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so what pronouns should I use for people whose genitals I haven't personally inspected? just taking notes here
anti-ukraine propaganda, transphobia, justification of the "special military operation" - this production has something for everyone's taste. and even in english, for everyone to see.
Oh fuck Putin, fuck transphobia, fuck anti Ukraine propaganda.
Slava Ukraini! Trans rights are human rights!
Slava Ukraini! Trans rights are human rights!
the mag engine is good, the reviews on games and pixel art are also good. having translated versions is cool (although i didn't check their quality of translation, the english one seemed good)
shame the editorial attitude is to litter the mag with political propaganda.
extra lol points for the paragraphs on how he tries to keep zx-art free of political discussion, while actively releasing these kind of articles provoking people and cleaning their dirty laundry in public.
shame the editorial attitude is to litter the mag with political propaganda.
extra lol points for the paragraphs on how he tries to keep zx-art free of political discussion, while actively releasing these kind of articles provoking people and cleaning their dirty laundry in public.
At first I was like hmmmmmm. Then I was like 'oh!'. And then I was like, hell no thumbs down.
i kinda don't even want to comment on this, because honestly there's nothing here even worth considering or thinking about, or evaluating critically. i mean that's apparent from just the editorial, but also try reading the "colonization" section; it's an incoherent mess that doesn't even come close to making a point, let alone arguing for one successfully.
perhaps it's in part the english translation, but this is text clearly aimed towards "outsiders"—hence why i expect so many different translations exist—so i'd expect more attention to be put into actually writing something worthwhile. not that any of these arguments or political viewpoints convincing at all. strawmen all the way down.
this is not worth anyone's time, and not worth drawing any attention to. there's nothing wrong with writing—even in demoscene context—about political topics, but this degree of sophistry combined with whining about others not coming to agreement with your poorly argued reprehensible politics is pathetic.
also yeah, that's not to even say anything about how fundamentally objectionable the politics themselves are, as outlined by other comments already. if you read this comment, then seriously, don't bother looking this up or reading it, or putting up an empty thumbs down as a statement. just move on; this isn't worth drawing attention to.
perhaps it's in part the english translation, but this is text clearly aimed towards "outsiders"—hence why i expect so many different translations exist—so i'd expect more attention to be put into actually writing something worthwhile. not that any of these arguments or political viewpoints convincing at all. strawmen all the way down.
this is not worth anyone's time, and not worth drawing any attention to. there's nothing wrong with writing—even in demoscene context—about political topics, but this degree of sophistry combined with whining about others not coming to agreement with your poorly argued reprehensible politics is pathetic.
also yeah, that's not to even say anything about how fundamentally objectionable the politics themselves are, as outlined by other comments already. if you read this comment, then seriously, don't bother looking this up or reading it, or putting up an empty thumbs down as a statement. just move on; this isn't worth drawing attention to.
Блядей корёжит! 😀 Браво! 🥳
sux
yep, this suxx very well
Mods playing by the lefty media playbook, replacing the menu screenshot with something more provocative because that 800% represents the prod (apparently) - while the comment section, xeron especially, keeps waxing the same tired, empty cultist rhetoric. Man, and here I thought this was Pouet, not Bluesky!
Oh, also piggy.
Oh, also piggy.
nix, are you hallucinating? the pouet screenshot is the same as it has been before.
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nix, are you hallucinating? the pouet screenshot is the same as it has been before.
Nice try at gaslighting me, try harder.
and even if the screenshot was "provocative" (which i don't see here): если в бочку меда положить ложку говна, получится бочка говна. and that's what happened to this prod, despite the cool graphics, interface, music, cracktro etc.
ok, my bad, i see now what you mean after taking another browser. apparently, my cache still had the old one. i didn't replace the screenshot. in any case, what i wrote stands.
Oh, the cache, that explains it. But... I'm also gonna stand by what I've said.
Look, I may also not fully agree with some of the more controversial stuff this mag has (the bits about Ukraine specifically - even if the last issue had a couple hit pieces against Russian propaganda, too), but I've already read a few magazines that one would consider downright preposterous, so I knew what to expect.
If anything, some of you guys sound exactly like the kinda people who, after all the... criticisms about politics, would gladly make *anything* political. As long as it's about the "right" politics.
Look, I may also not fully agree with some of the more controversial stuff this mag has (the bits about Ukraine specifically - even if the last issue had a couple hit pieces against Russian propaganda, too), but I've already read a few magazines that one would consider downright preposterous, so I knew what to expect.
If anything, some of you guys sound exactly like the kinda people who, after all the... criticisms about politics, would gladly make *anything* political. As long as it's about the "right" politics.
hell no.
