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Best demo I ever sang in! :P
ossom
aaawsum!
The shit.
Awesome stuff! Had a lot of fun watching.
youtube live capture (: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0RfrsCV3uc
incredible!
Just impressive. I loved playing on my MegaDrive, but I really didn’t expect it to run things like that. You made me discover the power of the platform. Awesome prod!
Best demo yet!!!!!!!!!! I really like the double twisty. Completely awesome
Awesome!! One of the best entries of Evoke 2013
Smashing, great flow and pace, fast-paced music and lots of nice effects and gfx, rocking hard!
Absolutely stunning. Okay, you would have got everyone's thumb after the Titan/Sega logo already, but everything what came after that ruled as well!
Video of demo here, sorry no emulator plays this properly yet :)
now do a SNES demo plz.
liked it
+ cardridge & packaging
+ platform
+ gfx
+ music
+ tempo
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Solid thumb up!
+ platform
+ gfx
+ music
+ tempo
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Solid thumb up!
I logged in to thumb this up. good pixel art. good music. platform bonus. extra polished with the cartridge label art.
What sigflup said.
Sorry about the broken rom dl link, waiting for fix me beatifull to remove the extra space that crept in (: Until then, this should be the correct link <3
This was great in every way!
Very nice, and a solid thump up for the platform. Good work! (:
Epicness
Superb stuff all around, very enjoyable.
KICKASS SHIT!
Additional comment: one thing that is great about this demo, is how each effect is just about the right amount of time, long enough to impress, short enough to not become boring. Really great job guys!
[Haven't really been involved in this one, so] here's my thumb for epic team work.
because it's a titan prod. i looked for fault in every possible direction
but i can only conclude that this is very, *very* hot stuff
has me in shambles over how a few of those fx are pulled off too
but i can only conclude that this is very, *very* hot stuff
has me in shambles over how a few of those fx are pulled off too
epic stuff!
This was the watch of the evening. Awesome work!
Heilige Scheiße, thank you!
Wonderfully paced demo with some gorgeous pixelart and great effect. All that topped with a superb score. Thanks a lot, the Megadrive is a happy console now.
Wonderfully paced demo with some gorgeous pixelart and great effect. All that topped with a superb score. Thanks a lot, the Megadrive is a happy console now.
In the very near future we will have a very small number of cartridges available, complete with packaging and awesome artworks of Dstar,.. more info soon!
This!
Great! Epic and wonderful!
Wow!
Awesome!!!!
Great!
stunning :D best titan stuff so far :) congrats guys !
Rocks!
Just great!
Fantastic demo! Everything is awesome.
Oldschool on Megadrive...
68k forever! (And a bunch of other custom chips..)
Fuck yeah!
68k forever! (And a bunch of other custom chips..)
Fuck yeah!
Awesome demo with awesome music, amazing to see the MD scene growing lately !
Excellent demo!!!
I'm happy that this is finally done and it was received so well.
Working download link for the impatient: ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/kabuto/parties/2013/evoke/titan-overdrivemegademo.zip (also posted in "fix me beautiful")
Working download link for the impatient: ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/kabuto/parties/2013/evoke/titan-overdrivemegademo.zip (also posted in "fix me beautiful")
New video link (same as "youtube" version):
ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/kabuto/parties/2013/evoke/titan-15.mp4
ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/kabuto/parties/2013/evoke/titan-15.mp4
Great stuff
Massive !
Those green lines near the bottom in the video are an error within the rgb recording hardware/software, not a megadrive/demo bug. Most other bugs are, though :D
Totally rules! Great code and gfx!
Best Demo of Evoke and best Megadrive Demo so far :)
Quality.
yes
Ca poutre :)
Perhaps not technically the most impressive possible stuff, but very solid work.
Yes!
Great
Best sega demo ever. Period.
Finally, a Megadrive demo that truly rules in every aspect! My favorite highlight of Evoke.
Niiiiice!
<3
Wow, hehe. Great design, soundtrack, fast paced and creative ideas, thumbs up!
So many great things there. I didnt even know Genesis had a hidden Mode7 video mode ;)
@alk : you are wrong. it run perfectly on Fusion 3.6 (first emulator i tried)
@alk : you are wrong. it run perfectly on Fusion 3.6 (first emulator i tried)
Not my kind of demo at all but still got me psyched during the compo!
The NFO rulessssssssssssss! :)
Nice
What noby said. Nice graphics, excellent music and good sync make more than up for the not too impressive effects.
made me miss my megadrive :)
CDC high priority on this one!
Titan's MasterPiece... speechless ! So cool to see Alien pixeling again !
Where's my CDC ?!?
Where's my CDC ?!?
Fantastic pixel art, solid music and code ! Bravo !
Awesome as hell! Good work guys!
Fucking awesome Megadrive megademo :)
excellent stuff! enjoy alot of this flashbacks to amiga, xbox and other things
and remember:
SEGA is the new AMIGA
SEGA is the new AMIGA
rockz!
!AWESOME!
The twister was ace. And really awesome gfx.
Rocks! + works well in Gens, in case anyone wonders.
oh boy, that was tasty.
sega does what nintendont!
Loved especially the FM sounds ;)
Loved especially the FM sounds ;)
Ah, some actual oldschool shit, not just in name only. Also the most non-MegaDrive/FM sounding music I've ever heard out of this machine. Good job.
Owsum!
what moqui said
i love you guys <3
i love you guys <3
rulez most rulezingly.
entertaining!
that was rather cool!
