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1k_Evolution by Secretly!
screenshot added by #535 on 2008-03-23 01:03:03
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release date : march 2008
release party : Breakpoint 2008
compo : pc 4k
ranked : 11th
  • rulez 19
  • is ok 17
  • sucks 41
popularity : 59%
  • sucks -0.29
alltime top: #44276
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It really sucks...
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 00:07:29 by #535 #535
its only a basecodes should have not been released as that.. O_O
added on the 2008-03-23 00:09:20 by gentleman gentleman
Try making it 512B and then we'll see...
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 00:11:20 by stage7 stage7
not really....
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 00:11:58 by src src
oh crap, it's a 1k actually. i suck =(
added on the 2008-03-23 00:12:13 by #535 #535
What CygnusEd said.
added on the 2008-03-23 00:14:57 by p01 p01
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 00:32:59 by Bobic Bobic
c'mon, it's 2008. better luck next time.
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 00:34:55 by earx earx
it had to compete against 4k intros, so i guess it's hard to compare it right now. I'll decide if this is piggy or sux after the party.
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 00:39:13 by got got
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 01:20:11 by Skate Skate
uncool :|
added on the 2008-03-23 01:28:17 by EviL EviL
This competed in a 4kb competition. The decision of leaving 3kb of wasted space is your own decision - and doesn't make up for the lack of audio and visual inspiration.

... and it's considered cheesy to greet your girlfriend.
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 10:27:09 by rasmus/loonies rasmus/loonies
errr.. NO!
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 10:28:07 by Puryx Puryx
looks nice
added on the 2008-03-23 10:55:30 by zefyros zefyros
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 11:34:04 by wie8 wie8
the nfo looks alright!
added on the 2008-03-23 11:37:21 by gencha gencha
Nothing special...
added on the 2008-03-23 11:50:16 by Mystra Mystra
cool thing..
added on the 2008-03-23 12:27:07 by skarab skarab
It's always a start
Nice nfo file.
(btw here nosound)
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 13:14:39 by bdk bdk
the Magic Man Squad [tm] is not amused.
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 13:17:01 by nic0 nic0
Ok for a start. Motivational thumb up.
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 16:03:40 by Optimonk Optimonk
<3 candy colors
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 16:23:17 by Zest Zest

[16:15] <MrVainSCL> i have released the 1k intro evolution (4k pc intro compo) http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=50072 i cant register at pouet and SADLY their is the wrong (buggy) version online.... on the party web is the final (including music in 1k on XP machine)...
[16:16] <MrVainSCL> would be nice if someonce can change it and write that thier is the wrong version... thx

New (temporary) url here.

About prod: no idea :-)
added on the 2008-03-23 16:27:56 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
looks exactly the same to me...dont know about buggy. I wont comment on music, that would be unfair.
added on the 2008-03-23 17:08:39 by auld auld
excellent idea :D
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 18:27:40 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
awesome now it have sound !!!!!
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 18:27:41 by EviL EviL
music is nice
graphics are meh
but you get a motivational thumb up. :)
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 18:27:59 by micksam7 micksam7
MUCH more interesting with sound. What do I say : music!
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 18:29:06 by p01 p01
The best 1k synth evah! And nice graphics too!! Best prod of 2008
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 18:29:52 by Zplex Zplex
The best 1k synth evah <- LOL
added on the 2008-03-23 18:30:11 by EviL EviL
It is not a synth. it's the windows XP setup music.
added on the 2008-03-23 18:31:10 by EviL EviL
added on the 2008-03-23 18:32:46 by s0r s0r
lamest. rip. ever. hope melanie dumps your cheating ass.
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 18:33:11 by phoenix phoenix
okay, using windows music tracks ...
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 18:34:47 by Salinga Salinga
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 18:35:39 by imbusy imbusy
sounds a "bit" different in vista... ding...ding...ding...ding...
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 18:36:24 by Psycho Psycho
Okay if that is the case, here's your thumb :)
(I'm all for creative cheating, but I wouldn't vote for it :D)
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 18:37:21 by Preacher Preacher
Nice colors and funny trick with the music :)
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 18:38:35 by Buckethead Buckethead
im all for creative voting but i wouldnt cheat for it.
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 18:39:11 by s0r s0r
Someone forgot to credit Microsoft, heh
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 18:44:50 by Lazarus Lazarus
a pouet release is all very well but cheating in a major competition is a thumb down.
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 19:55:51 by auld auld
I run an IT Consultancy for a living and have to hear that fucking Windows song almost every day. In fact, sometimes when rolling out a bunch of systems, I have 6 copies of that tune blaring out at me in one go. I didn't come to breakpoint to hear that cunting song again!

