Cognoscere by mfx [web]
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added on the 2009-04-13 10:27:30 by pommak ![]() |
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Utter crap. Follows all the cliches of a pretentious art demo for ultimate boredom.
sucks added on the 2009-04-13 10:36:29 by Wade ![Wade](https://content.pouet.net/avatars/atz2a.gif)
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Booring.
fArt
Good soundtrack. I'll reserve my thumb until I've seen the not-compressed-to-a-blurry-mess-on-the-party-stream version.
jesus, that was a boring shit production
felt like 30 minutes, was just too much
felt like 30 minutes, was just too much
boooring
fell asleep until the noise woke me up again :-)
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Good, why not?
i don't like noise much
looks like greyscale noise to me
I usually refrain from giving thumbs down, since I tend to go by the "I you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all"-philosophy.
However, in this case I must make an exception.
Considering that MFX has done some really great stuff in the past, I just don't get they should be going in this direction.'
Grey noise and non-existent soundtrack. WTF?
However, in this case I must make an exception.
Considering that MFX has done some really great stuff in the past, I just don't get they should be going in this direction.'
Grey noise and non-existent soundtrack. WTF?
Generally I don't like noise demos, this is no exception.
for me it is - sucked hell on the stream - but there was one effect I loved - so you got my thumb.
What the fuck was that?
noise
my daughter ran away saying that is scared of the computer. so..
i'm not on the right drugs for this demo atm
It started out really nice but got really dull from there. I'll probably need to rewatch it to give a proper opinion on it, but I sort of lean towards "mmmnnghnjnjrt"
i loved it
Ok, not the usual stuff from MFX, noise is also not my cup of tea (although it is interesting for some reasons) but somehow as tired as I was in the compo because of non sleep, it really much my state, it was hypnotic, I was sucked into something, I think the noise had some patterns of talk in it or maybe I hallucinated because of it, and then it has a nice surprise ending (reminds me of chimera).
piece of unbelievable crap. maybe next time, guys.
please, come back to your usual qualuty!
please, come back to your usual qualuty!
Too long, too boring, to little colour.
no
no no no
Especially the very first scene made me think this could be really good.
I had to find out that i was wrong, very wrong.
I had to find out that i was wrong, very wrong.
no..
thumb reservation for laters.
NO!
Some nice effects. Soundtrack was also good in some parts.
for making it the wordt stream experience I ever had!
worst...........
like it!
magic, you seriously expect demomakers to take into account whether something compresses well on a video stream when making a demo?
stijn, you seriouly expect me to like this demo when I watch the .exe ?
boooring
magic, no, but I do seriously expect you to comment on the DEMO then, and not on the stream quality ;)
I inexplicably loved this. It connected with me to the point where I can now hate most other noise demos with an open heart, because I know that those demos are trying to reach the level of this, and utterly failing.
sorry....
:(
Bring back the only demo art
Bring back for me only the old times
Bring back for me only the old times
your white hatred feeeeeeeeeeeeeeds me
good work pommak & co. nice to see some of the truly "oldskool" mfx style back after so many years. (i would thumb this up but won't, because of eventual flaming)
uncle-x: I'll don't thumb this down because I know this was art... But please tell me the meaning of this demo because I haven't understood this!
Was an idea of Dixan in memory of the "L'Aquila" earthquake?
Was an idea of Dixan in memory of the "L'Aquila" earthquake?
It's more like a complementary piece to their other big noise demo.
Wow, liked this a lot. Better than cannapaceus.
This was vastly horrible over the stream, but I'll reserve thumb and judgment for after I've seen it realtime.
F*CK YOU! This piece is pure terror!
Repeating the same thing sucks, just like it did with the Mullet Golems. Sorry guys.
no way
terror! i like.
pretty disappointing
go, take a vacation....
(you are not kosmoplovci)
(you are not kosmoplovci)
nice noise demo =) but what magic said first xDD
I totally liked the look and sound of it, except it could've been a lot shorter, maybe half the length. Whatever, a big thumb from me
Rrrr... found this horrible, sorry..
no. it was not nice to watch this in front of a giant HD screen! ...
Boring and too long.