What a blow! Great style & music. Really incredible stuff...
Oh, and sexy nfo too :D
Thanks for shooting down Revision in the Greetings :)
wow!
i came. 8 times.
Superb!
It's not a megademo.
But you can tell they had fun making it and I liked the music+game gfx. :) On the effects parts it's the standard parade, but wrapped in some quite nice screens where the gfx 'scored' again. It's unfair to compare the MD to the Amiga hardware, most effects are sprites+playfields and that's it. Still think that vector looked lonesome, though. :) I liked the ISO-fake-perspective-scroll a lot. So simple, yet fresh and effective.
Q: Can the Megadrive stream the music WAV with something automatic or did you have to roll your own with buffers, interrupts etc?
But you can tell they had fun making it and I liked the music+game gfx. :) On the effects parts it's the standard parade, but wrapped in some quite nice screens where the gfx 'scored' again. It's unfair to compare the MD to the Amiga hardware, most effects are sprites+playfields and that's it. Still think that vector looked lonesome, though. :) I liked the ISO-fake-perspective-scroll a lot. So simple, yet fresh and effective.
Q: Can the Megadrive stream the music WAV with something automatic or did you have to roll your own with buffers, interrupts etc?
<3
photon: im really not the techguy on this, but we used a heavy custom modified version of this http://segaretro.org/Echo
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good platform, good demo, thumbs up. TITAN = always tasty.
Yes and most of the optimisations and fixes we wrote for the music in this demo will be put in the official public source code of Echo as well :)
Me lovez it!
ROXXORZ!
yes!
that's quality.
(also waiting for an emulator fix, if possible)
(also waiting for an emulator fix, if possible)
the exodus emulator can emulate it pretty well, however its aim is to be cycle exact and have 100% exact timing of all components (not very true yet but it's a good start)... you need a really beefy i7 to run most parts in full speed, sorry... www.exodusemulator.com but i've heard that it runs well in KEGA Fusion too (www.eidolons-inn.net)
Great
Amazing
<3
OK just checked, Fusion doesn't emulate it well at all ):
Fucking cool, but it locks up on my NTSC Japanese MD :( Hopefully you can release a fixed version.
Hats off to titan
Akira: Sorry, PAL only :)
to make things clear, on the latest fusion version, only 2 of the effects were partially broken, rest run fine here...
This is brilliant! Ran like a charm on my MD2 using an Everdrive MD. Only thing is that there were some small bugs in the lower (VBL?) area, but perhaps this is due to the hardware.
Anyway, back to the demo - I love the pacing, great effects and the graphics style is really fitting of the Megadrive-era.
Anyway, back to the demo - I love the pacing, great effects and the graphics style is really fitting of the Megadrive-era.
Yes it's a side effect. every time you update color memory it outputs a pixel to the screen of the color you just wrote to it. Sucks, but what can you do :) Also if you don't have an i7 you can use an emualtor called Regen (http://aamirm.hacking-cult.org) which we used too and only one part is broken :)
What a stellar demo. The landscape thing is lovely, the pace is great and it's just extremely well done in every respect. By far the best megadrive demo ever.
awesome work titans :)
yeah in regen it seems pretty decent, must choose emulators more carefully ;)
Big ups to everyone involved in this project, and big ups to me who survived all the test bins *phew*
The hell?
Awesome!
Awesome!
Very pleasant demo, i especially liked the shadows in the double twister.
Yeah, platform!, music, effects! Osome!
Rulez!
I have to admit that I was never a huge fan of the Titan's releases, but this surely blows me away. Awesome style, great content, great effects, perfect direction. Why don't look all old-school demos look like this?
Awesome great.
Oh yes! Finally a Sega Genesis demo that does its hardware 200% justice!
Seriously, I was waiting for a proper Sega demo to appear, and you guys delivered. Have a ♥ for your amazing efforts!
PS: Is the 3D cube thingy actually using some nasty VDP trickery to do a hardware flood fill for the faces? From screwing around with the Regen Debug version, it seems like it. Nevertheless it's impressive!
Seriously, I was waiting for a proper Sega demo to appear, and you guys delivered. Have a ♥ for your amazing efforts!
PS: Is the 3D cube thingy actually using some nasty VDP trickery to do a hardware flood fill for the faces? From screwing around with the Regen Debug version, it seems like it. Nevertheless it's impressive!
Massive asskicking prod.
68K rulez!
68K rulez!
Holy shit! That was unexpected, to say the least. MegaDrive demos are usually only so-so. Not because the hardware can't handle it [just look at what C64 is doing], but because the console hasn't been touched by the hands of a dream team. Until now.
Many many thanks for the nice comments folks!
This demo has been a real team effort, in the end 6 coders, 3 artists and a musician were working flat out to make it happen. It was an awesome sight for me to watch a row of guys at Evoke coding on Mega Drives, true scene spirit for this oldschool console which is close to my heart :)
We finally completed the demo at 11pm last night, one hour before the compo was due to start - luckily the Evoke orgas are patient!
Now to have a little rest and complete the cart hardware production.. more info tba (:
@Photon: right, the Mega Drive has an audio chip with 1 pcm channel but no hardware buffers, so the bytes have to be pushed in realtime by the z80, to make things interesting ;)
@Tomoya: I didn't code it but I guess you're onto something :) The engine produces 50hz lightsourced 3D
This demo has been a real team effort, in the end 6 coders, 3 artists and a musician were working flat out to make it happen. It was an awesome sight for me to watch a row of guys at Evoke coding on Mega Drives, true scene spirit for this oldschool console which is close to my heart :)
We finally completed the demo at 11pm last night, one hour before the compo was due to start - luckily the Evoke orgas are patient!
