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Renaissance by Byterapers [web]
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release date : august 2008
release party : Assembly 2008
compo : oldskool demo
ranked : 1st
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popularity : 67%
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added on the 2008-08-03 16:42:57 by phoenix phoenix

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added on the 2008-08-03 16:44:22 by panic panic
486 is pushing the "oldskool" limits a bit, but, it definitely has the right spirit. runs fine in dosbox. now we wait for byterapers by renaissance. :)
added on the 2008-08-03 16:47:25 by phoenix phoenix
This is not the final version (file size is too large in the uploaded release zip, expander crashes in the end, etc etc.). Fix coming up ASAP.
added on the 2008-08-03 16:48:16 by visy visy
The demo runs on 486DX50, MSDOS, 1990 hardware.

100% new code, nothing recycled. Interestingly the first Byterapers demo on PC came out for Pentium in 1996, so this demo's hardware is already 6 years older than our first PC demo.
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 16:48:37 by Grendel-B Grendel-B
And it actually doesn't run fine in dosbox, the scroller in the beginning bugs like hell :)
added on the 2008-08-03 16:48:51 by visy visy
Byterapers? Dos??? 486???????

SHIT! I must watch this. NOW.
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 16:52:34 by Optimus Optimus
a one big mess with some nice parts
added on the 2008-08-03 17:00:02 by tempest tempest
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 17:01:03 by aegis aegis
got some nice parts, now let's hope renaissance will do a demo called 'byterapers' :P (remember the komplex/doomsday thing?)
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 17:01:38 by post malone post malone
overally messy feeling and some horrible parts ruin this.
sucks added on the 2008-08-03 17:04:59 by raymon raymon
Some things made worse than in the past (water is bad, bump mapping is a bit ugly, tunnel is ok, voxel is ok) but at least there is a lot of things to see and the music is great. Inspires me to bring back my old 386 and try coding something there =)
added on the 2008-08-03 17:28:33 by Optimus Optimus
awesome music with some neat effects. other parts so-so, and the overall feeling is of a traditional effect show. Not sure if that was intended or not. Serves it's purpose anyways.
added on the 2008-08-03 17:33:29 by uncle-x uncle-x
uncle-x: yes, very intended. (see nfo).
added on the 2008-08-03 17:36:41 by visy visy
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 17:47:33 by Serpent Serpent
In my opinion, there really should be MIDSCHOOL compo. It could contain 486, 68060 and maybe other platforms which use software rendering.

486 is bit overkill for oldskool. And main compo is bit out of 68060 Amigas league nowadays, unless you are TBL. No wonder there aren't any AGA demos anymore at Assembly. And that's the most common demo platform on Amiga.

BTW. it also says that "PCs up to PC/386 (e.g. 80386/33MHz)" in oldskool compo rules... but then on the other hand it has date defined.
added on the 2008-08-03 17:52:19 by jPV jPV
yey for midschool!!!
added on the 2008-08-03 18:07:27 by Optimus Optimus
I definitely liked this on the stream.
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 18:10:04 by Alpha C Alpha C
Mikron: shaddupidotoogrumblegrumblegrumble
Loved it but... how can I get it running on DOSBox? Mine keeps crashing (0.72 tried both normal and dynamic cores).
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 19:12:29 by rc55 rc55
rc55: Configure your dosbox for 32 megs of memory. By default it's only 16, which is not enough for R. Note that there's some bugs when running in dosbox, which works 100% when running with real hardware. With dosbox, you can configure it to use 33000 cycles, that's the closest one for the real thing.

Hint: you can fast forward the demo by pressing "."
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 19:29:40 by mikron mikron
ehh.. i don't really like it.
added on the 2008-08-03 19:45:57 by superplek superplek
Some nice stuff and epic in a good way. The non-Amiga chick picture and some other scenes were pretty bad, though.
added on the 2008-08-03 21:21:33 by DiamonDie DiamonDie
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 22:17:47 by nosfe nosfe
My favourite from the compo - great oldschool vibe!

Had to smile at the Larry Laffer part- and the music is just AWESOME! Since I can't get it to run here at home would anybody be so kind and post some mp3-link???
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 22:57:04 by Stebo Stebo
Let me bitch a little about relentless self-voting, decade-old effects that they didn't bother making look good or interesting and pixel bitches with commodore tattoos (lulz).

