that the they have put a lot of effort into the actual production of this keyframed and low designed intro, but the music suits the rest. (Thats about the only positive comment i can come with here, and I am not going to comment on FR's MS's demo wich was worse than a cow's shit)
The only thing this demo really excellents in is the fact that FR succeeded in making a commercial breakthrough for the demoscene. They showed us that commercial egoism and self-partrism pays --- if you want to win at The Party.
I must confess that the they have put a lot of effort into the actual production of this keyframed and low designed intro, but the music suits the rest. (Thats about the only positive comment i can come with here, and I am not going to comment on FR's MS's demo wich was worse than a cow's shit)
erm, sorry macaw, but i still don't accept your points.
your intros usually feature slow/ambient music (has been done before), 3d objects (have been done before) and some code/sync (has been done before), plus some design (has been done before)
with this attitude you can argument that every 64k intro sucks - because they usually don't feature things that haven't been done in demos. argumenting this way is simply bullshit.
why don't you simply say ONCE "ok, let's make it short, i hate any kind of 3d flyby" and be done with it instead of coming up with this ridicilous argumentation AGAIN? :)
agree on fr-012 tho :)
your intros usually feature slow/ambient music (has been done before), 3d objects (have been done before) and some code/sync (has been done before), plus some design (has been done before)
with this attitude you can argument that every 64k intro sucks - because they usually don't feature things that haven't been done in demos. argumenting this way is simply bullshit.
why don't you simply say ONCE "ok, let's make it short, i hate any kind of 3d flyby" and be done with it instead of coming up with this ridicilous argumentation AGAIN? :)
agree on fr-012 tho :)
A fatass "WELL DONE!", guys. The graphics, the code, the music... it goes hand in hand like homegrown w33d. If this where the early 90:s i would definitive call u "ZuPerELiTe"!
Seriously... very good work on the soft synth. The best introsoftsynth i've ever tasted.
...i think everything in this intro... how should i put it... SUPERB!
Seriously... very good work on the soft synth. The best introsoftsynth i've ever tasted.
...i think everything in this intro... how should i put it... SUPERB!
crap design, fairly crap textures, but the sound is nice and at it certainly inspired people to start releasing again. which is nice. so kudos :)
this thumb's for you.
allready posted a comment before but it would be shame not to vote for this awesome demo
yes, this is s really impressive intro, the music is great, and the textures and models are really nice but it gets really boring after a while, nothing special happens.. it is the same thing for 15minutes or so..
damn. i really hate this intro, cuz:
1) it has music - have done before.
2) it has graphics - have done before.
3) it was coded - have done before.
macaw wtf you been taking?
1) it has music - have done before.
2) it has graphics - have done before.
3) it was coded - have done before.
macaw wtf you been taking?
great music, the best I've heard been done with a software synth. pretty impressive, but there isn't much design, so it gets a bit boring after a while...
Simply Astonishing. Overcoming fr-08 it will be hard :)
Mmmh ... we could put a bit of generateGorgeousDancingPlaymate function ;)
BTW - the first time I saw it I loved it - but the second time I hated it ( have seen it before ) ;D ( macae let's be seriooouus )
Mmmh ... we could put a bit of generateGorgeousDancingPlaymate function ;)
BTW - the first time I saw it I loved it - but the second time I hated it ( have seen it before ) ;D ( macae let's be seriooouus )
a just wonderful demo.. er.. intro =)
really love the music, kb =)
and I'm very impressed by the rest of the coding as well..
could have been better if it wasn't so much 3d-flyby, but don't take me wrong, I really love this production.
for those who complain about this isn't hard to do, well, do something better to prove it!
and macaw, nice code has been done before? what the hell are you talking about? should we stop coding, or should we stop writing "nice code" and write terrible code instead?
oh well, just would love to see another 64kb by farbrausch... keep up the great work guys!
and remember, .the .product will make you happy
=)
really love the music, kb =)
and I'm very impressed by the rest of the coding as well..
could have been better if it wasn't so much 3d-flyby, but don't take me wrong, I really love this production.
for those who complain about this isn't hard to do, well, do something better to prove it!
and macaw, nice code has been done before? what the hell are you talking about? should we stop coding, or should we stop writing "nice code" and write terrible code instead?
oh well, just would love to see another 64kb by farbrausch... keep up the great work guys!
and remember, .the .product will make you happy
=)
Very good work. Impressive scene, good music, small size. That's what an intro should have.
hell, all this talk is crap!
this intro is by far one
of the best ones i have
seen in ten years of scening!
long live the hamburg skool!
this intro is by far one
of the best ones i have
seen in ten years of scening!
long live the hamburg skool!
hell, all this talk is crap!
this intro is by far one
of the best ones i have
seen in ten years of scening!
long live the hamburg skool!
this intro is by far one
of the best ones i have
seen in ten years of scening!
long live the hamburg skool!
Definately one of the best intros ever created. And consider it is only 64kb. Farb-rausch proves one more time their superb programming capabilities. I can't stop watching this intro over and over!!! YOU MUST SEE THIS!!!
this intro is nice but unfortunately it has no idea... it's nice to watch it but i rather watch something (not pointless) like "paper" by statix&vic...
yeah, my vote here
To those who says something in the style with: "you are not supposed to show how good you are on programming, you should show you design skills"
First: I don't like a flat-cube running in 3 fps/h.
second: If you like to desing things, stop making demos, us shockwave,3ds,lws,or some other "design" tool. I don't say you should skip the design, but the demo-scene was and is for those who wants to show of their programming skills. Not for those who want to show a flat-cube (+poetic nonsense) in 3 fps/h.
First: I don't like a flat-cube running in 3 fps/h.
second: If you like to desing things, stop making demos, us shockwave,3ds,lws,or some other "design" tool. I don't say you should skip the design, but the demo-scene was and is for those who wants to show of their programming skills. Not for those who want to show a flat-cube (+poetic nonsense) in 3 fps/h.
To those who says something in the style with: "you are not supposed to show how good you are on programming, you should show you design skills"
First: I don't like a flat-cube running in 3 fps/h.
second: If you like to desing things, stop making demos, us shockwave,3ds,lws,or some other "design" tool. I don't say you should skip the design, but the demo-scene was and is for those who wants to show of their programming skills. Not for those who want to show a flat-cube (+poetic nonsense) in 3 fps/h.
First: I don't like a flat-cube running in 3 fps/h.
second: If you like to desing things, stop making demos, us shockwave,3ds,lws,or some other "design" tool. I don't say you should skip the design, but the demo-scene was and is for those who wants to show of their programming skills. Not for those who want to show a flat-cube (+poetic nonsense) in 3 fps/h.
quite impressive how much datas they have compressed into the small file.
except of the nice coding work this production is similar to the rest of the farbrausch stuff - acceptable gfx,no story, no design, ... and no reason to watch it more than 1 time.
get heaven7 instead its better at ... everything.
except of the nice coding work this production is similar to the rest of the farbrausch stuff - acceptable gfx,no story, no design, ... and no reason to watch it more than 1 time.
get heaven7 instead its better at ... everything.
Man this is impressive kepp up farb-rausch!
This and heaven7 are the best intros I've seen..ever..
Finally a production for which the team, and not the hardware, can take full credit.
How long before Intel have Chaos assassinated?
How long before Intel have Chaos assassinated?
first some destructive criticism:
bad code - ha - even i could do better. not to speak about someone who actually knows about d3d/ogl.
bad scenes - where are all your lights? looks pretty pale to me.. colors have "coder-look" in them too.
bad design - no balls no design. luckily no sgeneboetry. phew.
bad music - it just hypnotizes people to think there's something massive going on when there ain't.
so there. points that few have come up with yet.
and to the bad news:
i just haven't seen a better accelerated "non-alternative" intro yet. (havent watched many lately tho) (note nz cmc v10f fr09 etc don't belong to this group we're comparing things in)
...ps. there's nothing weird in an intro that could win a democompo - that is the way it should be.
bad code - ha - even i could do better. not to speak about someone who actually knows about d3d/ogl.
bad scenes - where are all your lights? looks pretty pale to me.. colors have "coder-look" in them too.
bad design - no balls no design. luckily no sgeneboetry. phew.
bad music - it just hypnotizes people to think there's something massive going on when there ain't.
so there. points that few have come up with yet.
and to the bad news:
i just haven't seen a better accelerated "non-alternative" intro yet. (havent watched many lately tho) (note nz cmc v10f fr09 etc don't belong to this group we're comparing things in)
...ps. there's nothing weird in an intro that could win a democompo - that is the way it should be.
Hmf... the compression? GOOD
but it's very heavy!
but it's very heavy!
what compression?? it is all generated (afaik)
and what means "heavy" ? :)
uh... "what does 'heavy' mean?" of course... forgive me... stupid, stupid brain *spank*
this intro rulez! 64ko...
but a lot of 2d effects is missing, it will be more fun.
but a lot of 2d effects is missing, it will be more fun.
incroyable
great soundtrack, it's incredible how they managed to keep the size down to 64k! it was a really great idea to do a website totaly dedicated to the intro. good work indeed
Hop, rating.
first off: this is not an intro. it's a full-fledged demo, in only 64kb. packing the music alone to 64 kbytes is hard to imagine possible - it sounds more like a 3-4 mbytes .ogg-file! impressive.
the graphics are incredibly well done considering there're no pre-rendered images or textures, and the "achtung!"-sign in one of the scenes clearly shows the farbrausch guys' eye for detail. once more - impressive! on the other hand, the storyboard is a bit dull. some variation would've been nice, but we really shouldn't ask for too much. i mean, this demo is still breathtaking, why would we need any more?
the graphics are incredibly well done considering there're no pre-rendered images or textures, and the "achtung!"-sign in one of the scenes clearly shows the farbrausch guys' eye for detail. once more - impressive! on the other hand, the storyboard is a bit dull. some variation would've been nice, but we really shouldn't ask for too much. i mean, this demo is still breathtaking, why would we need any more?
dragonfly, guess you havn't visited fr webpage
because then you'd know this:
the music is not 'packed', it's pre-generated using kb's (realtime?) softsynth, fully capable of doing all kinds of german'ish techno-boomboom sounds (isnt that right kb?) :)
some of the more realistic-looking textures are indeed pre-made, done by hand if you will, and then packed using homemade compression-routines, the rest of the simple textures are generated (kb/ryg - am i right?)
btw, i actually enjoyed watching this intro about 4 or 5 times before it started to bore me :)
still it's quite an impressive piece of work
oh for you non-musicians out there, not only did kb code the softsynth, he actually managed to create 'everything' you hear in fr08 in it. (kb - i fear your viruz2snare :))
ok enough licking ass, great work guys, keep it up
because then you'd know this:
the music is not 'packed', it's pre-generated using kb's (realtime?) softsynth, fully capable of doing all kinds of german'ish techno-boomboom sounds (isnt that right kb?) :)
some of the more realistic-looking textures are indeed pre-made, done by hand if you will, and then packed using homemade compression-routines, the rest of the simple textures are generated (kb/ryg - am i right?)
btw, i actually enjoyed watching this intro about 4 or 5 times before it started to bore me :)
still it's quite an impressive piece of work
oh for you non-musicians out there, not only did kb code the softsynth, he actually managed to create 'everything' you hear in fr08 in it. (kb - i fear your viruz2snare :))
ok enough licking ass, great work guys, keep it up
none of the textures is premade and then compressed. the original fr-08 code is not capable of storing image data (except the windows-icon). actually, that's what makes the product special: all the textures are generated, even those that look like photoshop.
and the music is not "pre-generated", it's realtime generated. sucks a lot of processor time, but since the demo is designed for G-Force, that does not really matter. (well, it runs great on non T&L cards as well...).
all the precalculating is needed for generating the textures and models. that's why we play that "elevator music", to show that kb's synthesiser does not need any precalculation (actually it is incapable of playing samples of any kind), and to make it less boring to watch that progress bar. we feared that it would take 30-60 seconds, but on most modern pc's, it less than ten.
the current version of the intro system can store images and mp3's. i used this in "ahh" and "atomic erotic", but the code for that was made long after fr-08 and is not optimised for intros.
and the music is not "pre-generated", it's realtime generated. sucks a lot of processor time, but since the demo is designed for G-Force, that does not really matter. (well, it runs great on non T&L cards as well...).
all the precalculating is needed for generating the textures and models. that's why we play that "elevator music", to show that kb's synthesiser does not need any precalculation (actually it is incapable of playing samples of any kind), and to make it less boring to watch that progress bar. we feared that it would take 30-60 seconds, but on most modern pc's, it less than ten.
the current version of the intro system can store images and mp3's. i used this in "ahh" and "atomic erotic", but the code for that was made long after fr-08 and is not optimised for intros.
ah ok, i must've got the wrong impression from your site/and from chatting with kb on irc ..
but now im wiser :)
but now im wiser :)
i guess there's nothing special in only having generated-only textures its just a matter of what you need to store... everything is based on the question: "do i store the result of my actions or the actions i did themselves?" that's what flash is made of and well before that that's what the old vecto-paint tool were made of (even .xm vs .mp3 if you think of it with an extension of samples)... this furthermore allows for very interesting effects like texture zooming and stuff without the bilinear loss... i suppose stash had one fully stored texture with buddha figure but that's because either it was a scan (so no stroke to be recorded) or storing these stroke was eavier than compressing the picture itself but that's another subject. anyway the produkt is quite cool just boring but cool, i love the music and the neat feeling of perfectly finished stuff it gives.
ooops... yeah and for all the coders who are wondering how it is possible to make these fancy sounds just go download mame sourcecode there's plenty of psg, fm & misc. synthetizer emulated in it.
thanks to your comments, but vector-painting like flash has nothing to do with what we did in the product. just look at the textures on www.theproduct.de. and we had this "its nothing new or special" discussion long ago, so please don't start it again.
oh, and why aren't you posting under your real name? you created the "x" account today and the two comments above are your only comments you ever made. (this is not the first time this happened)
oh, and why aren't you posting under your real name? you created the "x" account today and the two comments above are your only comments you ever made. (this is not the first time this happened)
I have been following the scene even before it was known as "the scene", and I must say excellent work guys, in my opinion the product is one of the greatest intros or demos ever made. But I'm sure you were aware of that already.
