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Winnerdemo by Metalvotze [web] & apocalypse inc [web]
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release date : april 2004
release party : Breakpoint 2004
compo : pc demo
ranked : 1st
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popularity : 78%
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alltime top: #3205
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Who can blame Metalvotze for exploiting the lamer population at BP? Maybe next year The Fearmoths will win.

As for the demo, it's cliched, childish, simplistic, inane and aptly represents all those people who voted for it.
sucks added on the 2004-04-14 18:19:33 by Wade Wade
It was funny... as a demo, its shit, but it made me laugh plenty, so i guess it should have the thumb.
rulez added on the 2004-04-14 18:20:13 by psonice psonice
I see a heated discussion cummin... ;)

(I comment on all this later...)
added on the 2004-04-14 18:21:57 by tomaes tomaes
(waiting for pissed of non-bp attenders =)
added on the 2004-04-14 18:24:08 by dalezr dalezr
They have humour, which can beat no humour.
sucks added on the 2004-04-15 22:27:08 by PinZa PinZa
Who can blame Metalvotze for exploiting the lamer population at BP?

Oh. So mister I-can't-lift-up-my-ass-to-get-to-a-party did a lot to change that didn't he?
added on the 2004-04-15 22:39:27 by Gargaj Gargaj
We have deziners /
Wich can beat your deziners

We have colors /
Wich can beat your colors

And so on... Damn you =)
rulez added on the 2004-04-15 22:41:02 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
argh.. this was a bit disappointing.. even though they rap about who has the biggest penis and such loveable poetry. Nice that stuff is synched to what the mc is talking about though..
sucks added on the 2004-04-15 22:49:29 by loaderror loaderror
really lame, nothing funny, no talent, nothing.
sucks added on the 2004-04-15 22:53:48 by keops keops
you understand nothing!
rulez added on the 2004-04-15 22:57:49 by Fzool Fzool
Yes, it's sad that Breakpoints pc demo compo only had avarage productions. I also would like to see something different as #1. But well, actually there wasn't anything better in the compo, so the Metalvotze guys deserved it.

We have computers...
rulez added on the 2004-04-15 22:59:39 by scamp scamp
Fully agree to Fzool.
This is the ultimative Fressepissen.
rulez added on the 2004-04-15 23:00:42 by René Madenmann René Madenmann
scamp.. did you remember to see the compo? i can name at LEAST 3 demos better than this piece of shit
sucks added on the 2004-04-15 23:02:16 by leijaa leijaa
Maybe too many people waited for a second fr-025...
That is correct, I dont understand how a german joke demo can win at a german demoparty :)
sucks added on the 2004-04-15 23:03:36 by blackd_wd blackd_wd
The demo had some funny parts and it probably deserved to win as all other demos were boring and unimaginative.

But what the heck, on pouet I can vote on an absolute scale: Thumb down..

sucks added on the 2004-04-15 23:07:08 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
@leia: 3 better productions? oh yeah. flying, rotating cubes for the masses. this demo is the answer for all those wannbe art-demos released at the pc-demo competition. thank you.
added on the 2004-04-15 23:07:11 by Fzool Fzool
I can't tell if i like it or not.
Sometimes this sometimes that.
German lyrics sound a bit annoying for me :D
added on the 2004-04-15 23:09:25 by sampi sampi
this is like ISO winning assemblies
sucks added on the 2004-04-15 23:12:31 by stonda stonda
leia: Well, actually I was busy organizing some shit during the pc demo compo, so I was unable to fully watch everything. But honestly: Since that compo I've got the "we have computers.." melody in my head, while I hardly can remember any other pc demos anymore, so this thing kinda worked for me it seems.

Let's hope there will be more competition pc demo-wise at Breakpoint 2005.
added on the 2004-04-15 23:15:17 by scamp scamp
Didn't make me laugh
sucks added on the 2004-04-15 23:25:10 by Pete Pete
a bit funny, but didnt diserve to win. not at all
sucks added on the 2004-04-15 23:30:13 by Duckers Duckers
"We have computers.."
I find it really hard to get this line out of my head.
added on the 2004-04-15 23:38:20 by Shagma Shagma
not funny, not cool...it's crap!
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 00:04:33 by Dalton Dalton
Rules. Nothing more to say. The crowd it too bored to see yet another rotating cube and 3D tunnle whatever demo.
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 00:28:49 by freeze freeze
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 00:29:40 by dipswitch dipswitch
Thumbup for a good laugh, didn't deserve to win though. That said bp prods this year weren't exactly great, and i wasn't there.

"We have computers, which can beat your computers" =D
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 00:29:52 by LordScott™ LordScott™
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 00:45:53 by stm stm
I can see why this won, considering how different this is from the other, not really outstanding PC-demo-entries... The idea in itself is probably original, but it lacks quite a lot on the technical side.
added on the 2004-04-16 01:02:44 by mjz mjz
it's also in german, which, *surprise* appeals to germans!

I was a bit surprised about this winning (hoped mfx/kewlers wouldget away with it), but hey... if I got a nickel for every time voting fucked up the results...
added on the 2004-04-16 01:05:28 by Shifter Shifter
worst demo ever.
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 01:05:37 by tyfighter tyfighter
worst demo ever.
added on the 2004-04-16 01:05:49 by tyfighter tyfighter
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 01:07:03 by spengler spengler
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 01:11:00 by lithis lithis
long, boring, ugly and in german only. An extra thumb down for winning the compo.
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 01:13:49 by Psycho Psycho
discouraging.. thought bp had potential, but instead this just proves that sceners are dorks and wankers still living in their old (geeky) glory days.
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 02:03:46 by sylphin sylphin
useless and worth no money, rules.
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 02:17:56 by aser aser
"this just proves that sceners are dorks and wankers still living in their old (geeky) glory days."

I think Sylphin hits the target there. I mean, it's hardly what one would call sophisticated humour is it? Geek humour perhaps?

Gargaj: Fair point, but see Sylphin's comment. :)
added on the 2004-04-16 02:34:03 by Wade Wade
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 04:16:31 by mrdoob mrdoob
Awful, offensive, low quality, evil and disgusting.
How did this win? I saw better 64k demos...
This beats 'Candytron' as the most offensive demo I've seen by a LONG shot.
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 04:19:49 by crusader crusader
won't vote till i get to understand the german lyrics... should NOT have won BP, but i won't be voting its rank here... someone gimme a translation =)
added on the 2004-04-16 04:39:50 by Jcl Jcl
Lol. Actually you just have to open the file called "lyrics_en.nfo" ;)
added on the 2004-04-16 04:52:11 by mjz mjz
this really sucks...
tho that we have computers thingie is cool, but otherwise the lyrics suck too...
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 07:40:34 by FooLman FooLman
it was funny in compo in some strange way, but i can't understand the 1st place... enough talked about it, so i'll blame voters (including me, forgot to vote anything because i was drunk)
added on the 2004-04-16 07:51:44 by shadez shadez
the first time i saw it, it made me laugh a little. the second time i saw it, it made me cry a lot...
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 07:57:07 by uncle-x uncle-x
This 1st place is representative of massive boredom by "always the same demos each year"... Demomakers, wake up ! Show your creative potential !
added on the 2004-04-16 07:57:15 by willbe willbe
crusader: Are you american? What is offensive about candytron?
added on the 2004-04-16 07:59:22 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
This is teenie crap. I think I am too old for the scene now.
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 08:30:01 by phred phred
Fuckings to Metalvotze for making such a immature demo, and even bigger fuckings to all the immature lamers that voted for it.
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 08:54:09 by kurli kurli
Crusader: Candytron is offensive ? lol are you normal ? this is the sweetest demo i've ever seen :p
added on the 2004-04-16 09:10:59 by Zest Zest
Sigh.. so now the "make a crappy 'fun' demo that appeals to the drunken locals at the party" has reached Breakpoint aswell.
While I agree that the democompo wasn't top notch, there were a whole bunch of other entries that were better.
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 09:21:14 by Sdw Sdw
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 09:26:36 by xeNusion xeNusion
jeez, all hell breaks loose now ;)
i for myself found it the only demo really entertaining at the party, and because demos are in essence about entertaining it got my vote too
i can see how all you 1337 guys are really pissed because your hard work went down the drain, but see it this way: next time do a technically excellent demo that is _entertaining_
we have computers which can beat your computers. it will take a long while getting this is out of my head...
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 09:37:46 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
we have computers which can beat your computers. it will take a long while getting this is out of my head
Yeah, along with "AMIGA!" and "MARRY ME!"...
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 09:41:26 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
first place ? why not ? it is full of freshness and seems to have clear ideas about the scene and its evolution (from what i can understand), and doing such synchro demo is always lots of work. To my mind, moppy should have get 1st and this one second.
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 09:49:46 by krabob krabob
Didn't deserve first place at all.