So, it's not really bad or anything, but _maybe_ a fresh style and some new formulars (in the truest sense of the word) are urgently needed.. =)
sucks added on the 2008-08-03 23:17:04 by tomaes tomaes
I can't see it now, but it's amazing to have new DOS demo in 2008 and in memory of Renaissance and nice effects as I can see from screenshots! I will defenitly go tomorrow to my P166 and watch this demo!
rulez added on the 2008-08-04 00:09:13 by dimouse dimouse
Boinc Ball and Girl sticking a competition pro up her ass = "our demo sucks, but AAAAAAAMIIIIGAAAAAA".
In other words, technically and designwise it sucks, if it wasn't for the picture this demo would have gone unnoticed.
added on the 2008-08-04 00:19:26 by shock__ shock__
sucks added on the 2008-08-04 00:20:58 by shock__ shock__
rulez added on the 2008-08-04 08:26:48 by kyv kyv
I liked it. Been waiting for "oldskool" PEZE stuff for a while now. But 286/386 VGA would have been more oldskoolish. So Im not sure it deserved to win. But nice stuff...hope to see more in the future :)
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rulez added on the 2008-08-04 14:13:38 by tFt tFt
Well at least there were effects.. but these guys could do a lot better. Weak thumb up.
rulez added on the 2008-08-04 14:20:35 by break break
What tomaes said. The DOS aspect is all fine and dandy, but to be honest, I would've enjoyed this a lot more if it hadn't been a mishmash of things.
added on the 2008-08-04 16:01:14 by Preacher Preacher
It lacks ABBA samples
added on the 2008-08-04 20:23:29 by bruce bruce
greetings to visy!
rulez added on the 2008-08-04 20:44:50 by uns3en_ uns3en_
Mixed feelings here... some nice parts but then again it looks like a hasty mashup of old 90's routines. And that (B) legacy stuff is the worst sort of nostalgy in a long time :P
added on the 2008-08-05 15:30:51 by Marq Marq
oh, and it doesn't work on my PC (P166, GUS+SB, 48MB RAM) :( Crashes at the loader, I tryied everything but nothing helps. When fix will be out?
added on the 2008-08-05 17:45:56 by dimouse dimouse
Now that you mention this, I tested the demo under Dosbox, and it doesn't seem to work if Soundblaster is using 240. 220 works fine. I'll have to ask Nessie as he coded the music player.
added on the 2008-08-05 18:26:40 by visy visy
oldschool style at its best!
rulez added on the 2008-08-05 18:54:45 by Zest Zest
Ran fine on my Pentium 3 under DOS :)
added on the 2008-08-05 19:58:18 by Optimus Optimus
I don't know what version you guys use but the one I donwloaded from scene.org says "Exit to Error: Dyncore: Illegal option in opcode 0xff"
It doesn't matter what options I use, I even switched off emulation of sound.
I use Dosbox 0.72.
And probably the same problem with my real computer.
added on the 2008-08-05 20:21:24 by dimouse dimouse
sorry, 32MB is fixing it under DosBox, and also I remeber that on my old comp SB is indeed on 240:)

The demo is nice, but has many graphical artifacts under dosbox and effects are old. Humor was nice:)
added on the 2008-08-05 20:52:09 by dimouse dimouse
rulez added on the 2008-08-05 21:14:09 by bitl bitl
Just have to ask again: mp3, please???
added on the 2008-08-06 23:51:42 by Stebo Stebo
This current version is compo version. There is going to be proper release probably tomorrow or when we get most compatibility bugs fixed. Video and soundtrack is coming during next week.

And I personally think that this 1991 486 hardware IS oldskool hardware. Hey camoon, there is not enough bus speed to even draw image at full rate so all scrollers must be hardware based. No truecolor graphics modes so everything must be palette based. There was not even 16bit soundcards available for PC that time. So believe me, gap between pentium and 1991 486 is HUGE. Amiga was so much better demo platform at that time with stereo sound and very good graphical possibilities.
rulez added on the 2008-08-07 01:13:55 by Bera Bera
Great stuff! Runs fine in DOSBox here. Yeah oldschool stuff, this was a great revisit.
rulez added on the 2008-08-07 14:52:56 by d3pth d3pth
Bera thumbed his own production up, can somebody please thumb it down to compensate... Didn't see it before now.
added on the 2008-08-07 14:53:36 by d3pth d3pth
Any chance of a video? :)
added on the 2008-08-08 12:40:53 by rc55 rc55
nice msdos demo ;)
rulez added on the 2008-08-08 15:42:47 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna

You can fetch Renaissance video from there. We'll also release our own videoversion with stereo soundtrack in near future, as soon as PM finishes sountrack's stereo mix.
added on the 2008-08-09 16:05:10 by mikron mikron
Download link now points to final release. Minor bugfixes. Lot of new error messages. If you have problems with old version try this one. Now it supose to tell what is the problem instead of crash.
added on the 2008-08-13 17:16:12 by Bera Bera
DOS is still alive ! :)
And the zoomer rulez ...
rulez added on the 2008-08-13 21:17:26 by BiTbUsTeR BiTbUsTeR
Enough about the hardware, but the demo is a mishmash - there's no grip. What's up with the music...
added on the 2008-08-25 12:45:13 by zefyros zefyros
some of the effects were quite ok..
sucks added on the 2008-08-25 14:03:40 by psenough psenough
I like it.
rulez added on the 2008-08-25 14:43:00 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
Simply: No. This one sucks. Those messy C64 lookalikes ... the worse Amiga feeling... On a 468 HW... and so on....
Coding might be good but the theme is fully wrong... yikes
sucks added on the 2008-08-31 11:59:41 by emkay emkay
great demo, but with absolutely not fitting music
added on the 2008-08-31 12:20:06 by v3nom v3nom
rulez added on the 2008-09-20 17:07:33 by iks iks
The music didn't really fit to the demo and what's wrong with tracker format music? First tunnel effect was nice but the rest was pretty uninteresting.
added on the 2008-11-02 23:46:17 by gs gs
Thumbs up for oldskool Technicolor graphics and CINEMATIC soundtrack. We need more oldskool demos with majestic music like this!