Especially the quality of the synthesizer impressed me. Inspiring, makes me want to produce demos again.
The Product has made me happy.
Especially the quality of the synthesizer impressed me. Inspiring, makes me want to produce demos again.
The Product has made me happy.
because my real name is x from xbarr and it's the first comment i write here. that's the why and the only one. and for flash stuff yep it's exactly the same basic underlying concept recording actions versus recording result to get the smallest file possible no matter what the result looks like... that's why even xm can be regarded as using the same *compression* technic in comparison with wav rm mp3 wich are fully rendered streams compressed with a generic algorithm. xm could be regarded as the best compression possible in a way or more exactly in the smallest raw representation of a music, a serie of notes... since you don't want any further discussion/sharing on compression stuff i'll just quit now. that's the oldskool way (it's my code don't you look over my shoulder or i'll put a box over my head and my monitor [i still wonder who this funky coder was] d:) and i quite agree with it.
if XM was the ultimate compression technology, how come nobody has ever put an 11 minutes long near-studio sound quality tune into 4K of data using FT2?
Sorry, couldn't resist :)
Sorry, couldn't resist :)
hahahaha. boring.
first of all i never heard 11 sec of near-studio quality sound in 4k neither in 5 meg... no offence but bring on voices guitars real drums and stuff in 4k, nobody needs a studio to make techno and you know that better than me (;. and as i correct it xm is no compression it's just a clever way to store a music (when it's possible to do and when blahblah and stuff and yes sometime you have to use streams but also if then and maybe then so... you see what i mean)... anyway...
what's this guitar obsession especially in french coders.
Wtf? I tried adding a comment but no go..
Ah.. well, guess it worked now :) Anyway, my comments in the original comment was like : nice intro, great texturegenerator, good music blabla. :)
vote ;-)
macaw, btw. what are you standing for then? can't be design, haven't found any in your demos.
i love personal flamewars ;-)
check your mailbox rp.
spend less time/space doing end-scrollers and more time doing effects. impressive amounth of work laid into it, though.
höhö... well this much talk... looks like this is more than a forum or nearby a chatroom. :) but all of you who like H7 more than FR08, please vote there, and comment there, we need some more points, not here. ;)
but, i like this intro much, no doubt technically it's way ahead. but our texturegenerator v2.0 is ready now. [1.0 - H7] so we are on the way... :) LAZY PICARD! :D
[hint: drop him some mails! ;)]
ok, signoff... i still HAVE 7 kbytes to fill... mehhehhe.
but, i like this intro much, no doubt technically it's way ahead. but our texturegenerator v2.0 is ready now. [1.0 - H7] so we are on the way... :) LAZY PICARD! :D
[hint: drop him some mails! ;)]
ok, signoff... i still HAVE 7 kbytes to fill... mehhehhe.
Ugly textures, horrible music, bugs on my g2mx,
Otherwise ok.
Otherwise ok.
*plopp* oh..., I forgot to vote :O
rainmaker: get the final at www.theproduct.de . it's really a bug in the driver. non-fvf-vertex-buffers are a bad idea although they SHOULD work.
This looks like a promotional demo for a 3d game. The only thing really inspiring is the music.
Sorry =/
Sorry =/
this is magic.. pure magic.
Haven't seen any 64k intros for a couple years.
Was a very pleasent surprise
Was a very pleasent surprise
macaw: nothing new in my mailbox. you have to press that send button you idiot ;)
technicaly kicking ass...
visualy nice
visualy nice
Great textures, great sound, impressive scenes and everything in just 64k.
do not forget that this demo has also an anti-capitalist / anti-consumer meaning
excellent work by all means
thanx fr
excellent work by all means
thanx fr
one the thing that i have grown to hate about this intro, is the fact that MANY MANY MANY wannabies copies the slogan or the use consumer stuff. THAT SUCK!
This consumer thingie was afaik. FR's own way of doing PR - LET THEM HAVE IT! DO NOT TRY TO COPY IT, IT WILL ONLY MAKE YOUR DEMO LOOK LIKE A CHEAP COPY!
wee, uppercase 4ev3r!
This consumer thingie was afaik. FR's own way of doing PR - LET THEM HAVE IT! DO NOT TRY TO COPY IT, IT WILL ONLY MAKE YOUR DEMO LOOK LIKE A CHEAP COPY!
wee, uppercase 4ev3r!
calm down man =)
FR was not the first to do this kind of thing, let me think...
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mmmh...
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COMA ?
FR was not the first to do this kind of thing, let me think...
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mmmh...
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COMA ?
erhm, try to count how many demos have had the word "produkt" or "consume" in their texts for the past year, and compare it with the number of demos with the same words in the time before.
you ARE aware of the fact that you're talking about us even more than we do ourselves, yes? :)
totaly roxx !!!! =)
It looks like a megademo, not 64k intro.
May be it's a little long, nut who cares?
Definately this prod rulez!
May be it's a little long, nut who cares?
Definately this prod rulez!
Let´s face it guys, your work is _very_ boring...!!!
Let's face it, nudge, you suck ass
The texture quality of a demo and Reproduction time of Demo are wonderful at 64k-intro.
Was a very surprise.
Was a very surprise.
If there is one section where this intro wins, it's controversy! :-)
It's actually very simple: Technology / coding oriented people will LOVE this intro. No bugs, the 3D scenes are very good with no apparent problems and the textures are clean and crispy. Also, the music is quite good. Putting all that in 64KB only is just plain impossible!
Art / design guys will probably admit the tech breakthrough but will also never stop complaining that the intro is long and boring, that there is not a concept, a story, a feeling.
So it all comes down to the kind of scener you are, and that's it. I personally like it. Saw it on the big screen for the 1st time and I had to keep my jaw from falling on the floor. :-) No, it's not better that H7. But, it's a well made production, lots of work has been put to it and I think it's always going to be impressive in terms of size. So it gets my thumbs up! :-)
It's actually very simple: Technology / coding oriented people will LOVE this intro. No bugs, the 3D scenes are very good with no apparent problems and the textures are clean and crispy. Also, the music is quite good. Putting all that in 64KB only is just plain impossible!
Art / design guys will probably admit the tech breakthrough but will also never stop complaining that the intro is long and boring, that there is not a concept, a story, a feeling.
So it all comes down to the kind of scener you are, and that's it. I personally like it. Saw it on the big screen for the 1st time and I had to keep my jaw from falling on the floor. :-) No, it's not better that H7. But, it's a well made production, lots of work has been put to it and I think it's always going to be impressive in terms of size. So it gets my thumbs up! :-)
kb, remember me ? aka Quang Pham ?? :)
how is CP man ?? :) congrats cubic team for this release
how is CP man ?? :) congrats cubic team for this release
the code is brill, but designwise its a disaster
Fantstic !!!! This intro is fantastic, no matter what they (fr) use for make this intro.(Dx8, etc...) Thanx for cool code and cool scenes , thanks to cool music. Thanks for best 64K . Thank you, farbraush.....
so, now where is the hidden part? i tried to find it, and the only thing i could find was a text 'kaozrula' (very funny) and 'the simple rule of this game is that you control the bomb'.
however check out the following keys during the demo:
:))
however check out the following keys during the demo:
- 'a' - rewind a few secs
- 's' - forward a few secs
- 'f' - toggle fast-forward mode
- 'r' - restart demo
:))
The product made rip happy.
the product is too boring for you? no problem! just press 'f' and it's 5 times faster! unfortunatly, music sync is lost, but who cares. so crv, x, nudge and moT, this should wipe away all your evil critics!
skipping backwards unfortunatly does not work properly, and 'kaozrula' is a mark used by the generator tool to paste the data into the right position of the compiled executable. hmmm. thats longword aligned self-glorification.
oh, and all this can not really be considered to be a hidden part.
the keys work for fr-011 and fr-minus-02 too, plus the TAB key which enables the performance meter in these. unfortunatly fr-minus-02 is very buggy but i lost the source.
skipping backwards unfortunatly does not work properly, and 'kaozrula' is a mark used by the generator tool to paste the data into the right position of the compiled executable. hmmm. thats longword aligned self-glorification.
oh, and all this can not really be considered to be a hidden part.
the keys work for fr-011 and fr-minus-02 too, plus the TAB key which enables the performance meter in these. unfortunatly fr-minus-02 is very buggy but i lost the source.
boring but fucking respectable.
heheh, no ofcourse i don't assume that to be the hidden part. i was just wondering if there is one at all... :)
and: don't we all just use self-glorification? i remember our random generator routine always used 'AYS!' as initial seed :)
hey chaos, keep on coding. according to what i saw on the website, you probably spent more time coding the generator tool than on a whole demo. respect for that one!
and: don't we all just use self-glorification? i remember our random generator routine always used 'AYS!' as initial seed :)
hey chaos, keep on coding. according to what i saw on the website, you probably spent more time coding the generator tool than on a whole demo. respect for that one!
The scenes are boring. The scenes are boring. The scenes are boring. I'll say that again. The scenes are boring. However, KB's ruling soundtrack saves the day. I still can't believe he pumped that much out of his share of the allotted 64k. It's not H7 but nonetheless a BIG thumbs up, Farbrausch! (next time, put a little extra into the scenes like eg. Hplus did and you should have a (bigger) killer :)
boring?
you weirdos are amazing.. this was probably the best code last year on PC... so shut the fuck up and make something better...
i like all this bashing... guys, if you say u don't like this, what do u think about your own prods?
FR, Respect
you weirdos are amazing.. this was probably the best code last year on PC... so shut the fuck up and make something better...
i like all this bashing... guys, if you say u don't like this, what do u think about your own prods?
FR, Respect
I thought everyone's entitled to a personal opinion? How could we know if a prod is 'better' when noone's allowed to say something about it?
By the way, when you see someone say his mind about a demo and give it a thumbs up, they enjoyed what they saw. They certainly weren't bashing anything.
By the way, when you see someone say his mind about a demo and give it a thumbs up, they enjoyed what they saw. They certainly weren't bashing anything.
Funny, but that's just the way it goes with people today..
Hi-color textured complex objects: "Boooring".
Monochrome wireframe cubes, with particles: "HOLY SHIT THAT'S FUCKING AWESOME!"
Just add particles, and pouet.net will love you.
Hi-color textured complex objects: "Boooring".
Monochrome wireframe cubes, with particles: "HOLY SHIT THAT'S FUCKING AWESOME!"
Just add particles, and pouet.net will love you.
we are not pouet.net, we are individuals. cut the `community' bullshit or you're going to destroy the site.
Monochrome wireframe cubes and particles can be boring, hi-color textured objects can be awesome... It all depends on how they are used and their impact on the viewer. And I don't think you can accuse all of pouet.net to think this way... unless these thoughts are also your own.
chaos^fr: to "keep your jaw from falling" meant astonishment and surprise, not boredom. :-)
Just only 64k... amazing.. (que me quiten lo bailao)
Hmm.. well.. despite my previous vote (sucks) I have to say that this intro/demo kinda grows on you. Mainly because of the music.
If only the intro/demo itself lived up the the music's potential. I think this could have been achieved with a bit more audio impact and syncing.
Kasparov does a great job of this but fr08 doesn't (imho) which is probably why it gives the impression of a quake-level replayer ;)
Maybe something to keep in mind...
If only the intro/demo itself lived up the the music's potential. I think this could have been achieved with a bit more audio impact and syncing.
Kasparov does a great job of this but fr08 doesn't (imho) which is probably why it gives the impression of a quake-level replayer ;)
Maybe something to keep in mind...
i just didn't like this. boring.
Very nice scenes, textures, and samples. *Extremely* nice when you consider this is a 64k demo.
I normally prefer weird abstract effects, not just 3D scene fly-bys. But this is good stuff!
I normally prefer weird abstract effects, not just 3D scene fly-bys. But this is good stuff!
From a scener's point of view it roxx! But try to make one of your non scene friends look at it without falling aslept...
Technically rocking, I like some ideas (like labels on objects), i like the music but I find 3d flyby prods a little boring.
...add IMHO all above...
Technically rocking, I like some ideas (like labels on objects), i like the music but I find 3d flyby prods a little boring.
...add IMHO all above...
Technically a fantastic intro.
Must have been hard work. Very nice lookin...
Now with their experience from this intro Farbrausch can concentrate on making a
even better intro...who can beat them?
Hope this wasn`t the last from the dudes behind this produkt.
Must have been hard work. Very nice lookin...
Now with their experience from this intro Farbrausch can concentrate on making a
even better intro...who can beat them?
Hope this wasn`t the last from the dudes behind this produkt.
I think the synth is something really top notch, and it's also very well used (damn KB bitch...). The rest fades away in comparison.
speechless... just plain speechless...
the product makes you speechless :)
the product makes you speechless :)
Really awesome 64k package x')
Just 2 vote 4 this milestone!
