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No Copy by Evrimsson & ShadowMan
screenshot added by iks on 2006-04-19 04:27:50
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release date : april 2006
release party : Breakpoint 2006
compo : animation
ranked : 8th
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popularity : 55%
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alltime top: #52702
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mmmmmmkay! right!...
added on the 2006-04-19 08:58:52 by kelsey kelsey
it would have been nicer to understand something, as this was all in german. i presume what's all about but i can't say sucks/rulez until a subtitled version goes out :-D
well, good point in there, but the whole presentation just simply sucks, sorry...
so: piggy
I like it :D
rulez added on the 2006-04-19 09:41:00 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
how about telling something sceners doesnt't already know.
And Shockwave-Flash über-suXX0rz
added on the 2006-04-19 10:35:05 by d0DgE d0DgE
Totally boring and pointless!
sucks added on the 2006-04-19 10:37:16 by StingRay StingRay
A well made documentary - now that came unexpected. Could be a good idea to make subtitles for all the non-german sceners.
rulez added on the 2006-04-19 15:14:38 by jco jco
A bit redundant.. and subtitles would be nice indeed.
added on the 2006-04-19 15:16:41 by Preacher Preacher
loooooooooooooooooong (really!) and boring flash production in german speaking on a international demoparty while people where trying to have fun
it might be very interesting but... english please
sucks added on the 2006-04-19 18:04:53 by EviL EviL
sucks ass
sucks added on the 2006-04-19 21:53:23 by dairos dairos
i hate you.
sucks added on the 2006-04-20 02:34:48 by nosfe nosfe
An ugly flash clip doing nothing but spreading pointless FUD. And releasing a German-only prod without subtitles at Breakpoint isn't a good idea either.
sucks added on the 2006-04-20 18:31:07 by KeyJ KeyJ
This for demoscene-audience (and only deutsch)? Indeed I disliked it a lot for various reasons..
sucks added on the 2006-04-20 23:48:21 by tripper tripper
what stingray said
rulez added on the 2006-04-21 12:39:52 by toxie toxie
i'm to dumb to give a thumb down :(
added on the 2006-04-21 12:40:19 by toxie toxie
Seriously, go away! Now!
sucks added on the 2006-04-21 22:21:08 by hornet hornet
you try to sell the demoscene as the warezscene? fuck off..

sucks added on the 2006-04-23 02:41:17 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
über-pathetic. with wrong dates on the pictures all over. plus the pictures are taken from demoscene events and not copy parties.
sucks added on the 2006-04-23 11:45:28 by Krill Krill
for the point of it.
rulez added on the 2006-04-23 12:43:08 by paniq paniq
it simply tells wrong facts.
there never were copyparties with more than 1000 people.
the demoscene is not the warez scene.
and the demoscene is not about what is told in this movie.
sucks added on the 2006-04-23 22:49:30 by styx^hcr styx^hcr
This goddamn sucks. It's the same with their crappy lame books - mixing up the cracking- and the demoscene, and then calling both "hackers" because that sells better.

Big fuckings for abusing Breakpoint for this.

And now I'll get the Breakpoint logo removed from their crappy no-copy.org advertising site.
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 14:09:34 by scamp scamp
Puhukaa oikein hitaasti, en ymmärrä kieltänne.
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 14:21:07 by break break
commercial bullshit
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 14:24:47 by xeNusion xeNusion
pls die, kthx
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 14:32:24 by delta delta
fuck this shit
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 14:34:09 by teel teel
Horrible bore and waste of compo time for the entire non-German part of the audience, and now that I learn of the issues with the content as well I'm quite convinced that this was the worst production in any compo at Breakpoint.
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 14:34:40 by jobe jobe
here it goes
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 14:38:52 by bonzaj bonzaj
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 14:42:42 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
done with a warezed version of flash i guess? :)
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 14:49:23 by Gargaj Gargaj
doesn't seem very wild to me
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 15:22:41 by cruzer cruzer
I join the crowd, now that I watch it at home and understand better what is said.
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 15:39:24 by Preacher Preacher
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 16:11:37 by iks iks
Quoting Beavis: 'If I wanted to learn something ... I'd like ... go to school, ehe'
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 16:17:52 by Steel Steel
Horrible bore and waste of compo time for the entire non-German part of the audience