In general, I have no problem with mags being controversial and portraying a variety of opinions. But justifying a war of aggression (where people I know personally get displaced, maimed and killed) is a no-go. It devaluates the whole production, the rest of it simply ceases to matter. And now I'll follow Noby's wise advice and stop, so that this barrel of honey with a spoonful of shit (which turns the whole honey into shit) stops getting even more attention.
Smells like onuca.
WTF
"Mods" and "lefty media" have nothing to do with anything here, the content is just retarded, don't blame mods for it.
free glöp
ehhhh..
moroz1999, the author, should be kicked out from Estonia with fucking piss-soaked rags. Hope this happens one beautiful day.
Тебе, тибля, персональный привет прямо из моей пизды, чтоб у тебя не было гендерных непоняток с местоимениями.
Тебе, тибля, персональный привет прямо из моей пизды, чтоб у тебя не было гендерных непоняток с местоимениями.
My comments are not cultist empty rhetoric. I have trans friends who just want a peaceful life and are subject daily to people taking away their rights, and their healthcare. Fuck transphobes and fuck you.
Glöp. I'm sure this will, sadly, find its audience among the "anti-woke" wannabe-edgelords of the scene.
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If anything, some of you guys sound exactly like the kinda people who, after all the... criticisms about politics, would gladly make *anything* political. As long as it's about the "right" politics.
i'm sorry but the quality and nature of the politics do in fact matter. do you imagine that just because some like myself welcome political topics intersecting the demoscene, it should all be accepted with open arms, without any criticism, disapproval or condemnation? this is a rhetorical question, i don't actually care about how you would answer the question. but the fact is that if your politics involve hostility towards me or people i care about, i have no inclination of just ignoring that and putting it aside.
but i should follow my own advice too and not say anything more here. none of the messages or values this release represents deserve any kind of social amplification. do as i say, not as i do… so it goes.
my 2c here are that once you start a war, you have already lost.
that being said: the situation is much more complex than what the media wants you to believe.
it's a political failure on the highest level and, as usual, the common people have to take the fall for it.
my experience with russians is: super nice people who value honesty. and this is my honest opinion.
this crazy war has to stop, right now.
last but not least: let the Ukraine be free, let them decide who they are doing business with (looking at you, "EU", and the "US").
that being said: the situation is much more complex than what the media wants you to believe.
it's a political failure on the highest level and, as usual, the common people have to take the fall for it.
my experience with russians is: super nice people who value honesty. and this is my honest opinion.
this crazy war has to stop, right now.
last but not least: let the Ukraine be free, let them decide who they are doing business with (looking at you, "EU", and the "US").
Just looking at dat screenshot: How do they manage to make every single word look major stupid here?
Authors are wasting their potential. They should be at the frontline, trying to catch a drone.
Good choice of snapshot
What's a bullshit? A total lie. The brainwashed Soviet spectrumies are the shame of the Scene and the shame of Russia. Now they're old farts who remember their happy Soviet childhood, but don't realise that all their cheap Spectrum clones were assembled by their fathers from factory stolen parts.
Lies, theft, corruption and lack of freedom of speech were part and parcel of the USSR, but our Spectrumies were kids and knew nothing about it. They're still kids! Infantilism, lack of critical thinking, belief in conspiracy theories - these are the qualities that make a person a Putin fan. They may code on Z80 assembler, but otherwise their brains are at the level of a 5 year old child.
What's a shame. Who let the kids on Scene? Return them to the Soviet sandbox.
Lies, theft, corruption and lack of freedom of speech were part and parcel of the USSR, but our Spectrumies were kids and knew nothing about it. They're still kids! Infantilism, lack of critical thinking, belief in conspiracy theories - these are the qualities that make a person a Putin fan. They may code on Z80 assembler, but otherwise their brains are at the level of a 5 year old child.
What's a shame. Who let the kids on Scene? Return them to the Soviet sandbox.
nix, I can confirm: I also saw another screenshot yesterday. Probably they changed it twice.
- professional coding work
- excellent overview of the European ZX scene and new ZX- and Next- related software
- one of the few works that doesn't sit only in the bubble of retro-fun
- a fresh wind in the stale basin of European liberal "democratic" correctness and political uniformity
- excellent overview of the European ZX scene and new ZX- and Next- related software
- one of the few works that doesn't sit only in the bubble of retro-fun
- a fresh wind in the stale basin of European liberal "democratic" correctness and political uniformity
To hell with this brainwashed fascist propaganda
Fuck you, fuck this production and fuck your country.
Glöp
I hope this is just something Russians can thumb up to show their "loyalty" to keep their families safe from the oppression machine
Keep politics and scene separated
Stinks.
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Ура! С днем победы! Всех фашистов на виселицу! Всех им сочувствующих - на парашу! Дед - пидор!