Ok.. kb .. you're the same kb I've been talking in the past in #trax ? =) .. now.. what's wrong with the flash scene? =).. there's much coding involved in flash as well.. and since the medium here is the web and size DOES matter, the flashers (well.. at least the ones who respect their audience) try to keep the filesizes to the absolute minimums.. instead of drawing a movement.. code it with actionscript and the like.
Anyhow.. on the demo now.. there's not much I can say.. except maybe that it is a reference demo.. it's the definite choice for me when someone asks me "what is a demo".. this.. and the "this is" demo by orion.
Fantastic work guys.
Anyhow.. on the demo now.. there's not much I can say.. except maybe that it is a reference demo.. it's the definite choice for me when someone asks me "what is a demo".. this.. and the "this is" demo by orion.
Fantastic work guys.
When I showed this to a friend, he said "hey, whats the big deal?". But when i told him it was a 64k, he died(well almost).
Personally, i consider this "the" intro... it is incredible (even thought the "flyby" gets a wee bit boring after the 100th time), and the music rules. THis is truly hallucinating. A must see and a referance.
Tain c vraimment pas croyable!
Personally, i consider this "the" intro... it is incredible (even thought the "flyby" gets a wee bit boring after the 100th time), and the music rules. THis is truly hallucinating. A must see and a referance.
Tain c vraimment pas croyable!
i thinks that fr-08 is a Euskal Wars 64kb intro in hight quality. ;))) good work.
this intro will never be complete untill we see "fz-08: the frog" (that is, bp's 4Kb version of it ;)
Come on bp! :)
[fr-08 rules, specially the music. Amazing work, kb]
Come on bp! :)
[fr-08 rules, specially the music. Amazing work, kb]
i thinks that fr-08 is a Euskal Wars 64kb intro in hight quality. ;))) good work.
this intro will never be complete untill we see "fz-08: the frog" (that is, bp's 4Kb version of it ;)
Come on bp! :)
[fr-08 rules, specially the music. Amazing work, kb]
Come on bp! :)
[fr-08 rules, specially the music. Amazing work, kb]
analogue, fix that (and why do comments repeat when pressing F5, comming from the same IP, but not from the same browser/machine? :D)
yeah!! my english sucks (estos europeos to lo dicen en inglish ....)
The State of the Art
RulezzzZz work! CooOOoOol 3D/tex generators!! It so LONG 8)).
PS I want to code things like this =))
PS I want to code things like this =))
Nice softsynth. Music itself is a typical demoscene "vangelis meets some greasy german technoproducer on his vacation at goa" -stuff. Fits the production though.
i said it before and ill say it again this intro is the most boring peice of crap ive ever seen.
No cD_, this rules! I was so amazed when I saw it for the first time, but now when I personally know how to generate some 3d models it doesn't amaze me anymore *so* much(except the music!). No doubt, one of the best prods of 2000.
boring?
I've probably watched it some hundred times now. still amazing, still brilliant.it's something about the mood that really make this intro rock. The part inside the church/chapel (?) is beautiful, both because of the scene and the music. Modelling vox/choir-instruments is not that easy.
unimpressive to non-sceners?
try showing it to your average CS/q*/UT-player, and tell them to compare the size of the intro with the size of their game's install directory. They will refuse to believe it's a 64k from the first scene.
and the music is insanely good :) the synth, the modelling of instruments and the track, it all rules.
a great intro, and far better than the productions of all the idiots slagging it off. including macaw.
I've probably watched it some hundred times now. still amazing, still brilliant.it's something about the mood that really make this intro rock. The part inside the church/chapel (?) is beautiful, both because of the scene and the music. Modelling vox/choir-instruments is not that easy.
unimpressive to non-sceners?
try showing it to your average CS/q*/UT-player, and tell them to compare the size of the intro with the size of their game's install directory. They will refuse to believe it's a 64k from the first scene.
and the music is insanely good :) the synth, the modelling of instruments and the track, it all rules.
a great intro, and far better than the productions of all the idiots slagging it off. including macaw.
this was a lession to all of us, learning to get more out of our lame PC. i've loved the sound generator quality, really phat. the intro ran smoothly. the design isn't what i really like, all those 3D worlds etc. but still asskickin' !!
Best f*cking textures i've ever seen in an intro. Nice music, amazing scenes. I loved the cathedral scene..... plus the MUSIC that plays during the loading!!!
yes, I voted sucks. No, it doesn't suck. But Heaven Seven is, in my opinion, better. So I'll use my vote to get this down to second, heh.. it's not like it's going to fall off the bottom of the top 10. I'm quite happy for it to be second. If you don't want me to do this, eat me or something.
However, this wouldn't really be that impressive as a demo. Sure, the sheer amount of quality textures/sounds/models/code they squeezed into that 64k is damn amazing, heh.. but at the end of the day it's just a 3D flyby. I could code something that loads 3D models and renders them. But I'd take rather more than 64k, heh.
Heaven 7... I just think it's better. Sorry kb, I prefer it, heh. fr-08 still rulz.
However, this wouldn't really be that impressive as a demo. Sure, the sheer amount of quality textures/sounds/models/code they squeezed into that 64k is damn amazing, heh.. but at the end of the day it's just a 3D flyby. I could code something that loads 3D models and renders them. But I'd take rather more than 64k, heh.
Heaven 7... I just think it's better. Sorry kb, I prefer it, heh. fr-08 still rulz.
well, i like it very much..in fact now that i know how much work this must have been, i like it even more. great work guys!
I don't think it was a good idea to thumb down a demo to get another one in the 1st place. Thumbs are about what you like, and you like FR08 too I guess...
You see now? I have just read your message and FR08 is first now. What's the point? ;)
You see now? I have just read your message and FR08 is first now. What's the point? ;)
another 'epic'-styled intro hits the scene. the classic pump-music, accompanied by heavy technical code. epic. legendary. by the legends. wow.
a classic show-off intro. who remembers alto knallo??
a classic show-off intro. who remembers alto knallo??
this is the kind of intro/demo you can watch 10 times in a row without being bored.
simply awesome.
simply awesome.
meh. I apologise for thumbing it down, I was in some kind of fucking idiot mode. I call it 'life'.
still, h7 is back on top now. Muahahaha.
still, h7 is back on top now. Muahahaha.
it's horrible.
it makes me think "i'll never be able to do something like that".
it lead me back to the fascination for the scene as admiring as it was when i started "programming" my first crap in basic years ago.
i love it.
ps: what makes me happy is that, after viewing its source, i can say that fr-010 is not as far from my imagination.
it makes me think "i'll never be able to do something like that".
it lead me back to the fascination for the scene as admiring as it was when i started "programming" my first crap in basic years ago.
i love it.
ps: what makes me happy is that, after viewing its source, i can say that fr-010 is not as far from my imagination.
Ever heard of Geeks, Here they are !!!!!! Simply Great.
Good Job !
Good Job !
Simply Rocks!
I really enjoyed this demo the first, second and third time I saw it!
To people claiming that this intro is just a boring fly-by: just try to code an 64k intro with the visual&musical quality of Das Podrukt (or better if you can), then release it. Probably you will fail.
I really enjoyed this demo the first, second and third time I saw it!
To people claiming that this intro is just a boring fly-by: just try to code an 64k intro with the visual&musical quality of Das Podrukt (or better if you can), then release it. Probably you will fail.
I just read some of the comments here and i absolutly can't understand why someone could actually CRITICIZE that intro? The first time i started "Das Produkt" i just watched it with my mouth wide open, always thinking "How the hell did they DO THAT?!?!" and "Why does it look so DAMNED good??". This was my first impression and in the meantime i've watched that intro more times i ever could count... and i still LOVE it!
A simply flyby-demonstration, as some have written? Am i blind, or what? In my opinion all the 3d-scenes in this intro are excellent (like e.g. that rotating "thing" - have a look at the screenshot above - which looks amazing), all the colors (!) and structures fit perfectly together. And the music? I've burned it on CD, i'm listening to it in my car... and guess what... it still ROCKS, even without the intro "behind" it! And all of that... combined in 64K.
It seems that many sceners are just judging the technical side of a demo/intro, without realizing that there is something even more important, something special that sometimes makes the difference between a good and a bad demonstration... what i'm speaking about is the human wish for ESTHETIC!
Beside the fact that it is in 64K, "Das Produkt" gives me a good - ESTHETIC - feeling when watching it, and that's why i keep on watching it, over an over again, like e.g. "Kasparov", which was also mentioned in one posting as a "boring demo". When these demos/intros are boring, than i'm proud of beeing a REAL boring guy! ;)
Great work, Farbrausch, that's all what is left to say.
A simply flyby-demonstration, as some have written? Am i blind, or what? In my opinion all the 3d-scenes in this intro are excellent (like e.g. that rotating "thing" - have a look at the screenshot above - which looks amazing), all the colors (!) and structures fit perfectly together. And the music? I've burned it on CD, i'm listening to it in my car... and guess what... it still ROCKS, even without the intro "behind" it! And all of that... combined in 64K.
It seems that many sceners are just judging the technical side of a demo/intro, without realizing that there is something even more important, something special that sometimes makes the difference between a good and a bad demonstration... what i'm speaking about is the human wish for ESTHETIC!
Beside the fact that it is in 64K, "Das Produkt" gives me a good - ESTHETIC - feeling when watching it, and that's why i keep on watching it, over an over again, like e.g. "Kasparov", which was also mentioned in one posting as a "boring demo". When these demos/intros are boring, than i'm proud of beeing a REAL boring guy! ;)
Great work, Farbrausch, that's all what is left to say.
actually, the technical side is the best bit. If it was just a demo with all the music, textures and model stored on disk, it would just be another 3D flyby. Sure, it would be a particularly good 3D flyby, but likelyhood is it wouldn't be the #1 prod. The fact that it's *all* pregenerated...
wow.
wow.
Russian littereature is more exciting than this piece of crap. lousy textures :P and bad music
voting for oneself's productions suck, but it can't get sillier than the above comment, so what the hell.
russian litterature has among the finest most respectable authors in world's history, i'm sorry your experience told you otherwise...
sheet....what is going on in the PC scene, on the c64 you have to synthesize music, and you have to work hard to make anything, but there's no b*tching like there is here,why be like this about demos? demos have always been about showing off/having fun, you know, seeing the real skills that people have in the scene, not about all the crap like, 'this has been done before, this has bad... this has...' pah!...just enjoy it, it's free, look at the price you pay for other entertainment!!..some people just don't know when they've been born.. why do you analyze it so much? is it because you have no talent to make the same thing yourself? why not do something good by giving positive criticism? help with productions.become a member of Far-Brausch!!!...if you knowso much about how to make good demos..then why not make the perfect one?....hey..KB!!..your sound routine is very good, i don't care what anyone says....any chance of a SID version??
........
bye.
........
bye.
zielok, that's because the demoscene is full (not everyone) of idiots and whiners. they keep shitting on other people work without decent reasons. maybe they are jealous, who knows.
i completely agree with your previous comment. unfortunately you gotta live with it and try to ignore them.
i completely agree with your previous comment. unfortunately you gotta live with it and try to ignore them.
Idiots and whiners? Well, Damn Right!
It's about time someone came and said that aloud.
Fine words young lad, keep up the spirit that has made the scene what it is today.
(just helping out in case no-one catches your irony;)
It's about time someone came and said that aloud.
Fine words young lad, keep up the spirit that has made the scene what it is today.
(just helping out in case no-one catches your irony;)
d3d, mod.midi ('logic audio') & mod.upx (filesize) ...great job, fr - this one rocks very hard!
the size rock !
I have too watched this demo a hundred times by now. Yes, it still rules. The music is fantastic, even *without* taking into account how it is generated. Some textures are simply incredible. The camera moves are very well done. Personally, I have no design objections about the product whatsoever. Frankly, I can not think how this could be better in any way. It is simply awesome.
Of course, anybody has the right to hate it, I can understand that, not everyone thinks and feels the same way. I have to mention though that I have this stinking impression that popularity and the top 10 is calculated by page visits *only*. So voting it down does not take it off the top spot, it just misleads people. And, for the last of it, forget about the top 10! In my book, it does not have Second Reality in it or State of the art, so it doesn't make any sense anyway.
Of course, anybody has the right to hate it, I can understand that, not everyone thinks and feels the same way. I have to mention though that I have this stinking impression that popularity and the top 10 is calculated by page visits *only*. So voting it down does not take it off the top spot, it just misleads people. And, for the last of it, forget about the top 10! In my book, it does not have Second Reality in it or State of the art, so it doesn't make any sense anyway.
great journey!
I believe it's in the future cause you run into many strange things...
but suddently I'm inside a church... things starting to get clearer!... I AM JUST A PRODUCT IN AN INSANE SOCIETY!
god please forgive me... please forgive this group.
well intro can be very boring if you do not understand the concept.. the scenes are static because our socity is static. we are robots. someone please help us.
I believe it's in the future cause you run into many strange things...
but suddently I'm inside a church... things starting to get clearer!... I AM JUST A PRODUCT IN AN INSANE SOCIETY!
god please forgive me... please forgive this group.
well intro can be very boring if you do not understand the concept.. the scenes are static because our socity is static. we are robots. someone please help us.
ohhh... this is not just journey!!!!!!!!!
iam so sorry keyboard_king.. but i don't think you understand this.
This art.
iam so sorry keyboard_king.. but i don't think you understand this.
This art.
ohhh... this is not just journey!!!!!!!!!
iam so sorry keyboard_king.. but i don't think you understand this.
This art.
iam so sorry keyboard_king.. but i don't think you understand this.
This art.
Farb-rausch out of 187 demos I've downloaded this is still # 1
How about adding a loop function, I would love this as a screen saver.