Now to have a little rest and complete the cart hardware production.. more info tba (:
@Photon: right, the Mega Drive has an audio chip with 1 pcm channel but no hardware buffers, so the bytes have to be pushed in realtime by the z80, to make things interesting ;)
@Tomoya: I didn't code it but I guess you're onto something :) The engine produces 50hz lightsourced 3D
JUST WOW! KILLERDEMO THAT!
@alk: Oh, that's neat. I thought it was 30hz. I guess my eyes were wrong.
Also I am not Tomoya. You got a bit confused right there, mate :P
Also I am not Tomoya. You got a bit confused right there, mate :P
VISUALSHOCK! SPEEDSHOCK! SOUNDSHOCK! NOW IS TIME TO THE 68000 HEART ON FIRE!
oldskool forever!!!
Very lovely! Great work!
Awesome!
Great effort behind there.
Simple awesome!
<3
Shit, that was fucking awesome! Best demo, from a party full of great demos :D
fucking awesome.
W T F !!!
this is utmost rules )
I usually have limited patience for "golden era"-themed demos, but this.. was great! :)
Awesome! :)
great!
A textbook demo. Nothing more to add.
Being at a demoparty, watching a compo, feeling "YUP! we have a winner"....
that was really awesome
Massive!
Watched this on the stream, totally EPIC!. Awesome graphics, great flow and the soundtrack is totally sick! I could hear Franky on the stream shouting "holy f@@k!!" when the landscape part kicked off!
Amazing, Amazing, Amazing!
Can we have the soundtrack please??
awesome work. It was really enjoyable on the big screen. Respect to titan!
thanks to all of you for the kind comments. we love you.
djh0ffman: link added.
djh0ffman: link added.
link removed temporarily :D music file soon.
Great
Amazing. This is totally awesome work and the Echo audio engine sounds rad. Getting it onto the Everdrive ASAP (next step, obtain PAL Megadrive!)
right version of music file added to the links. enjoy!
Had to log in just to thumb this prod up, amazing stuff <3
Titan rulez Sega! :)
Rocks. Hard.
During the PCB twister cube scene I was a bit worried that I was in for your average dubstep demo soundtrack. Luckily I was wrong.
Well-paced, nice graphics, polished presentation. Certainly the best MD prod to date.
I'm giving it a thumb from watching the youtube video. Hopefully I'll be able to watch it on my PAL MD2 soon.
Well-paced, nice graphics, polished presentation. Certainly the best MD prod to date.
I'm giving it a thumb from watching the youtube video. Hopefully I'll be able to watch it on my PAL MD2 soon.
Great soundtrack, very nice pixel graphics, some really clever effects, all and all the ultimate MD demo.
Great pace, loved it.
Guess you killed the Megadrive scene. I tried not to like it but miserably failed.
What Pixtur wrote! fucking awesome!
mind blown, thanks so much for the shout out <3 you guys are amazing
fuck sorry, that was supposed to be a thumbs up :( can this be fixed?
yes, post something with a thumb up :) thx!
Had nothing to do with this product so thumb way up because this is very very good.
get back in scene Auld. we miss u.
Very nice demo indeed, exceeded my expectations :)
All my yes.
\o/
top
the awesomeness!
ℝuleℤ
Oww man, it's so polished it hurts.
From the tune that make the organic VU meter go off the limits, to the awesome effects to the damn awesome graphics from alk and titan (I'd love to have t-shirts of every one of them pls ^^)
That bitmap scaling really stunned me, knowing that the SNES has some build in thingy for it - but seeing the good old MegaDrive doing that felt damn good (after deciding to save for a MegaDrive as a kid and not a SNES).
The transitions are flawless, and it took me a couple of views to spot some of the details - like the bot bathing, the tentacle and the three legged bot to blink. Wow - just wow.
When the fast spinning cube came up I almost lost it, playing LHX Attack Cooper as a kid I thought that's all the 3D the machine could do - but ney, you showed me that it's capable of more :D
The only critic I have is that the 512 colour pic (despite being nuts that the machine is able to show that) isn't coming of as bunt as it could be. Though that took me several views,so it's not really putting me off either =)
All that said I hope the request for a cartridge isn't lost, I'd love to dedust the box just for that. You guys suck (one right into the repeat demo watching loop :D)
Also Alien please start to sell T-Shirts with your logo's pretty please :3
From the tune that make the organic VU meter go off the limits, to the awesome effects to the damn awesome graphics from alk and titan (I'd love to have t-shirts of every one of them pls ^^)
That bitmap scaling really stunned me, knowing that the SNES has some build in thingy for it - but seeing the good old MegaDrive doing that felt damn good (after deciding to save for a MegaDrive as a kid and not a SNES).
The transitions are flawless, and it took me a couple of views to spot some of the details - like the bot bathing, the tentacle and the three legged bot to blink. Wow - just wow.
When the fast spinning cube came up I almost lost it, playing LHX Attack Cooper as a kid I thought that's all the 3D the machine could do - but ney, you showed me that it's capable of more :D
The only critic I have is that the 512 colour pic (despite being nuts that the machine is able to show that) isn't coming of as bunt as it could be. Though that took me several views,so it's not really putting me off either =)
All that said I hope the request for a cartridge isn't lost, I'd love to dedust the box just for that. You guys suck (one right into the repeat demo watching loop :D)
Also Alien please start to sell T-Shirts with your logo's pretty please :3
So nice to see you guys finally got this released after so much sweat and tears, a real team-effort!