Please, don't pull a stunt like that again. :(
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 20:04:56 by rc00 rc00
too short, but cool
the trick with the music was a nice idea
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 21:09:29 by jihad jihad
Creative thinking.
rulez added on the 2008-03-23 21:15:29 by Shockwave Shockwave
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 21:19:02 by lemmus lemmus
wtf? who's author of this crap?
sorry, dudes
sucks added on the 2008-03-23 21:32:40 by Ized Ized
rulez added on the 2008-03-24 03:22:32 by iks iks
I didn't much like this demo. The bugged party version wasn't so hot, but the version with sound is worse to me since it's not really made for the demo..
sucks added on the 2008-03-24 05:32:21 by SaxxonPike SaxxonPike
Now thats bad
sucks added on the 2008-03-24 08:52:34 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
we've seen it all
added on the 2008-03-24 11:12:05 by las las
Released at BP2008 first without music, then with music. Problem is, the music is the default Windows XP install music that can be found on every WinXP install at C:\Windows\system32\oobe\images\title.wma Using a play() call on this file and trying to seem clever about it is lame.
sucks added on the 2008-03-24 11:34:53 by Cyan Cyan
sucks added on the 2008-03-24 12:39:52 by aegis aegis
no. could probably be done in half the size, and no mentioning of the origins of the tune in the NFO.
added on the 2008-03-24 17:41:43 by wb wb
sucks added on the 2008-03-25 08:49:47 by chock chock
if 256 then maybe...
sucks added on the 2008-03-25 12:03:18 by comankh comankh
was more acceptable with music
added on the 2008-03-25 13:00:29 by psenough psenough
Well done.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 13:02:11 by Bradan Bradan
could be easily done in 256 byte i guess and using some wma playback is not a really good idea ( interesting though, that some people really think its a synth :) )
sucks added on the 2008-03-25 13:12:07 by gopher gopher
thanks cyan, I actually thought it was a nice effort to put that music into 1k... that windows music file is 2,5 mb large.
sucks added on the 2008-03-25 16:05:46 by novel novel
It has sound (and a nice one!)... so thumb up.
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 16:09:50 by xernobyl xernobyl
What Preacher said ;)
sucks added on the 2008-03-25 16:10:49 by StingRay StingRay
Hehe, you got me there for a moment!
sucks added on the 2008-03-25 16:33:51 by waffle waffle
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 16:34:56 by texel texel
better than some prods here
rulez added on the 2008-03-25 19:38:16 by panic panic
Well, DDT would argue that all 64k's and 4k's and so on are the same thing - cheating because they use windows files instead of actual code.

Productions like this improve his point.

so good so good that it hurts :(
sucks added on the 2008-03-26 11:14:11 by uns3en_ uns3en_
hi guys,

thanks for voting and the discussions started here. I still thought that my 1k will get flamed and its really funny to me, to see how you guys are voting and what you think about the "tricky way" to play music in a 1k intro.

You are saying its cheating but i dont think so. I think cheating would be something like d/l a tune from the web and play then or something like this, what is not on your HD before.

I am just only using a XP OS component (the wma tune). When saying this is an illegal point to use this OS component (available on any XP system), so what about using the API stuff (Win32, DX, OGL) where people just call OS graphic/sound functions?