A major thumb up tho. For the fun I had at the party, for your attitide, and for the fact that I'll beat the living crap out of you next time because I also can't get that frickin' "we have computers..." out of my head :)
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 10:20:22 by kb_ kb_
All guys who complain now, read the english lyrics that come along with the demo. Hahahaha, it is exactly about what we sing in the song. So that is scene, demos that beat others demos, and all that fights with small dicks among the sceneres when they got pissed because they didn't win.
Unfair or not, you got to eat this :-) I've gotta say the now arising disucssion is even more entertaining than doing that demo, it just shows that we hit something hurting deep inside. Not our primary intention, but fun though, haha.
So what is unmature? Being pissed because of seeing an ascii-dick? Or being mature and cool enough to take this with a smile :-) Sexual stuff is present in your all days laife, every evening when you lil wankers lay in your bed and wank on some cheap pr0ns you leeched at this BP ;-)
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 10:29:10 by bitbreaker bitbreaker
hehehe. metalvotze did it.... become famous for shit, do the unexpected thing and win the compo. there were a lot of better demos (synthetic dentiforms for example) that deserved a higher rank. anyway, metalvotze - surprised the crowd and they voted for it.

thumb up!
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 10:31:48 by prost prost
Shoot yourselves
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 10:37:26 by asasel asasel

(ps, you are all wankers :D)
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 10:38:42 by okkie okkie
ach geht doch heim
wie konnte dieser scheissdreck gewinnen?
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 11:06:06 by elkmoose elkmoose
it just shows that we hit something hurting deep inside
oh man.. you think you came to educate..?
added on the 2004-04-16 11:07:00 by phred phred
i dont know if i hate metalvotze more after winning til demo compo, or if i just lost a lot of my respect for BP for being the coolest scene party ever.

I guess it would be metalvotze for using this demo at BP and not fx. TP2004 .. i would fit in there
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 11:07:15 by dwarf dwarf
Excellent production. It's ugly, it's irritating, it features low-level German humor and most importantly, it wins! Excellent stuff I'd say, proving a point that had to be proven for a long time.
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 11:09:09 by superplek superplek
Only decent things in this demo:

1 the precalc chip

2 the C64 :)

3 the 6851 inside the C64

At least i actually semi enjoyed watching this unlike x-mix 2004 which i had to chain my arm to the desk to stop it from pressing the esc key.
added on the 2004-04-16 11:12:53 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
The first time, i laughed ... then when i saw it came first at BP, i praised all gods, erased it from my HD ...
So a piggy for the mixed about that ...
added on the 2004-04-16 11:18:23 by kohai kohai
Not a winner demo for me
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 12:01:08 by reality3D reality3D
beside´s moppi´s it was the only demo i watched more than one time. so what can i say. :) it was even more clever as a joke production than those danish "joke" productions in danish language (which appeared on the last TP´s).

i would only like to see better REAL DEMOS next time from the other groups. the pc demo compo was too weak in general.
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 12:01:51 by jazz jazz
VOZ surprised the audience, they voted for it and there's nothing more to say than: The winner is the winner is the winner.

Overall there were better entries, but nevertheless congrats to Bitbreaker and Co.
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 12:12:31 by Raven^NCE Raven^NCE
hahaha damn.
I don't like that Demo quite much. Yet, I don't complain about it being first. xD
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 12:13:55 by elend elend
fuckings too all who care about offensive demos... uptight or what??
funny demo indeed,but didn't deserves the 1st place..
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 12:18:02 by v3nom v3nom
there were alot better, but on the whole bp demos were just average this year...
added on the 2004-04-16 12:22:52 by v3nom v3nom

Important announcement: I am converted into a Metalvotze fan now. Gonna download and watch all their old dirty C64 basic demos again :)
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 12:36:34 by Optimus Optimus
@phred: Hahahahahaha, show up on the next party and have a beer with us, nothing more :-) There more all you guys get upset the more this dmeo wins a second time :-)
Scene awards 2004: The most upsetting demo: Winnerdemo, hahahahahah
This is the ONLY ONE demo i saved from the bp04's pc demo-compo. Not a good thing that a simple joke-demo can win a party (which is almost the biggest in the line). Other demos are bellow of any critism, nothing to say about them. It's the best (pain to say that) entry in the compo.

Other way, i like it, it's funny and weird enough for a thumb up !
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 13:03:36 by AbcuG! AbcuG!
no, not a winner demo, imho
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 13:16:40 by shash shash
maybe they should've called it "Wienerdemo" ;)
I must say the music is very cool, but really, as a demo it is plain crap..
added on the 2004-04-16 13:45:55 by ravity ravity
It's really a looser demo, but I love it! Brave kids!
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 13:46:27 by daddyvx daddyvx
ok, technical not really a "winner demo", but it was fun watching and i shouldn't complain since i was involved in "staatsfreund nummer eins". thumbs up for making me laugh :)
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 14:03:59 by gg|rhg gg|rhg

these sceners should be drug out into the street and shot. who freaking cares about your dick!
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 14:28:38 by praetor_alpha praetor_alpha
Well, i was thinking "Thank you Metalvotze, for saving me from falling asleep during the PC-Democompo".
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 14:39:28 by wolle^drg wolle^drg
Bugga bugga bo.. bugs
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 14:51:38 by Gtyrte Gtyrte
drug or drag? Hahahaha!!! The influence and discussions this unpredictable win had on the scene is preety interesting..
added on the 2004-04-16 15:03:15 by Optimus Optimus
"Da wächst der Schaft"
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 15:13:46 by Paralax Paralax
urrr, german crap :P this demo was very votze!
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 16:03:59 by post malone post malone
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 17:05:10 by emoon emoon
this one kicked some mighty asses!
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 17:09:11 by chromag chromag
Piece of crap :(
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 17:20:01 by breez breez
Awfull and horrible crap.... if even you can speak german it is ordinary fun-like crap too.... Shame on Breakpoint jury
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 18:01:18 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
there was no real jury... the attenders were the jury, man
added on the 2004-04-16 18:03:26 by v3nom v3nom
it's very bad prod, teenagers strikes again
shame on voters, shame on jury, jury = lamers !
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 18:12:35 by Zone (leZone) Zone (leZone)
I respect anyone who can win a large compo with this pile of shit!
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 18:24:51 by Korvkiosken Korvkiosken
bwahahaaa. well. lame boring nerdy 3d effect shows don't always cut it on pc. metalvotze, thanks for waking up the scene. (and myself at bp)
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 18:25:30 by Krill Krill
To put it simple: This won the competition because it was one of 2 or 3 original and interesting demos out of over twenty totally boring flyby-shows in the PC demo compo.
The rap can only be appreciated if you know german - the english translation just doesnt cut it ;)

Resume: Schwanzlänge 3 Meter 60!
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 18:34:55 by Spin Spin
fuck. i rarely comment this kind of prod but
shit number#1. YOU ALL WHO VOTED THIS
this demo sucks. metalvotze is like when
"tAAt-on-puberty". this is really really horrible
and shitty demo. but DONT COMPLAIN
and everyone who downvotes this is hypocritic, VOTE DIFFERENT AT PARTY and this shit wont win. and wasnt bp orgas suppose disqualify all shitty and annoying stuff..
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 18:40:22 by uns3en_ uns3en_
I couldn't really care less what position this reached, it would suck anyway. Next time at least make the rap in English :)
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 18:42:08 by break break
Most entertaining PC-demo at BP04. Looking forward to the discussions :)
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 18:45:21 by ninjadrm ninjadrm
No worries, most of us can _really_ need the money, just imagine taht some even can't afford the entry and start begging in front of the entrance, or like bitch who can't pay his electricity bill ;-) Also mention our groupsize, it carried the expenses for breakpoint, nothing more. If you really think demomaking is all just about money, then i can just say: put your finger up your smelly arse for such a poor comment and attitude :-)
Get a real job!
added on the 2004-04-16 20:09:47 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
Thank you for reminding me how happy I am with my real life, bunch of freaks :)
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 20:18:42 by ithaqua ithaqua
stelthz: They wouldn't be Metalvotze if they did some real work, hahaha... "Punks united", what else can i say...
added on the 2004-04-16 20:26:48 by nitro2 nitro2
canonball & zone & whoever: it can't be THAT hard to get that breakpoint does not have jury-based voting, but public voting. With 900 sceners present, this "jury" probably represents the biggest part of the active demo scene. So what is all this bullshit about the votes being unfair etc? What exactly is unfair about democracy and public voting?

