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Who can blame Metalvotze for exploiting the lamer population at BP? Maybe next year The Fearmoths will win.

As for the demo, it's cliched, childish, simplistic, inane and aptly represents all those people who voted for it.

It was funny... as a demo, its shit, but it made me laugh plenty, so i guess it should have the thumb.

I see a heated discussion cummin... ;)

(I comment on all this later...)

(waiting for pissed of non-bp attenders =)

They have humour, which can beat no humour.

Who can blame Metalvotze for exploiting the lamer population at BP?

Oh. So mister I-can't-lift-up-my-ass-to-get-to-a-party did a lot to change that didn't he?

We have deziners /
Wich can beat your deziners

We have colors /
Wich can beat your colors

And so on... Damn you =)

argh.. this was a bit disappointing.. even though they rap about who has the biggest penis and such loveable poetry. Nice that stuff is synched to what the mc is talking about though..

really lame, nothing funny, no talent, nothing.

you understand nothing!

Yes, it's sad that Breakpoints pc demo compo only had avarage productions. I also would like to see something different as #1. But well, actually there wasn't anything better in the compo, so the Metalvotze guys deserved it.

We have computers...

Fully agree to Fzool.
This is the ultimative Fressepissen.

scamp.. did you remember to see the compo? i can name at LEAST 3 demos better than this piece of shit

Maybe too many people waited for a second fr-025...

That is correct, I dont understand how a german joke demo can win at a german demoparty :)

The demo had some funny parts and it probably deserved to win as all other demos were boring and unimaginative.

But what the heck, on pouet I can vote on an absolute scale: Thumb down..

@leia: 3 better productions? oh yeah. flying, rotating cubes for the masses. this demo is the answer for all those wannbe art-demos released at the pc-demo competition. thank you.

I can't tell if i like it or not.
Sometimes this sometimes that.
German lyrics sound a bit annoying for me :D

this is like ISO winning assemblies

leia: Well, actually I was busy organizing some shit during the pc demo compo, so I was unable to fully watch everything. But honestly: Since that compo I've got the "we have computers.." melody in my head, while I hardly can remember any other pc demos anymore, so this thing kinda worked for me it seems.

Let's hope there will be more competition pc demo-wise at Breakpoint 2005.

Didn't make me laugh

a bit funny, but didnt diserve to win. not at all

"We have computers.."
I find it really hard to get this line out of my head.

not funny, not cool...it's crap!

Rules. Nothing more to say. The crowd it too bored to see yet another rotating cube and 3D tunnle whatever demo.

THUMBS UP FOR THE LYRICS AND MUSIC

Thumbup for a good laugh, didn't deserve to win though. That said bp prods this year weren't exactly great, and i wasn't there.

"We have computers, which can beat your computers" =D

no.

I can see why this won, considering how different this is from the other, not really outstanding PC-demo-entries... The idea in itself is probably original, but it lacks quite a lot on the technical side.

it's also in german, which, *surprise* appeals to germans!

I was a bit surprised about this winning (hoped mfx/kewlers wouldget away with it), but hey... if I got a nickel for every time voting fucked up the results...

worst demo ever.

worst demo ever.

pityful

germans...

long, boring, ugly and in german only. An extra thumb down for winning the compo.

discouraging.. thought bp had potential, but instead this just proves that sceners are dorks and wankers still living in their old (geeky) glory days.

useless and worth no money, rules.

"this just proves that sceners are dorks and wankers still living in their old (geeky) glory days."

I think Sylphin hits the target there. I mean, it's hardly what one would call sophisticated humour is it? Geek humour perhaps?

Gargaj: Fair point, but see Sylphin's comment. :)

THE SHIT

Awful, offensive, low quality, evil and disgusting.
How did this win? I saw better 64k demos...
This beats 'Candytron' as the most offensive demo I've seen by a LONG shot.

won't vote till i get to understand the german lyrics... should NOT have won BP, but i won't be voting its rank here... someone gimme a translation =)

Lol. Actually you just have to open the file called "lyrics_en.nfo" ;)

this really sucks...
tho that we have computers thingie is cool, but otherwise the lyrics suck too...

it was funny in compo in some strange way, but i can't understand the 1st place... enough talked about it, so i'll blame voters (including me, forgot to vote anything because i was drunk)

the first time i saw it, it made me laugh a little. the second time i saw it, it made me cry a lot...

This 1st place is representative of massive boredom by "always the same demos each year"... Demomakers, wake up ! Show your creative potential !

crusader: Are you american? What is offensive about candytron?

This is teenie crap. I think I am too old for the scene now.

Fuckings to Metalvotze for making such a immature demo, and even bigger fuckings to all the immature lamers that voted for it.

Crusader: Candytron is offensive ? lol are you normal ? this is the sweetest demo i've ever seen :p

Sigh.. so now the "make a crappy 'fun' demo that appeals to the drunken locals at the party" has reached Breakpoint aswell.
While I agree that the democompo wasn't top notch, there were a whole bunch of other entries that were better.

yehaa

jeez, all hell breaks loose now ;)
i for myself found it the only demo really entertaining at the party, and because demos are in essence about entertaining it got my vote too
i can see how all you 1337 guys are really pissed because your hard work went down the drain, but see it this way: next time do a technically excellent demo that is _entertaining_
we have computers which can beat your computers. it will take a long while getting this is out of my head...

we have computers which can beat your computers. it will take a long while getting this is out of my head
Yeah, along with "AMIGA!" and "MARRY ME!"...

first place ? why not ? it is full of freshness and seems to have clear ideas about the scene and its evolution (from what i can understand), and doing such synchro demo is always lots of work. To my mind, moppy should have get 1st and this one second.

