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Rainmaker by Byterapers [web] & Doomsday
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screenshot added by mikron on 2024-04-01 02:47:58
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release date : april 2024
release party : Revision 2024
compo : pc demo
ranked : 1st
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popularity : 68%
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alltime top: #1568
added on the 2024-04-01 02:47:58 by mikron mikron

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Awesome demo in every way!!
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 02:48:59 by mayday mayday
Definitely among the best demos of the year so far
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 03:59:37 by Pete Pete
Stunning!
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 07:08:22 by Olympian Olympian
Mindblowing!
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 08:17:02 by Mystra Mystra
A visual feast!
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 09:09:59 by rloaderro rloaderro
Wonderful stuff!
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 09:41:09 by raztaman raztaman
Loved every bit of it, really nice work <3
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 10:19:52 by moraff moraff
Massive demo pr0n! Fits to my taste perfectly!
added on the 2024-04-01 10:30:24 by Bobic Bobic
Looks good.
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 10:32:37 by jimmi jimmi
stuning atmosphere and visuals!
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 10:35:19 by roudoudou roudoudou
Massive production values but lost me somewhere along the way.
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 10:38:54 by Preacher Preacher
solid, but visibly NOX-defined by its own design limits
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 11:18:28 by hollowone hollowone
Mostly very good visuals (both colors and shapes). I especially like the Rorschach-inspired part close to the beginning of the demo.
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 12:38:32 by Adok Adok
Incredibly polished, really liked the track too!
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 12:45:45 by gloom gloom
Although perfectly polished this leaves not much impression on me, because it’s just disjointed scenes. Soundtrack rules oc.
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 12:52:42 by gaspode gaspode
My favourite from the compo. Visually stunning, fast cuts and a great soundtrack! Best (B) DSD demo in over two decades.
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 12:59:38 by chavez chavez
Awesome job guys! Congrats on winning the PC-democompo!
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 13:23:52 by dice dice
disjointed collection of Notch stuff, plus because of that disjointedness it looked like a bunch of Notch tutorials or example projects glued together or something
what maali said but i like that kind of warm flow down the backside of the pants
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 13:47:14 by havoc havoc
Great demo
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 14:27:35 by bitl bitl
Nice realtime animation!
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 14:32:28 by prost prost
some of this is uber-awesome, especially the beginning and the humming bird, hands down super cool! the whole thing seemed a bit messy though, it could've been two seperate demos, but nevermind my opinion, crazy cool stuff!
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 17:02:10 by orange orange
Agree w Maali. A stuttering disjointed Notch prod.
added on the 2024-04-01 17:56:03 by java java
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what maali said but i like that kind of warm flow down the backside of the pants
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 18:49:38 by SiR SiR
Maali said it best, but this was still very entertaining. The crazy soundtrack helps a lot. I just wish there was even a tiny hint of coherence in the visuals.
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 18:52:49 by break break
Even if those particle systems in some scenes are now around for some time, it's just such an awesome product and awesome good looking. Definietely the winner demo!
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 18:57:24 by Kuemmel Kuemmel
Yup, that's a winner demo
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 19:07:37 by Corial Corial
Polished
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 19:12:47 by prm prm
I watched this now and thought “there's nothing original here and it's a bit uneven, but wow, that's a fucking good renderer”. Then I realized, oh wow, perhaps it's not their own renderer.
added on the 2024-04-01 20:13:42 by Sesse Sesse
...and why, exactly, this requires more than 6 gb of vram?
this is not demoscene anymore...
added on the 2024-04-01 20:26:43 by SubV242 SubV242
I like it, several scenes, some classic stuff, some great effects, good music.
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 21:47:20 by Chainsaw Chainsaw
Great visuals but 1GB download? jeez... that hurts!
added on the 2024-04-01 22:20:37 by spiryt spiryt
Demotool click click.
added on the 2024-04-01 22:34:59 by arm1n arm1n
the incoherent scenes are a strength here. combined with the weird soundtrack, it's simply a great ride.
rulez added on the 2024-04-01 23:09:58 by a-move a-move
Started off really promising, felt somewhat disjointed and kinda cookie-cutter-notch-demo, though I can’t really put my finger on why.

I know ny’all could build something kickass with Notch, the idea and feeling is there, now get some better glue :3
added on the 2024-04-01 23:45:47 by lynn lynn
I really don't get the hate because of a big download. If you don't like it, there are size limited categories you can watch instead (I say that as a sizecoder).