What xeron said. Also, thanks Manwe for standing up.
Doesn't matter what other content this mag has, once this enters, it's tainted propaganda. Ukraine wants to rejoin the Soviet empire about as much as Canada wants to be the 51st US state.
Doesn't matter what other content this mag has, once this enters, it's tainted propaganda. Ukraine wants to rejoin the Soviet empire about as much as Canada wants to be the 51st US state.
go drink tea from putin.
Insane how this motivates me to code something that contributes positively to the scene
Just no. It's convenient to support an endlessly ruling dictator when you live far away from him.
Not worthy of attention, much less discussion.
Quality magazine, interesting historical background. Thanks to the authors.
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Quality magazine, interesting historical background. Thanks to the authors.
Ясное дело! читалка за год поправлена на ноль, тексты как были бомжатиной, так и остались, на какие языки их не переводи, зато Крым - твой. Сосите русскую бибу, бомжи, здесь вам не особо рады.
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no.
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Ясное дело! читалка за год поправлена на ноль, тексты как были бомжатиной, так и остались, на какие языки их не переводи, зато Крым - твой. Сосите русскую бибу, бомжи, здесь вам не особо рады.
Grandpa, take your pills.
Salo uronili.
БОМЖ-DEAD
Символ V - Victory=Победа! Бомж Дед люто ратует за победу России над фашистами. В перерывах между поиском денег на бугульму и непосредственно самой бугульмизацией.
Алкоголь портит людей.
Символ V - Victory=Победа! Бомж Дед люто ратует за победу России над фашистами. В перерывах между поиском денег на бугульму и непосредственно самой бугульмизацией.
Алкоголь портит людей.
What Xeron, Preacher, Darya, Nosfe etc said.
Fuck off to the front and don’t come back.
Fuck off to the front and don’t come back.
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Символ V - Victory=Победа! Бомж Дед люто ратует за победу России над фашистами.
Алкоголь портит людей.
Part of scene is now owned by FSB? Thanks, no!
decolonize russia
tl;dr. keep your anti-ukraine propaganda and pro-putin bullshit out of the scene, you insufferable pricks.
trans rights are human rights 🤘
trans rights are human rights 🤘
what the fuck is this
absolutely not, fuck you
also what lynn said
also what lynn said
fuck, this was meant to be a thumbs down. my most embarassing misclick on pouet so far.
To say it sucks is an understatement of the millenium.
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Now your Ukrainian handler won't pay you. Sad.fuck, this was meant to be a thumbs down. my most embarassing misclick on pouet so far.
Everything has been said already
we remember well who supported Nazis:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_military_parade_in_Brest-Litovsk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_military_parade_in_Brest-Litovsk
worth to mention that the leader of Putin's Wagner Group was neonazi:
https://en.respublica.lt/signs-of-neo-nazi-ideology-amongst-russian-mercenaries
https://en.respublica.lt/signs-of-neo-nazi-ideology-amongst-russian-mercenaries
go away
wow, what a car accident
Not sure what frightens me more here: The war, or the comments about it.
From a psychological point of view, such relentless anger seems to indicate more fundamental, underlying issues that just happen to vent as the opportunity arrived (finally being able to hate "righteously").
Our new Pope Leo has a point when he just pleaded:
and just to be clear: I have zero sympathy for war mongers. It is _always_ wrong and never leads to anything good.
From a psychological point of view, such relentless anger seems to indicate more fundamental, underlying issues that just happen to vent as the opportunity arrived (finally being able to hate "righteously").
Our new Pope Leo has a point when he just pleaded:
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Peace begins with each one of us: in the way we look at others, listen to others and speak about others. In this sense, the way we communicate is of fundamental importance: we must say “no” to the war of words and images, we must reject the paradigm of war.
and just to be clear: I have zero sympathy for war mongers. It is _always_ wrong and never leads to anything good.
no
This propaganda is crap.
But a lot of these comments are crap too.
I love how liberalism pretends it didn’t originally conjure up fascism to fight socialism. Putin is not a product of communism, he’s a product of capitalism’s conquest of ex-commie territory.
But a lot of these comments are crap too.
I love how liberalism pretends it didn’t originally conjure up fascism to fight socialism. Putin is not a product of communism, he’s a product of capitalism’s conquest of ex-commie territory.
Honestly, I really hope you stupid warheads learn something finally when your holy "saviour of the world" Putin sends your children into the war as new cannon fodder. Or when they come back either with destroyed personalities or as brutal slaughtermen. I really don't get why you want the world to be like that.
It's very sad to see this prod just exists.