The Musik is out of this world
Excellent Job KB
How about adding a loop function, I would love this as a screen saver.
The Musik is out of this world
Excellent Job KB
_Really_ nice amount of stuff fitted in the sizelimit.
the .product makes me want to compare to that final fantasy movie.
but yes, all dissing about little things is obsolete.
but yes, all dissing about little things is obsolete.
das produkt riecht nach hundekacke, mach mal wächle effects.... now you got it in german, hopefully you will understand.
the music is allright though
the music is allright though
great job, but for me it looks more like an engine preview than like a demo,
the content is a little bit boring, maybe some creative input would have helped.
i would not reduce demos to their technique, its the idea, msg, content which counts too. the sound itself is really great...
the content is a little bit boring, maybe some creative input would have helped.
i would not reduce demos to their technique, its the idea, msg, content which counts too. the sound itself is really great...
Technically impressive, huge amounts of time must have gone into this. I do however find it incredibly dull. It has the potential to be very cool considering the technology behind. Still boring. I can't help but vote for what is on the screen. and IMO that sucks.
nono, you suck :-)
.Everything
.has
.been
.said
.and
.done
..so, just my vote here ;)
This is a place to voice ones opinion on a production, yes? Should we only be 'allowed' to comment on what we like?
Hey, try to watch on the dude's face when you tell him that this is in only 64kb! *g*
Hmm, now lets see, how many CD's of the soundtrack did I burn for my class, my school, my neighbours, ...
Hmm, now lets see, how many CD's of the soundtrack did I burn for my class, my school, my neighbours, ...
Try to make the dude understand the concepts of filesize versus content and data compression first :)
thorsten: actually, when i showed this my suit-wearing boss, he understood the concept of "64k" immediatly: "hey, my excel tables are larger!" he said. and even the most stupid person who ever went into internet with an analog moden sees that the product loads way faster than most "cool" webpages. actually, the size of the demo is not "64k" but "15 seconds" (with analog modem).
in the end, intros work better with non-sceners than demos, because you don't need to explain why demos look more crappy than pixar.
in the end, intros work better with non-sceners than demos, because you don't need to explain why demos look more crappy than pixar.
forgotten my vote, comments above ^
True, except usually I show people demos and intros on my own machine and thus usually don't download them. But you're right, people understand 'seconds' better than 'bytes'.
Impressive intro that is basically the "bob-world-record"-concept of demos from the early 90s extended and brought to the year 2000.
But then most of the scenes (apart from the not-so-beautiful landscape scene in the beginning) also look quite nice and consistent with fitting music. This makes it also interesting for non-coders.
But then most of the scenes (apart from the not-so-beautiful landscape scene in the beginning) also look quite nice and consistent with fitting music. This makes it also interesting for non-coders.
bob? what does bob have to with this?
The demo that brought me back to "the scene"
absolutely breathtaking. although it's quite help to understand how all of it fit into 64kb, but that's just not all of it. The design is fantastic, and the music... the music is... above everything i can describe. kb, would you please mind sending me a copy of viruz II ;) (please include source code as well)...
the texture-generator is great, the scenes are gorgeous (especially the trees and the water).. i used to be against using d3d and/or intro packers as upx, but after seeing fr-08..
it would've been a good idea to enter fr-08 in both demo and 64k intro competitions?
the texture-generator is great, the scenes are gorgeous (especially the trees and the water).. i used to be against using d3d and/or intro packers as upx, but after seeing fr-08..
it would've been a good idea to enter fr-08 in both demo and 64k intro competitions?
This Roxs!
one of my favourites.
Keep up the good work KB & CO
one of my favourites.
Keep up the good work KB & CO
hey, finally once the camera moved @ the end of the intro nearby the sign on the wall, so i could read it: :) [at least i hope, FR members fix please. :)]
"the simple rule of this game is that you exceed [heh] the limits
GEFAHR!
Achtung: hier ist es wirklich sehr gefaehrlich."
i am very good. :)
"the simple rule of this game is that you exceed [heh] the limits
GEFAHR!
Achtung: hier ist es wirklich sehr gefaehrlich."
i am very good. :)
d-lee, you faker, it's "the simple rule of this game is that you control the bomb" :)
(no, i couldn't read it in the intro either, but i got around writing an frp UNpacker too and read the strings in the exe :)
(no, i couldn't read it in the intro either, but i got around writing an frp UNpacker too and read the strings in the exe :)
Probably the best intro ever made from a technical view. Really good work, but from the atmosphere i prefer Heaven 7
Realy good soft-synt. I'm wating for the final version of synth from peke ;)
nowadays i have changed my opinion... i love music a lot, design&code is cool aswell... every thumbs up ;))))))))
sex-wax: jus't stand by a little :P mi synth is coming soon and im think release it at free source, but first is the concept and make the samples bether with correct low/hi-pass filters. actual version is a byte crap :P but wait... ;)
When i release it, i waiting for your opinion kb. I like your viruz 2 but i do not want to repeat what many said.
When i release it, i waiting for your opinion kb. I like your viruz 2 but i do not want to repeat what many said.
I can`t be any better! This masterpeace realy takes my breath away(cliche). The music gets even better every time i look at the demo(done that several times :-))
.Waiting
.For
.The
.Next
.Outstanding
.Product!
.
.Waiting
.For
.The
.Next
.Outstanding
.Product!
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What the heck is doing Chaos of ex-Sanity doing here? WOW! Okay, the 3d stuff all the time is getting a bit boring with the time but all that stuff in only 64kb?? IMPRESSING! Nice that they had to add a fat scroller because they didn't know how to fill the bytes! haha! Some good old former Amiga demoscene legends have shown the rest where the "hammer hangs" !! BOOOM!
ghandy: Pet of ex-Sanity is here also, just look at "medium" by "einklang"
hehe.. I've stayed out of the controversy for now :)
This rocks. It's funny what some people have been saying. If you want to talk about art, I felt it was beautiful that this had been accomplished at all.. from conception to completion. Whatever.
Also.. the complaints about static scenes, etc... Ask yourself.. Would dynamic scenes have been more appropriate in this demo? I would argue no.. I find that coldness was the chosen atmosphere. Whether that was chosen for the technology or if that would have been the idea regardless, I don't care.
Anyway, this rocks... and very very nice synth, and music :)
This rocks. It's funny what some people have been saying. If you want to talk about art, I felt it was beautiful that this had been accomplished at all.. from conception to completion. Whatever.
Also.. the complaints about static scenes, etc... Ask yourself.. Would dynamic scenes have been more appropriate in this demo? I would argue no.. I find that coldness was the chosen atmosphere. Whether that was chosen for the technology or if that would have been the idea regardless, I don't care.
Anyway, this rocks... and very very nice synth, and music :)
Since I Can't Stop Watching This
Demo, How About Adding a Loop Function, That Would Be Sweet, No?
signing off here POOF!!
Demo, How About Adding a Loop Function, That Would Be Sweet, No?
signing off here POOF!!
If you want it to loop, use a .bat file with A "goto" in it... However, I cannot acknowledge Chaos regarding intros and their understanding by non-sceners: Most people I´ve seen do not have any idea what a kilobyte is, they do not use floppies, neither do they know wether a slow download is caused by a slow connection or large file sizes (which also explains why several people send me mails beeing several MB large). Thus, 4k and 64ks are in most cases compared to productions beeing several MB large, or even rendered/captured videos. The usual question regarding size optimizing is: "Why that? My HD is XXX GB large, a CD-R is 700Megs large, and it can be done faster and better using 3DStudio"
TS: so the goal must be to write a better tool for making little music-synced videos than 3dstudio. fortunatly, that is not really difficult and exactly where i am heading.
having everything in realtime is a nice feature for graphicians, and the ability to spread 15 minutes of content with just a few hundred kilobytes or even less is a great bonus.
having everything in realtime is a nice feature for graphicians, and the ability to spread 15 minutes of content with just a few hundred kilobytes or even less is a great bonus.
are these coders from another universe? do they have access to the andromeda galaxy network? do they have implants? words fail me. i'm simply amazed at how >clever< this demo is! open the code!!
From Andromeda galaxy? You mean Andromeda Software Developers (ASD)??? :)
http://www.pouet.net/groups.php?which=1317
Although they are not so good like Farbrausch, but they will get better as time passes..
Just an advertisement ;)
http://www.pouet.net/groups.php?which=1317
Although they are not so good like Farbrausch, but they will get better as time passes..
Just an advertisement ;)
really really really really really really really really BORING!
I like it.. however I think the demo itself didn't match the theme at most times. If it had then I think I would have given it a "wow..perhaps the best demo I've ever seen" but as it stands it's an "I like it".
WOW..
most impressive intro I have ever seen. Showed it to a lot of friends already, they were all impressed although they are no demofreaks at all..
Can we have da engine too ? ;)
Impressive at first, but it wears off.. A very good intro, but not the best ever made (wich is deesbab:)
QUOTE
The usual question regarding size optimizing is: "Why that? My HD is XXX GB large, a CD-R is 700Megs large, and it can be done faster and better using 3DStudio"
/QUOTE
where's the fun in that?
The usual question regarding size optimizing is: "Why that? My HD is XXX GB large, a CD-R is 700Megs large, and it can be done faster and better using 3DStudio"
/QUOTE
where's the fun in that?
ile/aardbei: Yes at all but not in realtime ;)
this prod rulez
popularity : 99 % ???
yesterday the popularity was 100 % !
it seems that no demo or intro could ever reach the 100 %.
yesterday the popularity was 100 % !
it seems that no demo or intro could ever reach the 100 %.
OK, it's a little bit boring...
But, 64 Ko, it' really incredible !!!! Fantastic demo !!!
Now, I can die in peace...
But, 64 Ko, it' really incredible !!!! Fantastic demo !!!
Now, I can die in peace...
its still boring... Can I have chipmusic with that please?
You really did a nice work with this prod. But your following FR- prods were so "crap"... WE WANT A NEW BIG HIT LIKE YOU DID WITH FR-08 !
Ok that's all. Hi X. :)
Ok that's all. Hi X. :)
great...
dont like it. its just coderwork. the graphicians were asleep? ;) btw what is the relation between this intro and konsum and whats the product behind? did i miss a story or the idea? | http://www.konsumer.de | http://www.konsumer.org | http://www.konsumer.net
cheers
cheers
I like it. Btw, you can read an interview I did with farbraush, where they explain stuff about Das Product. It should be up at www.theparty.dk, but it has come to my knowledge that the site has closed down. I think it will be temporarily. If anyone wants the interview please mail me at freeall at freeeall.dk
(sorry the at button doesn't work at this keyboard).
(sorry the at button doesn't work at this keyboard).
(00| \/eRy very coooool! fr-0R u l e z
Vote!
(especialy for Ryg)
! if the FR is writing the VIRUS ...
they gona make the VERY BIG BOOM in the NET!
Russia coders&hackers/fucker cool too! http://void.ru
forever bye duke/// RIP
Vote!
(especialy for Ryg)
! if the FR is writing the VIRUS ...
they gona make the VERY BIG BOOM in the NET!
Russia coders&hackers/fucker cool too! http://void.ru
forever bye duke/// RIP
looks impressive, fr rulez !!!
Now, some points from me, as everybody diss me already so nothing to lose.
First of all. This "product" is great. I watched it for 4 times now, and notice that every time at the gate I expect it to open, and than start thinking about how much better it would have been if it wasn't so "static."
I like the camera movements still but, like, camera to aproach a door and the door to open is 10 times better than a door in scene.
I would have made the scenes bigger however, but as it's precalced is the polygon count really so high ??
Anyway, this is a good intro. As Heaven 7 is, but they both share the fact that they get boring. Yes. I think H7 gets boring too.
And why ?
Animation. and the lack of it. And animation is not lights that turn, not objects that morph, but .. eh... world that looks like something is happening. Spot would be example where this is done well, but it has.. eh.. other issues. -grin- anyway. nice job, keep up good work.
First of all. This "product" is great. I watched it for 4 times now, and notice that every time at the gate I expect it to open, and than start thinking about how much better it would have been if it wasn't so "static."
I like the camera movements still but, like, camera to aproach a door and the door to open is 10 times better than a door in scene.
I would have made the scenes bigger however, but as it's precalced is the polygon count really so high ??
Anyway, this is a good intro. As Heaven 7 is, but they both share the fact that they get boring. Yes. I think H7 gets boring too.
And why ?
Animation. and the lack of it. And animation is not lights that turn, not objects that morph, but .. eh... world that looks like something is happening. Spot would be example where this is done well, but it has.. eh.. other issues. -grin- anyway. nice job, keep up good work.
I think everything has already been said about this one. Might get boring after you've watched it a few times, but is just astonishing from the technical side, blablabla, ah well I guess I'll just vote... :)
It crashed. I'm wondering if there's something wrong with my specific setup, since a lot of stuff doesn't work for me... Anyway, since I can't view it, I give it a "sucks".
It crashed. I'm wondering if there's something wrong with my specific setup, since a lot of stuff doesn't work for me... Anyway, since I can't view it, I give it a "sucks". Cool music though.
t-owl: have you considered maybe reviewing the prods _after_ you have managed to conf your comp so that it doesn't crash all the time?
those thumbs have a certain weight, you know...
those thumbs have a certain weight, you know...
Amazing code performance, and not so bad in term of design (for a hardcore-code-exploit), it really desserves thumbs up.
Only t-owl desserves a
for dissing this intro just because he wasn't able to fix his pc's configuration (have you ever tried to install the latest directx ?)