Since I haven't been involved in making this prod, might as well give you a well-deserved thumb for it! Now do a SNES one! :)
Since I haven't been involved in making this prod, might as well give you a well-deserved thumb for it! Now do a SNES one! :)
I'll give it a thumb up for the effort despite there are no real killer effects in this demo. The Plasma was blocky, the vectors jerky and I have seen the bubble sprites in a SNES demo more than 10 years ago...
The music was a mess, but a nice mix of samples and FM.
The music was a mess, but a nice mix of samples and FM.
At least! Was waiting it for monthes to fill my everdrive. It's the first hardware megadrive demo with some real transitions, hardest part to do I really guess. Even if some effects are not that good (specially the axelay wanabish effect which really lacks cylinder effect...), some other are effective, and the audio/graphics are outstanding, like always for titan. Too bad I couldn't be part of it, thanks for the great anyway, glad you have demoscene spirit.
Hope to see more.
Bioloid :)
Hope to see more.
Bioloid :)
Simply epic!
this is exaclty how "oldschool" demos should be nowadays.
awesome thing.
awesome thing.
Still can´t believe what i just have seen! Best MD Demo evar!
Effing awesome guys. Can't wait for the mailman to deliver my cart. And since I wasn't involved in the making of this other than in the role of a drooling fanboy, take all of my "self" thumbs and CDCs. Titan sucks, whatcha gonna do.
yuuup
Awesome! <3
rulez, titan sucks :)
Simply yes!
OH MY FUCK THIS IS AWESOME
More hardcore dan gabbers in de negen-zes!
Fucking Wicked!
RULES!!!
Titan still sucks!
titan DOES suck!
so here's an extra thumb up!
so here's an extra thumb up!
.xcellent!
Fun!
AWESOME! :D
Finally the Mega Drive go a great demo that showed at least some of its hidden potential. Jon Burton from Travellers Tales in the UK showed what effects can be done in Micky Mania, Puggsy and Toy Story. Also Erwin Kloibhofer showed some great effects in The Misadventures of Flink ...
This is just so massive...
This was great, well-deserved winner.
Demoscene production at its best and the music is just wonderful. One of the most lovely things I have seen in a while :)
Gens emulator running this demo accurate.
TITAN, OPEN YOUR SOURCES!
TITAN, OPEN YOUR SOURCES!
Nooo! Gens is a terrible emulator, especially when it comes to sound ;)
Here use this one: http://oerg866.mdscene.net/.stuff/retroarch_titan.zip
run titan.bat
It's the best emulator for this demo ATM.... (retroarch + genesis plus GX)
Here use this one: http://oerg866.mdscene.net/.stuff/retroarch_titan.zip
run titan.bat
It's the best emulator for this demo ATM.... (retroarch + genesis plus GX)
Yes! Some great hardware-worthy megademo action here :)
Holy moly that was awesome. Especially the tune, what a kick ass prod.
I was not involved into this production so fuck the shit. This production seriously deserves ma fucking thumb up! Since a long time i have not seen such a great production and team work (except *finally* past years).
I cant wait to get my cart and watch it here on real hardware. I am so depressed that i couldnt be at evoke this year due health problems and i know that i missed a historical moment of the MD scene.
Go TiTAN! I hope the spirit will remain a lot longer!
I cant wait to get my cart and watch it here on real hardware. I am so depressed that i couldnt be at evoke this year due health problems and i know that i missed a historical moment of the MD scene.
Go TiTAN! I hope the spirit will remain a lot longer!
It hardly contains any technical surprises (to be very honest).
But it is all being executed so extremely well, with a lot of attention to detail, nice graphics and excellent soundtrack, that it _is_ now the reference demo on Sega's 16-Bit system.
Full stop.
Kudos also for the cover art - Excellent idea, extremely well done.
But it is all being executed so extremely well, with a lot of attention to detail, nice graphics and excellent soundtrack, that it _is_ now the reference demo on Sega's 16-Bit system.
Full stop.
Kudos also for the cover art - Excellent idea, extremely well done.
simply fab :) and as some other folks said, great to see Alien doing more pixel joy <3
It doesn't get more demostyle than this! I had a real blast watching! Terrific graphics (great robots), sound and effects/code I never saw in any games back in the days.
How about that rotating wheel? I don't remember megadrive had such a rotation chip. There is a slight risk this demo will kill off the platform (like that tbl demo killed off psp). I hope we'll see many more megadrive demos though. looks like a platform with potential.
How about that rotating wheel? I don't remember megadrive had such a rotation chip. There is a slight risk this demo will kill off the platform (like that tbl demo killed off psp). I hope we'll see many more megadrive demos though. looks like a platform with potential.
yes
Quote:
How about that rotating wheel? I don't remember megadrive had such a rotation chip
It doesn't :-)
SUPER !
Oh yessss~
Maybe this will spark some competition on other platforms than what we've all seen every year? :D
Maybe this will spark some competition on other platforms than what we've all seen every year? :D
Wow! Best Mega Drive demo ever made - and also the best demo from Evoke. I hope you guys will keep rocking this machine.
Coolness!