It's just waste of particles of this fucking world for storing this brainroted shit
It's just waste of particles of this fucking world for storing this brainroted shit
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Putin is not a product of communism, he’s a product of capitalism’s
He is literally a child of the totalitarian communist system.
He has served this system as a secret agent for many years.
He uses the same totalitarian methods as communists in many other countries in the 20th century. He also hides behind the fight against fascism.
n/c
What did communism do to you all?
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It's very sad to see this prod just exists.
It's just waste of particles of this fucking world for storing this brainroted shit
exactly right!
not my cup of tea
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It's just waste of particles of this fucking world for storing this brainroted shit
exactly right!
I am ashamed that you have become a traitor. Where is your Russian Massive Digital Aggression? Have a new boss?
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What did communism do to you all?
it's hard to believe that anyone in the 21st century would try to defend communism or fascism
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it's hard to believe that anyone in the 21st century would try to defend communism or fascism
you know nothing about communism.
nobody force communism to you.
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He is literally a child of the totalitarian communist system.
Right. And in that system he was a low rank apparatchik. In your “free market” utopia, he’s a tzar. Waging wars. Killing thousands. Way to go totalitarianism fighters. How about Bin-Laden? Oh, another anti-totalitarianism “free market” creation, just like Vlad here.
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communism or fascism
You’re drinking too much capitalist cool aid. And as such, you’re exactly the tool Putin needs. Historically, fascism was a tool wielded by capitalism to prevent redistribution of wealth.
no to the politics at demoscene
total useless bulshit
4gentE: Yes, unregulated capitalism is inherently fascist. Yes, Putin is a fascist. Yes, Trump is a fascist. Yes, Elon is a fascist. Yes, this prod sucks and everyone defending fascists sucks and needs to be fought against.
"unregulated capitalism is inherently fascist." <- word!
I bet this prod and it's "defenders" commenting on this thread are Putin's machinations to get people agitated about this shit or something.
(And I know this should be prod comments, but it's essentially a forum thread now)
I bet this prod and it's "defenders" commenting on this thread are Putin's machinations to get people agitated about this shit or something.
(And I know this should be prod comments, but it's essentially a forum thread now)
Dear fellow sceners in Russia, I like (many of) your Speccy releases, respect your Z80 skills. Last year I watched Tarkovsky's Solaris for my great pleasure. Prokofiev's 5th is one of my favorite symphonies. Trololo song is one of my favorite Internet memes. I enjoy Russian traffic videos in YouTube.
So there's obviously lots of good to say about Russia. But when it comes to the question whose stories to trust, I'd say this chart is one of the best starting points:
World Press Freedom Index 2025
So there's obviously lots of good to say about Russia. But when it comes to the question whose stories to trust, I'd say this chart is one of the best starting points:
World Press Freedom Index 2025
An interesting issue of the magazine, multifaceted. Good reviews of the demoscene, games, interviews. It's a pity that some saw only politics in it.
For reference: Pouet has openly supported the Ukrainian side for more than two years, changed the design of the site to the palette of the Ukrainian flag, and even repeatedly acted as a platform for donating money against Russia.
Pouet's management is itself mired in politics, and ignores any other opinion except its own.
upd: The flag has finally been removed. Thanks.
For reference: Pouet has openly supported the Ukrainian side for more than two years, changed the design of the site to the palette of the Ukrainian flag, and even repeatedly acted as a platform for donating money against Russia.
Pouet's management is itself mired in politics, and ignores any other opinion except its own.
upd: The flag has finally been removed. Thanks.
i hope these disgusting posts will motivate even more people to "donate money against russia", as vinnny phrases it.
blah, i'm so tired of all this bullshit.
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total useless bulshit
ded^RMDA please comment from your account on such political discussions and don't drag me into all this without my knowledge!
I'd like to know, whether there is any correlation between being pro- or anri-ukrainian and at the same time pro- or anti-palestinian (in connection with Israel). And as a breath of fresh air, same for being pro- or anti-pakistanian in connection with India. So, anybody, dare to express your feelings or beliefs?
to dipswitch: By doing so you are calling for the continuation of the war, its sponsorship. Bravo, ''excellent'' point of view.
to lvd: There are only Russophobes here.
to lvd: There are only Russophobes here.
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By doing so you are calling for the continuation of the war, its sponsorship. Bravo, ''excellent'' point of view.
Your country can stop the war any time. It just doesn't, because it's a fascist regime and a threat to liberty everywhere. Go back inside your own borders to rot in your own misery and preferably step on a mine while doing so.
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because it's a fascist regime
You make very loud statements. Is there any evidence of fascism? I wonder what kind of nonsense your media is feeding us. I live in Russia, and believe me, there are no fascists here. Come visit me, I will be happy to show you our life.
imagine being this fucking dense
There's little point on commenting on crap like this, but it's a good place to put one's honest opinions openly on the table.
