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Entropy by Epoch [web]
screenshot added by noby on 2014-08-02 22:37:19
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release date : august 2014
release party : Assembly 2014
compo : combined demo
ranked : 7th
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popularity : 66%
  • 0.67
  • 2
alltime top: #2176
  • sainigma sainigma [3D]
  • sm sm [Code, design, direction]
  • Dysposin Dysposin [Graphics, additional tool code]
  • noby noby [Music, direction, additional code]
added on the 2014-08-02 22:37:19 by noby noby

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Thumbs up for the first part. The second part was kind of, well, unnecessary. Sure people might complain of a potential build-up that doesn't go anywhere, but ambient demos have done well in the past. I just didn't need the flashy assault to my eyes.

That aside, if you're going to letterbox the demo to get the aspect you want, is there any reason you can't offer the user's actual resolution as an option in the launcher then? (Yes, I know it doesn't matter as much if you pick the largest size option still under your resolution and then the full screen option, but it's the principle of it!)
rulez added on the 2014-08-02 23:04:08 by Starchaser Starchaser
Noise, fog and glow doesn't work for me
sucks added on the 2014-08-02 23:11:29 by Bobic Bobic
My favourite. Great.
rulez added on the 2014-08-02 23:52:12 by ham ham
Great tension, and built up! The resolution (mood / script wise) can't keep up and i kind of agree to Starchaser, but still clear thumb up.
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 00:10:57 by HellMood HellMood
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 00:28:53 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
It was cool, and then after the drop it was awesome.
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 01:05:05 by fizzer fizzer
I'm a bit torn on this. I think the first part was plain out too long, but the second part helped the overall impression. I don't normally like ambient soft-noise demos, but this wasn't the worst I've seen in the genre. Overall it's a piggie for me.
added on the 2014-08-03 01:06:36 by Sesse Sesse
Second part was absolutely necessary, seemed like it needed something more, though. It just died at the end, there was no closure.
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 01:19:41 by Claw Claw
Loved this one, second part included.
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 07:09:41 by dixan dixan
very nice!
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 07:47:20 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Love it altho build up could be a tiny bit shortened, everything after the drop is pure awesomeness.
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 10:06:59 by Nitro/Black Sun Nitro/Black Sun
My favourite horror demo.
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 11:01:33 by cce cce
what Starchaser said
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 11:37:15 by comankh comankh
Great stuff, and a bit what Insectecutor said.
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 11:55:07 by Serpent Serpent
a little boring at the beginning. the harsh transition was "woow" and saved it !
added on the 2014-08-03 11:57:39 by Virgill Virgill
Loved the build-up, loved the drop.
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 13:00:37 by jasuy jasuy
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 13:31:53 by aha aha
not bad, but somewhat boring. And drop was cheesy and completely unnecessary. The few seconds just before the drop was the best part, should have ended there.
added on the 2014-08-03 14:18:44 by blala blala
I wasn't all too thrilled to begin with, but I have to disagree with the ending. It was totally uncalled for.
added on the 2014-08-03 14:24:28 by Trilkk Trilkk
Great work guys! I think that some parts are a bit too long, but the particles looked nice and the drop was awesome. I'm surprised that this didn't win any prices :o
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 14:40:00 by firebug firebug
I'm not quite sure what to think about the drop/"twist" at the end. Could've possibly worked better without it, or with a different kind of pacing.. That said, the atmosphere and soundtrack are pretty sweet. All in all easily thumb-uppable stuff, Epoch is clearly a name to watch for in the near future.
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 15:03:48 by break break
Thumb down for using the same visual style after the drop.
Otherwise this could have been someting.

I really liked the particles and the color so thumb up for that.
Music was nice as well but the pace isn't correct.
Piggie because of the effort.

Also what Trilkk said.
added on the 2014-08-03 15:11:50 by numtek numtek
My favorite in the compo. Love the ambience and the effects. The drop could've been done more intensive, but that's a minor gripe. More of this, please!
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 16:51:07 by Preacher Preacher
i love the twist in this but i think the buildup is really too slow here.
especially the last "ambient" scene before the beats kick in is way too long.
also the second part could have used more glitchiness to accomodate the music.
oh well, its still a solid prod - have my thumb
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 19:08:33 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
the drop may be cheesy but the whole thing totally worked for me. Very memorable & great job on all the departments.

I wish the end was a bit less abrupt.

Overall: fuck yeah!
rulezcdc added on the 2014-08-03 19:36:27 by wullon wullon
Umm uh..
added on the 2014-08-03 19:59:39 by Emod Emod
Way too much force to squeeze some sinister atmosphere out of some unfit and daft effects. Like something that really wants to be edgy and mysterious, but ends up being cheesy and annoying.
sucks added on the 2014-08-03 20:33:00 by tomaes tomaes
yeah good demo. only complaint is that the buildup didnt feel like a buildup therefore the first few minutes you are wondering why it's a bit boring. then when the demo ends, you get the concept :)
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 20:39:00 by post malone post malone
added on the 2014-08-03 20:41:03 by Pico Pico
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 22:42:16 by l_n l_n
I was kind of disappointed.. until I started loving it!
rulez added on the 2014-08-03 23:21:32 by msqrt msqrt
Winner demo. Should have won.
rulez added on the 2014-08-04 01:04:25 by neoman neoman
second part totally saved for me. fuck YEAH. BAM. RIGHT IN YOUR FACE.
First part before the twist bored me a bit, maybe next time more direct action :D
rulez added on the 2014-08-04 02:02:09 by las las
(this should have been a total blast on the ASM screen+audio)
added on the 2014-08-04 09:20:16 by wullon wullon
I get this weird blocky noise overlay throughout the whole demo and it doesn't seem to be present on the Youtube capture.
added on the 2014-08-04 14:06:20 by Gargaj Gargaj
Gargaj: How blocky (picture)? There is a simulated "grain" post processing but it shouldn't be blocky. It's same as in our first demo though I think we left it a tad too strong to the final build. It isn't too visible on tube due to compression.
added on the 2014-08-04 14:13:06 by noby noby
very good demo indeed. second part HAS to be there.
rulez added on the 2014-08-04 18:32:56 by nytrik nytrik
noby: like so
added on the 2014-08-04 18:44:42 by Gargaj Gargaj
I'm sorry, but intro's sound is epic... and nothing else.
sucks added on the 2014-08-04 19:28:16 by bermudatatooine bermudatatooine
rulez added on the 2014-08-05 12:11:52 by Manwe Manwe
Fucking great! Super intense build up, and I was 100% ready for disappointment after "the drop".. but was I disappointed? Fuck no!