=P
Only t-owl desserves a
for dissing this intro just because he wasn't able to fix his pc's configuration (have you ever tried to install the latest directx ?)=P
The scenes and everything are mainly created just to show off the great code of this intro so they don't have much of an idea, but it doesn't matter, they look awesome, and so does the texgen. The music is simple but perfect for the demo, nothing bad to say about the softsynth either. maybe one of the technically best prods ever.
astonishing on the first view in an intro compo and such a hell of show.. the way it's directed, 3d scene after 3d scene.. yeah somehow a bit cold, but it's such a big show of all this great generative code..
and on the other hand it doesn't surprize anyone after one year and half.. it had nothing than 3d and the point of the demo was just to show algorithms..
still an unforgivable moment the second day during the morning at tp10.
and on the other hand it doesn't surprize anyone after one year and half.. it had nothing than 3d and the point of the demo was just to show algorithms..
still an unforgivable moment the second day during the morning at tp10.
Hey Folks This Is The Best Demo I Have Ever Seen
And Have Been Trying For Almost 2 Years To Create a BAT File For This Demo With a Loop Function in The "Go To" Command Line.
If at All Poosible Can You Send Me an Email On How It Really Should Be Programed, I Should Have Never Thrown My DOS Books Away.
And Have Been Trying For Almost 2 Years To Create a BAT File For This Demo With a Loop Function in The "Go To" Command Line.
If at All Poosible Can You Send Me an Email On How It Really Should Be Programed, I Should Have Never Thrown My DOS Books Away.
.das .product rulez!
it really kicks ass ! :-)
hmmh.. is it possible the camera sequences during and after the scroller where different when I watched this just a minute ago to refresh my memories from what they used to be, or do I just remeber wrong ????
an unforgetable moment !
what the hell did i took that 30th of april ??
really dunno..
what the hell did i took that 30th of april ??
really dunno..
mystran, they're randomized each time, yep.
a bit boring, but still cool. :)
The old Kasparov-in-64k intro...
This one is nicer to watch even, because it has better music imho.
I see it as another pivot-production... The 64k intro came of age at last.
Very nice, inspiring :)
This one is nicer to watch even, because it has better music imho.
I see it as another pivot-production... The 64k intro came of age at last.
Very nice, inspiring :)
oh yes....this is nearly the limit of pc-capacity it seems (today atleast)
but really, it gets a bit boring after a while.
64k?? it's really hard to believe
but really, it gets a bit boring after a while.
64k?? it's really hard to believe
i wanna see macaw in a mudfight with kn
ohyeah, this rules
CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVEN'T GIVEN THIS ONE A HUGE THUMBS UP BEFORE TODAY!!!
i love kb! and ryg turns me on!
i obey all in farb.
i obey all in farb.
rockz; rulez; can't believe it!!!
Jawdropper, amazing, unbelievable, yadadada.. you've heard it all :)
du ser ut som en motorbåt.
but the demo is good anyway.
but the demo is good anyway.
vem ser ut som en motorbåt ? :)
Possibly the greatest 64k ever! Amazing stuff!
POEM TO A HORSE IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!1
I should have posted this a year ago, but I only just bothered to get a login :\
first intro I saw after years away from the scene (thing I saw last was unreal-future crew).
Fucking great.
Poem for a horse is better, though ;D
first intro I saw after years away from the scene (thing I saw last was unreal-future crew).
Fucking great.
Poem for a horse is better, though ;D
Lo mejor que he visto, ademas de Poem to a Horse...
Farb-rausch es una imparable maquina de fabricar belleza artistica....y todo en unos miserables 64 Kb....
Ole!!!! por ellos. Espero que sigan deleitandonos con su trabajo...
Farb-rausch es una imparable maquina de fabricar belleza artistica....y todo en unos miserables 64 Kb....
Ole!!!! por ellos. Espero que sigan deleitandonos con su trabajo...
Estoy de accuerde con tigo Delay, pero si puedes, habla ingles :)
gracia :)
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I'm agree with you Delay but if u can, speak english, thx ! :)
gracia :)
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I'm agree with you Delay but if u can, speak english, thx ! :)
yea, it's not exactly nice to go to an international board and post comments in your own language only. let us all enjoy your thoughts ;)
Milestone for the demoscene.
But the (ironic?) talk about packing 1 Gig in 64k sucks. It's a generator after all.
But the (ironic?) talk about packing 1 Gig in 64k sucks. It's a generator after all.
very innovative programming, smart music decisions. pedagogical, well textured, and atmospheric.
<japanese>
Sugoi. fr wa jouzu to omoimasu.
</japanese>
<japanese>
Sugoi. fr wa jouzu to omoimasu.
</japanese>
yeah, they're crafty.
the product will make you stay up all night and die. it's ... deadly.
Shows a lot of promise for the future of generated textures and sounds...
Almost 100% popularity. amazing isn't it?
I MADE IT 100% :D
I'm a hero now right?
I'm a hero now right?
it dropped again, damned...
just when I began to feel like the millionth customer or something..
just when I began to feel like the millionth customer or something..
um, it's not like it was never at 100% before, ravity. but have a lollipop anyway! (slaphappy robots)
100% again :)
This is becoming stupid. Can't you boys find out your own top 10? Fr-08 is excellent, but, thank Gawd, new prods can (have been able of) overcome it.
Technically impressive, but far too long.
Spite: WHERE? WHAT new products have overcome it? You're kidding, right?
Garbagetruck: Squish is the answer to your question.
nice compression ratio, but not entertaining at all!
båååååring
kickz asses hard !
nf: jesus christ, how can you call something as fucking *ugly* as squish superior to this :)
WOW
this one really rox!
I gave it a sucks earlier, but now I've seen it and can't give it anything but a rulez... Ehhhhhhhhhh
BTW, is there anywhere I can get the soundtrack in mp3 format? I would record it myself, could I only get the thing running on my machine...
fr-028: brullwurfel, our 64k musicdisk, has the fr08 music (both the loader and main tunes) and a diskwriter, plus some interface around it :)
alternatively, you can get original fr-08 tune extractor at http://kebby.org/fr08zakz.exe
alternatively, you can get original fr-08 tune extractor at http://kebby.org/fr08zakz.exe
ziemlich heftig: fr08zakz.exe ...37,8k und die entpackten wav's 155mb!!! jo...das "ruletool" (modified upx) von ryg
Neo: hahaha ... na dann pack mal schön 155MB wav mit upx (oder was für'n ein packer auch immer).
Von nichts 'ne Ahnung aber labern.
btw.. the demo doesn't work on my pc (outdated gfx card) - but the music-player deserves "rulez" :)
What is great with this demo? Many people say that it does not really do anything more then display scenes and play music. Granted. It only does that. But komplexity is not neciseraly a positive thing when it comes to art and expression.
The show those scenes in a very good way. Interesting and indeed awsome when you think about the fact that it is 64k.
What really makes this demo flow is the music tho. The music is extreme! :)
It builds the athomsphere, and the slight attitude of the demo at times. It is the glue that holds the demo together.
The demo is also great as an expanle. If you need to show something to non sceners. "The Product" is great. Becouse it is something they can understand the effort in. They can se. "OMG! This is small!" and anyone can download and run with no problem. And most will find it easialy enternatining.
The show those scenes in a very good way. Interesting and indeed awsome when you think about the fact that it is 64k.
What really makes this demo flow is the music tho. The music is extreme! :)
It builds the athomsphere, and the slight attitude of the demo at times. It is the glue that holds the demo together.
The demo is also great as an expanle. If you need to show something to non sceners. "The Product" is great. Becouse it is something they can understand the effort in. They can se. "OMG! This is small!" and anyone can download and run with no problem. And most will find it easialy enternatining.
Massive rulez.
Maybe this demo isn't very original in the way it was done, (yeah, it's only 3D with textures, isn't it?)... BOY!! The day I can do something like this with only 64 Kbytes, I'll rule the world!! Great demo!!
kurvaanyaaaaaad!
rockz !
I'm very impressed. I used to see size-related excellent technical on CPC (I remember for example Xyphoes Phantasy) but farbrauch obtained a ratio 1:30000 !! It is the most impressed PC demo I have seen, before Heaven Seven...
Well, just replace impressed by impressive :)
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Sorry.
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Sorry.
rockz ! 2
Wow I bet this made everyones jaw drop to the floor on the big screen.
rocks. except it's a bit long/boring sometimes. but overall a milestone
What can I say?
Kickin' 3D show.
Kickin' 3D show.
Just noticed that I haven't voted for this one yet. This was definately the highlight of TP2000, I've never seen something more stunning in a compo than this one, we were just shocked by the music quality, the textures, the realworld-geometry, ... although I was told that Farbrausch was to release a great intro, I hadn't expected such a masterpiece.
I really loved it. Total bliss for an hour the first time I discovered all this magic :-)
However yesterday I changed my ATI Radeon 7500 because a chip was dead on it, and now it stalls after the progress bar has fully loaded. How strange ! I am running winXP Pro. Before I changed the card the memory frequency was buggy so it played but badly.
Any idea to postb99_AT_hotmail.com please (change the _AT_ to a @...). Thanks for the great job you did guys !!
However yesterday I changed my ATI Radeon 7500 because a chip was dead on it, and now it stalls after the progress bar has fully loaded. How strange ! I am running winXP Pro. Before I changed the card the memory frequency was buggy so it played but badly.
Any idea to postb99_AT_hotmail.com please (change the _AT_ to a @...). Thanks for the great job you did guys !!
*drools*
It is too short, it should be at least 10 minutes more, and then it would kill me. Not the worst prod ever, not the best...
yes, trop yes, vraiment trop yes !
it rulez da world
the greatest 64Mo demo on the earth... ?
congratulations to the humans who did this
unbelievable
it rulez da world
the greatest 64Mo demo on the earth... ?
congratulations to the humans who did this
unbelievable
this is one of the great pieces that brought me to the demoscene. no special effects, but a cool sync and atmosphere, and the music is the best track i did ever hear in the scene!
i just love this demo.. after leitmotiv its the best :)
WWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA This is ownage!!!
Even whit my modem (65 kb) can i download a lovely program!!!!
Even whit my modem (65 kb) can i download a lovely program!!!!
At least it ran smooth. But well... poem to a horse is much better. :Q
bonjour, super demo, quelqu'un pourrait me dire comment ils ont fait pour compresser en 64 Ko !!!, avec quel logiciel??..merci!!
bonjour, super demo, quelqu'un pourrait me dire comment ils ont fait pour compresser en 64 Ko !!!, avec quel logiciel??..merci!!
comment peux ton compresser tout ça en 64 Ko !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, please help me
This Rocks With a Gforce4
I don't think this is so fuckin technically impresive as most of you said. It's not even one of my favourites (heaven7, squish) but i still think it deserves a thumb up, here we go...
NICELY DESIGNED
Blow My Brains!! Too slow for ya? hit the "F" key, throws off the music though
Blow My Brains!! Too slow for ya? hit the "F" key, throws off the music though
I took a copy of this to work and used some forensic software to delete the loading indicator and reprogrammed it to run indefinitely
only a 3d world. still, the whole production is very professional. about the size: great idea about making your own construction kit for generation of sound/textures/objects. ofcourse all kinds of dll's and os-stuff help keep the thing small too, don't forget that.
i would dislike it if it weren't 64k, but now it's cool.
i would dislike it if it weren't 64k, but now it's cool.
the more abstract stuff (such as in the screenshot) is really good. for the most part though, it's a protracted, and uninteresting 3d scene player. it gets a thumb up for getting me interested in the demo scene again (typical "all that in 64k?!" as i showed it to all the comp.sci students i knew), and for creating an engine used in much better demos (like poem to a horse). it is, of course, an amazing technical triumph, if not a complete artistic success.
where'd that thumb go?
mad shit, rulez :)
i can't believe i haven't already voted for it.
for me, this is definiteley one of the best 64k intors ever - that is stash, fresnel 2, the product. please stop this pointless discussions wheter it is a "gamer style" intro or not, or how abstract the design has to be in order to be cool. it is just an awsome intro which has taken a lot of effort, creativity and experience, i suppose.
for me, this is definiteley one of the best 64k intors ever - that is stash, fresnel 2, the product. please stop this pointless discussions wheter it is a "gamer style" intro or not, or how abstract the design has to be in order to be cool. it is just an awsome intro which has taken a lot of effort, creativity and experience, i suppose.
h7 surprised me by it's art and tech, there's a message to be understood and nice acrt+music+tech. There's no message on fr8 but it's tech quality is really unseen 'till that day when it was released. It's a breakthrough in tech. really rulez.
ok but dont like the replays of the scenes! ;(
It is just perfect. Farb-rausch are the best!
rulez :)
GREAT! most watchable and best demo on my HDD. Super music, great models + textures, incredible compression and nice scenes / transitions. Also enjoyed the scroller and random camera paths :) Never get bored of this one, well done FR.
Genious piece of work! Even works on my sucky Voodoo card :)
rulez, great compression!
I still love this demo. Lovely music, great textures... And I can show it to people who know nothing about computers and they like it too.
I have NEVER seen a intro run so long.
From a loading indicator to a deep trance feeling type music moving in a hallway to
the outside world to steal tunnels and Kewl creatures in cages that remind me of starwars Then I shup up and saw plain as day on the scroller, Shrink wraped files. I got the urge to go play it again, Farb-rausch makes my eyes so happy !!
From a loading indicator to a deep trance feeling type music moving in a hallway to
the outside world to steal tunnels and Kewl creatures in cages that remind me of starwars Then I shup up and saw plain as day on the scroller, Shrink wraped files. I got the urge to go play it again, Farb-rausch makes my eyes so happy !!
Party n/a ?
Rank n/a ?