Down with fascism.
Down with fascism.
I remember Vinnny and Shuran33 saying things like "please no politics on the Scene". But for some reason they said this when they saw the work dedicated to Alexey Navalny.
Now they see work glorifying Putin and his war, but for some reason they don't say ‘the scene should be free of politics’ anymore.
May be because they are not against politics on the Scene, actually? Maybe they were just lying? Maybe they feel they are soldiers of information warfare and believe that all means are good for victory? Maybe their main weapon is lying, like their idol Putin? Maybe they are playing war games like children, not realising that their propaganda is destroying people's lives and countries' economies?
Personally, I'm not against politics on the Scene and I haven't gagged anyone. I even made the list of the demos with political messages, and I like all of them, despite their political spectre. Because the messages are smart enough and not antihuman.
Anyway, let people say what they think (or just replicate propaganda slogans without critical reflection), so you can judge which of them is stupid or mad.
But in addition to the stupidity, insanity and misanthropy, we see that Putin fans are also liars. They shout "no politics on the Scene" while spreading Putin propaganda. They delete anti-Putin messages from Russian websites, reject such party entries, ban opponents on Russian forums. At the same time, they scream "you on Pouet don't let as speak freely!"
Never do business with people who deliberately lie. Never participate in their DiHalt demoparty.
Now they see work glorifying Putin and his war, but for some reason they don't say ‘the scene should be free of politics’ anymore.
May be because they are not against politics on the Scene, actually? Maybe they were just lying? Maybe they feel they are soldiers of information warfare and believe that all means are good for victory? Maybe their main weapon is lying, like their idol Putin? Maybe they are playing war games like children, not realising that their propaganda is destroying people's lives and countries' economies?
Personally, I'm not against politics on the Scene and I haven't gagged anyone. I even made the list of the demos with political messages, and I like all of them, despite their political spectre. Because the messages are smart enough and not antihuman.
Anyway, let people say what they think (or just replicate propaganda slogans without critical reflection), so you can judge which of them is stupid or mad.
But in addition to the stupidity, insanity and misanthropy, we see that Putin fans are also liars. They shout "no politics on the Scene" while spreading Putin propaganda. They delete anti-Putin messages from Russian websites, reject such party entries, ban opponents on Russian forums. At the same time, they scream "you on Pouet don't let as speak freely!"
Never do business with people who deliberately lie. Never participate in their DiHalt demoparty.
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Maybe they feel they are soldiers of information warfare and believe that all means are good for victory?
The fact is, once you start talking about politics and stuff like you did and choosing sides, no matter it is pro-something or anti-something, no matter which kind of reasoning you are using, you personally *BECOME* that soldier of information warfare. As did the texts typer in this prod. As did lots of commenters above. As just did you.
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But in addition to the stupidity, insanity and misanthropy
How humanly is to blame opponents in all the sins and to try to de-humanize them.
I spent like 15 seconds on this page and
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I live in Russia, and believe me, there are no fascists here. Come visit me, I will be happy to show you our life.
To prove that Russia is a free country where people can freely express their opinions, you could, for example, go to the main square of your city with a modest sign that says "I'm against the war."
No need to explain anything, no criticism of the authorities. Just a peaceful message: "I'm against the war."
You do understand what would happen next, don't you?
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You do understand what would happen next, don't you?
no, they DO NOT
and this is the main problem - they DO NOT want nothing - just sleep, eat, repeat...
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I remember Shuran33 saying things like "please no politics on the Scene".
May be because they are not against politics on the Scene, actually? Maybe they were just lying?
Before the SVO I was against politics on demoscene and always openly expressed it. But if Manwe remember - you yourself convinced me that politics on demoscene is necessary. I listened to your advice, you were right!
I still haven't forgotten what Manwe and TS_Labs wrote to me in the chat in telegram, how much hatred there was from you towards ordinary people. Wake up, look at the hatred coming from you and many of the commentators here.
Maxim(ded^RDMA), how can you live in such a terrible(for you) country? Why haven't you left for the happy free lands yet?
You are all trying to blame me for something, it’s a pity that you don’t see yourself from the outside.
Too much on political topic for scene diskmag. However I like style and spirit (both design and content) - it resembles original C64 diskmags.
I wonder how many people voting and commenting here actually read the articles of the e-mag. I enjoyed graphics reviews, pixel art and magazine engine.
and in general, for ages when reading scene mags if I didn't like the article I'd just skip it. What's wrong with having different opinions? Is it necessary for everyone to be cut from the same cloth? What a boring world would that be.