Face the reality: The majority of voters at Breakpoint liked this production. This gives me the following conclusions:

1.) The pouet trolls that did not even attend breakpoint should shut the fuck up. If you don't even visit one of the most important demo partys, you are not part of the scene and should not comment at all. Go away. :)

2.) See kb's comment - every visitor of Breakpoint had the ability to vote. If you did not vote and now are unhappy with the results, then shut the fuck up. It is YOUR fault!

3.) All this is not bad. And it's neither the end of the scene nor anything near that. After Breakpoint 2003 people thought the Amiga scene was dead, as the Amiga contributions were rather poor. And now look what happened this year. So what, next year probably the pc demo releases will rock again.

4.) And a note for people blaming breakpoint for the pc demo compo: No, we did not put up a rule saying "Please only submit boring stuff to the pc demo compo". And no, it's not the organizers fault (unless you blame Farbrausch for being busy organizing BP (and the 96k game) instead of submitting a demo).

Get over it.
added on the 2004-04-16 20:58:06 by scamp scamp
The highpoint of this demo was the verse in the song, besides that i think its rather poor, and i really don`t like "childish scenes" in demos. But that`s enough to get many peoples attention i guess.
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 21:12:41 by wain_ wain_
Yes, it is crap - but also much more entertaining than most other joke demos existing. Even when I watched it at home again I considered it still funny - not to mention the atmosphere there was during the compo. Noch ein Meter dazu!
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 21:49:27 by T$ T$
next year remember to vote metalvotze
again.. so they can have more booze and
expensive graphic cards.. who cares about
those anyways...
added on the 2004-04-16 21:50:14 by uns3en_ uns3en_
Now, all of this makes VERY little sense unless you understand the german lyrics AND know metalvotze and their role in the c64 scene.
Secondly, it has the most haunting chorus line ever heard in a demo soundtrack. Prepare for millions of references and parodies in future productions.
Thirdly, all of you are SO predictable. :)
Fourthly, Metalvotze really had a walk-over with this demo, also thanks to the overall mediocrity of this years demo compo (or was it just the high expectations?)
Fifthly, it won. Damn. Get over it.
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 22:34:23 by tomaes tomaes
Junk, but funny junk :)
added on the 2004-04-16 22:43:53 by stylus stylus
I could not get to Breakpoint this year, but after this I question if it worths being there. It's not the fault of Metalvotze or Ainc, but the voters are to blamed. You may be untalented, you may have bad humor, but then you should not win.

What makes a good demo? Isn't it excellence? This demo has no code, no art -- then, is this demo excellent in humor at least? I know my answer. If the BP audience calls this a good demo (or even a winner demo), then BP is not the scene where I belong to. Breakpoint calls itself a 'no gamers' party, but who cares whether gamers or drunken wankers spoil the fun. Gamers don't ruin the compos, actually.

After this demo and most other releases, I doubt if Breakpoint is a major demoparty at all.
sucks added on the 2004-04-16 23:15:19 by Ger Ger
hehehe, i am very amused bout all this discussion, this farly exceeds my expectations :)
rulez added on the 2004-04-16 23:57:23 by nitro2 nitro2
Face it - BP is a drinking compo for oldschoolers.
added on the 2004-04-17 00:05:20 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
"If you don't even visit one of the most important demo partys, you are not part of the scene and should not comment at all"

Really? You know what........ (paragraph deleted, too harsh)

For me, it seems if it's ascii-wanking to 16color chicks is all it takes to win "one of the most important demoparties", then why would anyone make an effort to do something REALLY good.

Face it scamp, it was mainly already-too-drunk mainly-german-speaking people who voted it first. And the 20+ (or so) demos were partly your fault - nothing prevents you to use preselection. (should have learnt from mekka, remember?) Don't tell me "we did expect only 5-6 demos", after all, this is "one of the most important demoparties".

Hope you were kidding.

No thumb down, because as a joke production (i guess it was never meant to be anything else), it's pretty good :-)
added on the 2004-04-17 02:51:19 by reptile reptile
I liked the song and the attitude. Therefore thumbs up.

However, I didn't like to see it beating productions that really deserved to win. But still - why blame the demo if the audience is stupid? :)
rulez added on the 2004-04-17 09:22:48 by viznut/pwp viznut/pwp
This looks like the hysteria back in the old days when Budbrain won a competition with a certain megademo beating Crionics and all the other megastars. However, I doubt that "Winnerdemo" will ever become a classic like the Budbrain megademo.
added on the 2004-04-17 10:21:01 by Corial Corial
After we sold the package of this very expensive ATI-graphics-card on ebay, we bought our personal Porsche yesterday... Thanks voters!
Guys, the next item we ever win will be rammed into your envious asses. Is it really so hard to overcome that we won soem bucks and a graphics card? We even didn't keep the card, we gave it to nitro, as he desrved that (And we have no use for it anyway) Nice to soo how mature you are, but mentioning all the way, how childissh our production was :-)
To make you even more upsaet, first of all there wer no titts and wanking penis at all, but a still logo for quiet a long period that would have looked rather boring. So i thought what would upset people most, ahh of course a bad taste ascii wanking penis, and here we go, now it is implemented and it hit the spot, hahahaha It was so obviosu that you will focus on such cheap details and forgetting about all the other things.
Even if there would be preselection, be sure we'd manage to sneak in, just to present you another penis, don't ever think you'd get rid of the pain in the ass by censoring us :-) There are many ways to be explizit, hahahahahaha
Ahhh yeah, btw. just have a look at this animated fruitlogo my handle has in here, so just another penis for you folx ;-) And some of you might even discover one between their legs while pissing or having a shower. It's also a penis, just maybe too small :-)
I don|t like it, but who cares?
sucks added on the 2004-04-17 11:02:52 by nelius nelius
@ scamp:
- No jury? i thinked it was a fucking jury, i hate jurys, so ok, i respect the audience votes, they wanted this prod win, it's done.
- Send me money and i'll come, it's not easy to find 200 euros to come to a party when you take care about bread price every day!

@BP orgas:
Next time, to have better than medium prods, allow internet submissions of prods!
Zone, sometimes you are so ignorant and misinformed that it hurts. Demo submissions were allowed. And how you got the jury idea is beyond me too.
added on the 2004-04-17 12:12:17 by tomaes tomaes
gem: What do the compo releases/results have to do with the fun you might had there? I had even fun at 0A000h with only 2 releases per compo! (Smaller parties have a great atmosphere! This was my favoritest party experience after BP really!)

Why should the results define if the scene at BP (a big part of the whole scene) is the one you belong? I discover that every scener has diferrent reasons for being here, others are drunkards, other are serious coders, hardcore or having a job, being either fun of art, noise or oldschool demos, others are lamers, others love to have fun by annoying the serious sceners, others have a life and others don't :). What I loved at BP is that I could get along with every kind of weird people. Perhaps some of them are not my type, not the part of the scene I belong if you want, but I just don't the scene so seriously and accept (even I am happy and laugh about it) the victory of Metalvotze demo. I think that the power of the scene is that: To get along with every weird freak, else you will just feel that some of the people are not of your kind, so the scene is not too..

Ok,. I can't say what I want in few words, perhaps I am lost in some thoughts,. nevertheless it's funny to see some serious sceners here too :)
added on the 2004-04-17 12:34:24 by Optimus Optimus
"For me, it seems if it's ascii-wanking to 16color chicks is all it takes to win "one of the most important demoparties", then why would anyone make an effort to do something REALLY good."

Because people are not doing cool demos just to win the compos. And it wasn't just ASCII wanking and 16bit color chicks ;). Damn! I watched it yesterday and I want to watch it again!!! It has cool funny sync with the lyrics, my favorite part is where it says "Blass mich" (am I writting this well?) and with the sound changing to something cool you get into the C64 =). Great atmosphere!!!
added on the 2004-04-17 12:41:00 by Optimus Optimus
"it was mainly already-too-drunk mainly-german-speaking people who voted it first."

Don't forget the C64 sceners too ;)
added on the 2004-04-17 12:42:03 by Optimus Optimus
I find it interesting how every other poster repeats that this demo is "crap". Care to give reasons?

Granted, the demo doesn't offer innovative code or superb art. But it has one thing that many many demos lack: It's got the flow. It never bores you even for a second. New crazy ideas constantly pop up. If you don't unterstand German or find VOZ-style pubic humor distasteful, it's probably not your cup of tea... but otherwise - well, it's a work of love, that's for sure.