This sucks big time for me...
video please
Well, fuck you right back! ...for 8 minutes! ;)
(a bit of cool patterny stuff hidden in there though)
(a bit of cool patterny stuff hidden in there though)
great piece! congratulations on successfully defending the colors :)
way too long.
<3
Hahahaha.
I cringed a bit while watching this but in the end I feel positive about it as a whole.
I cringed a bit while watching this but in the end I feel positive about it as a whole.
video please??
*hopeful*
*hopeful*
really liked it. i could do with 2 minutes shorter though, but it was still very nice. i like how agilo describes it, i had the same.
sorry .... but no.
i'm not a fan of noise productions, but i could have accepted this if it were only 2 or 3 minutes long.
but watching stuff like that for 8 or more minutes just is not possible without hard drugs
i'm not a fan of noise productions, but i could have accepted this if it were only 2 or 3 minutes long.
but watching stuff like that for 8 or more minutes just is not possible without hard drugs
Painful to watch. Sorry...
borring
pearls for pigs, again!
Got completely eaten by the stream, but watching it in realtime it wasn't so bad. Not my cup of tea though.
Ugly in most parts, the rest is boring.
i would have expected more noise
Both beautiful and haunting at the same time. Being too long? I don't think this demo would've affected on such a level it reaches now if it was shortened at all.
no comment...
no.
destroyed the compo (along most of the others demos as well)
I really dug this, sitting in front of the screen somewhat tired and boozed up.
long and boring
what melwyn said.
decreased the happy mood at the pc demo compo. too long.
I seriously love noise demos but come on guys, re-releasing what you have released at Stream 2008? ... I mean come ... ON!
i hate demos with no soundtrack.
Pointless
THIS IS AN EMPTY COMMENT
loved it
what melwin said, yeah
it said consume substances NOW
so I did.
man there is some trippy shit in this.
so I did.
man there is some trippy shit in this.
this felt so right at the party
I did not enjoy watching it at all, but some of the effects were nice.
best demo in the compo.
delivered once again.
thank you.
delivered once again.
thank you.
The beer I bought when this demo was shown tasted fine, thank you!
Way too long and slow to be enjoyable on any level. I appreciate the effort though.
I really like mfx prods and this is no exception. This is supposed to make you feel uncomfortable. It did just that.
![BB Image](http://baxpace.com/cognoscere.png)
ATI doesn't like your noise.
I might, though :(
i liked the first part, the middle was not sot interesting, and i think the end was good again. I have no hardware and video is pretty much meaningless here, so I must rely on my memories :)
In contrast to many other demos from the same compo I wasn't bored for a second.
Perfect for absorbing the visuals and sound and then letting your mind wander and see what comes out of this. Me really likes.
Perfect for absorbing the visuals and sound and then letting your mind wander and see what comes out of this. Me really likes.
i didn't knew if i should fall asleep or get angry during the compo..
I like uncle-x but I hate noise demos... if it's required to get the audience boozed up or drugged to watch a demo, it's not for me. And I happen to think that there are musicians out there worth to try out...
There were actually some interesting parts, but for most of the time, it was a pain.
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In contrast to many other demos from the same compo I wasn't bored for a second.
exactly. this is a really psychedelic demo. i loved it at the compo.
made feel uncomfortable during the compo
Sorry, but this is how it's done:
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=8569
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=10063
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=8569
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=10063
Really was too long and I was expecting a ruling demo after MFX's bp09 invitation demo.
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i didn't knew if i should fall asleep or get angry during the compo..
I like it.
What kb said.
i liked fx.
i like it.
i like it.
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yes
yes
What the hell is this? I tried to not fall asleep during the compo, and even tried to cross my eyes because I figured that then I would see some "magic eye" pictures. But I only saw grey noise.
I prefer other kind of demos.
I prefer other kind of demos.
surely NOPE !
It's prods like these that make me lose faith in the demoscene. I tried really hard to find SOMETHING to like about it. I couldn't.
sorry :'(
I just ignored everyone around me and was sinking into the bigscreen. It kinda worked for me.
hmm shader errors as someone already said.
Serious question, there is an antialias button in the setup dialog, should it be on or off for best effect?