Just my 2c
and in general, for ages when reading scene mags if I didn't like the article I'd just skip it. What's wrong with having different opinions? Is it necessary for everyone to be cut from the same cloth? What a boring world would that be.
Just my 2c
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Вот ты напрягся писать для русских на инглише :) Думаешь пиндосня прочитает и вникнет в суть?
Желаю всем мира и добра. Даже пидорам, прости Господи...
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I remember Shuran33 saying things like "please no politics on the Scene".
yourself from the outside.
Вот ты напрягся писать для русских на инглише :) Думаешь пиндосня прочитает и вникнет в суть?
Желаю всем мира и добра. Даже пидорам, прости Господи...
“When discussing, please stick to English.”
https://www.pouet.net/faq.php
https://www.pouet.net/faq.php
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randomi wrote:
and in general, for ages when reading scene mags if I didn't like the article I'd just skip it. What's wrong with having different opinions? Is it necessary for everyone to be cut from the same cloth? What a boring world would that be.
Oh sure, why not put out a scene diskmag that, among other things, has an interview with Kanye West about his love for Hitler, a manual "How to lure kids into a van", and an article called "How to best blow yourself up for Allah"?
If you don’t like it - just skip those parts. The mag could still be cool, with some solid pixel art. I mean, everyone’s got their own opinions and political views, right?
But hey, better get rid of those Ukrainian flag colors on Pouet! Apparently, russian sceners start shaking and break out in hives the moment they see anything blue and yellow!
lvd, no. There is a huge difference between soldiers and reporters. Soldiers use weapons, and in our case Putin's fans use lies as weapons. Whereas reporters use the truth to inform the World.
@random: politics in old scene mags was mostly teenagers being edgy. here, we have grown up men cheering for a war of aggression against another country. do you really think this is just fine and we should focus on interface, coding articles, etc.? i am a bit baffled to read this from you, of all people.
@Himik's: Успокойся, болезный, все прекрасно все понимают, а кто не понимает, тому другие объясняют... Очень живописный тред, никто ничего не забудет. Sorry, back to English, I just had to get back at this moron who is gleeing about the foreign "faggots" supposedly not understanding anything he writes...
@Himik's: Успокойся, болезный, все прекрасно все понимают, а кто не понимает, тому другие объясняют... Очень живописный тред, никто ничего не забудет. Sorry, back to English, I just had to get back at this moron who is gleeing about the foreign "faggots" supposedly not understanding anything he writes...
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What's wrong with having different opinions? Is it necessary for everyone to be cut from the same cloth?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Nazi_bar
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What a boring world would that be.
I like my world without war, genocide, rape, torture, murder, abduction of children and so on. I like my world without the incidents like at Bucha, or the theater at Mariupol, or countless other atrocities Russia has committed. If you disagree, go choke on novichok or jump on a mine.
Manwe
The only problem here is that you will never know whether it is a 'reporter always telling truth' or 'soldier always lying'.
Do you really believe that something is purely black-or-white, i.e. there's always truth from one side and always lie from the other? If so, it is just childish pov.
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Whereas reporters use the truth to inform the World.
The only problem here is that you will never know whether it is a 'reporter always telling truth' or 'soldier always lying'.
Do you really believe that something is purely black-or-white, i.e. there's always truth from one side and always lie from the other? If so, it is just childish pov.
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countless other atrocities Russia has committed
Of course an army usually commits atrocities. The only question, how in all your magical world it doesn't happen with the other side's army? Once the picture drawn by someone gets too black-or-white, it becomes highly likely (haha) that it's just a propaganda of one side, no matter whether that side belongs to "R" or to "U".
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Of course an army usually commits atrocities. The only question, how in all your magical world it doesn't happen with the other side's army?
It usually doesn't happen if the armies stay within the boundaries of their own country. Your country is particularly bad in this regard and it's no wonder why all your neighbours ran as far as they could from your Russkiy Mir the moment they had a chance.
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It usually doesn't happen if the armies stay within the boundaries of their own country.
Nice that you don't object to me directly, maybe it means you see some sensibleness in my words.
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Your country
Now let's start with defining which country is "mine" (or "yours") and how it should be determined.
@random: an apple pie with shit inside is still an apple pie with shit inside.
also, fuck putin and his war crimes for vulgar land grabbing
also, fuck putin and his war crimes for vulgar land grabbing
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lvd wrote:
Do you really believe that something is purely black-or-white, i.e. there's always truth from one side and always lie from the other? If so, it is just childish pov.
Oh wow, here we go again with the classic 'it's not all black and white' talk. But come on, there are some plain, undeniable facts:
- Putin gave the green light to invade a neighboring country that posed zero threat to Russia, literally none. I mean, Russia still has the full Soviet nuclear arsenal (including the part Ukraine handed over after the USSR fell apart, based on security guarantees and promises to respect its borders).