Jobe: this was totally boring and wasted time for me as well and I am german. :)
added on the 2006-04-24 16:23:08 by StingRay StingRay
everybody is doing it, so why shouldnt i?
sucks added on the 2006-04-24 18:12:28 by red red
(btw, i was refering to thumbing down the prod, not the actual content of this "wild", hehe)
added on the 2006-04-24 18:13:51 by red red
the community decides to thumb this crap down, so ill agree..
sucks added on the 2006-04-25 17:14:59 by _docd^hjb _docd^hjb
Didn't like it. And I'm German. This feels a bit like a Bild-Zeitung-Reportage.
sucks added on the 2006-04-26 13:51:52 by necronomic0 necronomic0
I somehow thought they were sponsores and showing their crappy movie was only goodwill from the organizers (while the first position was a clear statement to the crowd). Oh well, they weren't sponsors, they've used Breakpoint as a quite cheap promotion (only 1x 45 Euros entrance fee).
sucks added on the 2006-04-26 16:02:02 by René Madenmann René Madenmann
(btw, i was refering to thumbing down the prod, not the actual content of this "wild", hehe)

Content? Where's the content here? I don't see any. :)
added on the 2006-04-26 16:24:58 by StingRay StingRay
i don't understand this one really, i dislike this sort of prods alot on demoparties since most demosceners already have made up their mind about stuff like this. And why call it "no copy" when you are promoting the creative commons license which is a kind of copyright.
sucks added on the 2006-04-26 16:36:39 by bzz bzz
everything about this has been said...
sucks added on the 2006-04-26 16:44:22 by okkie okkie
i really wold be intrested to know why this piece of shit was shown at all?
added on the 2006-04-26 16:55:18 by nosfe nosfe
me too...
imho my (with keito's music) video was *FAR* better and shorter
added on the 2006-04-26 17:18:45 by EviL EviL
I suspect (because I'm way too cynical) the title "no copy" is a blatant and shameless attempt at capturing the aura of the "no logo" book.

added on the 2006-04-26 19:08:46 by _-_-__ _-_-__
It's way too long and it's not really scene related, but it's fairly decent as far as anti-copyright propaganda fake-documentaries go.

But yes, mixing up warez and demoscene (on purpose?) kinda sucks.
added on the 2006-04-26 20:32:10 by tomaes tomaes
rulez: http://www.geocities.com/hundekatzemauser/uSCHi_NO_COPY.TXT
sucks added on the 2006-04-27 23:31:24 by afromies afromies
Wow, I got that link at 23:45, it was already offline at 00:05.
And why call it "no copy" when you are promoting the creative commons license which is a kind of copyright.
They weren't promoting the CC, the complete promotion was for their book against copyright (15 Euros) which they don't release as pdf...
People who have that book said it's quite shitty. "I had to fight with myself to read the first five pages." was one sentence I've heard. That says more than enough.
http://www.reticon.de/news/1184.html The news entry is dated April 7th - one week before Breakpoint - and writes that the movie is available. According to the rules it should've been disqualified: "Compo entries may not have been released before."
oh damn even worst...
my video could have been shown :(
added on the 2006-04-28 03:33:55 by EviL EviL
MadenMann: I somehow cant blame the organizers for not knowing the whole Internet by heart though...
added on the 2006-04-28 04:17:00 by Gargaj Gargaj
sorry evrim, no matter what, but breaking party rules (submitting an already released entry) just to promote a commercial product is VERY lame. instead of writing about "hacker ethics" you should learn the ethics of the demoscene.
sucks added on the 2006-04-28 07:33:05 by dipswitch dipswitch
although it is against the rules, thank you for spreading the word about creative commons.
rulez added on the 2006-04-29 11:57:20 by wasiliy wasiliy
realease your books under cc.
( and btw, your site is the worst compilation of utter crap, fact-twisting "arguments" and pathetic coments about 'ethics' i have ever seen. )

imho you owe the demoscene and organizers of breakpoint an apology.
sucks added on the 2006-04-29 23:21:34 by abductee abductee
i am wondering, who of you is evrim anyway (evil?). and is he at this forum at all? i was just wondering ...
i think the movie is quite good. but i agree, that using demo scene in combination with hackers could be confusing to demo sceners if they dont know the hacker ethics. but the main idea of the vid appears very correct, imho.

