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From QuakeCon 2011 Keynote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zgYG-_ha28&feature=player_detailpage#t=4827s

bah somehow a space went in to the url. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zgYG-_ha28&feature=player_detailpage#t=4827s

Carmack 64k next breakpoint!

and meanwhile, the 64k compo at assembly gets cancelled..

...while most of the attendees are actually playing Quake...the relationships in this are beginning to get eerie.

Rage 64k

@John Carmack:

Make a 64k prod! I dare you, I double dare you John Carmack.

I did a chart based on the decreasing trend in 64kb yearly releases which predicted the incoming death of the 64kb category... I should try with updated data and see what the prediction looks like nowadays :)

Why is 64k dying?

Defiance: because doing an awesome 64k means that you have to do an awesome demo, AND you have to develop the tools for creating the content as well...

Thanks for starting the YT at 4827 seconds...

defiance: because sceners grew old, got a life and a job and dedicate the little spare time they have to make decent demos instead of ugly intros :) (seriously, puryx answer makes a better point)

conclusion is that probably both aspects are correct... on the technical aspect its harder to create a 64k intro, and on the real life + little time aspect yeah its better to make a decent demo rather than a shitty intro, leading people away from the 64k category.

defiance: thank you for repeating the two answers you got. :)

probably 64kb intro will have a comeback when we grow even older and are retired from work and our kids spread there wings outside moms and dads home ;-)

gloom: yeah seems i reached a repeated conclusion :)

defiance: i think there's two sides to the story, for starters it's better to make a good demo than a crappy intro in the little free time you have left, and also it is harder to create a 64ktro that doesn't scare ppl from competing in that category. does that answer your question?

havoc: yes, plus it is easier for starters to hide behind the demo category, if their demo is total crap, whereas in 64k it isn't, since people will be more demanding, leading to 10x more negative attitude towards the intro.

Because people who enjoy sizecoding have moved to 4k

There's just too much expectation when you're doing a 64k intro these days, because you can do so much.

I still do intro :(

I think what he said about oldschool platforms was also interesting. He should take a look at the scene, it's pretty much exactly what he was talking about. The people playing with 2600s to learn and appreciate working under hefty constraints are right here doing awesome shit.

Defiance: Nonsense! The 64ks are dying 'cause most coders are lazy!

rez: I still do intro too. ;)

3 Letter Nick brigade unite and make an intro about it.