Didn't deserve first place at all.

A major thumb up tho. For the fun I had at the party, for your attitide, and for the fact that I'll beat the living crap out of you next time because I also can't get that frickin' "we have computers..." out of my head :)

hehehe. metalvotze did it.... become famous for shit, do the unexpected thing and win the compo. there were a lot of better demos (synthetic dentiforms for example) that deserved a higher rank. anyway, metalvotze - surprised the crowd and they voted for it.

thumb up!

Shoot yourselves

FUCKING AWESOME! BEST FUCKING DEMO EVER! I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

(ps, you are all wankers :D)

ach geht doch heim
wie konnte dieser scheissdreck gewinnen?
:(((

it just shows that we hit something hurting deep inside
oh man.. you think you came to educate..?

i dont know if i hate metalvotze more after winning til demo compo, or if i just lost a lot of my respect for BP for being the coolest scene party ever.

I guess it would be metalvotze for using this demo at BP and not fx. TP2004 .. i would fit in there

Excellent production. It's ugly, it's irritating, it features low-level German humor and most importantly, it wins! Excellent stuff I'd say, proving a point that had to be proven for a long time.

Only decent things in this demo:

1 the precalc chip

2 the C64 :)

3 the 6851 inside the C64

At least i actually semi enjoyed watching this unlike x-mix 2004 which i had to chain my arm to the desk to stop it from pressing the esc key.

The first time, i laughed ... then when i saw it came first at BP, i praised all gods, erased it from my HD ...
So a piggy for the mixed about that ...

Not a winner demo for me

beside´s moppi´s it was the only demo i watched more than one time. so what can i say. :) it was even more clever as a joke production than those danish "joke" productions in danish language (which appeared on the last TP´s).

i would only like to see better REAL DEMOS next time from the other groups. the pc demo compo was too weak in general.

VOZ surprised the audience, they voted for it and there's nothing more to say than: The winner is the winner is the winner.

Overall there were better entries, but nevertheless congrats to Bitbreaker and Co.

hahaha damn.
I don't like that Demo quite much. Yet, I don't complain about it being first. xD

fuckings too all who care about offensive demos... uptight or what??
funny demo indeed,but didn't deserves the 1st place..

there were alot better, but on the whole bp demos were just average this year...

METALVOTZE SLAPT YOU SERIOUS PC CODERS FOR BRINGING US NOTHING MORE THAN THE SAME BORING STUFF AT THE COMPO!!!!!!!

Important announcement: I am converted into a Metalvotze fan now. Gonna download and watch all their old dirty C64 basic demos again :)

This is the ONLY ONE demo i saved from the bp04's pc demo-compo. Not a good thing that a simple joke-demo can win a party (which is almost the biggest in the line). Other demos are bellow of any critism, nothing to say about them. It's the best (pain to say that) entry in the compo.

Other way, i like it, it's funny and weird enough for a thumb up !

no, not a winner demo, imho

maybe they should've called it "Wienerdemo" ;)

I must say the music is very cool, but really, as a demo it is plain crap..

It's really a looser demo, but I love it! Brave kids!

ok, technical not really a "winner demo", but it was fun watching and i shouldn't complain since i was involved in "staatsfreund nummer eins". thumbs up for making me laugh :)

WHAT WERE THOSE PPL AT BREAKPOINT THINKING!!!!!!!!!!!

these sceners should be drug out into the street and shot. who freaking cares about your dick!

Well, i was thinking "Thank you Metalvotze, for saving me from falling asleep during the PC-Democompo".

Bugga bugga bo.. bugs

drug or drag? Hahahaha!!! The influence and discussions this unpredictable win had on the scene is preety interesting..

"Da wächst der Schaft"

urrr, german crap :P this demo was very votze!

Crap

this one kicked some mighty asses!

Piece of crap :(

Awfull and horrible crap.... if even you can speak german it is ordinary fun-like crap too.... Shame on Breakpoint jury

there was no real jury... the attenders were the jury, man

it's very bad prod, teenagers strikes again
shame on voters, shame on jury, jury = lamers !

I respect anyone who can win a large compo with this pile of shit!

bwahahaaa. well. lame boring nerdy 3d effect shows don't always cut it on pc. metalvotze, thanks for waking up the scene. (and myself at bp)

To put it simple: This won the competition because it was one of 2 or 3 original and interesting demos out of over twenty totally boring flyby-shows in the PC demo compo.
The rap can only be appreciated if you know german - the english translation just doesnt cut it ;)

Resume: Schwanzlänge 3 Meter 60!

fuck. i rarely comment this kind of prod but
shit number#1. YOU ALL WHO VOTED THIS
SHOULD SHAME ON YOURSELF. you suck.
this demo sucks. metalvotze is like when
"tAAt-on-puberty". this is really really horrible
and shitty demo. but DONT COMPLAIN
HERE YOU VOTED IT NUMBER ONE. METALVOTZE LAUGHS AT WAY TO BANK:((
and everyone who downvotes this is hypocritic, VOTE DIFFERENT AT PARTY and this shit wont win. and wasnt bp orgas suppose disqualify all shitty and annoying stuff..