Serious question, there is an antialias button in the setup dialog, should it be on or off for best effect?
pinza told me to just stare in the middle of the screen and then i deeped into my inner essence and i saw the truth that breakpoint is not about the demos at all, it's about the sunshine!
my honest review:
This demo (amongst few others) is why my faith in the demoscene gets stronger. It is clear that mfx wants to break the boundaries of aesthetics with this opera of computer generated noise. And they use everything in their arsenal to achieve a trully haunting experience.
The king is fully clothed. A demo I will be revisiting with envy.
This demo (amongst few others) is why my faith in the demoscene gets stronger. It is clear that mfx wants to break the boundaries of aesthetics with this opera of computer generated noise. And they use everything in their arsenal to achieve a trully haunting experience.
The king is fully clothed. A demo I will be revisiting with envy.
no comment
Navis: word!
i waited for the actual demo to start. unfortunately that never happened.
I like uncle-x, but I don't like this prod! What has happened to the mfx? You used to be so good! Give me back your usual quality! LONG and BORING! DESTROYED THE COMPO!
POINTLESS!
NO SOUNDTRACK!
I HATE NOISE DEMOS!
DISAPPOINTING!!!!!!
...
To be honest I haven't even seen it yet, but I'm going to thumb up all the excellent comments.
POINTLESS!
NO SOUNDTRACK!
I HATE NOISE DEMOS!
DISAPPOINTING!!!!!!
...
To be honest I haven't even seen it yet, but I'm going to thumb up all the excellent comments.
Sauli: Haven't seen it? Weren't you at Stream 2008?
actually many of the effects are really nice and are far more complex than they seem. non-existing music was not my cup of tea, but so what.
however, this piece was just way too long. really.
however, this piece was just way too long. really.
Yes
imho that was the best demo of its compo...
sound was a bit loud... >_>
sound was a bit loud... >_>
fcuk! plz, somebody give me a goddamn video with reasonable bitrate, so i could play it on 1.7mhz!
with love to everyone.
with love to everyone.
I felt like being held hostage remotely, by watching the stream.
Help !
Help !
video or ati version plz
brutal
makes my girlfriend depressive.... i like it :) yeah yeah more :)
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winers do not use drugs
SCHEISSE!
:)
The best demo at the compo by far.
That's why it's not for breakpoint.
That's why it's not for breakpoint.
effects with potential, but would need to be 10 times faster to be interresting. Felt like a waste of time.
love this one
the escape... isn't it? =)
srsly.
Severely underrated.
don't tell me you were thinking it would be good...
Some computers should stay off sometimes. Ugly !
imho MFX Productions got worse from release to release...
releasing this on a party, in such a lenght is totally asocial.
thanx you mfx for fucking up the democompo.
releasing this on a party, in such a lenght is totally asocial.
thanx you mfx for fucking up the democompo.
releasing this on a party, in such a lenght is totally asocial.
thanx you mfx for fucking up the democompo.
thanx you mfx for fucking up the democompo.
What a fantastic piece of art this is. The bad reviews are only natural...people are used to the conventional language of 3d, textures, lighting, and easily recognizable ambients. This goes beyond...far beyond that. Mfx superb work, keep them coming! Greets
Nice, cannapaceus style :)
ok ok i know what you are trying to do. i am an artist too. and if you are sitting on the toilet and looking at the marble floor suddenly you begin to see things in the patterns. ok. i know that. but i think it was too long. barely you get a thumb up for this. its doubtless art. but i think bp isnt the right place for releasing this kind of prods.
what they was trying to do ? cosmicollie
its nothing about random that generate forms for me.
its nothing about random that generate forms for me.
Disturbing but fascinating hypnotizing.
i don't know...
hmm...
Trippy. I really love the first part: this gives me the sensation of leaving earth...
nice effects but i won't watch this twice
i watched this beauty several times, still loved every second of it!
I really enjoyed it. Watching patterns emerge from the apparent noise was quite captivating.
I liked it
Hey was a girl meant to climb out of a well and come through my screen in the middle of this? She won't go back into the screen now.