Of course, the best thing of it all is the chorus. Chances are it will stay with the demoscene in all eternity. BTW, did they invent the slogan for this prod or has it popped up somewhere else before?
rulez added on the 2004-04-17 12:54:44 by jazzman jazzman
Thumbs up for proving that public voting on demoparties sucks. Only an idiot would let 1500 drunken, sleepy and stoned sceners vote, and then still believe that the best demo shall win ;-)
rulez added on the 2004-04-17 13:02:47 by sparcus sparcus
breakpoint without metalvotze would be like pouet without optimus - boring :)
this "demo" at least has very memorable moments - the "we have computers..." thingy is probably the best slogan in the history of the demoscene (definitely better than "the code inside" :)) and the c64 model was also great (the whole thing worked for me though i don't even understand german!)

mfx should have won the compo, but their demo probably needs several watching - i'm starting to really enjoy it now, though i didn't like it at first
rulez added on the 2004-04-17 13:11:01 by blala blala
i'm sure this was kind of funny to some people, but come on.. this blows.
sucks added on the 2004-04-17 14:10:00 by gloom gloom
haha, the comments towards bp are hilarious! don't worry scamp, bp is the best demoparty ever imo and a good demoparty is not about productions, but about atmosphere! so sorry to all you poor pathetic losers that couldn't make it. you missed an AWESOME party where this AWESOME demo won!

added on the 2004-04-17 14:33:36 by okkie okkie
i like this one. it's not technically impressive but it's different and it's entertaining.
which should be honored by thumb up :)
rulez added on the 2004-04-17 17:03:37 by Phenomenon Phenomenon

> Face it scamp, it was mainly already-too-
> drunk mainly-german-speaking people who
> voted it first.

And you know that how?

Only 40% of breakpoint visitors were german speaking. If you are right it would mean that every german speaking person voted it #1 and everyone else did not vote at all or something along that lines.

"Face it", neither you nor me knows who voted for what.

> And the 20+ (or so) demos were partly
> your fault - nothing prevents you to use
> preselection. (should have learnt from
> mekka, remember?) Don't tell me "we did
> expect only 5-6 demos", after all, this
> is "one of the most important
> demoparties".

Preselection does not help against low entry quality.

And I highly doubt there is any bigger meaning behind all this. Last year the Amiga compo didn't have any killer releases while the PC demo compo had, this year it was the other way round. And maybe next year the C64 or whatever platform will kick some serious butt. For me that's perfectly fine.

Some people really are much too fanatic about all this.
added on the 2004-04-17 20:33:15 by scamp scamp
"If you don't even visit one of the most important demo partys, you are not part of the scene and should not comment at all. Go away. :)"

Aha. So people who can't afford to go to BP aren't part of the scene. Funny, I thought being part of the scene was about doing creative stuff on computers. But hey, what do I know.

I damn well hope you weren't being serious scamp.

About the demo: Well... It seems we're somehow supposed to be intimidated by ugly effects and infantile graphics and sound. Sorry, I'm not buying that.
Music and rap performance was decent though.

Does it really matter if it won? This is what happens at parties, get used to it.
sucks added on the 2004-04-17 20:38:51 by thorsten thorsten
The slogan came up while i and fieserWolf were creating rhimes together on irc. No idea if it was used before. It somehow fitted so well to teh signes that where hold up by the crowd, and also to that guys on the old computer ads. In that moment the real idea was born.
I am really considering to write together some more about the demos intention, as well as about how it was done. Maybe that helps those guys that pathetically whine, just because it contaisn a penis and was actually done by Metalvotze.
Infact there was no penis in it first, but the logo looked quite statically as nothing happens else. So i thought, okay, noone will vote it anyway, and the demoname is another factor to make people clear it is ironic. So why not pissing people completely off and inserting a wanking penis :-)
(seriously, we were just as surprised as many others about the result, but anyway, the impact is funny :-)

Quoting without context isn't nice.

The whole sentence was:

"1.) The pouet trolls that did not even attend breakpoint should shut the fuck up. If you don't even visit one of the most important demo partys, you are not part of the scene and should not comment at all. Go away. :)"

Yes, maybe this was a bit harsh. It wasn't my intention to bash people who were unable to attend breakpoint.

Look at this thread to see stuff like "jury at breakpoint sucked", "this was voted by drunk germans" etc. Obviously people who don't have the most basic clues about voting at demo parties and especially Breakpoint.

Anyway, let me apologize and rephrase:

If you didn't even attend Breakpoint, then stop acting like you have some deep inside knowledge on how/why this demo ranked #1. Get your facts straight before posting bullshit and throwing mud at the party, its organizers and its visitors.

But oh well, whatever I say, some ppl will be trolling anyway, so I'll just stop.
added on the 2004-04-17 22:28:05 by scamp scamp
A demo that annoys/shakes so much people can't be that bad.
rulez added on the 2004-04-17 22:41:33 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
This is for sure not the best PC-Demo i have ever seen but i was very happy to see that this demo won the competition.
All other demos in the competition just look liked thousands demos seen before.
rotating cube, drum and base soundtracks, transparent layer effects, senceless 3d objects and so on.
I think the demo scene should awake and realize what demos have been in the past.
Years ago people voted for demos which showed something new, but today demos are something like music videos, no thanx.
Well done Metalvotze !
added on the 2004-04-17 23:46:21 by aeg aeg
i mean so many ;)
added on the 2004-04-18 00:55:29 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
sucks ass with a vengance.
sucks added on the 2004-04-18 02:39:25 by hornet hornet
this as the winner demo winnerdemo is not good for the scene. :(
sucks added on the 2004-04-18 02:41:51 by Shanethewolf Shanethewolf

Wont go into mathematical analysis of how it happened, i think we didnt need to be at the partyplace the see WHY... it's just very disappointing, hope you see the point. Nothing's wrong with a compo not having state-of-the-art entries, but it's a bit different from having decent prods (like the demo compo), and still winning with.. this.

"Preselection does not help against low entry quality."
It does. That's why it's called "preselection" :) (guess you had one for the musiccompo too, for example)

"Some people really are much too fanatic about all this. "
No not at all :-) No hard feelings against anyone, especially the organizers, or MV, i'm just a bit disappointed and wanted to share my opinion. Actually i think it is you who take it a bit too seriously, i know you're still exhausted, but hey, relax, and congrats for your work! :-)
added on the 2004-04-18 03:11:10 by reptile reptile
ok, i read some comments above, and i nearly don't get it ... we must comment about the demo, no ? bp04 was, i suppose, one of the best demo party again, and i'll like to be present next year.
About the demo: hmm, i can undersand why people found it funny, and why they voted for it. My opinion is: what is funny about saying 30 times dick in a song ? ... maybe i just don't get it. On the technical part, there's nothing which is logical coz it's the aim of the demo. Anyway, i don't like it and I don't think it's funny ...
sucks added on the 2004-04-18 04:23:27 by mRyOuNg mRyOuNg
Yeah that's the only part i can give a thumb up. Kb_ u r right...nobody can take "We have computers which can beat your computers" out of their heads!!!
rulez added on the 2004-04-18 04:30:34 by sybeX sybeX
@ Tomaes :
you're right, website say :
"If you submit something, you have to be present at the party"
and say :
"Submissions via E-mail are only allowed for the demo compos and after further negotiation with the respective organizers."
there is no direct link about this famous 'respective orga', and i'll never negotiate something with orgas before sending a prod by internet, it's stupid! you send or not, why negotiate, negotiate what ?

in fact i'm just disappointed, because i waited the best 2004 prods from this party, and this joke-prod wich win.... (this prod is not so bad, it's ranking is shame, not the prod itself (music is ok for example), i'm not against joke prods or this prod, just against the fact DemoCompo winner must have the best code, music, gfxs of all the showed demos, and probably 400 selfcalled demomakers voted for this one, it's a disrespect of the whole demoscene and other demomakers wich work hard for some months to provide good prods.)
sucks added on the 2004-04-18 13:53:00 by florent florent
I had a pretty good laugh ...
rulez added on the 2004-04-18 13:54:44 by nufan nufan
damn, i had a good laugh reading this thread.. so many whiners around. hahaha.. remember, the whiner and consumer scene is dead.
rulez added on the 2004-04-18 14:04:23 by unlock unlock
Definitely not my style. And I am already beginning to get bored of that 'we have computers' chorus. On the other hand I thought the voice quality (not the lyrics) were done well and I can't downright thumb this down. But there were surely a lot better entries in the compo.
added on the 2004-04-18 14:50:54 by moT moT
"It has been said that democracy is the 'worst' form of Government except all those others that have been tried from time to time."