- Because of Russia’s actions, dozens of cities and hundreds of villages have been wiped out. Thousands of civilians dead. Lives ruined.
- Putin could stop this war anytime he wants. Ukraine’s not about to chase retreating troops all the way to Moscow. They don’t want anyone else’s land.
- But Putin doesn’t want to stop. He’s clearly enjoying himself. Dude looks cheerful, energetic, not even a hint of regret on his face.
And you’re seriously saying 'it’s complicated'? What exactly is complicated? Why all the constant dancing around? Just be honest: yeah, we want to invade countries, we love spreading fear, it makes us feel powerful, gives us a huge ego boost and a hard-on. At least some of the so-called 'heroes' from the neo-nazi "Rusich" unit say it openly. But you guys? You just keep mumbling and acting like this is some big philosophical debate.
Here’s an example of a Russian war hero fighting for the 'Russian World' by killing Ukrainians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexey_Milchakov
So, should we try to find some shades of gray here? Huh?
Just collecting my free, no-brainer glöp.
Hate propaganda and advocacy of violence. I don't know if it's the editorial line of the diskmag or what the hell.
Glöp!
Glöp!
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@random: an apple pie with shit inside is still an apple pie with shit inside.
also, fuck putin and his war crimes for vulgar land grabbing
Mali, you convinced me.
It seems very competently put together, like the code, graphics and music is fine, but the content itself is made of pure shit.
Sorta like how a demo can be technically well put together, but actually does not stand out at all art wise.
shuran33, I have no hatred for ordinary people. I only hate lies.
You lie because you think it's worth it. You think everybody lies, so you do.
Siberian, there are many intelligent people among Russian sceners. They understand that Putin started this criminal war, and the only proper way to stop the war is to stop Putin. And bring him back.
- When Vinnny say there is no fascism in Russia – it's s a lie (read definition of faschism).
- When you say SVO (special military operation) – it's a lie (read the definition of a military operation, this isn't one, this is a real war).
- When Frog gives thumb up to the intro with Putin portraits and ignores the intro with Navalny portrait, saying he is not involved in politics – it's a lie.
- When authors of this emag say they want peace – it's a lie (they want defeat of Ukraine, not restoring Ukraine's borders).
- When you all say the Scene is not a place for politics – it's a lie (you're spreading pro-Putin political messages).
- When you say you don't care about Putin – it's a lie (every time there's talk of impeaching Putin you exclaim ‘we don't need revolutions’).
You lie because you think it's worth it. You think everybody lies, so you do.
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But hey, better get rid of those Ukrainian flag colors on Pouet! Apparently, russian sceners start shaking and break out in hives the moment they see anything blue and yellow!
Siberian, there are many intelligent people among Russian sceners. They understand that Putin started this criminal war, and the only proper way to stop the war is to stop Putin. And bring him back.
I don't see a single sight of Russophobia here in comments. European and Russian sceners think and talk alike.
I only see dislike of fools and fascists. From both - European and Russians. Unfortunately, this time the fascists are represented by some Russians. Actually, there are fascists and misanthropists in every country. But they don't show themselves off.
Our fools do. The Internet remembers everything.
I only see dislike of fools and fascists. From both - European and Russians. Unfortunately, this time the fascists are represented by some Russians. Actually, there are fascists and misanthropists in every country. But they don't show themselves off.
Our fools do. The Internet remembers everything.
Manwe Throwing political mud is your favorite thing to do. Anywhere, anything, anytime, the main thing is to shit on Putin. Navalny trololo... Take your pills.
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Anywhere, anything, anytime, the main thing is to shit on Putin.
and Putin’s like:
Who needs this? Who thought releasing this was a good idea?
The demoscene is an international community whose members from the get-go adopted handles instead of culture-specific real names, thus providing a layer of abstraction above the world's divisions. Perhaps more by happenstance than by design, but this practice, not unlike the practice of medieval scientists adopting Latin nicknames and Latin as a universal language, is a really nice feature of this community that for me has always been its strength.
Please do not bring real life into this. On the scene, your nationality, gender etc DOES NOT MATTER - you're a scener. To rephrase the famous words from an old book: "there is neither Jew nor Gentile, nor is there male and female, for you are all one on the scene".
Down with this shit.
The demoscene is an international community whose members from the get-go adopted handles instead of culture-specific real names, thus providing a layer of abstraction above the world's divisions. Perhaps more by happenstance than by design, but this practice, not unlike the practice of medieval scientists adopting Latin nicknames and Latin as a universal language, is a really nice feature of this community that for me has always been its strength.