I couldn't really care less what position this reached, it would suck anyway. Next time at least make the rap in English :)

Most entertaining PC-demo at BP04. Looking forward to the discussions :)

Get a real job!

Thank you for reminding me how happy I am with my real life, bunch of freaks :)

canonball & zone & whoever: it can't be THAT hard to get that breakpoint does not have jury-based voting, but public voting. With 900 sceners present, this "jury" probably represents the biggest part of the active demo scene. So what is all this bullshit about the votes being unfair etc? What exactly is unfair about democracy and public voting?

Face the reality: The majority of voters at Breakpoint liked this production. This gives me the following conclusions:

1.) The pouet trolls that did not even attend breakpoint should shut the fuck up. If you don't even visit one of the most important demo partys, you are not part of the scene and should not comment at all. Go away. :)

2.) See kb's comment - every visitor of Breakpoint had the ability to vote. If you did not vote and now are unhappy with the results, then shut the fuck up. It is YOUR fault!

3.) All this is not bad. And it's neither the end of the scene nor anything near that. After Breakpoint 2003 people thought the Amiga scene was dead, as the Amiga contributions were rather poor. And now look what happened this year. So what, next year probably the pc demo releases will rock again.

4.) And a note for people blaming breakpoint for the pc demo compo: No, we did not put up a rule saying "Please only submit boring stuff to the pc demo compo". And no, it's not the organizers fault (unless you blame Farbrausch for being busy organizing BP (and the 96k game) instead of submitting a demo).

Get over it.

The highpoint of this demo was the verse in the song, besides that i think its rather poor, and i really don`t like "childish scenes" in demos. But that`s enough to get many peoples attention i guess.

Yes, it is crap - but also much more entertaining than most other joke demos existing. Even when I watched it at home again I considered it still funny - not to mention the atmosphere there was during the compo. Noch ein Meter dazu!

next year remember to vote metalvotze
again.. so they can have more booze and
expensive graphic cards.. who cares about
those anyways...

Now, all of this makes VERY little sense unless you understand the german lyrics AND know metalvotze and their role in the c64 scene.
Secondly, it has the most haunting chorus line ever heard in a demo soundtrack. Prepare for millions of references and parodies in future productions.
Thirdly, all of you are SO predictable. :)
Fourthly, Metalvotze really had a walk-over with this demo, also thanks to the overall mediocrity of this years demo compo (or was it just the high expectations?)
Fifthly, it won. Damn. Get over it.

Junk, but funny junk :)

I could not get to Breakpoint this year, but after this I question if it worths being there. It's not the fault of Metalvotze or Ainc, but the voters are to blamed. You may be untalented, you may have bad humor, but then you should not win.

What makes a good demo? Isn't it excellence? This demo has no code, no art -- then, is this demo excellent in humor at least? I know my answer. If the BP audience calls this a good demo (or even a winner demo), then BP is not the scene where I belong to. Breakpoint calls itself a 'no gamers' party, but who cares whether gamers or drunken wankers spoil the fun. Gamers don't ruin the compos, actually.

After this demo and most other releases, I doubt if Breakpoint is a major demoparty at all.

Face it - BP is a drinking compo for oldschoolers.

scamp:
"If you don't even visit one of the most important demo partys, you are not part of the scene and should not comment at all"

Really? You know what........ (paragraph deleted, too harsh)

For me, it seems if it's ascii-wanking to 16color chicks is all it takes to win "one of the most important demoparties", then why would anyone make an effort to do something REALLY good.

Face it scamp, it was mainly already-too-drunk mainly-german-speaking people who voted it first. And the 20+ (or so) demos were partly your fault - nothing prevents you to use preselection. (should have learnt from mekka, remember?) Don't tell me "we did expect only 5-6 demos", after all, this is "one of the most important demoparties".

Hope you were kidding.

No thumb down, because as a joke production (i guess it was never meant to be anything else), it's pretty good :-)

I liked the song and the attitude. Therefore thumbs up.

However, I didn't like to see it beating productions that really deserved to win. But still - why blame the demo if the audience is stupid? :)

This looks like the hysteria back in the old days when Budbrain won a competition with a certain megademo beating Crionics and all the other megastars. However, I doubt that "Winnerdemo" will ever become a classic like the Budbrain megademo.

I don|t like it, but who cares?

@ scamp:
- No jury? i thinked it was a fucking jury, i hate jurys, so ok, i respect the audience votes, they wanted this prod win, it's done.
- Send me money and i'll come, it's not easy to find 200 euros to come to a party when you take care about bread price every day!

@BP orgas:
Next time, to have better than medium prods, allow internet submissions of prods!

Zone, sometimes you are so ignorant and misinformed that it hurts. Demo submissions were allowed. And how you got the jury idea is beyond me too.

gem: What do the compo releases/results have to do with the fun you might had there? I had even fun at 0A000h with only 2 releases per compo! (Smaller parties have a great atmosphere! This was my favoritest party experience after BP really!)