I also don't get the hate because of Notch. Sure, I won't give extra credits for the rendering, but the visual design in scene after scene is just excellent. Detailed, vibrant, dynamic, dramatic. The cityscape was shown for too long and detracts a bit from the pure effects showcase that the rest of the demo is. But that's a minor nitpick.
rulez added on the 2024-04-02 04:05:42 by algorias algorias
Top notch high end stuff!
rulez added on the 2024-04-02 09:58:53 by 71M 71M
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Great visuals but 1GB download? jeez... that hurts!
Demo size is actually "only" half of that, there's 2 versions inside the zip, the other one is for capped GPU ram option.
added on the 2024-04-02 10:27:01 by mikron mikron
It stood above competition. Good to see good ol' Fins on German soil :D Disjointed? Might be. Kick ass? For sure, and that's me convinced.
rulez added on the 2024-04-02 10:36:06 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
Remember to check the "making of" document : )
added on the 2024-04-02 10:46:58 by mikron mikron
I am impressed of the density. So many cool effects and ideas. And the soundtrack kicks like hell.
rulez added on the 2024-04-02 11:14:28 by nodepond nodepond
Great to see Doomsday winning again :)
rulez added on the 2024-04-02 11:31:17 by illusion illusion
Massive prod!
Scenes feel disconnected from time to time but I works great anyway :)
rulez added on the 2024-04-02 20:21:19 by Anat Anat
Notch put to good use.
The weakest part of the prod is the city geometry.
The part I prefer is the design of the final screen.
rulez added on the 2024-04-03 01:36:48 by Zavie Zavie
this is at the brink of effects overload :)
great stuff
rulez added on the 2024-04-03 09:31:53 by gopher gopher
Great
rulez added on the 2024-04-03 12:34:12 by Frequent Frequent
Feels a bit forgettable.. Like said above. But there are some nice elements around
rulez added on the 2024-04-03 14:41:33 by anticore anticore
I'm starting to have conflicting feeling about so many top demos that don't require any programming at all. Like maybe programming demos should be one category, and Notch/AE/Blender/etc/etc demos should be another?

Still, this one looks cool, obviously lots of effort involved and it was a blast to watch, so a thumbs up.
rulez added on the 2024-04-03 17:47:22 by Byproduct Byproduct
A lot of great stuff. Disjointed? People have perhaps come to expect too much uniformity. Demos can be eclectic collections.
rulez added on the 2024-04-03 22:24:59 by DrTerrorZ DrTerrorZ
Sorry but no. This is beautiful but doesn't really tell something. Let MFX be the winner :)
added on the 2024-04-03 23:12:09 by oxb oxb
Daym
rulez added on the 2024-04-04 10:38:58 by Steel Steel
fark yeah \o/
rulez added on the 2024-04-05 07:49:37 by hornet hornet
some awesome scenes, but the whole thing too messy
rulez added on the 2024-04-05 08:19:55 by wullon wullon
Good to see a Doomsday demo again!
Loved the effects, only the city didn't really work for me.
rulez added on the 2024-04-05 14:10:52 by hfr hfr
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Good to see a Doomsday demo again!


Yea even if there was only one (Wode) but it didnt felt right to call this prod (B) only since Wode has been there with us since the 90s (my teeenhood friend). But after tonights Wideload twins birthday party I maybe got Razorback/DSD also back for the next project! Sadly Dice/DSD doesn't warm up on my suggestions :/
added on the 2024-04-07 03:28:39 by mikron mikron
If only somebody could cast a spell that would rise MRI and Doom from their crypts.... or Mr.Sex.
added on the 2024-04-07 03:30:05 by mikron mikron
Thumbs up for the comeback !
Good luck to your coders for raising the bar after a Notch powered demo, it will require extreme dedication.
rulez added on the 2024-04-08 14:08:23 by guille^cocoon guille^cocoon
Hecking amazing!
rulez added on the 2024-04-08 20:36:30 by SnC SnC
Decent. :)
added on the 2024-04-09 01:20:08 by AntDude AntDude
Well... it's extremely incoherent, and the music is pretty unmusical. Still there are a few effects in here I really liked, so weak thumbup it is.
rulez added on the 2024-04-09 22:14:46 by Nosferatu Nosferatu
Listen, this is clearly good. Banging soundtrack, effects that make the GPU sweat profusely, throw in some cyberpunk/bladerunner, what more do you want?

Yet... meh. Thing is, as much as I don't try to judge anyone for their engine choice, the simple truth is that if you're using something like Notch, the focus shifts away from _how_ you did something, towards _what_ you did with it. And that's sadly really incoherent and hard to make sense of. And somehow that soundtrack lost 50% of its promised bang in the mix somewhere.

So a piggy it is.
added on the 2024-04-10 22:59:53 by kb_ kb_
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Thing is, as much as I don't try to judge anyone for their engine choice, the simple truth is that if you're using something like Notch, the focus shifts away from _how_ you did something, towards _what_ you did with it.

Weirdly a piggy comment that I can agree with. This makes us work harder for the next one :)
added on the 2024-04-11 08:39:14 by Mysdee Mysdee
It's good but for me it misses some progression - I can only compare it to the big demo from Orange at Assembly 2018 (dying stars), which had that - plus a more amazing soundtrack.