+ additional .nfo thumb
+ additional .nfo thumb
Damn, this is the level of coolness I'll probably never achieve :) Solid thumb up, well done guys!
nice.
Best
MegaDemo
Ever
MegaDemo
Ever
this demo... is __awesome__ and on a sega genesis!
Cool demo, but low on new ideas. Just the usual fx that's used in most other demos on oldschool platforms. Twisters & plasmas, not in a new way either. But still a thumb up for a good demo vibe.
Didn't like the music and I never had a Megadrive but there's no denying this is high quality stuff.
This makes me want to have a megadrive.
Cool and detailed stuff on the screen and strobe tune <3, nice flow too.
Rocked the compo and hasn't stopped rocking yet.
Cool and detailed stuff on the screen and strobe tune <3, nice flow too.
Rocked the compo and hasn't stopped rocking yet.
very nice gfx and all!
Turbo turbo! With killer music.
Kicking ARS!
Pretty polished, good tune, nice flow.
:O Amazing work! Finally people are starting to release for the Megadrive. Effects and music were very impressive for the platform.
Always been a fan of the Mega Drive. Very happy to see this demo happen. :)
for the platform... for the style... for the work... damn yeahhhhhhhhh \O/
awesome work ;) ruled the bigscreen
Best stuff from Evoke 2013, kicking ass with superb music score. Hands and thumbs up !!!!
Boys, I'm extremely proud of you, keep the demosoul alive :)
I am giving a thumb-down because IKS is a coward that spreads the hate throughout the IRC in name of this titaTitan group. Are you reading this, you coward? He told us this story, and while he does not want this war, WE WANT. You are not a man, IKS, you are a rat. A coward. A jealous one. We wont stop until we bring some of your teeth to him. Loser. Coward.
I wish I could give you a thumbs down
Hi IKS_coward,
Wishing you safety, peace and happiness :)
alk <3
Wishing you safety, peace and happiness :)
alk <3
Hi, iks_coward, i'm quite proud you create an account to insult me.
And if you feel I deserve this just because i told you "no" when you asked for a shell account on the titan server, then I hope everything will get better for you, someday, and that you'll accept the "no" as a normal reply in a normal discussion between adults people.
May you have a nice life <3
Your next beer is on me.
And if you feel I deserve this just because i told you "no" when you asked for a shell account on the titan server, then I hope everything will get better for you, someday, and that you'll accept the "no" as a normal reply in a normal discussion between adults people.
May you have a nice life <3
Your next beer is on me.
WOW!
really enjoyed the music and the gfx and great code
A great demo, with excellent graphics. I love it. Sega Mega Drive is my favourite video gaming console, so the platform is an extra plus.
This is a masterpiece. Very well done!
No idea how this ranks technically among Mega Drive prods, but the whole presentation, the soundtrack and all the details surrounding the release rock SO hard.
Btw, can it be that you used »my« evoke-heart instead of the real. Because they look different. (:
That's cool
Not bad. :)
totally epic
This demo breathes oldschool, it is soaked with oldschool, it embodies oldschool , it simply is oldschool, replace "oldschool" with "awesomeness" and draw your conclusions that I like it a lot! :)
Adrenaline rush of the year!
very solid demo!
boom
epic
Cool presentation indeed, but as a coder I must say,it doesnt really looks like its stretching the hardware.
This console can display 80 sprites by spec, so the "bob" parts doesnt seem to do much than using whats already there.
Twisters, must be easy to change the gfx pointer per line, & 64kb & 64 colors for twister gfx should allow for something nicer. nice touch with doing 2 tho.
plasma: meh
fly over houses: gfx pointer manipulation over two playfields. nice idea tho.
rotating wheel, now this is interesting, looks like the HW helps to rotate some amount then change of gfx. probably best part technically.
chessboard: cool looking screen, HW seems to be used like to its 30% potential.
filled cube: very low accuracy rotation for a cpu with 32 bit and multiplication for free. and why is the damn thing so small?
This console can display 80 sprites by spec, so the "bob" parts doesnt seem to do much than using whats already there.
Twisters, must be easy to change the gfx pointer per line, & 64kb & 64 colors for twister gfx should allow for something nicer. nice touch with doing 2 tho.
plasma: meh
fly over houses: gfx pointer manipulation over two playfields. nice idea tho.
rotating wheel, now this is interesting, looks like the HW helps to rotate some amount then change of gfx. probably best part technically.
chessboard: cool looking screen, HW seems to be used like to its 30% potential.
filled cube: very low accuracy rotation for a cpu with 32 bit and multiplication for free. and why is the damn thing so small?
oh and the interference, built in playfield + that brightness HW mode "magic".
^ Mul is only 16x16 and takes quite a bunch of cycles, not as bad as Div though :P
The presentation is awesome here ! Very nice use of all the hardware bits !
The presentation is awesome here ! Very nice use of all the hardware bits !
Hey Oswald,
Except this is not the Amiga where you get half a dozen custom chips and easy graphic modes that take all the load off you!
80 sprites by spec. Yeah, I wish. Strict limit per scan line + 80 if they're 8x8 and scattered all over the screen. Just because the hardware has memory for 80 sprite definitions doesn't mean it can display them all.
There is no "GFX pointer". What's a GFX pointer? Yes must be easy. Must also be easy to render the shadows by changing some "GFX pointer".
Yes, 64kb. Which holds 16KB of nametable definitions, the horizontal scroll parameters (240*2 words), the sprite definitions (80*8 bytes).