Why should the results define if the scene at BP (a big part of the whole scene) is the one you belong? I discover that every scener has diferrent reasons for being here, others are drunkards, other are serious coders, hardcore or having a job, being either fun of art, noise or oldschool demos, others are lamers, others love to have fun by annoying the serious sceners, others have a life and others don't :). What I loved at BP is that I could get along with every kind of weird people. Perhaps some of them are not my type, not the part of the scene I belong if you want, but I just don't the scene so seriously and accept (even I am happy and laugh about it) the victory of Metalvotze demo. I think that the power of the scene is that: To get along with every weird freak, else you will just feel that some of the people are not of your kind, so the scene is not too..

Ok,. I can't say what I want in few words, perhaps I am lost in some thoughts,. nevertheless it's funny to see some serious sceners here too :)

"For me, it seems if it's ascii-wanking to 16color chicks is all it takes to win "one of the most important demoparties", then why would anyone make an effort to do something REALLY good."

Because people are not doing cool demos just to win the compos. And it wasn't just ASCII wanking and 16bit color chicks ;). Damn! I watched it yesterday and I want to watch it again!!! It has cool funny sync with the lyrics, my favorite part is where it says "Blass mich" (am I writting this well?) and with the sound changing to something cool you get into the C64 =). Great atmosphere!!!

"it was mainly already-too-drunk mainly-german-speaking people who voted it first."

Don't forget the C64 sceners too ;)

I find it interesting how every other poster repeats that this demo is "crap". Care to give reasons?

Granted, the demo doesn't offer innovative code or superb art. But it has one thing that many many demos lack: It's got the flow. It never bores you even for a second. New crazy ideas constantly pop up. If you don't unterstand German or find VOZ-style pubic humor distasteful, it's probably not your cup of tea... but otherwise - well, it's a work of love, that's for sure.

Of course, the best thing of it all is the chorus. Chances are it will stay with the demoscene in all eternity. BTW, did they invent the slogan for this prod or has it popped up somewhere else before?

Thumbs up for proving that public voting on demoparties sucks. Only an idiot would let 1500 drunken, sleepy and stoned sceners vote, and then still believe that the best demo shall win ;-)

breakpoint without metalvotze would be like pouet without optimus - boring :)
this "demo" at least has very memorable moments - the "we have computers..." thingy is probably the best slogan in the history of the demoscene (definitely better than "the code inside" :)) and the c64 model was also great (the whole thing worked for me though i don't even understand german!)

mfx should have won the compo, but their demo probably needs several watching - i'm starting to really enjoy it now, though i didn't like it at first

i'm sure this was kind of funny to some people, but come on.. this blows.

haha, the comments towards bp are hilarious! don't worry scamp, bp is the best demoparty ever imo and a good demoparty is not about productions, but about atmosphere! so sorry to all you poor pathetic losers that couldn't make it. you missed an AWESOME party where this AWESOME demo won!

hhahahahah

i like this one. it's not technically impressive but it's different and it's entertaining.

which should be honored by thumb up :)

reptile:

> Face it scamp, it was mainly already-too-
> drunk mainly-german-speaking people who
> voted it first.

And you know that how?

Only 40% of breakpoint visitors were german speaking. If you are right it would mean that every german speaking person voted it #1 and everyone else did not vote at all or something along that lines.

"Face it", neither you nor me knows who voted for what.

> And the 20+ (or so) demos were partly
> your fault - nothing prevents you to use
> preselection. (should have learnt from
> mekka, remember?) Don't tell me "we did
> expect only 5-6 demos", after all, this
> is "one of the most important
> demoparties".

Preselection does not help against low entry quality.

And I highly doubt there is any bigger meaning behind all this. Last year the Amiga compo didn't have any killer releases while the PC demo compo had, this year it was the other way round. And maybe next year the C64 or whatever platform will kick some serious butt. For me that's perfectly fine.

Some people really are much too fanatic about all this.

"If you don't even visit one of the most important demo partys, you are not part of the scene and should not comment at all. Go away. :)"

Aha. So people who can't afford to go to BP aren't part of the scene. Funny, I thought being part of the scene was about doing creative stuff on computers. But hey, what do I know.

I damn well hope you weren't being serious scamp.

About the demo: Well... It seems we're somehow supposed to be intimidated by ugly effects and infantile graphics and sound. Sorry, I'm not buying that.
Music and rap performance was decent though.

Does it really matter if it won? This is what happens at parties, get used to it.

thorsten:

Quoting without context isn't nice.

The whole sentence was:

"1.) The pouet trolls that did not even attend breakpoint should shut the fuck up. If you don't even visit one of the most important demo partys, you are not part of the scene and should not comment at all. Go away. :)"

Yes, maybe this was a bit harsh. It wasn't my intention to bash people who were unable to attend breakpoint.

Look at this thread to see stuff like "jury at breakpoint sucked", "this was voted by drunk germans" etc. Obviously people who don't have the most basic clues about voting at demo parties and especially Breakpoint.

Anyway, let me apologize and rephrase:

If you didn't even attend Breakpoint, then stop acting like you have some deep inside knowledge on how/why this demo ranked #1. Get your facts straight before posting bullshit and throwing mud at the party, its organizers and its visitors.