Can't connect to the HQ video host :(
I was told that after I'd watched this, I'd understand what the 'true inner beauty' in demos is. Apparently I didn't, because it made me feel that whoever made this must have spent his/her childhood hiding in the cupboard avoiding not to get beaten up by his/her dad. There is something morbid here, but the beauty is missing - sorry.
Yes we will again have the HQ vid server online. Fuckings to ASUS who did not ship the RMA'd power supply for 3 weeks. "24 hour replacement" my ASS. For a freaking POWER SUPPLY?
I'll admit when I first saw this, I was disappointed, partially because most of the BP08 demos were less than expected, and partially because MFX are favourites of mine, and this looked like a rehash of Cannapaceus.
But giving both this and its brother-/sister-demo a second chance made them both grow on me. Good stuff, and I'm always happy to see someone try something new. Trippy and exciting.
But giving both this and its brother-/sister-demo a second chance made them both grow on me. Good stuff, and I'm always happy to see someone try something new. Trippy and exciting.
I usually really like mfx' demos, but this really wrecked the compo.
As an aside: I find it ridiculous that people comment on how "inappropriate" the demo was for the compo. If it ruined your buzz or whatever, sit at home and drink beer instead. I really don´t see how your hippie happy go lucky attitude to parties should come before people trying to present a creative work of art. Whether you like it or not, you should at least have the wits to respect it.
I think this prod works as piece of art, it's interesting and nice to watch. But it doesn't work as a demo. The problem is, probably, demoscene != art
iq: I completely disagree. demoscene IS art. it's a way of self expression and is done for the pleasure of ourselves without any idea of merchantability not even the implie... ahem I mean it IS art, or so I think at least.
mission accomplished!
you can sell shit as art
you can sell shit as art
<rant. Prefix everything with "I think">
The demoscene has a lot in common with hiphop. They are both competitive by nature (battling), and skills are an essential part of this. As such, the scene is a sort of sport. But it is obviously in the realm of aesthetics, which is a lot more difficult to quantify , or rate, if you like. I don't know where this prod would be because I have no idea what kind of technical effort went into it beyond what Nosfe(?) commented somewhere. To demand that every demo has the same focus on technical aspects and demanding they all have the same type of aesthetic seems equally misguided to me. I think this is approximating art, if nothing else because it ventures well outside of the norm of scene aesthetics. Why would one want to narrow the scene down to standard formulas? Either way you look at it, a failed, or less than successful, experiment is more valuable than a rehash.
</rant>
The demoscene has a lot in common with hiphop. They are both competitive by nature (battling), and skills are an essential part of this. As such, the scene is a sort of sport. But it is obviously in the realm of aesthetics, which is a lot more difficult to quantify , or rate, if you like. I don't know where this prod would be because I have no idea what kind of technical effort went into it beyond what Nosfe(?) commented somewhere. To demand that every demo has the same focus on technical aspects and demanding they all have the same type of aesthetic seems equally misguided to me. I think this is approximating art, if nothing else because it ventures well outside of the norm of scene aesthetics. Why would one want to narrow the scene down to standard formulas? Either way you look at it, a failed, or less than successful, experiment is more valuable than a rehash.
</rant>
abstract
I usually don't thumb down, but this was so bad in so many areas that I need to.
Its canna2 but is it better? Maybe no.. but its good nevertheless! (The less? wut...)
By FAR the best of the PC compo.
Even though it is made for the wrong hardware and operation system, this is simply another dimension and deserves to be commented. Respect.
Even though it is made for the wrong hardware and operation system, this is simply another dimension and deserves to be commented. Respect.
A very atmospheric demo : you get totally sucked into a world of crap and lousy artistic vision. So shit it instantly added value to the competition at the party.
I guess this is a 'love it or hate it' demo. thumbs up!
Not really as profound or meaningful as cannapaceus, but fantastic still. I think the visuals here actually are better for the most part, but there doesn't seem to be too much of an underlying idea, or maybe I just can't find it. The soundtrack isn't as cohesive either as on canna, which might be a reason why the concept doesn't work here as well as on the first incarnation. In any case, I'd revert the direction of my thumb if I could.
noise
yes, exactly
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