Get.....a.....Job
Rank n/a ?
Get.....a.....Job
Hey yeah, where did those go?
the undulating surfaces were great. The theme was great. This intro rocks!
Very impressive. I didn't like it at first (and I was afraid that I had given it a "sucks" on pouet, luckily I hadn't :) but watching it again after 2 years it still impresses me. No wonder it turned them from some group called Farb-Rausch into the Farb-Rausch.
I've been hovering on the outer edge of the scene for years, watching with some fascination but never creating anything more than a few crappy mods (and lurking in #trax in 1996...) This intro blew me away when I saw it last year, and motivated me to try writing some tiny 3D demos, so for that, I thank farbrausch. I have the utmost respect for their skills, but above all for the time and effort that must have gone into honing them.
Oh, and I showed theproduct to colleagues at the games company where I worked at the time - and even the artists were impressed ;-)
Oh, and I showed theproduct to colleagues at the games company where I worked at the time - and even the artists were impressed ;-)
Think this product one of the representives of the demoscene. Its incredible.
I was blown away by this intro, it's totally awesome, beyond description. The best I've ever seen.
:D
fr-08 is the BEST. I don't now speak. Is... The Best...
This is still very impressive - everything fits together very nicely.
I wish I could explain what this "demo" has done to me in a mere moment.
I've learned through my whole life that in a 32bit enviroment, nothing can ever be less than 1/32'th it's size without doing some funky trip, like MOD's are midi's with a different instrument definition.
Even if something could be smaller, it would take enormous processing power to do it.
I watched the video, wondering "the trick", waiting for the message that said "ha ha, this was already in 'Windows' or 'Direct3D'" or "we've secretly been downloading this the whole time!"
There was no tort, there was no jest, there was no dastardly trick underlying the whole thing.
I don't think even a quarter of the people who've posted hear understand the significance of this, this 64k file. Calc.exe is bigger. Game developers could use this endlessly. On the fly online gaming would be a painless reality. After the interface, after the 'real' textures, after the scripts and executables and the game manuals... a full fledged 20 hour flight of nirvanic gameplay could be well within a hundred megs.
Maybe it's my fascination with the "whisper text" and mysterious scenery, like some Squaresoft preview, but this tiny file has rocked my forkin socks off.
I still remember myself half an hour ago, saying... "hah! It's probably just some stupid flash animation, or a little cube that spins around on a looped script..."
My brain hurts... And this has been around for over two years?!
I've learned through my whole life that in a 32bit enviroment, nothing can ever be less than 1/32'th it's size without doing some funky trip, like MOD's are midi's with a different instrument definition.
Even if something could be smaller, it would take enormous processing power to do it.
I watched the video, wondering "the trick", waiting for the message that said "ha ha, this was already in 'Windows' or 'Direct3D'" or "we've secretly been downloading this the whole time!"
There was no tort, there was no jest, there was no dastardly trick underlying the whole thing.
I don't think even a quarter of the people who've posted hear understand the significance of this, this 64k file. Calc.exe is bigger. Game developers could use this endlessly. On the fly online gaming would be a painless reality. After the interface, after the 'real' textures, after the scripts and executables and the game manuals... a full fledged 20 hour flight of nirvanic gameplay could be well within a hundred megs.
Maybe it's my fascination with the "whisper text" and mysterious scenery, like some Squaresoft preview, but this tiny file has rocked my forkin socks off.
I still remember myself half an hour ago, saying... "hah! It's probably just some stupid flash animation, or a little cube that spins around on a looped script..."
My brain hurts... And this has been around for over two years?!
Okay, I really don’t understand something here, I’ve never seen files compressed like this, I’ve heard of like 1mb compressed into 200 kb or something that’s 5:1 that’s a great compression ratio for our days or a 10:1 that’s awesome, but 30000:1 that’s just insane!! That’s something impossible and especially for Christmas of 2000!! That’s crazy for 2 years ago, but when we download it from this site it could simply be giving us a virus that could just trick our computer into thinking its 64kb but in reality its 1.9 gigs, it would be easy to do that and this whole crazy compression file thing could be a hoax, but of course, I could be wrong, and somehow, super compression programs could be compressing them that I never heard about. If this product is real on the other and, awesome job guys, to compress graphics like that and a soundtrack like that and everything for 16 mins is amazing, keep up the good work. But I did run it through a bunch of programs like WinZip and found o% compression so that was weird, but maybe it was too much for WinZip to handle lol, anyway, keep working on more demos, they're awesome if they're real ;)
:D
aflfuah: you have just been tricked to download a 1.9GB file in approxematly the same time it takes to download a 64kb file, neat trick, virii rocks!
and please stop talking about 30000:1 compression ratios
all the data is procedually generated and the entire thing is afaik compressed using the apack algorithm. The apack algorithm isn't really that exotic its just a very well made lz77 variant with gamma encoded offsets, which is hardly state of the art :)
besides all that this is a really groundbreaking intro, I was really amazed when I saw it the first time, it was the actual reason i got involved in the demo-scene!
great job! :)
and please stop talking about 30000:1 compression ratios
all the data is procedually generated and the entire thing is afaik compressed using the apack algorithm. The apack algorithm isn't really that exotic its just a very well made lz77 variant with gamma encoded offsets, which is hardly state of the art :)
besides all that this is a really groundbreaking intro, I was really amazed when I saw it the first time, it was the actual reason i got involved in the demo-scene!
great job! :)
Guaranteed farb-rausch quality.
When I first started watching this demo when it came out, the first thing that went through my mind was, "Man, those textures sure repeat quickly." :) But then the next scene came up... and then the next... and then the next... each scene got better and better, and it wasn't long before I was blown away by how much was packed into such a small space. Definite mastery all-around... the soundtrack is great, because although some of the scenes are very long, the music keeps you compelled. The textures are also very nice, and each one fits the object it's on. Everyone that I show this to -- as long as they know what 64k represents -- are absolutely stunned. The remainder? It's a split between people who love it because it looks and sounds great, and those that just don't get it. I, for one, tip my hat to those involved in this production, and I'm glad that there seems to be no end in sight for what Farbrausch is capable of. Keep up the great work!
Wow, never commented on this??!
FR-08 was a massive milestone for the scene imo. Before, nothing had come close... the complexity of the scenes, the beutiful textures, the amazing soundtrack....
Sure, it was perhaps a little boring, just flybys over and over, but that doesn't detract from the pure technical greatness of it! And don't forget, this gave the farb rausch guys the tools they needed for the later intros like poem to a horse!
Also, if i still like this demo 3 years later, it must have something special other than just the code...
Major respect to farb rausch for making this!
FR-08 was a massive milestone for the scene imo. Before, nothing had come close... the complexity of the scenes, the beutiful textures, the amazing soundtrack....
Sure, it was perhaps a little boring, just flybys over and over, but that doesn't detract from the pure technical greatness of it! And don't forget, this gave the farb rausch guys the tools they needed for the later intros like poem to a horse!
Also, if i still like this demo 3 years later, it must have something special other than just the code...
Major respect to farb rausch for making this!
how can it fit into 64kb ? must be magic =D
sorry but except the camera rumbles it's very boring...
Yeah, 3 years and still impressive. And it runs. Not all demos were running after 3 years on actual machines.
What can I say...
Impressed me the first time I saw it 3 years ago. Still impresses me nowadays. The most impressing part of it is the music. Einfach geil!
Impressed me the first time I saw it 3 years ago. Still impresses me nowadays. The most impressing part of it is the music. Einfach geil!
The fr-08 is very beautiful, and the music is cool !
I like this demo !
Download it and view the results !
I like this demo !
Download it and view the results !
I consider this still as the best farbrausch production I know..
.the product makes you believe in the scene
ahhhhhhh.... is this really intro? :)
amazing fr's prod...
very long one,but not so boring that some says it is.
very long one,but not so boring that some says it is.
not bad
64K... amazing...
yes, you do need DX8 as the renderer, but still...
yes, you do need DX8 as the renderer, but still...
WHY DO U LINK AGAINS OPENSSH RYG LMAO, AND THE FILE IS FUCKING HUGE 64KB LOL
spasti.
Well, heard the hype, seen it many time,s and I still don't get it. Still, I am more of the type who enjoy more a cleverly designed demo instead of a cleverly programmed one. In other words, I look more at them rather than thinking how they pulled X or Y shit. Therefore, I consider this demo to be severely overrated. I forgot the names, but I've seen a couple of more fun fr demos, like that one with the hammers n stuff. Just my two pence.
if you have not seen this demo WATCH IT NOW! this is THE DEMO! it started it all, this demo owns.
weeee
Autch! I missed the possibility to make the first post in new year! THIS INTRO PUMPS THE BASS DOWN MY THrOAT AND MAKES ME TRANCE!!!
I'm sorry, but i am yet waiting for a better one than this... It's too good, the next farb-rauschs feel like crap compared to this... I wonder whether KB can top his own music once... I hear from time to time in the scene, fr-09 is considered "better", is considered "art", and this one is considered "code" - at the contrary, i find the "bitchy" (to wrongly quote kb) music and simple but life-like objects of fr-08 make up this gloomy atmosphere still unmatched! I think we have seen those screen-like, spiky, and most other kinds of fr-09 things quite a bit too often in the demosene!
FR PLEASE MAKE ANOTHER INTRO WHICH WOULD RULE AGAIN! I find everything else up to date somewhat boring. It's not your fault, there were many which were well-done, it's prrobably just not matching my taste.
I'm sorry, but i am yet waiting for a better one than this... It's too good, the next farb-rauschs feel like crap compared to this... I wonder whether KB can top his own music once... I hear from time to time in the scene, fr-09 is considered "better", is considered "art", and this one is considered "code" - at the contrary, i find the "bitchy" (to wrongly quote kb) music and simple but life-like objects of fr-08 make up this gloomy atmosphere still unmatched! I think we have seen those screen-like, spiky, and most other kinds of fr-09 things quite a bit too often in the demosene!
FR PLEASE MAKE ANOTHER INTRO WHICH WOULD RULE AGAIN! I find everything else up to date somewhat boring. It's not your fault, there were many which were well-done, it's prrobably just not matching my taste.
Yes, it was the best for it's time and not only. However, my personal favorite from farbrausch is candytron. I don't know why. Perhaps because it's so cuuuttee :)
.the .product .made .me beautiful, .smart, .beleive .and .stuff! .it .works! .it .also .made .me .modest! .it's .true! .hehe .;]
.the .product makes you bored.
Technically very good, excelent code and so on. The music also rocks. However, this intro has destroyed the intro genre to me. Now EVERYBODY is coding generative tool-intros, almost noone uses compression anymore. This leads to all intros looking the same, plasmatextures and primitive-based geometry all over the place. Ofcourse the fr-members can't personally be held responsible for this, so a piggie is in order. (The intro is still very boring)
Technically very good, excelent code and so on. The music also rocks. However, this intro has destroyed the intro genre to me. Now EVERYBODY is coding generative tool-intros, almost noone uses compression anymore. This leads to all intros looking the same, plasmatextures and primitive-based geometry all over the place. Ofcourse the fr-members can't personally be held responsible for this, so a piggie is in order. (The intro is still very boring)
kasparov64k i'd say :)
lol i watch it with friend and i was "lol its ryg code and only 64k" and my friend was liek "lol ryg why is it so huge?!?1", "is it mode 13h lolz!!!111one"
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Oh, I haven't voted for it already. ;)
Still my fav Farbrausch demo today, especialy on the music side.
Still my fav Farbrausch demo today, especialy on the music side.
UAU!
The best fx and the music is cool ! *-*
The best fx and the music is cool ! *-*
We are looking for a artist to build one of this Fr- code to a upcoming Trance, HArd House Album if any one is interested please e-mail was at ecraveh2o@cox.net ......
Thank You.
Thank You.
Holy crap this is an INTRO??? [falls off chair]
The first demo i have seen from farbrausch and one of the first i saw at all. Hmm what to say, i feel in love with this. Musik, design, textures, feeling is impressive. Its very nice to see thats its still so popular, even after such a long time.
Watch it! Watch all! Wath the end scroller!
Ein Meilenstein.
Watch it! Watch all! Wath the end scroller!
Ein Meilenstein.
this was the first demo i ever saw about 2 years ago. it was hanging around on my old 166 for about four months. then when i got it running on this baby, it said "this is your future."
then i wanted to see more and more and more...
then i wanted to see more and more and more...
kb, what you say...
megaspasti sogar :-)
megaspasti sogar :-)
i hadn't voted yet? what the heck?
Quite old, but still rocks bigtime!
One of the must have and know ones
It is nice and amazing. Alas it has no soul. Still gotta give it the thumbs though.
no vote? i'm getting senile..
one of the greatest intros of all time which spawned a new generation of intro-makers.
respect.
one of the greatest intros of all time which spawned a new generation of intro-makers.
respect.
How can i forgot to vote for this one ? Ofcourse YES !
much stuff for 64K :D
everything in this demo roolz :D
everything in this demo roolz :D
One of my fav.