But oh well, whatever I say, some ppl will be trolling anyway, so I'll just stop.

A demo that annoys/shakes so much people can't be that bad.

This is for sure not the best PC-Demo i have ever seen but i was very happy to see that this demo won the competition.
All other demos in the competition just look liked thousands demos seen before.
rotating cube, drum and base soundtracks, transparent layer effects, senceless 3d objects and so on.
I think the demo scene should awake and realize what demos have been in the past.
Years ago people voted for demos which showed something new, but today demos are something like music videos, no thanx.
Well done Metalvotze !
Aeg/Smash-Designs

i mean so many ;)

sucks ass with a vengance.

this as the winner demo winnerdemo is not good for the scene. :(

scamp:

Wont go into mathematical analysis of how it happened, i think we didnt need to be at the partyplace the see WHY... it's just very disappointing, hope you see the point. Nothing's wrong with a compo not having state-of-the-art entries, but it's a bit different from having decent prods (like the demo compo), and still winning with.. this.

"Preselection does not help against low entry quality."
It does. That's why it's called "preselection" :) (guess you had one for the musiccompo too, for example)

"Some people really are much too fanatic about all this. "
No not at all :-) No hard feelings against anyone, especially the organizers, or MV, i'm just a bit disappointed and wanted to share my opinion. Actually i think it is you who take it a bit too seriously, i know you're still exhausted, but hey, relax, and congrats for your work! :-)

ok, i read some comments above, and i nearly don't get it ... we must comment about the demo, no ? bp04 was, i suppose, one of the best demo party again, and i'll like to be present next year.
About the demo: hmm, i can undersand why people found it funny, and why they voted for it. My opinion is: what is funny about saying 30 times dick in a song ? ... maybe i just don't get it. On the technical part, there's nothing which is logical coz it's the aim of the demo. Anyway, i don't like it and I don't think it's funny ...

Yeah that's the only part i can give a thumb up. Kb_ u r right...nobody can take "We have computers which can beat your computers" out of their heads!!!

@ Tomaes :
you're right, website say :
"If you submit something, you have to be present at the party"
and say :
"Submissions via E-mail are only allowed for the demo compos and after further negotiation with the respective organizers."
there is no direct link about this famous 'respective orga', and i'll never negotiate something with orgas before sending a prod by internet, it's stupid! you send or not, why negotiate, negotiate what ?

in fact i'm just disappointed, because i waited the best 2004 prods from this party, and this joke-prod wich win.... (this prod is not so bad, it's ranking is shame, not the prod itself (music is ok for example), i'm not against joke prods or this prod, just against the fact DemoCompo winner must have the best code, music, gfxs of all the showed demos, and probably 400 selfcalled demomakers voted for this one, it's a disrespect of the whole demoscene and other demomakers wich work hard for some months to provide good prods.)

disgusting.

I had a pretty good laugh ...

damn, i had a good laugh reading this thread.. so many whiners around. hahaha.. remember, the whiner and consumer scene is dead.

Definitely not my style. And I am already beginning to get bored of that 'we have computers' chorus. On the other hand I thought the voice quality (not the lyrics) were done well and I can't downright thumb this down. But there were surely a lot better entries in the compo.

"It has been said that democracy is the 'worst' form of Government except all those others that have been tried from time to time."

- Winston Churchill

(damn the song is going in my head)

Blah.

hehe, the lyrics-outtakes (included as txt-file)alone deserve a thumb up...

let the thumb speak

Funny, but not a demo to win a party ...

i couldn't care less but fuckings to all germans anyway =)

German rap is indeed a hilarious thing :) This one has many funny elements (which get even funnier when observed under influence of alcohol etc) but I don't think it deserves a thumb ...neither up or down

coolos
nice rap :p
464 onzia!

Thumbs up for being 'different' as many others said before.
And I don't think it's extremely bad from the technical side. And also the other demos from BP were not so bad. There was just no real killer demo, that's all. I guess ppl expected too much.

Excellent music. Most vocal music in demos is just bad mixed, bad sung shit (tho' there are exceptions) but this rocks. And won't go out of my head damnit.
Excellent flow. Slow start, then suprising show of 3d, then getting back into the rythm again. And synced to the music.
Nice c64 model, gfx fitting to the concept, the "money split" could have been shorter, but thats just a minor.
All in all I second AEG - this deserved to win. Besides it was a perfect place to show it in the compo: just when you were bored from the "i wanna be a vj" demos this came along and was just..well...different. The refrain was hummed/ sung/ mumbled for the rest of the compo and the evening. So I guess it stuck in the head where other demos didn't. Now sit down, shut up and ask yourself why is that so (And if you really think it was the ascii dicks then why don't you try releasing some as a demo and watch yourself being last - because it isn't. It's all in the flow/ rythm, baby).

Not many flashy FX, but very clean overall design.
Quite refreshing between all those 3D players.

yes.

It's not always about grafix and code, it's sometimes about Schwanzlänge.. Hehe, this demo really ruled in the competition, and after the demo compo ended, I knew this would be the demo I would want to win. Althought I didn't really think it would win after all... Anyways, "We have computers .. that can beat your computers"... I can't get it out of my brain either :))

argh shit

we have some currywurst, which can beat your currywurst.

thumb up for the cock-o-meter!