Yes, 64 colors. Actually only 61, since you only have one BG color, not three, for 4 palettes. Actually limited to one palette per 8x8 block. And you have four. Good luck rewriting these every line.....
Yes. Looks like the HW helps to rotate some amount. Except this isn't the SNES, and there is no rotation HW at all.
Yeah, probably only like 30%. And that text must be prerendered, too. (Hint: sarcasm)
Multiplication is free.. um... no it's not. I would hardly call an instruction that eats 70 cycles "free".
And remember the display is built using a nametable that defines what 8x8 chars that reside in VRAM are displayed where. This is not an amiga. We can't just render stuff at will without adding a huge amount of wasted cycles to find out where to write things.
And remember, VRAM isn't mapped to address space. You either DMA (which halts the CPU... thanks SEGA) or bang data through a port. Either way it's slow as hell.
Nope, completely wrong. It's a separate playfield + two layers of sprites. No "fancy brightness mode" (which is called shadow & highlight by the way and can't be applied here).
Did I mention that you need to interleave your sound code with timer checks wherever you are to check if you need to push a sample? While managing 9 other sound channels? I'm sure that's also done by modyfing "some pointers" :)
Seriously if you don't know how hard it is to get anything going on a tile-based graphics system (no fancy bitmap modes like on amiga), please don't write dumb things like these :)
And while we never said this is the most technically advanced demo on megadrive, I'm ready to stuff my mouth if you write an MD demo that trashes this one technically. Free beer included!
But I'm sure it must be nicer to read docs and say "well this can do better" without having to prove it...
But after all, it's just
"modifying a gfx pointer" :)
Have a nice day!
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Cool presentation indeed, but as a coder I must say,it doesnt really looks like its stretching the hardware.
Except this is not the Amiga where you get half a dozen custom chips and easy graphic modes that take all the load off you!
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This console can display 80 sprites by spec, so the "bob" parts doesnt seem to do much than using whats already there.
80 sprites by spec. Yeah, I wish. Strict limit per scan line + 80 if they're 8x8 and scattered all over the screen. Just because the hardware has memory for 80 sprite definitions doesn't mean it can display them all.
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Twisters, must be easy to change the gfx pointer per line, & 64kb & 64 colors for twister gfx should allow for something nicer. nice touch with doing 2 tho.
There is no "GFX pointer". What's a GFX pointer? Yes must be easy. Must also be easy to render the shadows by changing some "GFX pointer".
Yes, 64kb. Which holds 16KB of nametable definitions, the horizontal scroll parameters (240*2 words), the sprite definitions (80*8 bytes).
Yes, 64 colors. Actually only 61, since you only have one BG color, not three, for 4 palettes. Actually limited to one palette per 8x8 block. And you have four. Good luck rewriting these every line.....
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rotating wheel, now this is interesting, looks like the HW helps to rotate some amount then change of gfx. probably best part technically.
Yes. Looks like the HW helps to rotate some amount. Except this isn't the SNES, and there is no rotation HW at all.
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chessboard: cool looking screen, HW seems to be used like to its 30% potential.
Yeah, probably only like 30%. And that text must be prerendered, too. (Hint: sarcasm)
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filled cube: very low accuracy rotation for a cpu with 32 bit and multiplication for free. and why is the damn thing so small?
Multiplication is free.. um... no it's not. I would hardly call an instruction that eats 70 cycles "free".
And remember the display is built using a nametable that defines what 8x8 chars that reside in VRAM are displayed where. This is not an amiga. We can't just render stuff at will without adding a huge amount of wasted cycles to find out where to write things.
And remember, VRAM isn't mapped to address space. You either DMA (which halts the CPU... thanks SEGA) or bang data through a port. Either way it's slow as hell.
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oh and the interference, built in playfield + that brightness HW mode "magic".
Nope, completely wrong. It's a separate playfield + two layers of sprites. No "fancy brightness mode" (which is called shadow & highlight by the way and can't be applied here).
Did I mention that you need to interleave your sound code with timer checks wherever you are to check if you need to push a sample? While managing 9 other sound channels? I'm sure that's also done by modyfing "some pointers" :)
Seriously if you don't know how hard it is to get anything going on a tile-based graphics system (no fancy bitmap modes like on amiga), please don't write dumb things like these :)
And while we never said this is the most technically advanced demo on megadrive, I'm ready to stuff my mouth if you write an MD demo that trashes this one technically. Free beer included!
But I'm sure it must be nicer to read docs and say "well this can do better" without having to prove it...
But after all, it's just
"modifying a gfx pointer" :)
Have a nice day!
Holy crap, this ruled. SSSEEEEGAAAAAA!
@oerg866:
coming from the c64, I would expect more from a 68000 coupled with next next gen 2 playfield gfx + 80 sprites, 512 color, other than stuff that looks like c64 did in early 90's, lifted to 16 bit standard.
You have right though, I have no idea how hard is to do stuff with the kind of weird console HW of the era, where you have hardly access to the framebuffer.
somewhere I read Genesis can do smth like 3.35mb/s with dma, thats smth like 64 kb at 50fps. so shouldnt that be enough to push out big flat cube ? Just asking I'd really like to know where and what is the bottleneck. is there really no chance for per pixel effects?
also tiles can be your friend, you can just draw the edges of the cube, and fill the inbetween with full tiles.