- Winston Churchill

(damn the song is going in my head)

added on the 2004-04-18 15:06:17 by Preacher Preacher
sucks added on the 2004-04-18 16:54:29 by Sesse Sesse
hehe, the lyrics-outtakes (included as txt-file)alone deserve a thumb up...
added on the 2004-04-18 18:24:14 by chromag chromag
let the thumb speak
sucks added on the 2004-04-18 19:14:49 by _andre _andre
Funny, but not a demo to win a party ...
sucks added on the 2004-04-18 19:58:03 by Astharoth Astharoth
i couldn't care less but fuckings to all germans anyway =)
sucks added on the 2004-04-18 20:30:39 by dodke dodke
German rap is indeed a hilarious thing :) This one has many funny elements (which get even funnier when observed under influence of alcohol etc) but I don't think it deserves a thumb ...neither up or down
added on the 2004-04-18 20:53:04 by Vulture Vulture
nice rap :p
464 onzia!
rulez added on the 2004-04-18 22:08:00 by Buckethead Buckethead
Thumbs up for being 'different' as many others said before.
And I don't think it's extremely bad from the technical side. And also the other demos from BP were not so bad. There was just no real killer demo, that's all. I guess ppl expected too much.
rulez added on the 2004-04-20 00:58:13 by beavis77 beavis77
Excellent music. Most vocal music in demos is just bad mixed, bad sung shit (tho' there are exceptions) but this rocks. And won't go out of my head damnit.
Excellent flow. Slow start, then suprising show of 3d, then getting back into the rythm again. And synced to the music.
Nice c64 model, gfx fitting to the concept, the "money split" could have been shorter, but thats just a minor.
All in all I second AEG - this deserved to win. Besides it was a perfect place to show it in the compo: just when you were bored from the "i wanna be a vj" demos this came along and was just..well...different. The refrain was hummed/ sung/ mumbled for the rest of the compo and the evening. So I guess it stuck in the head where other demos didn't. Now sit down, shut up and ask yourself why is that so (And if you really think it was the ascii dicks then why don't you try releasing some as a demo and watch yourself being last - because it isn't. It's all in the flow/ rythm, baby).
rulez added on the 2004-04-20 11:17:21 by Delax Delax
Not many flashy FX, but very clean overall design.
Quite refreshing between all those 3D players.
rulez added on the 2004-04-20 20:57:05 by anti anti
rulez added on the 2004-04-20 23:12:18 by cyraxx cyraxx
sucks added on the 2004-04-21 00:48:16 by psenough psenough
It's not always about grafix and code, it's sometimes about Schwanzlänge.. Hehe, this demo really ruled in the competition, and after the demo compo ended, I knew this would be the demo I would want to win. Althought I didn't really think it would win after all... Anyways, "We have computers .. that can beat your computers"... I can't get it out of my brain either :))
rulez added on the 2004-04-21 01:13:48 by bartman bartman
argh shit
sucks added on the 2004-04-21 10:33:28 by med med
we have some currywurst, which can beat your currywurst.
rulez added on the 2004-04-22 14:35:27 by sobec sobec
thumb up for the cock-o-meter!
rulez added on the 2004-04-23 15:02:52 by chavez chavez
(calodox should've won)
added on the 2004-04-23 15:03:13 by chavez chavez
(i agree with chavez)
added on the 2004-04-23 15:18:51 by okkie okkie
- entertaining at the party place
- sucks for home-entertainment
- thumbs down
added on the 2004-04-23 15:22:47 by keith303 keith303
sucks added on the 2004-04-23 15:23:22 by keith303 keith303
rulez added on the 2004-04-23 17:58:18 by oldaccount oldaccount
l33t !

better at the party than at home. but i still understand how it won thus I thumb up for the great surprise on the metalzvote members face when they were on the stage. proof that it was just for fun and the audience decided.
rulez added on the 2004-04-23 18:28:29 by oxb oxb
that is strange, fun, good, etc...
rulez added on the 2004-04-23 23:47:31 by sokoban sokoban
metalvotze powah!
rulez added on the 2004-04-24 00:46:11 by Kojote Kojote
well it made me laugh and thats rare from a demo. so ill give it a thumb up for that atleast
rulez added on the 2004-04-24 01:28:16 by pacman pacman
We were laughing like hell while we saw the democompetition and had tears in our eyes when this demo was over and out. Yeah, it's surely a crappy piece of demo, and the MetalVotzen never tried to hide this fact. The demos from f.e. Nuance or Calodox were better for sure - but the rap was kinda cool, at least for germans. Where the fuck is their wilddemo from BP, cannot find it for gods sake! You should watch that first and you'll be able to understand this demo in a more effective way.

Wade:Move your lazy .. (you know what I mean) over to this party instead of complaining about everything and nothing next year.
rulez added on the 2004-04-25 20:10:52 by ghandy ghandy
ok, after watching it at a party, I can get the 'feeling'... but it sucks, so it'll be a piggie :-)
added on the 2004-04-26 00:13:46 by Jcl Jcl
I hereby apologise for not voting at the party
sucks added on the 2004-04-26 00:45:40 by Scali Scali
you should try to code next time ...
sucks added on the 2004-04-26 01:12:25 by Stv Stv
We used the complete engine form teh AINC guys. so no need to code, hahaha, all has been done already by Nitro + Toxie/AINC.
@Ghandy look for L.I.S.A for the real wild. As for teh video wild, hmm no idea where it is, you got the original at the party, hehehe. But i have the whole video and i'll upload it to scene.org asap.
Oh yeah, you just KNEW this demo was going to get all sorts of trolling and inanity at pouet (:
+ the wild is very cool so all of this is just a great joke.
added on the 2004-04-26 21:04:58 by oxb oxb
Guys, get over it. I was half asleep during the compo, my german is certainly not the best in the world, and even I remembered this one afterwards -- it just *stood out* from the other demos, plus the chorus is just waaaay too catchy... :) So yeah, it probably didn't deserve to win, but please don't act like it never happened before that not the technically/whatever best demo won the competition...
rulez added on the 2004-04-28 23:09:28 by edhellon edhellon
simply sucks, i wonder whats wrong with this scene nowadays..
sucks added on the 2004-05-01 19:24:22 by Mr.Slice Mr.Slice
I just hate this demo.
sucks added on the 2004-05-04 08:13:22 by dairos dairos
I half expected my harddrive to be formatted when this demo returned... this didn't really come in #1 did it?
sucks added on the 2004-05-06 01:48:16 by tck42 tck42
tck42: yes it did...
added on the 2004-05-06 09:03:23 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
This is pathetic!
Should be nominated in a wild compo, but winning in the demo category... nooo it's a shame, they can't even code a smooth scroller.
sucks added on the 2004-05-06 17:57:58 by timna timna
Absolutely great lyrics, absolutely poor demo.
Wait a minute - didn't this one compete in the "Demo Compo", not the "Weird Lyrics Compo"?
sucks added on the 2004-05-08 22:09:34 by mizc mizc
dont encourage things like this
sucks added on the 2004-05-09 10:57:16 by hollowman hollowman
@MC[EDC] I'm deeply hurt, hahahaha Fine that it annoys you ;-)
i think thats my first thumb down ever.
sucks added on the 2004-05-13 23:22:47 by blz blz
At last something NEW in the demoscene. How thrilling to find a group who isn't simply trying to fit in with the same effects and pretentious bullshit that everyone half-heartedly strives to pull off these days. Easily comparable to something Melon Dezign might have made, had they been German perverts without mad design skills.
rulez added on the 2004-05-14 23:35:18 by wad_ wad_
the name of the game is inane
added on the 2004-05-14 23:40:15 by Stelthzje Stelthzje

BTW, are you aware of a bug which causes devide-by-zero and crash on slower machines midst in the C64 keyboard scene?
rulez added on the 2004-05-16 15:31:05 by eye eye
Toxie just told me that this is a wellknown bug according to the fmod stuff and some special kind of soundblaster drivers. It worked so far on any machines i tested it on, among that also a athlon 900MHz machine with Geforce 2MX. It even runs in the vmware on my linux box - slideshow though ;-)
My machine which crashes is a JVC mini-Note PC/ MP-XP 3210 (the old classical subnotebook). It has a 650 MHz Celeron ULV CPU. Sound is an on-chip SiS 7018. Graphics is on-ship SiS 630. 128 MB RAM, of which i have 16 shared off to the GFX card. The failure is a floating-point invalid operation (sorry of course not divide by zero), and the sound keeps playing. This error happens independantly of whether DirectSound, noSound or WaveOut is selected. It may just as well be the gfx driver bugging though... I've made a couple of screenshots which i will really soon send to your quality assurance division.
added on the 2004-05-17 22:56:01 by eye eye
don't like eaven the "hip-hop"
sucks added on the 2004-05-17 23:55:47 by freed_ohm freed_ohm
You expect quality?! from us?! :-)
Btw. SiS sucks small dicks, not because of this issue, but in general :-)
Concerning the devide-by-zero problem :
Toxie still uses FMOD v. 3.5
Current FMOD version is v.3.72