Favourite prod from asm so far :D
rulez added on the 2014-08-05 15:43:05 by psonice psonice
What Gargaj said, only with even bigger blocks than in his screenshot - cannot really see anything behind that blocky noise.
cdc added on the 2014-08-05 17:36:22 by Kylearan Kylearan
nice ambience before drop.
rulez added on the 2014-08-05 17:59:52 by kimi kardashian kimi kardashian
Not bad, but somehow didn't really work for me
added on the 2014-08-05 18:47:26 by Triace Triace
Not that surprised it didn't rank higher but it was amongst the top 3 in *my* book!
rulez added on the 2014-08-05 19:17:09 by Korvkiosken Korvkiosken
Nice and what preacher said!
rulez added on the 2014-08-07 00:12:53 by RufUsul RufUsul
Here's a thumb up based on the YouTube video. I love this! Great soundscape, visuals, pacing, direction, atmosphere, ...everything!

Any chance of a fixed final that runs without the blocky noise? I don't want to spend a CDC on the YouTube video alone...
rulez added on the 2014-08-07 20:52:39 by Kylearan Kylearan
Exactly the opposite of what Virgill said :). Better than Variform2.... although that doesn't take much.
added on the 2014-08-10 10:56:50 by CONS CONS
there is a bug that prevent to watch me this thing : instead of blue smoke effect i get lot of small white squares blinking everywhere (first i believe it was part of the demo, but after a few seconds realize something was wrong)
added on the 2014-08-10 21:29:09 by Tigrou Tigrou
Tigrou: Yeah it's been reported. Could you provide your gpu/etc, we might look into fixing it (though it's one of sm's least favorite endavours :))? Meanwhile if you have the patience: video
added on the 2014-08-10 21:35:23 by noby noby
rulez added on the 2014-08-14 23:35:00 by Anelka Anelka
wow, the first part is really cool. esp. the soundtrack, which creates an intense atmosphere. unfortunately, the second part nearly destroys the overall impression.
rulez added on the 2014-08-15 00:24:13 by a-move a-move
Gaspar Noe in a nutshell.
rulez added on the 2014-08-15 19:27:16 by rp rp
Nice buildup, but the climax was a bit downer, so piggie from me.
added on the 2014-08-16 13:21:21 by Frequent Frequent
Nice ambient demo.
rulez added on the 2014-08-25 15:23:02 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
the first part is awesome and everything would be splended if it had ended after that part!
added on the 2014-08-29 22:32:37 by Proteque Proteque
Great ambient demo :)
rulez added on the 2014-08-31 17:59:43 by zerothehero zerothehero
There's some above average editing / composition here, but I'm ambivalent about the "drop" to be honest. Felt a bit "tacked on".
rulez added on the 2014-08-31 20:42:14 by Gargaj Gargaj
I've seen the bugfixed version instead of YouTube only now, and I still love it. Worth a CDC.
added on the 2014-08-31 20:46:31 by Kylearan Kylearan
rulez added on the 2014-08-31 21:19:29 by SiR SiR
rulez added on the 2014-08-31 23:44:04 by T$ T$
rulez added on the 2014-09-23 03:15:30 by MuffinHop MuffinHop
Nice ambience and particle effects. Really bold choice to go mental at the end like that but it's cool, kinda like watching a movie that has an unexpected plot twist.
rulez added on the 2015-11-27 18:34:33 by drift drift
In preacher-style I could shed some backstory on this. If it's not clear what this demo is about it's... well, entropy (who'd have thunk!). Somewhat chronologically from the big bang to different size stellar objects to eventually the heat death of the universe. And then of course, what happens after maximum entropy is reached? I don't think there's a clear answer but apparently by our interpretation, all hell breaks loose.

The end was the whole idea behind the demo (for me anyway :)) from the very beginning, with inspiration coming from this. sm kinda wanted to drop it until the very end due to us being only halfway done at like 3AM the night before leaving to the party, but we fought through and I think it's much better this way. If the end feels it doesn't fit then good, it's working!
added on the 2015-11-28 05:07:24 by noby noby
Like I said in your other prod it's always nice to read some backstory. It's too easy to consume a demo and judge it superficially. It's just cool to hear about the concept, what was intentional and what happened by accident, and any limitations or struggles that were experienced. Sometimes it makes you view the demo in a different way than before.
added on the 2015-11-28 05:31:25 by drift drift
the crackle sound scene was nice
rulez added on the 2015-11-28 05:51:50 by 1in10 1in10
The sounds and scene around 3 minutes <3, perfect moment before the ultimate storm.
rulez added on the 2018-12-04 07:01:00 by deepr deepr
ended when it was starting :(
rulez added on the 2018-12-22 03:21:55 by psenough psenough
i was bored until the drop
rulez added on the 2019-03-06 12:01:36 by nagz nagz
well its just bad effects
sucks added on the 2019-03-07 01:10:14 by rock rock

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