70 cycle mul is a luxury compared to where I come from, -we write our mul routines-, so is having time to check some timer if it's time to write a sample. boy we're happy if we can push samples fast enough, or having the bit depth. :D
obviously there is more work and tricking going on as I thought so sorry for that.
coming from the c64, I would expect more from a 68000 coupled with next next gen 2 playfield gfx + 80 sprites, 512 color, other than stuff that looks like c64 did in early 90's, lifted to 16 bit standard.
You have right though, I have no idea how hard is to do stuff with the kind of weird console HW of the era, where you have hardly access to the framebuffer.
somewhere I read Genesis can do smth like 3.35mb/s with dma, thats smth like 64 kb at 50fps. so shouldnt that be enough to push out big flat cube ? Just asking I'd really like to know where and what is the bottleneck. is there really no chance for per pixel effects?
also tiles can be your friend, you can just draw the edges of the cube, and fill the inbetween with full tiles.
70 cycle mul is a luxury compared to where I come from, -we write our mul routines-, so is having time to check some timer if it's time to write a sample. boy we're happy if we can push samples fast enough, or having the bit depth. :D
obviously there is more work and tricking going on as I thought so sorry for that.
Well, the maximum DMA capacity is, if you use 320x224 in PAL mode, 23KB per frame, and that's if you use the entire frame for DMAing. Any calculations and rendering will obviously severely impair that bandwidth... :)
Totally great.
Frantic visuals and music, a lot going on. Music might sell it a bit too hard in some parts (I was relieved when the multiplane checkerboard breakdown appeared), but in general it's awesome and I'd watch more.
Also nice little intro on the video version :)
Also nice little intro on the video version :)
MD.emu for android works well with this demo.
Just great!
Any news when and where additional cartridges of the demo will be available for sale? I would be more than happy to add one to my collection.
MegaDrive <3
i have absolutely no idea if it's technically impressive or what, but i really like the pacing and flow of it. a great piece of oldschool demo design.
Just modded my Genesis for 50Hz in order to watch this on real hardware, and it was worth it. A really amazing demo, hats off.
platform closed
Mega-motherfucking-drive<3 ... BOOOOOOM! ;)
Good stuff :)
Music, Code and Graphics/Design are absolutely amazing
I love the attention to details in here but most of the effects are actually rather poor for a 68k cpu.
All I remember after watching it (twice) is a twister and a swinging melon.
All I remember after watching it (twice) is a twister and a swinging melon.
Next demo we'll plug a 68k into a potato, should be able to produce rink-a-dink redux! :-)
Really enjoyed this demo..!
I want to comment again!
Awesome!
Imagine a game with these effects, 20 years ago.
Totally digging that last logo as well
Imagine a game with these effects, 20 years ago.
Totally digging that last logo as well
There actually were games 20 years ago with much better effects. And i don't count parallax scrolling and tons of sprites as effects. I mean real effects which you never thought would be possible on the Mega Drive:
- Puggsy (Travellers Tales)
- Misadventures of Flink (Psygnosis)
- Toy Story (Travellers Tales)
- Micky Mania (Travellers Tales)
- Adventures of Batman & Robin (Clockwork Tortoise)
- Panorama Cotton (Success)
- Mega Turrican (Factor 5)
- Vectorman 1 + 2 (Blue Sky)
- Earthworm Jim 1 + 2 (Shiny)
- Pier Solar (Watermelon)
- Dynamite Headdy (Treasure)
- Ranger X/Ex-Ranza (Rau)
- Contra Hard Cops (Konami)
- Gunstar Heroes (Treasure)
- Alien Soldier (Treasure)
- Castlevania (Konami
- Red Zone (Zyrinx)
- Sub Terrania (Zyrinx)
- And many more i just don't remember yet ...
- Puggsy (Travellers Tales)
- Misadventures of Flink (Psygnosis)
- Toy Story (Travellers Tales)
- Micky Mania (Travellers Tales)
- Adventures of Batman & Robin (Clockwork Tortoise)
- Panorama Cotton (Success)
- Mega Turrican (Factor 5)
- Vectorman 1 + 2 (Blue Sky)
- Earthworm Jim 1 + 2 (Shiny)
- Pier Solar (Watermelon)
- Dynamite Headdy (Treasure)
- Ranger X/Ex-Ranza (Rau)
- Contra Hard Cops (Konami)
- Gunstar Heroes (Treasure)
- Alien Soldier (Treasure)
- Castlevania (Konami
- Red Zone (Zyrinx)
- Sub Terrania (Zyrinx)
- And many more i just don't remember yet ...
Rockadoodle: Panorama Cotton, I remember this now D:
very good and pleasant to see.
Breathtaking prod!!
Incredibly well done.
This demo is one of the reasons why the Megadrive/Genesis ruled and the Super Nintendo/Famicom sucked. There, I said it. Keep making more!
Phenomenal.
Glad to have been beaten by such a prod in the compo. This awesome prod could not lose. Well done, guys.
YEAHYEAHYEAHRRRRR!!11
Amazing
Insane ammount of quality artwork and the music fits well.. The effects look a bit outdated for me, kinda like a c64 demo with a lots of colors, maybe my expectations are a bit too high regarding hw. At least the games looked way better on MD than on Amiga500 back in the days.
The only effect I really liked, was that landscape thing with the overlayed clouds.
The only effect I really liked, was that landscape thing with the overlayed clouds.
btw where to line up for a cartridge, and what will it cost / what parts should be provided?
v3nom: send me your email addy to irokosataciddotorg. we'll contact you when everything will be ready. it might need some patience. it'll cost 10 bucks.
amazing & bloody stuff! rlz
this was pretty amazing in almost all aspects. great job
I finally had the chance to watch this masterpiece on real hardware in full framerate. It looks even more impressive than on an emulator or on the youtube video(s).