i remember a big applause at the party for this movie btw.
rulez added on the 2006-05-06 15:05:27 by joashu joashu
i'm very interested in copyright/copyleft activism, but re-releasing and without fucking subtitles, fuck off, i'd rather have watched the prods that didnt got played by deviance, nosfe and !=.
sucks added on the 2006-05-06 16:02:06 by psenough psenough
sucks added on the 2006-05-14 20:14:34 by dq dq
At least they should have translated the text into english so everybody at BP would have understood what it's about. Re-releasing it in german at BP after it was available from their website wasn't that clever. ;-)

The book is not that bad even if it brings on some wrong facts and strange conclusions, at least for me. Hackers, crackers and demosceners don't have much if anything in common - okay, they're using a computer for their hobby. But else this mix up is even more confusing and wrong.

The presentation of their book isn't bad and their book isn't either. (if you forget about those mistakes and so on) Plus I enjoy myself to disagree what the mass thinks
;-) I could bet the half of you just follows a trend, not having an own opinion. Some of them even never had a look at this wildie!!
rulez added on the 2006-05-15 20:36:58 by ghandy ghandy
Incomming message to ghandy:
Several hundred people were watching this video at the party place. Several hundred people were bored to death.
Ghandy: I TOTALLY second KRABATMANN! :) I wonder if you actually saw this "wild" (hahaha) "demo" (even more HAHA)...
added on the 2006-05-16 00:43:22 by StingRay StingRay
yap, Stinger...I stood beside you and saw you fading away :D
And here goes the downer for the re-release!
sucks added on the 2006-05-18 13:41:03 by d0DgE d0DgE
Stingah:I saw it once at the book presentation in Cologne where we discussed with the lawyer of the GVU and also at the party place. This entry definatly was a re-release and also with commercial content. So far it sucks, yes.
added on the 2006-05-21 09:31:13 by ghandy ghandy
So finally the book came to light and has been promoted at Evoke?
added on the 2006-08-16 14:13:57 by Gargaj Gargaj
real wild demo or not - this is a cool movie with a important message!
rulez added on the 2006-08-16 14:45:29 by v3nom v3nom
Where can we get the book? English this time?
added on the 2006-08-16 15:13:23 by iks iks
It's only in german language available.
added on the 2006-08-16 15:24:16 by ghandy ghandy
Hmmmm, I think its basically very good, this movie/documentation exists. :)
added on the 2007-01-31 20:11:13 by gentleman gentleman
its only german,but free to download (now.!)
it has some misleading infoZ (cant remember there was a wareZ-scene,before there was the DemoScene....there was a Cracking-Scene...yeZ.! the wareZ-scenE is what its called today with Internet and downloadable MovieZ and TimbaLame-musiC.! ...also there are a lot of names in that List of Cracking-GroupZ that belong to the DemoScene ONLY.!)
...but stilll it is a nice-to-read-book...especially for the younger ones (that apparently just aren´t old enough to have been there..THEN.!) and also for the complete-unaware ppl.!

i give that Thumb-up for the READ...not this Wild.! (which is available at www.no-copy.org also in an english version (which i did NOT chekk yet...I´m german anyway.! ;) )
rulez added on the 2007-10-11 19:34:22 by ɧ4ɾɗվ. ɧ4ɾɗվ.
sucks added on the 2008-05-02 21:48:24 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
sucks added on the 2008-08-20 15:15:44 by Sir Sir
indeed, what a load of tripe this was
sucks added on the 2008-08-20 15:18:57 by havoc havoc
The book is a pile of lobotomized bullshit and this advertisement suits it retty well.
Should have been disqualified.
sucks added on the 2015-01-12 01:17:41 by T$ T$
Hey guys. Sure, I'm here, have been reading everything you wrote since the moment we published the video. And I understand. First, thanks for your feedback, I appreciate.

We showed the move at breakpoint because we wanted to share. It was not done for the demo scene, but we believe it carries an important message to the public.

And to those who did not like our contribution at all. We love you anyways — I grew up with you guys and you changed my life. You guys are great!
rulez added on the 2020-05-12 09:08:10 by eVRIMSSON eVRIMSSON

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