(calodox should've won)

(i agree with chavez)

- entertaining at the party place
- sucks for home-entertainment
- thumbs down

:O

LOL!

l33t !

better at the party than at home. but i still understand how it won thus I thumb up for the great surprise on the metalzvote members face when they were on the stage. proof that it was just for fun and the audience decided.

that is strange, fun, good, etc...

metalvotze powah!

well it made me laugh and thats rare from a demo. so ill give it a thumb up for that atleast

We were laughing like hell while we saw the democompetition and had tears in our eyes when this demo was over and out. Yeah, it's surely a crappy piece of demo, and the MetalVotzen never tried to hide this fact. The demos from f.e. Nuance or Calodox were better for sure - but the rap was kinda cool, at least for germans. Where the fuck is their wilddemo from BP, cannot find it for gods sake! You should watch that first and you'll be able to understand this demo in a more effective way.

Wade:Move your lazy .. (you know what I mean) over to this party instead of complaining about everything and nothing next year.

ok, after watching it at a party, I can get the 'feeling'... but it sucks, so it'll be a piggie :-)

I hereby apologise for not voting at the party

you should try to code next time ...

Oh yeah, you just KNEW this demo was going to get all sorts of trolling and inanity at pouet (:

+ the wild is very cool so all of this is just a great joke.

Guys, get over it. I was half asleep during the compo, my german is certainly not the best in the world, and even I remembered this one afterwards -- it just *stood out* from the other demos, plus the chorus is just waaaay too catchy... :) So yeah, it probably didn't deserve to win, but please don't act like it never happened before that not the technically/whatever best demo won the competition...

simply sucks, i wonder whats wrong with this scene nowadays..

I just hate this demo.

I half expected my harddrive to be formatted when this demo returned... this didn't really come in #1 did it?

tck42: yes it did...

This is pathetic!
Should be nominated in a wild compo, but winning in the demo category... nooo it's a shame, they can't even code a smooth scroller.

Absolutely great lyrics, absolutely poor demo.
Wait a minute - didn't this one compete in the "Demo Compo", not the "Weird Lyrics Compo"?
So.....

dont encourage things like this

i think thats my first thumb down ever.
CRAP

At last something NEW in the demoscene. How thrilling to find a group who isn't simply trying to fit in with the same effects and pretentious bullshit that everyone half-heartedly strives to pull off these days. Easily comparable to something Melon Dezign might have made, had they been German perverts without mad design skills.

the name of the game is inane

.vote.

BTW, are you aware of a bug which causes devide-by-zero and crash on slower machines midst in the C64 keyboard scene?

My machine which crashes is a JVC mini-Note PC/ MP-XP 3210 (the old classical subnotebook). It has a 650 MHz Celeron ULV CPU. Sound is an on-chip SiS 7018. Graphics is on-ship SiS 630. 128 MB RAM, of which i have 16 shared off to the GFX card. The failure is a floating-point invalid operation (sorry of course not divide by zero), and the sound keeps playing. This error happens independantly of whether DirectSound, noSound or WaveOut is selected. It may just as well be the gfx driver bugging though... I've made a couple of screenshots which i will really soon send to your quality assurance division.

don't like eaven the "hip-hop"

Concerning the devide-by-zero problem :
Toxie still uses FMOD v. 3.5
Current FMOD version is v.3.72

There have been many bugfixes between both versions...

hehe...FPC rulz ;)

But coding your new engine in C++ may make it easier to use actual versions of FMOD etc... :)

Btw...there is a little problem with your config interface...it shows me several
resolutions of the same type. For example
it looks like this :

[...]
1024x768
1024x768
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1280x1024
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[...]

But there is no Hz value behind the resolutions so I always have to guess which is the right one ^^ (I always use 100Hz mode)

ehrm...of course it looks like this ;)

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[...]

oh no again the wrong paste *g*

[...]
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[...]

What the hell...I deleted the space but it's still there...even if I post it again... =|

Another try...

[...]
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wow now the space jumped to another place *g* They changed the matrix !!

[...]
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ok I completely reformatted the text but the space is still there...NAIS ALDER NAIS WAS GEHT DENN HIER AB ODER BINSCH KOMPLETT AM HIRNTOT VERRECKT ? =| DIESES HURIGE LEERZEICHEN...WO KOMMTS BLOS HER ???...well...I should stop this now or they will arrest me....

get a life.

get a penis

HÖEREN SIE AUF

Venom: you're not up to date. The Delphi headers included with newer versions of FMOD also work straight with FPC > 1.0.

ja ich bin definitiv nicht up-to-date was FPC angeht ;))))))))))

Aber schön das sich der header heckmeck nun auch für FPC erledigt hat :))

Subjective 1st place. Other demos at Breakpoint'04 was even better.

boah cool ey ^^

doh!

shameful, foolish, bade taste of humour... owing to this it rules! ;DD

This was ... erm ... refreshing :) !!

the song really rules!!! ahahahha i love bad taste!

please no

It's ehleid!

definitely a mediocre one.
but as funprod it's quite fresh and (again) fun
so it gets
as prod and
as funprod
whoa

:|

shit.