rulezcdc added on the 2008-12-09 04:11:12 by Momo Vampire Momo Vampire
presentation font and music,
colorfull tunnel effect,
overlay of wave ripples,
fire effect,
water effect,
beautifull girl with joystick and Amiga ball,
caramel pig emboss effect, with light bumps shadowing,
Leisure Suit Larry 3D,
3 vertical rubber bands,
girl's back picture,
credits with moving texture patterns in the background,
"BR" logotype, 3D rotating, chrome textured 3Ds in the
end words music and font, scrolling upwards, nice meta raster rolls
rulez added on the 2008-12-25 10:36:59 by BITS BITS
EPIC. Compare this to masterpieces of early 90ies, made for similar hardware - they get nowhere near this.
rulez added on the 2008-12-27 22:09:27 by eye eye
rulez added on the 2009-01-19 01:33:19 by T$ T$
Fantastic music. I see no reason not to like this :)
rulez added on the 2009-01-19 01:58:50 by noby noby
PM's soundtrack is already enough of a reason to thumb this up.
rulez added on the 2009-03-11 22:17:18 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
hmm, i don't recall seeing this before.
(ok, i censored myself realizing that this is 486. still...)
i guess retro compo deserves retro code :)
direction is great, btw.
added on the 2009-03-12 03:19:18 by blala blala
Sorry guys, I can't thumb this up because it dwells in nostalgia too much.

And blabla: What the hell is a "retro compo"? Things like modern 8-bit demos seldom have anything to do with "retro".
@viznut: well, it's still blala (i cannot underestimate the number of people not able to read...), and well, "retro" is relative. But huhh, i'm drunk, i read 2008 automatically as 1998, and supposed it was some kind of 486 compo back then... Well, as of 2008, i can say that the code sucks donkey balls :))
added on the 2009-03-12 03:42:21 by blala blala
worth the thumb up!
rulez added on the 2009-04-22 21:30:22 by Dano Dano
worth the thumb up!
rulez added on the 2009-07-14 22:39:05 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
I was not impressed.
sucks added on the 2009-08-31 05:57:59 by neu / metoikos neu / metoikos
Excellent stuff! 08 they accepted 486 in oldskool compo? Or did i miss something?
rulez added on the 2010-05-15 19:02:46 by Rebb Rebb
ah, missed the hardware bitching earlier.
added on the 2010-05-15 19:39:12 by Rebb Rebb
Dieses Video wurde aufgrund eines Verstoßes gegen die Nutzungsbedingungen entfernt.
added on the 2010-05-15 19:42:21 by Exin Exin
me likes
rulez added on the 2010-05-15 19:46:02 by toxie toxie
Nice one, but I prefered the Amiga demos more in the compo.
rulez added on the 2010-10-21 22:50:45 by jack-3d jack-3d
Enough with the pixels! :D
rulez added on the 2010-10-21 23:30:40 by leGend leGend
this prod rulez
rulez added on the 2010-10-22 00:00:24 by alk alk
Nice demo that brings hope even to those cassette lamers!

Some parts are very ugly (that emboss pig) but others are supercool (leisure suit Larry in 3D).
rulez added on the 2011-08-26 08:48:21 by ham ham
YES! Totaly missed this one, nice demo!
rulez added on the 2014-09-23 22:47:19 by keito keito
Is okay, though some of the gfx are obviously "loaned" (e.g. Larry part) and possibly the end scroller font (I think a very similar font was used in Epic Pinball), though the latter may be from some PD source?
rulez added on the 2014-09-30 16:37:36 by ccr ccr
Btw, was that soundtrack ever released as a proper HQ/stereo mix? :D
added on the 2014-09-30 16:38:53 by ccr ccr
rulez added on the 2017-07-20 17:51:22 by nagz nagz
some nice parts in there, enough for a thumb up!
thumb for platform, nice stuff in there ..
rulez added on the 2018-05-30 22:59:19 by Asato Asato
Works great on my 486/100 with 32MB RAM
rulez added on the 2019-03-02 21:41:46 by misticjoe misticjoe
I was not impressed.

Can confirm
I forgot a thumb :(
sucks added on the 2020-02-12 11:19:38 by vitalkanev vitalkanev
pretty good for 486
rulez added on the 2020-10-21 13:51:16 by MuffinHop MuffinHop
some nice parts

really disliking the joystick pic.

the soundtrack is really good.
added on the 2023-11-28 17:50:28 by chavez chavez
Quite uneven quality. Some really nice parts and some not so nice ones. I don't really like the music either.
added on the 2023-11-29 17:07:35 by StingRay StingRay

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