There have been many bugfixes between both versions...
added on the 2004-05-28 19:57:55 by 0x$$ 0x$$
i also still use FPC 0.99.. :)
i'm sooooo oldskool.. ;))

actually i don't wanna mess with the old engine anymore.. so wait for the new one..(this could equal waiting 4ever.. ;)
added on the 2004-06-02 14:24:42 by toxie toxie
hehe...FPC rulz ;)

But coding your new engine in C++ may make it easier to use actual versions of FMOD etc... :)

Btw...there is a little problem with your config interface...it shows me several
resolutions of the same type. For example
it looks like this :


But there is no Hz value behind the resolutions so I always have to guess which is the right one ^^ (I always use 100Hz mode)
added on the 2004-06-02 18:32:11 by 0x$$ 0x$$
ehrm...of course it looks like this ;)

added on the 2004-06-02 18:33:12 by 0x$$ 0x$$
oh no again the wrong paste *g*

added on the 2004-06-02 18:33:41 by 0x$$ 0x$$
What the hell...I deleted the space but it's still there...even if I post it again... =|

Another try...

added on the 2004-06-02 18:34:57 by 0x$$ 0x$$
wow now the space jumped to another place *g* They changed the matrix !!

added on the 2004-06-02 18:36:52 by 0x$$ 0x$$
ok I completely reformatted the text but the space is still there...NAIS ALDER NAIS WAS GEHT DENN HIER AB ODER BINSCH KOMPLETT AM HIRNTOT VERRECKT ? =| DIESES HURIGE LEERZEICHEN...WO KOMMTS BLOS HER ???...well...I should stop this now or they will arrest me....
added on the 2004-06-02 18:41:01 by 0x$$ 0x$$
get a life.
added on the 2004-06-02 18:41:44 by gloom gloom
get a penis
added on the 2004-06-02 18:43:10 by 0x$$ 0x$$
venom du bist sooo krank.. :)))
added on the 2004-06-03 11:07:44 by toxie toxie
added on the 2004-06-03 12:15:36 by dalezr dalezr
Venom: you're not up to date. The Delphi headers included with newer versions of FMOD also work straight with FPC > 1.0.
added on the 2004-06-03 13:15:44 by Delax Delax
ja ich bin definitiv nicht up-to-date was FPC angeht ;))))))))))

Aber schön das sich der header heckmeck nun auch für FPC erledigt hat :))
added on the 2004-06-03 14:58:52 by 0x$$ 0x$$
Subjective 1st place. Other demos at Breakpoint'04 was even better.
sucks added on the 2004-06-03 16:19:07 by zeebr zeebr
Spart euch das Gejammer, wir fixen eh nix an der Demo. Demo machen das kann jeder, aber faul sein, dass können wir cool.
boah cool ey ^^
added on the 2004-06-03 20:19:45 by 0x$$ 0x$$
sucks added on the 2004-06-03 20:33:55 by taimme taimme
shameful, foolish, bade taste of humour... owing to this it rules! ;DD
sucks added on the 2004-06-12 18:42:49 by meCh\bps meCh\bps
This was ... erm ... refreshing :) !!
rulez added on the 2004-06-15 22:38:47 by monroe monroe
the song really rules!!! ahahahha i love bad taste!
rulez added on the 2004-06-30 12:55:30 by dbrn dbrn
please no
sucks added on the 2004-07-04 18:46:57 by titanstar titanstar
It's ehleid!
rulez added on the 2004-07-13 19:52:20 by radman1 radman1
definitely a mediocre one.
but as funprod it's quite fresh and (again) fun
so it gets
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added on the 2004-07-13 20:31:24 by apricot apricot
sucks added on the 2004-07-19 17:38:22 by ninja ninja
sucks added on the 2004-07-20 02:02:01 by tintotinto tintotinto
This is supposed to be funny? Dick jokes? The average age of the demoscene must be twelve.
sucks added on the 2004-08-02 19:05:01 by sea_monkey sea_monkey
nothing special from a technical stand point, but the song lyrics are so funny that it gets my thumb :)
rulez added on the 2004-08-03 00:28:21 by root root
Dude totally sweet
rulez added on the 2004-08-03 08:55:11 by Mike 3D Mike 3D
It is just the other way round: we do dick-jokes since twelve years now.
Haven't posted yet!? Ooops...sorry!
That's a _must_ of course!

Damn funny demo with a pure satirical aspect which simply rules and works out!
A bit sad (for the non-german scene) that the lyrics are mainly german and not even subtitled or something! As the music/words are definitely one of the main-reasons for this prod to work! :-)

Simply great style and pure fun for sure!
You really have to see it to believe it! ;-D
rulez added on the 2004-08-11 17:55:17 by Weasel Weasel
I can't believe I haven't voted for this yet!
sucks added on the 2004-08-26 12:54:30 by Shanethewolf Shanethewolf
great , hilarious demo! love the c64 parts most! mucho better than most other prods who take themselves too serious
rulez added on the 2004-09-01 00:15:20 by guru512 guru512
thing sucks.
sucks added on the 2004-09-02 10:29:28 by d3pth d3pth
During the compo I thought whis were worst demo in compo and it still is.
sucks added on the 2004-10-02 16:22:31 by blueflame blueflame
watched this yesterday, fortunately the machine booted itself after two minutes or so. i would probably have destroyed the machine if it hadn't done so..

this is so low quality piece of shit it's impossible for me to undestand how anyone would vote for it.
sucks added on the 2004-10-09 15:48:54 by nosfe nosfe
rulez added on the 2004-10-21 20:25:56 by tryfex tryfex
sucks added on the 2004-10-21 20:30:16 by quisten quisten
I like this, say what you say.
rulez added on the 2004-10-21 20:34:11 by Preacher Preacher
rulez added on the 2004-10-21 21:44:13 by apricot apricot
this IS an entertaining production
sucks added on the 2004-10-23 22:30:05 by p01 p01
fuckings to bitching people. fun is fun.
rulez added on the 2004-10-23 22:36:41 by kusma kusma
Very funny :)
Deserves 1st place in the WILD compo.
rulez added on the 2004-11-09 02:00:54 by Frozzy Frozzy
sucks added on the 2004-11-10 22:33:43 by hurri hurri
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added on the 2004-11-16 10:33:16 by kusma kusma
i like it somehow
rulez added on the 2004-11-16 10:58:17 by nytrik nytrik
I can't thumb it down for beating xmix, but I can thumb it for: Bugs, boring concept. Music was somehow a better. Maybe even funny for germans.
sucks added on the 2004-11-16 11:33:16 by Mr Twist Laser Mr Twist Laser
This is the biggest display of dick-wagging I have ever seen. Weinerdemo, anyone?

About the demo: humor aside, it's pretty lame.
sucks added on the 2004-11-23 09:07:34 by s_tec s_tec
rulez added on the 2004-11-25 20:56:27 by las las
faker: ich nehme an mein ding crasht im grafikkartentreiber. Also wirklich, ich wollte nur mal meckern, da ist eigentlich nix zu fixen.
added on the 2004-11-26 22:11:37 by eye eye
Metalvotze in nobly design.
This one surely becomes a classic and is on my ever best list.
Like it or not, Metalvotze isn't to compare with other groups. Own style anyway.
Respect to 'Fieser Wolf' for the great musical company.
Long live Pissing-Penisbunny ;-)
rulez added on the 2004-11-26 23:08:44 by checkoff checkoff
eye/PaC: das ist Kunst, da wird nicht gemeckert!
I didn't vote this 'demo'?

Its funny, ok - dick jokes, penis humor isn't very complex, but here it works (for me). I think a main problem with jokeprods is: you need to understand the language and the joke to love it. You shouldn't rate things you doesn't understand.