An incredible demo. Excellent work.
I just love the futility of a bodybuilding robot. Enough for a thumb by itself. Good demo too.
Btw. This was giving me a serious headache, then I realized to switch to PAL timing.
Btw. This was giving me a serious headache, then I realized to switch to PAL timing.
What Gopher said. Great work all round! :)
Extremely tight, all the effects were *exactly* the right length IMHO and nicely varied.
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Also Erwin Kloibhofer showed some great effects in The Misadventures of Flink ..
Was this Mr. Kloibhofer related to the demoscene? I recall having read something...
Overdrive v1.1 *final* released!
Now with full NTSC support and various tweaks and fixes :)
EPROMS are currently burning, we'll send emails to the people on the cart list as soon as we have the carts in our hands - Happy Christmas Scene!
alk XX
Now with full NTSC support and various tweaks and fixes :)
EPROMS are currently burning, we'll send emails to the people on the cart list as soon as we have the carts in our hands - Happy Christmas Scene!
alk XX
You idiot. Why are you still using Gens nowadays? Stop that!
Rom Halted.
I checked out the emulator version and when I saw this I laughed. I wholeheartedly agree with this though.
Rom Halted.
I checked out the emulator version and when I saw this I laughed. I wholeheartedly agree with this though.
Gawd, you all are making carts. That's so cool.
Reason to buy a Megadrive.
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Gotta love them robots! Titan really now how to suck, NOT?
Yes!
<3
this is good... especially the cube...
really great
Here's mah thumb!
Seriously, most awesome demo on the MD ever.
On a differente note, what kind of EPROM are you guys going to use for the carts? Just out of curiosity :-)
Seriously, most awesome demo on the MD ever.
On a differente note, what kind of EPROM are you guys going to use for the carts? Just out of curiosity :-)
Very high energy in this prod! :-)
awesome demo guys! :) nice pace.
Still the best Mega Drive prod.
Thanks a lot dudes :)
Karuto: The EPROM is '27C322' (32Mbit, 5V, 120ns)
Karuto: The EPROM is '27C322' (32Mbit, 5V, 120ns)
Motherfucking A!
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Solid prod! Nicely done. Sweet loader and effects. Keep your eye on the fruit!
Gee! This is spanking great! Thumbs up for sure!
AWESOME PROD!
AND ON SEGA GENESIS! \:D/
AND ON SEGA GENESIS! \:D/
It blew me away. Never would have thought the Genesis could achieve such feats.
Very solid demo with good flow.
i unexpectedly had the chance to play the cartridge LIVE on a real mega drive at Nordlicht2014
=)
=)
This rocks hard as Titan! :) really like the megadrive gfx and sounds too. Fine demo-machine.
<insert missing thumb>
fucking awesome on all fronts :-D
wow, mo' mega-drive demoscenes plz
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Stunning!
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Not bad.
Absolutely amazing demo with a great pace.
And the music is just <3 !! ((=
And the music is just <3 !! ((=
This is absolutely mindblowing. I've seen Treasure work some wizardry on this hardware back in the early 90s, but this demo takes it several levels further.
"Tee ite parempi"
Holy cow, even years later than its release date!
Updating to thumb up.
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Teh best!
TITAN SUCKS!
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SNES Sucks!
MegaDrive rulez!
MegaDrive rulez!
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Didn't see that one back then; It's a really well crafted demo with efficient synchros and good code (6 coders ?! You've got way too many members ;D), good gfx and fitting music.
Strange that it wasn't nominated for some awards.
Strange that it wasn't nominated for some awards.
Oh my god! This is way too awesome for it to be on the Genesis! Thumbs up for you.
@hitchhikr: because there were none in 2013 :( meteoriks started a year later and scene.org stopped a year earlier. bad luck ;)
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mega
megasegageil!
I rewatched this recently; I feel humbled our group is greeted in such a high quality prod. Thank you.
Wahou, i'am not a md fan in general but this demo rocks(better IMO than OD2) .
I share photon's opinion about effects, but the music is so nice,with very well paced effects and good transitions.
i expect doing a supergrafx demo in the future which prove that TITAN really sucks ;-) (it's a joke, i like your stuffs really ), i think this is the kind of stuffs which makes others (snes / pcengine) want to do things better and better.
Congrats guys . ;-)
I share photon's opinion about effects, but the music is so nice,with very well paced effects and good transitions.
i expect doing a supergrafx demo in the future which prove that TITAN really sucks ;-) (it's a joke, i like your stuffs really ), i think this is the kind of stuffs which makes others (snes / pcengine) want to do things better and better.
Congrats guys . ;-)
wow, very very cool
I wonder how many channels on the YM2612 had to be used to get the speech to work. I knew it was possible to do it but I've never heard it done before.
Awesome production!
Awesome
great
rulez suprem
Super demo in every aspect !!!
I am very late to the party here... And I must admit I am not familiar with the platform. But, this demo has a great pace and flow. Your demomaking-fu is very strong !!! And Strobeflux's soundtrack is smashing. 10/10
nice one
nice for my mind
Yup!
Great demo and fun reference to desert dream :)
magnifico!
awesome
OMG, how did I miss this?!
Incredible!!
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The graphics were nice and the music was very catchy.