This is supposed to be funny? Dick jokes? The average age of the demoscene must be twelve.

nothing special from a technical stand point, but the song lyrics are so funny that it gets my thumb :)

Dude totally sweet

Haven't posted yet!? Ooops...sorry!
That's a _must_ of course!

Damn funny demo with a pure satirical aspect which simply rules and works out!
A bit sad (for the non-german scene) that the lyrics are mainly german and not even subtitled or something! As the music/words are definitely one of the main-reasons for this prod to work! :-)

Simply great style and pure fun for sure!
You really have to see it to believe it! ;-D

I can't believe I haven't voted for this yet!

great , hilarious demo! love the c64 parts most! mucho better than most other prods who take themselves too serious

thing sucks.

During the compo I thought whis were worst demo in compo and it still is.

watched this yesterday, fortunately the machine booted itself after two minutes or so. i would probably have destroyed the machine if it hadn't done so..

this is so low quality piece of shit it's impossible for me to undestand how anyone would vote for it.

Amazing

I like this, say what you say.

this IS an entertaining production

fuckings to bitching people. fun is fun.

Very funny :)
Deserves 1st place in the WILD compo.

i like it somehow

I can't thumb it down for beating xmix, but I can thumb it for: Bugs, boring concept. Music was somehow a better. Maybe even funny for germans.

This is the biggest display of dick-wagging I have ever seen. Weinerdemo, anyone?

About the demo: humor aside, it's pretty lame.

faker: ich nehme an mein ding crasht im grafikkartentreiber. Also wirklich, ich wollte nur mal meckern, da ist eigentlich nix zu fixen.

Metalvotze in nobly design.
This one surely becomes a classic and is on my ever best list.
Like it or not, Metalvotze isn't to compare with other groups. Own style anyway.
Respect to 'Fieser Wolf' for the great musical company.
Long live Pissing-Penisbunny ;-)

I didn't vote this 'demo'?

Its funny, ok - dick jokes, penis humor isn't very complex, but here it works (for me). I think a main problem with jokeprods is: you need to understand the language and the joke to love it. You shouldn't rate things you doesn't understand.

Also mir gefaellts, der grosse Prod-Rest der Votzen ist Schrott, grosser Schrott, aber hier ist ihnen wirklich lustiges gelungen - einer der wenigen hiphop tracks, die es in meine musiksammlung geschafft haben. Ob das einen ersten Platz rechtfertigt, sei dahingestellt.

See above.

You could check your favourite P2P-client for Winnerdemo c64 Released By Nachtschicht.rar. ;)

sucks²

Nice idea with funny muisc.

cant believe i never commented on this.

this demo was full of allusions to symbols and metaphors of the demoscene, i doubt that anyone can comprehend it who doesnt know at all what the demoscene is. i also find it nice that a demo that is not commercially appealing won the hearts of the people who have been at the partyplace - i think the message was even stronger with all the ATI merchandise around for a contrast.

I don't know why I didn't thumb it up either

It's fucked up but it made me laugh, watched it twice too so it can't be bad :-)

One of the guys holding one of the old comps looks like one of the lecturers that taught me in college too, so for bringing back memories of my happy teenage years...

It rulez!

hey! -- although i fail to really enjoy it, still a very interesting case:: despite ganeral incoherence [lot of things quickly thrown together], winnerdemo flows smoothly and creates some kind of atmosphere // and the fact it won is nothing more than a good laught -- if visitors are voting for clowns, is BP turning circus now?:D

u-m, why 1st? (from breakpoint)

This is for a _long_ time the most entertaining, well designed and FRESH production so far. I like the scene sarcasm which actually 100% fits (pouet proves). I think it's not fun watching when you don't speak german, but even my gf likes it very much ;)

With this prod MV gained my all-time respect. wheenies. ;)

A demo with interesting effects (in the audience). ;)

I don't like their demos on C64 but this crap is really entertaining!

Funny stuff!

quite mediocre; plus the fact that most of us don't understand german. btw, why does the 3d run sooo slowly? Are you using glVertex3f or what??

As enjoyable as Hasselhoff singing. In german.

anytime i think i forgot that song, it silently shows up and crawls into my mind.

toxie: what, like over 1 million polys? =)

A warm demo.
I expecially enjoyed the circuit-board scene and the presence of photos and references to the democrew ppl. Enjoyable music also...

this is great! all demos should look like this :)
metalvotze don't stop!

in your face!

can any of you with pc make a video of this? we had a very big laugh at bgparty when totally drunk while watching this one on the "big-screen" :)

und noch'n Meter dazu!
The one PC prod I still remember from BP06

:|

d0DgE: Interesting, because this demo is from Breakpoint 2004. ;)

Really Funny one *g*

klassiker..

idiocy

Und noch 'n Meter dazu!

makes a laff

Nice Idea and cool lyrics :D ... better than all this crap TorusKnot and "0815 can't produce cool techno" demos on pouet here...

bollocks

i like it ;)

Sadly i was asleep that time.