Wow. This demo runs on any computer I give it to, and (not being a "demoer") I introduce everyone who boasts their "260GB hard drives" and "2GB of RAM" to .the .product. Even today, it blows them away, every time. If Farbrausch could get together in the video game scene, with some great video-game minds, they'd have a total monopoly over the whole industry. I mean, the music is beyond definition, the graphics are mind-blowing... hell, these guys can redefine computers, if it weren't for the dang money-pumping upgrade crap the world is forcing people to do! GO FARBRAUSCH! You guys ROCK!
falcon actually they did.. check www.theprodukkt.com Facts are that i prefer fr as demoscener that as gamecoder.. gaming it's not the higher level of making a good 3D ;)
This one was my fav for a loooong time. Deserves it's place in the top10 :)
Simply excellent effort. It really turns your head, I can't believe I hadn't voted yet :-)
I want to buy the product!
kick-ass
I can watch this for the 50th time and still see new random camera movements I haven't seen before ;-)
hey, I never voted this one! In one word, PERFECT.
i almost fell asleep...
a classic - this prod spawned an entirely new intro genre.
the intro that changed it all
It never ends god damn it!
ist perfect... i don't like the scene with the alien-plant-stuff, but the rest is so greeeaaattt!!!
The music is simlpy perfect!
The music is simlpy perfect!
_dylan_: Yeah, that was what first got me into Farbrausch. Unfortunately, the system requirements for that thing are off the chart! I got a 128mb GeForce FX 5200 just so I could play that game, at about 10FPS. Eh...
Farbrausch still rules. And this is still about the best demo yet. ;)
Farbrausch still rules. And this is still about the best demo yet. ;)
indeed
Good!en iyi democu sizsiniz
Good!en iyi democu sizsiniz
It's an achievement, that's for certian.
probably the most impressive pc demo ive ever seen to date; just by performance vs size vs gfx. im not a pc scene fan, but i really loved this. i had the tune in my car for awhile too; great baseline to pump :)
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geee, this demo rocks ! you really gotta hear the music @ max volume... brialliant stuff. not to be missed. period.
I can't believe it fits in 64K !
Astonishing !
Astonishing !
i wonder ...
This one was great (although incredibly boring). All the subsequent attempts at copying it were even more boring.
the classic (not-oldskool) intro
not my cup of tea. lacks nice 2d-art.
i know i'm leaving known territory here - but... you 'lack of 2d art' people really go on my nerves. go'n watch 'we cell' instead :)
4 more years!
4 more years!
You don't need my thumb up :)
This one started something.
This one started something.
this one really rocks. actually the one that pushed the 64k evolution to a new standard. really great. one of the few fr prods i really love!
Started it all :-D
hey proteque youre a idiot. its a intro so how should someone put "nice" 2d art into it.
uh, still not voted? na jetzt wirds aber mal zeit
the product makes you go .w00t
my all-time favorite! keep up the good work!
my all-time favorite! keep up the good work!
I guess I can't deny that this is rather cool. Flyby, but the first cool one in 64k, and the music is brilliant. I remember being totally awed when it was released.
the product makes me cum :)
sexy.
I hate you! :)
=)
Obscenely impressive when I first saw it, but absolutely zero staying power.
Rulez. Awesome tune btw :)
Thumbs up! I Love the music :-)
There was an epoch before and after this intro for the 64kb prods. Impressive :)
Still impressive, makes you wanna code :)
whoa, still didn't thumb this up? so here goes. Easily one of the first intros I ever saw, still freaks me out.
Back on new years day I needed to hear some good music so I pulled this intro off my HD and played it at least 21 times that day, What caught my eye was just as the intro fades back to the desktop I noticed that the scenes were never the same, in others words it would end with the water scene then the tunnel the fenced factory with the beaming lights out, It never makes the same ending design twice like all other demos and intros do.
And I notice this now? after being released for 5 years and 1 month? Amazing!!
And I notice this now? after being released for 5 years and 1 month? Amazing!!
nice... really nice... it just flat out ROXXX!!! (heh, love the end scroller, nice touch... poke... what ever ;-))
what can you say 'bout this? 64k milestone, i guess.
of course, this one is technically impressive and makes the turn...
... but in fact i find it rather boring when not watching for the first time.
verdict: just ok
... but in fact i find it rather boring when not watching for the first time.
verdict: just ok
whats been said.
A milestone in 64k and one of those demos that gets a viewing more than once :)
No idea how often i'd watched this one.
An absolutely all time classic.
Music is great, too. Best audial enjoyment at the endpart-scroller.
Oh..and while we are at it: This piece of 'Fahrstul-Musik' during decrunching is well done, too.
An absolutely all time classic.
Music is great, too. Best audial enjoyment at the endpart-scroller.
Oh..and while we are at it: This piece of 'Fahrstul-Musik' during decrunching is well done, too.
This was one of the first demos I ever saw. All I really remember was that I was rather impressed - all that in less than 64k? After a couple years and some more understanding demos, I'm still rather particular to this one. Plus it's one of the few really cool demos that runs on my laptop.
I've watched this one a lot. This is how I got interested in demos. Plus it's got cool music, too. That never hurts. =)
I've watched this one a lot. This is how I got interested in demos. Plus it's got cool music, too. That never hurts. =)
I was totally shocked when first saw this demo in 2003. Just couldn't believe that SO MUCH STUFF can fit into a tiny 64k .exe :) Then i saw a "scene.org" file, followed the link... and entered the fantastic world of the demoscene...
RULEZ
RULEZ
.still .makes .me .happy
Too overrated.....
Cool for 64k!!! It's got good music and some cool visuals, but nothing makes you want to show it off to peeple.
Four years later, it still deserves a thumb up for quality.
My favourite FR demo :-)
a bit tool long, but indeed technically impressive and makes the turn
Excellent!
one of the longest 64k demos i've ever seen - really a lot of scenes and effects in it... very impressive
I give this one a thumbs up because it was very impressive when i first saw it. Unfortunately this feeling decays when watching it multiple times...
The first demo i saw, fb build my interest to the scene, this prod rulz inside, the music is fantastic, and the atmosphere is quite amazing, 64Ko, wow i just share it with all my friend, huge thx
no thumb? whoops :P
Cool but this prod could have used a more structured "plot". As it is now it's mainly a collection of unrelated 3d sceneries.
Rulez.
Yes my thumb is late, but its probably cos everytime I watch this piece of magic I'm so awestruck that I just forget :-)
Nice product, really impressed me.
fantastic.. great flow, hooky music, very professional -- not to mention better than many demos 200 times its size! well done..
Boom!
this was my first scene prod i saw after years of doing nothing. i was amazed how the scene has changed. MY LONGTIME FAVOURITE. fb is best, like FC in former days. especially all music prods by kb, Wayfinder and PANIQ are mindblowing. keep on, boys :o)
Not bad, not the best.
THE BASE 64K INTRO!
Long ago this the best intro. This was large progress.
i haven't commented on this? great intro :) especially the music - reminds me a bit of "covenant - stalker"
Amazing amount of information stored in a mere 64K. The music if taken out separately takes 10Mb!
the product will thumb you
THE MUSIC
the first demo i ever saw... and still sits comfortably on the top bench of demo mountain.
Can't believe I didn't commented this one.
Now it's not really that impressive but I can remember the impact.. and the music still rocks ass!
Now it's not really that impressive but I can remember the impact.. and the music still rocks ass!
runs on P166MMX / Riva128 / GUS.
the produkkt is white :) sniiiiiiiiffff
Simply rules.
KBs soundtrack is definitely the best piece of demo/intro music I´ve ever heard.
KBs soundtrack is definitely the best piece of demo/intro music I´ve ever heard.
hitchhikr t'es un gros connard!
Go hand in hand with your friend Dipswitch and Unlock: you've the same level (LOW).
it's nice.
I always wondered about why this intro is considered to be so top notch?
Now you can say because of the huge amount of 3D content...aha....but I desperately missed
the content that makes a real intro.
For my personal point 2D gfx elements (even in a 64k) are very
important to complete a well designed production and therefor making it a classic.
period
Now you can say because of the huge amount of 3D content...aha....but I desperately missed
the content that makes a real intro.
For my personal point 2D gfx elements (even in a 64k) are very
important to complete a well designed production and therefor making it a classic.
period
Technically brilliant but a bit boring. I still like the stuff Chaos did on Amiga much more! :)
.vote
Sometimes I dream of having thumbed prods on pouet... but it's only a dream.
leet
classic
Oops.. No thumb up by me yet??? This one set the standard.. This one is the benchmark.
I want to be one of them to thumb up this Product ,thanX FR for this cool 64K
good.
.the product makes you wanna thumb down it
It rocks too and UF is so lame!
No, this Product makes you wanna thumb it up ;)
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Do you think you wouldn't forget this intro after some 5 years?
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CONGRATULATIONS, YOUR OPINION OFFICIALLY SUCKS!!!!!
One vote generated.
impressive
I'm still shocked :)
Saw this for the first time a couple of years ago, but haven't written until now :p
It's a great piece of work, and the music rocks, very good control of the v2. Very good.
It's a great piece of work, and the music rocks, very good control of the v2. Very good.
Still no vote from me? High time to fix this. :)
Just classic and a milestone in scene history.
Just classic and a milestone in scene history.
excellent kool great
10x
damn! not voted yet that demoscene milestone!!!
RULEZ!
RULEZ!
I didn't vote for this yet? Rulez!
my vote
technically great² - but in 100000 reviews i thougt "wow", but never "hell yeah"...
The product will weird you out.
Specially just before the end. :P
Specially just before the end. :P
I can't understand why I didn't allready vote. I remember the first time I saw this intro I was stunned, even though it was only a 3dflyby. I watched it again today (6 years later) and some scenes look a bit crapy, but it's still amazing :D
absolutely incredible prod for it's time! hard to believe this was done in 64k (with space to spare!) back in 2000.
Love the sound
L.E.G.E.N.D.A.R.Y.
This one felt kind like for a 486er... loooow poly count.
Legendary, yes!
True spirit of scene! One of my the most favourite productions since many years.
this prod has blown me out at first time!
TOP5 intro 64k of all times
TOP5 intro 64k of all times
ultimate demo ! my favorite music ! kb forevaa !!
Hey, what can I say? First 64kb demo that looked awesome.
oh shit! no thumb from me??????? pitty... THE BEST!
zeebr - gl0per! ;)
unstacking history I saw I didn't vote that masterpiece.
I was skeptical at first but ok...
The produkt will give you a thumb!
The produkt will give you a thumb!
At the good old Riva TNT2 Ultra days it was quite shocking. Farbrausch's breakthough... Thumb up!
best soundtrack ever not to mention other
forgot to vote aswell. :)
hell yeah.
The textoutput with the circles is the only thing that comes close to what I look for in a good demo. The rest is not my cup of tea at all, even though the technical achievement is probably huge.
whoa how did i not vote for this.. all thumbs up
Cute!
Cool!!!
Overrated, but far better than a thumb down :)
Voting...
A classic IMO
amazing :)
Great prod, especially for its time.
Immer weiter so... Ihr rult, vor allem nach Debris.
Immer weiter so... Ihr rult, vor allem nach Debris.
that's good
Classic
it's wonderful!!
why can't i download it.....
woops, forgot to thumb this one, but it's time to do so, because this is a milestone in 64k, among with stash.
Better late than never :)
DL link will come back soon (server maintenance), use scene.org in the meantime, thanks :)
ohnoes, never thumbed this one as well!
ohnoes, never thumbed this one either!
Maali: omg, you should be ashamed of yourself for not thumbing this up before! :-)
and so should you sparcus
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why can't i download it.....
rtfm! Fr08 - is the best intro!
on of the best I have ever seen
Really great, i enjoy more the oldschool ones, but this is great.
Packing is something other dev. should learn more about it...
Packing is something other dev. should learn more about it...
Filesize. 2000. So no thumb down. BUT.
Seeing the first time made me go "WOW".
2nd time I was really bored and just waited to read the end scroller I had missed.
There was no third time.
Seeing the first time made me go "WOW".
2nd time I was really bored and just waited to read the end scroller I had missed.
There was no third time.
ok, i somehow have to appreciate the technical aspects (i think it was the time farb-rausch was developing their texture generators, music synths, data shrinkers, etc). i have to appreciate the kb's music which is good enough, but i can't deprive myself of the feeling that this is just not the intro with the scene spirit.
this intro was popular, yeah, pretty long time it was the top demoscene artifact on pouet, even before heaven 7, but now, from the perspective of time, it's the heaven 7 being best of the intros and somehow i feel product will never take a second breath. das produkt's only efect was to show how much you can put into 64 kiB. although it was awsome, long-term considering it, it's just not enough.
this intro was popular, yeah, pretty long time it was the top demoscene artifact on pouet, even before heaven 7, but now, from the perspective of time, it's the heaven 7 being best of the intros and somehow i feel product will never take a second breath. das produkt's only efect was to show how much you can put into 64 kiB. although it was awsome, long-term considering it, it's just not enough.
has been done bef... ah no, sorry.
nothing to say.
For the breakthrough in technology and the music.
Great! The .product makes you .thumb up!
God damn it.. I just can't believe that this masterpiece is nearly 7 years old already...
I saw so many open mouthed nerds watching this back then :D <- this is mine ;)
I saw so many open mouthed nerds watching this back then :D <- this is mine ;)
Milestone.
Very good demo.
:)
Still great after 7 years.
Great for trancing - newer demos are far too short when late at night and everybody are stoned :+)
Great for trancing - newer demos are far too short when late at night and everybody are stoned :+)
to thumb this down i would have to be mad, blind, jealous or all three at once
WOW effect and a milestone.
late thumb...
2000... feels like yesterday ;)
clasic!
god damn ... I didn't give a thumb for this???!
WTF ... here it is :)
WTF ... here it is :)
A classic
Classic
Great roadmap.
:)
SCHEISSE!
Haha, he really did that comment :')))))))) Fuckings to tUM :)
LOL
This SCHEISSE RULZ!
The comments for this are nearly as retarded as youtube comments. You predicted the future FarBrausch!