Please do not bring real life into this. On the scene, your nationality, gender etc DOES NOT MATTER - you're a scener. To rephrase the famous words from an old book: "there is neither Jew nor Gentile, nor is there male and female, for you are all one on the scene".
Down with this shit.
Siberian
In those facts you've already spread the "P"-word so many times that anyone not involved might think you're doing negative PR for whatever is denoted by that word. And negative PR is still PR.
I don't give a f*ck what you should do. I only say that *everything* is black.
Every side is doing complete shit and atrocities. No matter who've started it, simply because that fact can't be, not to the smallest extent, any kind of justification for any atrocities that are happening now or have happened recently. Of course, if we take as the supreme value the pricelessness of the human life.
However if there are another considerations that are perceived to be more important, then yes, it might matter a lot who've started what for people with different mindsets.
Just be clear -- do you want to put what I've never meant and never expressed in my mouth as if I really said that? Or otherwise who are those 'we' in your speech? Might I as well hypothesize that now you've just said that every Russian person wants that?
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there are some plain, undeniable facts:
In those facts you've already spread the "P"-word so many times that anyone not involved might think you're doing negative PR for whatever is denoted by that word. And negative PR is still PR.
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So, should we try to find some shades of gray here? Huh?
I don't give a f*ck what you should do. I only say that *everything* is black.
Every side is doing complete shit and atrocities. No matter who've started it, simply because that fact can't be, not to the smallest extent, any kind of justification for any atrocities that are happening now or have happened recently. Of course, if we take as the supreme value the pricelessness of the human life.
However if there are another considerations that are perceived to be more important, then yes, it might matter a lot who've started what for people with different mindsets.
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Just be honest: yeah, we want to invade countries
Just be clear -- do you want to put what I've never meant and never expressed in my mouth as if I really said that? Or otherwise who are those 'we' in your speech? Might I as well hypothesize that now you've just said that every Russian person wants that?
Manwe
Am I right to conclude that now you accuse someone of lying simply because he or she dared to thumb up/down some prods according to his/her liking which happened not to coincide with yours?
And how do you think then? I think that everybody lies (when it's up to politics or to politicians), and you?
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When Frog gives thumb up to the intro with Putin portraits and ignores the intro with Navalny portrait
Am I right to conclude that now you accuse someone of lying simply because he or she dared to thumb up/down some prods according to his/her liking which happened not to coincide with yours?
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You think everybody lies
And how do you think then? I think that everybody lies (when it's up to politics or to politicians), and you?
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No matter who've started it
Wow... What do you mean "no matter who've started'? Of course it matters. Motives matter too: who is defending their country from an aggressor, and who is continuing a war of conquest.
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who are those 'we' in your speech?
Everyone who justifies the invasion and Putin, it doesn't matter where you are: in Russia, or like the author of this diskmag, in Estonia
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every Russian person wants that?
Not all russians. I’m russian myself. But this thread clearly shows that the proportion of sane russians is very small compared to the imperialists, putinoids, and just goofballs.
lvd, you said an aggressor and a victim both make terrible things. Please, stop victim-blaming, it's awkward in XXI century.
And you missed my point: the problem with voting is not about likes and dislikes. The problem is in the comment 'I don't care about politic', if a person only votes for specific political messages.
Siberian, he proportion of sane russians is very large, even here in comments.
And you missed my point: the problem with voting is not about likes and dislikes. The problem is in the comment 'I don't care about politic', if a person only votes for specific political messages.
Siberian, he proportion of sane russians is very large, even here in comments.
The fact that this prod caused the creation of a transphobia tag onto demozoo says enough.
Sucks in many ways, anti-Ukraine, anti-trans, anti-gay etc.
And no, I won't tarnish a real Spectrum with this. It does look the text output gets confused whether to render text blue or black, if you go backwards and forwards in a few select places.
SLAVA UKRAINI
And no, I won't tarnish a real Spectrum with this. It does look the text output gets confused whether to render text blue or black, if you go backwards and forwards in a few select places.
SLAVA UKRAINI
Fuck you from Kharkiv, the home city of one of the greatest speccy groups of all time, Code Busters. City, which is being bombed more or less on a daily basis just from across the border by "the brotherly nation". I am sure it's very "necessary" as you put it, in essence just because you unloved imperialist cunts cannot take a rejection. Noone wants you here or to do anything with you, is that so hard to understand?
A piece of cynical, manipulative trolling—authoritarian apologetics wrapped in anti-globalist, anti-neoliberal whataboutism and none-sidesism. By trashing one system you pretend we must sanctify the other, a false dichotomy that lets you pose as the lone “adult” who sees the harsh truth. It’s repugnant.
Absolute fucking piece of garbage. And i'm not talking just about the diskmag.
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