Also mir gefaellts, der grosse Prod-Rest der Votzen ist Schrott, grosser Schrott, aber hier ist ihnen wirklich lustiges gelungen - einer der wenigen hiphop tracks, die es in meine musiksammlung geschafft haben. Ob das einen ersten Platz rechtfertigt, sei dahingestellt.
rulez added on the 2004-12-21 23:08:27 by imYemeth imYemeth
See above.
sucks added on the 2005-01-05 23:59:11 by grip grip
You could check your favourite P2P-client for Winnerdemo c64 Released By Nachtschicht.rar. ;)
final version
-> fixes a small bug and also is more compact..
added on the 2005-03-03 16:33:40 by toxie toxie
Nice idea with funny muisc.
rulez added on the 2005-03-12 11:07:32 by Cj Cj
cant believe i never commented on this.

this demo was full of allusions to symbols and metaphors of the demoscene, i doubt that anyone can comprehend it who doesnt know at all what the demoscene is. i also find it nice that a demo that is not commercially appealing won the hearts of the people who have been at the partyplace - i think the message was even stronger with all the ATI merchandise around for a contrast.
rulez added on the 2005-03-20 22:34:00 by paniq paniq
I don't know why I didn't thumb it up either
rulez added on the 2005-03-20 22:49:28 by Lord Graga Lord Graga
It's fucked up but it made me laugh, watched it twice too so it can't be bad :-)

One of the guys holding one of the old comps looks like one of the lecturers that taught me in college too, so for bringing back memories of my happy teenage years...
rulez added on the 2005-03-21 09:13:57 by Shockwave Shockwave
rulez added on the 2005-04-13 23:46:53 by Lupin Lupin
It rulez!
rulez added on the 2005-04-28 15:23:02 by ST ST

hey! -- although i fail to really enjoy it, still a very interesting case:: despite ganeral incoherence [lot of things quickly thrown together], winnerdemo flows smoothly and creates some kind of atmosphere // and the fact it won is nothing more than a good laught -- if visitors are voting for clowns, is BP turning circus now?:D

added on the 2005-05-25 18:42:24 by raver raver
u-m, why 1st? (from breakpoint)
sucks added on the 2005-05-25 18:49:54 by got got
This is for a _long_ time the most entertaining, well designed and FRESH production so far. I like the scene sarcasm which actually 100% fits (pouet proves). I think it's not fun watching when you don't speak german, but even my gf likes it very much ;)

With this prod MV gained my all-time respect. wheenies. ;)
rulez added on the 2005-07-01 04:55:10 by PigPen PigPen
A demo with interesting effects (in the audience). ;)
rulez added on the 2005-08-06 07:26:06 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
I don't like their demos on C64 but this crap is really entertaining!
rulez added on the 2005-08-26 14:20:29 by Jailbird Jailbird
Funny stuff!
rulez added on the 2005-10-24 23:16:14 by El Topo El Topo
quite mediocre; plus the fact that most of us don't understand german. btw, why does the 3d run sooo slowly? Are you using glVertex3f or what??
added on the 2006-01-19 12:33:40 by iq iq
As enjoyable as Hasselhoff singing. In german.
sucks added on the 2006-01-19 12:41:06 by Navis Navis
anytime i think i forgot that song, it silently shows up and crawls into my mind.
sucks added on the 2006-01-19 13:05:52 by anesthetic anesthetic
iq: because there are some mega-tons of polys in the c64scene? (everything is FULLY modelled, no texture fakes!)
added on the 2006-01-19 13:14:22 by toxie toxie
toxie: what, like over 1 million polys? =)
added on the 2006-01-19 13:57:11 by smash smash
smash: it's over 200.000 packed into some several hundred objects and that runs fine even on intel-onboard-chips, like f.e. sucky mobile-82855 (old laptop of mine) or an 810 of a friend (several years old crap-intel-onboard-gfx)!
added on the 2006-01-19 17:09:53 by toxie toxie
A warm demo.
I expecially enjoyed the circuit-board scene and the presence of photos and references to the democrew ppl. Enjoyable music also...
rulez added on the 2006-01-19 21:57:32 by bdk bdk
this is great! all demos should look like this :)
metalvotze don't stop!
rulez added on the 2006-04-03 12:51:11 by calimero calimero
in your face!
rulez added on the 2006-06-01 19:39:36 by hunta hunta
can any of you with pc make a video of this? we had a very big laugh at bgparty when totally drunk while watching this one on the "big-screen" :)
rulez added on the 2006-06-01 22:43:11 by winden winden
und noch'n Meter dazu!
The one PC prod I still remember from BP06
rulez added on the 2006-06-01 23:24:10 by d0DgE d0DgE
sucks added on the 2006-06-21 02:55:37 by xernobyl xernobyl
d0DgE: Interesting, because this demo is from Breakpoint 2004. ;)
Really Funny one *g*
rulez added on the 2006-07-24 21:45:06 by Sapphire Sapphire
rulez added on the 2006-07-24 22:04:12 by 4kum4 4kum4
sucks added on the 2006-08-18 22:29:11 by bhead bhead
Und noch 'n Meter dazu!
rulez added on the 2006-08-18 22:37:16 by Blackspawn Blackspawn
makes a laff
rulez added on the 2006-08-28 12:41:43 by Gaia Gaia
Nice Idea and cool lyrics :D ... better than all this crap TorusKnot and "0815 can't produce cool techno" demos on pouet here...
rulez added on the 2006-08-28 21:55:08 by .. ..
sucks added on the 2006-08-28 22:31:41 by Flunce Flunce
i like it ;)
rulez added on the 2006-08-28 22:43:31 by dq dq
Sadly i was asleep that time.
rulez added on the 2006-08-29 18:46:54 by Exin Exin
Not my kind of winner demo... ):
sucks added on the 2006-08-29 19:06:30 by nitro2k01 nitro2k01
no sir, I didn't like it
sucks added on the 2006-09-03 13:11:37 by Osmic Osmic
heeeeee... hooooo... heeee... hoooooooo! hilarious and refreshing. :)
rulez added on the 2006-09-07 10:34:38 by Axel Axel
FUN! =)))
rulez added on the 2006-09-18 15:28:03 by _xiod_ _xiod_
rulez added on the 2006-10-30 03:42:24 by gentleman gentleman
peinlich, wie peinlich!!!
sucks added on the 2006-11-13 22:33:54 by Pit Pit
yay \o/
rulez added on the 2006-11-13 22:43:22 by britelite britelite
now that i've seen it, i must vote... ok, thumbs up :)
rulez added on the 2006-11-19 18:12:52 by faraday faraday
what a waste of good tune it was
sucks added on the 2006-11-19 18:38:46 by dimouse dimouse
I didn't like it, except the 3D stuffs & the song refrain.
sucks added on the 2007-03-06 01:58:53 by wullon wullon
rulez added on the 2007-04-24 15:52:22 by src src

Interesting, because this demo is from Breakpoint 2004. ;)

OMG you're right...well, slightly getting old... :/
added on the 2007-04-24 17:04:22 by d0DgE d0DgE
lame effects but great soundtrack. why do have germans always to excuse for their language??? especially on a german demo party ?? what is so strange about the fact, that a german entry ruled the compo when it does directly address the audience??

i like this one, even if I think that Metalvotze usually suxx :)
rulez added on the 2007-05-21 00:42:13 by twh twh
Pretty ok, oh and another shiny c64 and slow 1541 disk drive.
rulez added on the 2007-08-10 19:52:35 by hamster hamster
Ah, forgot to thumb...
This is one of the few "funny demos" that are actually funny! I had a good laugh when I heard the lyrics for the first time :-)
rulez added on the 2007-08-16 13:14:45 by Stebo Stebo
So you has demo, which can beat all other demos.

Mann ist das Ding so geil, ich hab seit Jahren nicht mehr so gelacht.

Hammer, Hammer, Hammer.
rulez added on the 2007-10-03 14:01:08 by JAC! JAC!
auf einem auge bloed aber der erfolg gibt ihnen recht.
rulez added on the 2007-12-21 15:31:11 by orange orange
sucks added on the 2008-02-02 07:51:20 by artanis artanis
VIDEO please!!!! :) :)
added on the 2008-02-08 16:21:25 by calimero calimero
Much as I want to gnaw my own leg off as punishment for saying this, I really like this one.
rulez added on the 2008-03-03 09:00:49 by auld auld
sucks added on the 2008-03-09 15:40:57 by nula nula
sehr gut getroffen. love
rulez added on the 2008-05-22 01:36:44 by relias abardon relias abardon
youtubeor other online link plz!!!!!
added on the 2008-06-04 00:02:15 by calimero calimero

rulez added on the 2008-06-04 01:13:04 by ɧ4ɾɗվ. ɧ4ɾɗվ.
rulez added on the 2008-08-15 19:10:33 by Anat Anat
it just simply rules :_)
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 18:36:03 by ___ ___
nice joke prod but seriously, should have been ranked second.
sucks added on the 2008-10-21 10:01:07 by grz grz
We got teh computers that can beat your computers
rulez added on the 2008-11-02 00:09:13 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
sucks added on the 2008-11-02 00:09:48 by havoc havoc
I like this a lot more than yet another high quality but boring effect demo.
rulez added on the 2008-11-20 07:52:40 by chock chock
aha...great song! not great quaity but it has a nice feeling to it :D
rulez added on the 2008-12-28 07:32:57 by button button
Einmal Votze, immer Votze! I guess the complaining ones have no glue what a demo is all about. It's not always nice to see phong-shaded Torus or cubes in a demo. Fun and good ideas are more important in my opinion. This one was fresh in the content and has some serious good music going along with it. Even the name rocks, how hairy can your eggs be, naming your demo "winnerdemo" and win afterwards.