:D
la classique
Damn good for its time :)
What whiteshade and Archmage said.
fuck, wanted it to be a piggy... oh well
Respect to the intro that discovered me the demoscene.
There are better prods from fr
Scene legacy. :)
Never really liked it as I miss the scenish sentiment, but ofcourse thumbs up for its technical merits.
Nice, but a bit boring.
Cool ;>
Fuck no.
the product makes me .thumb
![[HamsTeR]](https://content.pouet.net/avatars/cyber.cow_mini_16x16.gif)
My favourite demo...
forgot to thumb...goddammit!
even though the popular demo is cool. i liked this one better.
The intro that started the golden age of modern 64k intros.
das erste richtige intro was ich gesehen habe... ich weiss noch wie wichtig es mir damals war das es auch jeder denn ich kannte zusehen bekam
good
I don't like it as a demo, but it was/is an important milestone.
This one will become an ELITE production!
Obviously ROXX!
Obviously ROXX!
liked this one :D
boring but ok
i like the c64-remake better !
but its totally nice ofcoz !
but its totally nice ofcoz !
er, the "c64 remake" is a pure animation player.
er,doesnt matter...code isn´t all ! ;)
( i´m a coder myself...at least i was one back in the 68k-days ! )
i dont care anymore about how good the code is,becoz the visuals got me somehow !
a demo is a product-of-music-graphic-code to put it into your words...just one thing.: i dont have ANYTHING against you...i like you and i´m a fb_whore myself....im a farbrausch-lovA.!
didnt i put a thumb in there ??
( i´m a coder myself...at least i was one back in the 68k-days ! )
i dont care anymore about how good the code is,becoz the visuals got me somehow !
a demo is a product-of-music-graphic-code to put it into your words...just one thing.: i dont have ANYTHING against you...i like you and i´m a fb_whore myself....im a farbrausch-lovA.!
didnt i put a thumb in there ??
omfg! where's my thumb??...
shut up and dance !
of course.
This was the first, big, professionally made 64kb demo I ever watched. It got me into the group of the demoscene I like to call "leechers", or "consumers", to be nice (to myself).
It was fantastic, and I can just about quote the ending text completely (numbers excepted) from watching it several dozen times over the last, oh, four years or so.
I just wish there was a little menu for resolution... I wish someone could make something that would run older demos in higher res... heh. That'd be a bit of work...
It was fantastic, and I can just about quote the ending text completely (numbers excepted) from watching it several dozen times over the last, oh, four years or so.
I just wish there was a little menu for resolution... I wish someone could make something that would run older demos in higher res... heh. That'd be a bit of work...
Amazing how the technology was put together in such a short amount of time.
Love it !!! nice put to gether!
The first prod I've ever watched...it will rock forever!
great
Mmmm...PC...
thumbs
what wildrage said
This 64k demo still impresses me after 4 years, both the music and the visuals.
great
Size considered, the visual side is good. As usual, however, what I like the best about FR prods is the music. This one really kicks.
Impressive classic demo from the PC Scene !
Was impressed back then in 2001, even if it wasn't my favorite at that time.
Still enjoy it today, some visuals (final scenes) are still nice with great mood & music.
Alright, definitely an all-time classic ! :)
Still enjoy it today, some visuals (final scenes) are still nice with great mood & music.
Alright, definitely an all-time classic ! :)
still rocks.
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
huge amount in 64k, I prefer poem to a horse but still this is good.
i used to show it to people and have them guess the size
Rules!
all time favourite
hot stuff
+ graphics
+ first 64k prod I watched on PC, made me happy back then
- boring
+ first 64k prod I watched on PC, made me happy back then
- boring
can't thumb up
Self-voting sucks!
ouch! I just forgot to thumb up the prod that makes me get into this world :)
thumb
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Awesome intro! An all time classic! Love the music in the yellow pipe part :)
Like some people this was my first pc demo ever watched... still impressive
SCHEISSE!
this is the intro that made me start watching the stuff from the demoscene. Still my favorite intro!
I still have no idea how this can be done. :)
I still have no idea how this can be done. :)
It was first 64k i watched with so serious (and so famous) jaw-dropping effect. Instant thumb.
Love this! soundtrack is always with me
cheesy
where the hell is my thumb?
the music is great!
the music is great!
Among Heaven Seven the best 64k intro ever has been made.
I attended the party that year as a young coder with little idea of how crazy this thing was (and still is). I was terrified, thinking that no matter how good ever I get, beating this would be very .difficult. So actually I didn't do any graphics programming for 4 years or so. What made me start with graphics again was werkkzeug. The produkkt changed my life two times. Thanks to you guys :-)
Yep, the whole feel of it is still inspiring. The precalc takes about a second to run these days. :)
It's really flybyeish but dosen't matter, great camera movement makes it. But could been more kasparov-alike.
the music rocks
This demo changed my life some years ago ;).
I would like to express again my gratitude for your time and dedication to code this marvelous prod.
I saw this some years ago but it is still impressive!
Still awesome !!
This classic beauty looks and sounds awesome on my LG env touch cell phone. now I can take pouet with me.
soso da hat mal wieder nen ssumb gefehlt.. I really like the flaming stuff at the top, where they tell whats art and so on, very funny.. prösterchen to hamburg.
I like even after all these years.
great piece of art... and all in 64k
Just listened to the soundtrack again, the part during the endscroller (5 min or so in) is just awesome eargasm++
For me, best demo ever.
Great in 2000.
I'm still waiting for the DOS software rendering version....
10 years old, still a milestone.
Longer Final Version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMcKqPCl60s
history
Nice. Awesome soundtrack
I remember showing this demo a few months after it was released to some friends of mine, who watched a demo from time to time. They saw it and said; "well, it's ok but not awesome".
I answered; "well .... - it's 64".
............
*silence*
I answered; "well .... - it's 64".
............
*silence*
maaaan... this is one of the first demos I watched. My dad showed it to us. I was quite impressed, but when it got to the end scroller which said that the 64K .exe file somehow contained 2 GB worth of data... that's when my interest in the demoscene really started.
I tried fruitlessly to hunt down this demo, having never known its name. Until one day I looked at pouet . net's "top ten" list... and one of the demos within looked oddly familiar... and after a few minutes I thought, "Gotcha."
I tried fruitlessly to hunt down this demo, having never known its name. Until one day I looked at pouet . net's "top ten" list... and one of the demos within looked oddly familiar... and after a few minutes I thought, "Gotcha."
The first demo I ever watched, and it really impressed me.
Still one of the bests!
Of course.
and i forgot to thumb this!
Really great intro, i still remember watching it in 2000s. just amazing stuff here.
one prod to rule them all...
just to get away from this "sneaky cdc's" ...and cuz i like it a lot :P
My Favorite
Amazing. Thumb up!
Good for its time and some of the scene designs are quite innovative. However, the ugly textures and low poly models haven't stood the test of time very well and I have always found the object-labeling thing annoying. As a glimpse of greater Farbrausch to come though... piggy.
Just a black screen with the generated music in this prod is sufficient to give 10 thumbup!
But of course the visuals are awesome too :)
But of course the visuals are awesome too :)
Nostalgic Delft'00!
very good!
wut ? no thumb yet ?
How could I forget the demo that increased my interest in 64k by so much...
Also made a highres YT Video
fr-08: .the .product by farbrausch | 64k intro (2000) (720p)
Also made a highres YT Video
fr-08: .the .product by farbrausch | 64k intro (2000) (720p)
.sie sehen den neuen farbrausch
Remembering the impact this one had... incredible cool show... at the other hand, the design always reminded me of Kasparov, the music always reminded me of Apop, the visuals always reminded me of the first 3dfx games... somehow... but who cares? Finally, i can pay fr something back: A Thumb, because .the .product was the bomb and still is one of the coolest 64k´s.
The first demo I've seen, still fondly remembered. Really admire kb's composition — it never left my mp3 player ever since I got it. :)
Excellent flyby in 64k
Wait, how come I never thumbed this up?!
This one is a classic, that has been very inspiring in several ways. How many sceners out there became so after seeing this? How many people tried to code some generator of some sort after seeing this?
This one is a classic, that has been very inspiring in several ways. How many sceners out there became so after seeing this? How many people tried to code some generator of some sort after seeing this?
Classic!
Out of interest was there a real hidden part?
amazing
Yep
Still great
vat m0d said
Oh never thumbed up this masterpiece
2012 and still rocking .. probably someone will say the same on 3012 :)
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too much minimal
Landmark production, probably pulled in a lot of new sceners. Bartoshe you silly sausage.
Still amazes me today!
The end part music in all its cheesiness still gets me.
What Chainsaw said.
Rulez hard, even today, and for sure in the future too.
Also, how did someone cap this demo in HD? I am asking since I'd like to run this demo in Full HD.
Also, how did someone cap this demo in HD? I am asking since I'd like to run this demo in Full HD.
.
TomoAlien: The "HD" captures floating around on Youtube are actually upsampled from the original resolution, just because it still looks way better than YT's low-bitrate 360p videos.
kb: that being said, how about a version with a resolution selector / etc.?
Amazing sound.
classic
Still pwnz in 2013.
To all haters, make it better or gtfo... :p
To all haters, make it better or gtfo... :p
No comments.
So much awesome packed into 64K!
How comes i never thumbed this ?
Even the soundtrack itself is just E-P-I-C (especially the very first few seconds) Hearing this reminds me how times just gone very fast. I still remember when this has just been released. Almost 15 years ago but it feels very close to me.
Even the soundtrack itself is just E-P-I-C (especially the very first few seconds) Hearing this reminds me how times just gone very fast. I still remember when this has just been released. Almost 15 years ago but it feels very close to me.
On of the first demo to really impress me. Love the musik track. About time I thumb this up.
:1,.-1p
or rather :1,.-2g/thumbup/p
great 64kb !
A milestone in the history of PC 64ks, though rather dated now. However, the music still works extremely well, after all these years, thus a nostalgic thumb up. :)
Awesome 64k for its time and still enjoyable!
Was impressive when it came! Just like me!!
I never thumbed up das Produkt? Shame on me.
Still good 14 years after. I was at The Party where it was released, and I can still remember me smiling widely when that insanely aggressive sound started during the grid-texture tunnel part. Fuck that was good entertainment :D
Even the music is worth an award. fr-08 is one of the intros, which have dominated the scene decisively. World class!
still unbelievable that it's 64k
Good technically, but boring. Still thumbs up.
I Feel right at home with that prod! Cozy to watch! Cool soundtrack! AND 64k, wow!
immortal!
Love the demo, of course, but it's kb soundtrack that always mesmerize me - one of my favorite demo music ever.
not my cup of tea, ... but still exceptional good for 64k!!
Just watched this for the millionth time over the years :) Absolutely one of the best demos ever. Of course when I first watched it 15 years ago, my jaw hit the floor because it was only 64k. But it endures because of its industrial beauty, the stark beauty of the landscapes they created just really resonate with me. And the excellent music.
Classic, absolutely classic.
Classic, absolutely classic.
Awesome for it's time, I remember being completely bowled over by this one... yes a little dated now, compared to the recent round of awesomeness in 64k, but still a milestone that will be remembered for years to come :)
The produkt. made me happy. 64 kb of engineer art.
Old but cool .
Oh my god, how can i don't rulez for my favorite 64k demo. This is the best!!!
late thumb. awesome tune that, unlike the rest of the 64k, still kicks ass.
yup
this one was really special for the "tuned computers" at that time... i remember how we got better graphiccards and cpus till 3D was about fluently on screen! i really liked that music and the overall concept... just some more buildings and it would be perfect ...
a goddamn classic
rulez
Simply fantastic and still rulez.
Super!
I always show it to Java programmers to make them feel ashamed that an average Java class, which can barely display a string, is much bigger than this demo, and requires a virtual machine, which again, is hundreds of times bigger :)
I'm not decent to describe product!
Thumb from the past
Still looks great - only giveaway that it's over 17 years old is that the resolution is fairly low.. would look fab in UHD
So it seems that DGVoodoo will run the intro in higher resolutions, just with a couple minor texture bugs. 1600x1080 youtube capture here.
one of the better demos, with an intro that could be set as a warcraft-intro, if there would be some charakters inside. interesting camera style, just i like to see knights or something around.
bought this demo at a local shop in South Africa, wonderful demo showing how incredible skilled Farbrausch is!!!
Great advance in technology, but does not fit me visually.
the music alone. thank you for demo!
Great product!
oh yeah, this was good for its time <3
sentimental trip back to Frau Brauch era ;-)
Here comes the 500th thumb up!
The 3d scenes look crude nowadays but the presentation, music and technique are still impressive. Broke new grounds when it was released and paved the way for all the modern intros with generated data.
Legend. Which got me into the Demoscene in 2000. Still one of the greatest.
Helli Hello Farbrausch
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could you add the chars "61 6e 64 20 74 68 65 6e 20 61 6e 6e 6f 79 20 79 6f 75 20 62 65 63 61 75 73 65 20 79 6f 75 20 64 65 73 65 72 76 65 64 20 69 74" after "the product will make you happy" in case you mean with product a kid like me that is some sort of electrode programmed PROLOG-Programming Language on two legs and please also greet the pool in VIP2 from Popsy-Team and the Code Inside...
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.The .Product does still make me happy indeed; very happy. I think it's because the music is so good and has aged very well for me. I've watched this intro it so many times, I cannot believe I never thumbed it up. Well, better late than never!
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I cannot believe I never thumbed it up. Well, better late than never!
Pioneer of many techniques that all quality 64/4K intros use today.
Long forgotten thumb.
that product
still pretty darn amazing in 2024
Only took me 24y to thumb this one up :)
classic
Still very impressive!
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