Maybe without the notch effects "Rainmaker" would be an empty shell. Or not. Cannot really tell where the polish begins to affect the end result to that extent.
rulez added on the 2024-04-11 10:05:39 by Navis Navis
nice "demo" demo!
rulez added on the 2024-04-12 15:04:36 by v3nom v3nom
The shiny black donut inside a glass voronoi-fractured glass shell is what redeemed this demo for me. Always put something cool at the end :)
rulez added on the 2024-04-13 13:53:28 by cce cce
there's an irony that 3 people are credited for flow, but that's exactly what this thing lacks :D
Sublime!
rulez added on the 2024-04-13 16:29:25 by Defiance Defiance
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there's an irony that 3 people are credited for flow, but that's exactly what this thing lacks :D

I feel you, bit like being credited for graphics in Sceon 😉
added on the 2024-04-14 13:40:20 by Mysdee Mysdee
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I feel you, bit like being credited for graphics in Sceon 😉

dunno what you're trying to say here with the ad hominem. other than perhaps that 'graphics' is a bit of a misnomer as i did all the 3D and overlays/textures. i surely wasn't responsible for its flow though!
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dunno what you're trying to say here with the ad hominem.

Oh, apologies for not communicating clear enough. You arrived to shit on our production for second time. I picked up your turd and rubbed it in your face.
You did not like Rainmaker. Many didn’t. As per design it was incoherent mess of effects, that’s all we could manage for Revision. To our surprise and delight we got votes.
We did put effort on flow, syncs etc, I am sorry you do not see that. Coming back and questioning the credits though, that’s disruspectful. Go away now.
added on the 2024-04-14 18:16:18 by Mysdee Mysdee
in that case, i forgot my thumb
sucks added on the 2024-04-14 18:58:43 by post malone post malone
I think kb nailed it. Obviously good, but maybe not great.
added on the 2024-04-16 11:39:17 by kusma kusma
Great visuals, a lot of content.
It would be better release 2 versions in separate zip archives – 900 Mb is way too much in terms of quality/size ratio.
rulez added on the 2024-04-17 14:16:56 by Manwe Manwe
Pum! A high-energy demo. Quite entertaining.
rulez added on the 2024-04-17 19:38:51 by lancel lancel
Beautiful and "oldskool" demo crafting.
rulez added on the 2024-04-17 20:30:51 by cerror cerror
There's some dope stuff in there - that credits/endscene is bang on - but some of it (a lot of it) is just below-average content (oh god the 3D scenepoetry oh god) with Notch tech thrown at it, which just doesn't work.

It's strange because you'd think a prod that's done by so many designers (supposedly) would have more eyecandy, but it's just not working - this is the kind of prod where unfortunately everything has to be bang on - font choices, amount of DOF, color progression, editing - and it's just... not there. It also feels like the music was just thrown at it last minute.

It makes me a bit sad because it really is the style of prod we should _aspire_ to be making, which is why I feel so conflicted about it, but it's just _not there_.
added on the 2024-04-22 01:36:07 by Gargaj Gargaj
Forgive me Gargaj my good friend (that ruin pub tour rules btw), there is a LOT of skill still missing there, but have some faith, this is our 1st try on modern PC after long era of DOS and C64 demos (except few HiRMU prods and one bad webgl demo). Old is not dead and we're learning as we go. Result was totally unexcepted, before the compo we hoped for top5 and after the compo we're gunning for top3. End result surprised us all but also many of the big gunts (spectrals, cncd-flt, cocoon) were MIA. I agree the coherence not being there and that end effect was one of the 1st we nailed to the timeline. One must start (again) from somewhere : )
added on the 2024-04-28 02:46:19 by mikron mikron
For us both B and DSD guys this was production of friendship and "lets do something together instead just drinking" and it teched a lot. We'll do this again. I can't promise delivery date but most def there will be more from this crew, and it's going to be a) different b) hopefully better.
added on the 2024-04-28 02:49:51 by mikron mikron
the opening was a great buildup but then it kinda fails to keep the promise. i liked the scene with the dude walking towards the mountain, the rainy city with the nice dof, the city/circuit board scene and the colibri. besides that everything looks and feels bland since it has been seen more than once in a similar fashion. the problem is that there is a very high bar from the past.

but the font is really horrendous and one can't sugar coat that for anyone. maybe some reflection/color or whatever might have covered it up but it looks cheap and not fitting to the rest of the demo and escpecially in the greets part.

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To our surprise and delight we got votes.
We did put effort on flow, syncs etc, I am sorry you do not see that

welcome to the ( mostly? :D ) sober world of opinions far away from ( partially ) drunken party votes :) it's a nice prod that fits a party and its atmosphere (which is a good thing) but not a demo to remember. oink oink.
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it's a nice prod that fits a party and its atmosphere (which is a good thing) but not a demo to remember.


That was the goal 100% we didn't except anything else nor more. Music, the rhythm of parts and buildup in the end was done by audience at German demoparty in mind. No guilt there.
added on the 2024-05-09 02:46:07 by mikron mikron
Didn't like the parts with too much visual noise because it's always boring to watch something like that but the rest was great.
rulez added on the 2024-05-27 23:24:58 by dex46... dex46...

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