Maybe the language could be english, but after hearing "Rob is jarig" for ages... I guess a german Demo is the right answer to this crap ;)
rulez added on the 2009-02-08 13:57:35 by cryer cryer
Votze schreibt sich mit F!
sucks added on the 2009-02-10 11:30:56 by noname noname
this demo has everything
rulez added on the 2009-02-10 11:37:36 by Captain Zed Yago Captain Zed Yago
the popular winner demo ;-)
rulez added on the 2009-02-10 11:44:28 by magic magic
rulez added on the 2009-02-11 23:57:36 by SiR SiR
rulez added on the 2009-02-20 19:33:16 by vestige vestige
Schwanzlänge 3,60m
rulez added on the 2009-02-20 19:44:39 by Joghurt Joghurt
for the LULZ
rulez added on the 2009-03-12 01:51:38 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
rulez added on the 2009-05-29 01:11:19 by texel texel
Best Rap in a Demo ever. Instant laughs - worthy winner!
rulez added on the 2009-05-31 17:46:22 by Dano Dano
forgot to thumb this down
sucks added on the 2009-06-13 22:12:09 by noby noby
so ugly
rulez added on the 2010-03-20 10:24:25 by spritus spritus
Schwanzlänge 3,60m

for the LULZ

This quote combination is very funny for Dutch people ^^

Also demo still owns, Metalvotze owns!
added on the 2010-03-20 10:40:04 by okkie okkie
Nomen est omen :)
rulez added on the 2010-04-01 18:29:08 by zstab zstab
sucks added on the 2010-04-09 04:45:28 by zoolum zoolum
Funny altough not technical!
rulez added on the 2010-07-21 15:57:54 by baah baah
metalvotze is teh win!
rulez added on the 2010-07-21 16:02:53 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
rulez added on the 2010-08-09 22:31:49 by shock__ shock__
sucks added on the 2010-09-17 04:11:07 by jeenio jeenio
worst demo ever.
rulez added on the 2010-09-19 14:54:50 by electrobrain electrobrain
The music rules
rulez added on the 2010-10-05 20:45:09 by samurai samurai
rulez added on the 2010-10-05 20:53:57 by bLa bLa
it's SHIT but it's great! :>
rulez added on the 2010-10-05 21:44:49 by nekomono nekomono
so ugly, so good
rulez added on the 2010-10-05 21:55:50 by substrate substrate
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added on the 2011-01-24 12:18:31 by Optimus Optimus
sucks added on the 2011-11-13 23:57:07 by xTr1m xTr1m
Even though it's somewhat fun, it's still ugly and a trollprod. Were it done a bit more tounge-in-cheek I could have settled for piggie.
sucks added on the 2011-11-14 10:00:22 by Tjoppen Tjoppen
Because this shit was sad for excellent demo, which got only second place on compo.
sucks added on the 2011-11-25 16:01:23 by hddn hddn
sucks added on the 2011-12-26 01:50:59 by Frequent Frequent
really funny to re-read all the "controversy"...
added on the 2011-12-26 04:24:07 by dipswitch dipswitch
sucks added on the 2012-05-06 18:33:46 by dafuq dafuq
no, didn't like it. And music sucks.
sucks added on the 2012-05-06 18:43:25 by rage rage
oh mai o_Ô
sucks added on the 2012-05-06 18:44:16 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
sucks added on the 2012-05-06 19:01:44 by aegis aegis
German rap ufff
sucks added on the 2012-05-06 19:34:34 by jack-3d jack-3d
This won? WTF
sucks added on the 2012-06-30 18:54:34 by blueghost blueghost
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added on the 2012-06-30 19:05:06 by JAC! JAC!
Ok what the fuck is this shit, 1st place? WTF PPL.
sucks added on the 2012-06-30 23:13:48 by leGend leGend
Hm - never commented on this. There's an irritatingly catchy chorus ... the kind you WANT to forget, but simply can't. It's got that Rob is jahrig-thing to it. Still, the rest - even for a fun/ironic prod just doesn't make it.
sucks added on the 2012-07-01 00:00:13 by Punqtured Punqtured
eh jungs echt mal.
das meistgehasste prod on pouet?
das ding ist genial!
added on the 2013-08-31 04:45:25 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
After ten years, a well-deserved thumb.
rulezcdc added on the 2014-03-10 18:53:09 by franky-- franky--
After ten years, a well-deserved thumb.

really lame, nothing funny, no talent, nothing.

what keops said ten years ago :D
sucks added on the 2014-03-26 12:26:35 by rez rez
Thanks to compo organizers for the rule that a demo must quit immediately on Esc.
sucks added on the 2014-04-03 17:11:42 by Zavie Zavie
I hope that this get banished to some dark corner of the web.
sucks added on the 2014-09-25 01:10:14 by The_Grandmother The_Grandmother
sucks added on the 2015-04-19 10:12:50 by non-handled guy non-handled guy
Still a must-have in every proper demoshow!

added on the 2015-04-19 20:42:05 by T$ T$
I laughed, and in 2015 I can more easily ignore that something like this shouldn't win a compo...
rulez added on the 2015-04-19 21:08:51 by Kylearan Kylearan
If i could thumb down million times, i'd do it there.
Boring, ugly and no funny at all.
There was no more unfair thing than the fact that moppi never got 1st place at any party.
Asm2004 invitation, probably one of the best invitations of all times came second. This piece of shit, which may be the worst partywinner demo ever, came first.
I guess, this is the best proof that the god does not exist.
sucks added on the 2015-05-08 11:07:35 by sq sq
cheaters never win! :)
sucks added on the 2016-05-23 00:29:16 by Flashira Flashira
forgot thumb
sucks added on the 2016-05-23 00:43:13 by cupe cupe
Haha, you just can't get over it, can you? :-)
I do feel a bit bad about that ASM invitation, I really loved that. However, PC demo compos these days were like 2 hours of tunnels with a cube or spike ball in it. :-)
Whatever you mean with "fake", the audience seemed to be quite happy with this thingie at the party.
added on the 2016-05-27 02:39:02 by Widdy Widdy
The best demosong ever!!!
rulez added on the 2017-01-25 19:40:06 by Crush Crush
thumbs up for the chorus in the song
rulez added on the 2017-05-15 12:31:00 by nagz nagz
däs is ä glassigaa...!
rulez added on the 2017-05-22 22:57:47 by cslag cslag
lol great ;)
rulez added on the 2018-06-02 18:22:41 by skarab skarab
Fast 15 Jahre später, und noch ’n Meter dazu! Großartiger Soundtrack und ein Pouet-Thread vom allerfeinsten.
rulez added on the 2018-12-17 21:15:01 by Bombe Bombe
At least you tried :)
sucks added on the 2018-12-26 11:47:53 by duttaditya18 duttaditya18
Not sure whats better, the demo or this thread. Und was Bombe sagt!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 21:06:38 by groepaz groepaz
Ermm. Nope.
sucks added on the 2020-05-06 19:22:08 by vitalkanev vitalkanev
a classic
added on the 2021-04-14 20:18:32 by wullon wullon
sucks added on the 2021-11-14 11:55:13 by flair flair
sucks added on the 2022-06-23 16:32:15 by usual usual
Such crap!
sucks added on the 2022-06-23 18:25:06 by Stalvik^bbz Stalvik^bbz
sucks added on the 2022-06-24 01:00:04 by mke mke
Those were the days! Today everything is just way too serious .. :P
rulez added on the 2022-09-05 02:17:09 by SunSpire SunSpire
A winner
rulez added on the 2023-01-06 01:01:41 by cruzer cruzer
still hate this
added on the 2023-04-10 19:23:51 by nosfe nosfe
However, I doubt that "Winnerdemo" will ever become a classic like the Budbrain megademo. -- Corial 2004

And yet, here we are 20 years later with lyrics of the soundtrack quoted on stage of Revision 2023 at the Prize Giving XD

Da wächst der Schaft!
added on the 2023-04-11 13:47:15 by d0DgE d0DgE
The best PC demo at this party!
rulez added on the 2023-04-13 17:14:58 by bodo^rab bodo^rab
Jokes on nerdy people: nice story/plot. Execution however: very poor.
sucks added on the 2023-04-17 13:53:25 by davince davince
We have computers that can beat your computers. Enough said.
rulez added on the 2024-04-15 02:20:16 by DaD1916 DaD1916
rulez added on the 2024-04-21 16:54:19 by error64 error64
Would probably have found it funny if i watched it 15 years ago when i was 15 years old.

I now think it's sexist crap.
sucks added on the 2024-05-25 12:15:29 by NinjaKoala NinjaKoala

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