Not my kind of winner demo... ):

no sir, I didn't like it

heeeeee... hooooo... heeee... hoooooooo! hilarious and refreshing. :)

FUN! =)))

LOL

peinlich, wie peinlich!!!

yay \o/

now that i've seen it, i must vote... ok, thumbs up :)

what a waste of good tune it was

I didn't like it, except the 3D stuffs & the song refrain.

<3

MM:
OMG you're right...well, slightly getting old... :/

lame effects but great soundtrack. why do have germans always to excuse for their language??? especially on a german demo party ?? what is so strange about the fact, that a german entry ruled the compo when it does directly address the audience??

i like this one, even if I think that Metalvotze usually suxx :)

Pretty ok, oh and another shiny c64 and slow 1541 disk drive.

Ah, forgot to thumb...
This is one of the few "funny demos" that are actually funny! I had a good laugh when I heard the lyrics for the first time :-)

So you has demo, which can beat all other demos.

Mann ist das Ding so geil, ich hab seit Jahren nicht mehr so gelacht.

Hammer, Hammer, Hammer.

auf einem auge bloed aber der erfolg gibt ihnen recht.

VIDEO please!!!! :) :)

Much as I want to gnaw my own leg off as punishment for saying this, I really like this one.

hmm

sehr gut getroffen. love

youtubeor other online link plz!!!!!

:))

Ohrwurm.!

it just simply rules :_)

nice joke prod but seriously, should have been ranked second.

We got teh computers that can beat your computers

I like this a lot more than yet another high quality but boring effect demo.

aha...great song! not great quaity but it has a nice feeling to it :D

Einmal Votze, immer Votze! I guess the complaining ones have no glue what a demo is all about. It's not always nice to see phong-shaded Torus or cubes in a demo. Fun and good ideas are more important in my opinion. This one was fresh in the content and has some serious good music going along with it. Even the name rocks, how hairy can your eggs be, naming your demo "winnerdemo" and win afterwards.

Maybe the language could be english, but after hearing "Rob is jarig" for ages... I guess a german Demo is the right answer to this crap ;)

Votze schreibt sich mit F!

this demo has everything

the popular winner demo ;-)

GEIL

.

Schwanzlänge 3,60m

for the LULZ

:)

Best Rap in a Demo ever. Instant laughs - worthy winner!

forgot to thumb this down

so ugly

This quote combination is very funny for Dutch people ^^

Also demo still owns, Metalvotze owns!

Nomen est omen :)

suckers!

Funny altough not technical!

metalvotze is teh win!

ieh-laid!

no.

worst demo ever.

The music rules

epic

it's SHIT but it's great! :>

so ugly, so good

meh

Even though it's somewhat fun, it's still ugly and a trollprod. Were it done a bit more tounge-in-cheek I could have settled for piggie.

Because this shit was sad for excellent demo, which got only second place on compo.

....................

really funny to re-read all the "controversy"...

sux

no, didn't like it. And music sucks.

oh mai o_Ô

naw

German rap ufff

This won? WTF

True winners always cause controversy.

Ok what the fuck is this shit, 1st place? WTF PPL.

Hm - never commented on this. There's an irritatingly catchy chorus ... the kind you WANT to forget, but simply can't. It's got that Rob is jahrig-thing to it. Still, the rest - even for a fun/ironic prod just doesn't make it.

eh jungs echt mal.
das meistgehasste prod on pouet?
das ding ist genial!

After ten years, a well-deserved thumb.

After ten years, a well-deserved thumb.



what keops said ten years ago :D

Thanks to compo organizers for the rule that a demo must quit immediately on Esc.

I hope that this get banished to some dark corner of the web.

This......................is......................UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still a must-have in every proper demoshow!

UND NOCH N METER DAZU!

I laughed, and in 2015 I can more easily ignore that something like this shouldn't win a compo...

If i could thumb down million times, i'd do it there.
Boring, ugly and no funny at all.
There was no more unfair thing than the fact that moppi never got 1st place at any party.
Asm2004 invitation, probably one of the best invitations of all times came second. This piece of shit, which may be the worst partywinner demo ever, came first.
I guess, this is the best proof that the god does not exist.

cheaters never win! :)

forgot thumb

The best demosong ever!!!

thumbs up for the chorus in the song

däs is ä glassigaa...!

lol great ;)

Fast 15 Jahre später, und noch ’n Meter dazu! Großartiger Soundtrack und ein Pouet-Thread vom allerfeinsten.

At least you tried :)

Not sure whats better, the demo or this thread. Und was Bombe sagt!

Ermm. Nope.

a classic

unfunny

hm

Such crap!

shame

lol

Those were the days! Today everything is just way too serious .. :P

A winner

still hate this

And yet, here we are 20 years later with lyrics of the soundtrack quoted on stage of Revision 2023 at the Prize Giving XD

Da wächst der Schaft!

The best PC demo at this party!

Jokes on nerdy people: nice story/plot. Execution however: very poor.

We have computers that can beat your computers. Enough said.

funny

Would probably have found it funny if i watched it 15 years ago when i was 15 years old.

I now think it's sexist crap.

True winners always cause controversy.

Teilweise lustig. Teilweise peinlich.

A fun glimpse at a kind of joke that was possible to make publicly 20 years ago and that I still enjoy very much today.

Can't be showing Schwänze*Innen now anymore obviously.

Pants down, for the clear Wiener!