However have you ever thought about some top voted 4k intros on pouet, where the coder is using the GM.dls (a system dll) and extracting the waves from this dll to play music, insteed coding a real synth? If this is legal, so i dont see the different using the GM.dls or using the wma tune (both are system components).

To be clear, i didnt broke any BP compo rulez and the entry was not disqualified.

But its really nice to see how and what you guys are thinking about the tricky way using a wma tune in my first 1k intro and what is legal and where it stops.

Personally i think the intro is ok for a first 1k intro and a lot people got the "oha, wtf" effect when they have seen this prod the first time and listening to the tune.

To the people saying the intro could be done in 256 or 512 bytes... ok, possible you can... But i dont like to code for DOS, we have 2008 and so the 1k intro is a Win32 executeable file with a resolution of 640x480 in 32 bit with a messagebox and music ^^

best regards
added on the 2008-03-26 13:15:40 by MrVainSCL MrVainSCL
MrVain: please... if you don't get why people do not like this intro, then you're either provoking or a bit retarded.

You are using music that you have NOT composed or created yourself, without giving credits for it.

Also it is obvious that your intro is quite simple without the sound.

Great that a lot of people get "whoa, wtf" when they hear the tune, but how do they think when they learn that you did fucking NOTHING to create this tune at all?

Nobody wants your entry disqualified - we just think you suck, ok? :)

I know I'm sounding harsh, but I was really disappointed by this - and when I read your argumentation about the "wow-factor of sound" I just plain disrespect you taking the sound/musical credits from someone else.
added on the 2008-03-26 13:24:47 by Puryx Puryx
Well, you see, there is a thin line between doing something bold & clever and bold & stupid. ;)

The point is that you didn't make the music and kind of implied - or people, who have never heard the tune implied - you did.

Also, the visuals just suck. Have a look at some other 1k intros.
added on the 2008-03-26 13:25:29 by tomaes tomaes
I like the compo version better
sucks added on the 2008-03-27 09:42:15 by mentor mentor
Puryx has leading. ;)
added on the 2008-03-27 10:28:13 by StingRay StingRay
i found it nice actually, but didn't knew that the music was ripped.
added on the 2008-03-27 10:31:33 by v3nom v3nom
MrVainSCL: It's not cheating since you did use system files but it's just a shit production for a 1K code and design wise.
added on the 2008-03-27 10:32:56 by waffle waffle
for 1k .. a lot of room for improvement
sucks added on the 2008-03-27 10:50:14 by dwarf dwarf
hmm hmmm hmmm.... Thumb for 1st 1k prod. Sucks for no musical credits... thumb for being flamed here. Sucks for the cheesy colors :D nah whatever. I give you a thumb. I know youre a nice guy ;]
rulez added on the 2008-03-27 10:55:48 by ewerybody ewerybody
it's not like it's the first time someone uses this trick...
sucks added on the 2008-03-27 20:59:34 by prm prm
One thing about the music. There's a tiny difference between playing a system audio file as is and extracting instruments from a DLL and inject them in a tracker/sequencer
added on the 2008-03-27 21:07:28 by p01 p01
The nfo saves it from thumbdown. Piggie.
added on the 2008-03-28 04:13:33 by martin martin
Scheisse! Best with earplugs.
sucks added on the 2008-03-28 15:38:37 by archee archee
Thought it was actually kind of good until I found title.wma... May not have broke BP rules, but should have had music credit at least, because without, it's plagiarizing.
sucks added on the 2008-03-28 20:28:34 by paranoid paranoid
Shame abot the music...
added on the 2008-03-30 20:49:43 by beavis77 beavis77
forgot the thumb
sucks added on the 2008-03-30 21:09:28 by beavis77 beavis77
(Without the music) ok for a first 1k.
added on the 2008-04-21 05:10:02 by wullon wullon
sucks added on the 2008-05-26 00:52:19 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
ok :)
added on the 2008-06-11 01:47:53 by makc makc
rulez added on the 2008-09-14 23:18:44 by T$ T$
Pure Namevoting...
rulez added on the 2010-10-06 22:21:30 by joooo joooo

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