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mmmmmmkay! right!...
added on the 2006-04-19 08:58:52 by kelsey 
it would have been nicer to understand something, as this was all in german. i presume what's all about but i can't say sucks/rulez until a subtitled version goes out :-D
well, good point in there, but the whole presentation just simply sucks, sorry...
so: piggy
so: piggy
I like it :D
how about telling something sceners doesnt't already know.
And Shockwave-Flash über-suXX0rz
And Shockwave-Flash über-suXX0rz
Totally boring and pointless!
A well made documentary - now that came unexpected. Could be a good idea to make subtitles for all the non-german sceners.
A bit redundant.. and subtitles would be nice indeed.
loooooooooooooooooong (really!) and boring flash production in german speaking on a international demoparty while people where trying to have fun
it might be very interesting but... english please
it might be very interesting but... english please
sucks ass
i hate you.
An ugly flash clip doing nothing but spreading pointless FUD. And releasing a German-only prod without subtitles at Breakpoint isn't a good idea either.
This for demoscene-audience (and only deutsch)? Indeed I disliked it a lot for various reasons..
what stingray said
i'm to dumb to give a thumb down :(
Seriously, go away! Now!
you try to sell the demoscene as the warezscene? fuck off..
über-pathetic. with wrong dates on the pictures all over. plus the pictures are taken from demoscene events and not copy parties.
for the point of it.
it simply tells wrong facts.
there never were copyparties with more than 1000 people.
the demoscene is not the warez scene.
and the demoscene is not about what is told in this movie.
there never were copyparties with more than 1000 people.
the demoscene is not the warez scene.
and the demoscene is not about what is told in this movie.
This goddamn sucks. It's the same with their crappy lame books - mixing up the cracking- and the demoscene, and then calling both "hackers" because that sells better.
Big fuckings for abusing Breakpoint for this.
And now I'll get the Breakpoint logo removed from their crappy no-copy.org advertising site.
Big fuckings for abusing Breakpoint for this.
And now I'll get the Breakpoint logo removed from their crappy no-copy.org advertising site.
Puhukaa oikein hitaasti, en ymmärrä kieltänne.
commercial bullshit
pls die, kthx
fuck this shit
Horrible bore and waste of compo time for the entire non-German part of the audience, and now that I learn of the issues with the content as well I'm quite convinced that this was the worst production in any compo at Breakpoint.
here it goes
done with a warezed version of flash i guess? :)
doesn't seem very wild to me
I join the crowd, now that I watch it at home and understand better what is said.
Quoting Beavis: 'If I wanted to learn something ... I'd like ... go to school, ehe'
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Horrible bore and waste of compo time for the entire non-German part of the audience
Jobe: this was totally boring and wasted time for me as well and I am german. :)
everybody is doing it, so why shouldnt i?
(btw, i was refering to thumbing down the prod, not the actual content of this "wild", hehe)
the community decides to thumb this crap down, so ill agree..
Didn't like it. And I'm German. This feels a bit like a Bild-Zeitung-Reportage.
I somehow thought they were sponsores and showing their crappy movie was only goodwill from the organizers (while the first position was a clear statement to the crowd). Oh well, they weren't sponsors, they've used Breakpoint as a quite cheap promotion (only 1x 45 Euros entrance fee).
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(btw, i was refering to thumbing down the prod, not the actual content of this "wild", hehe)
Content? Where's the content here? I don't see any. :)
i don't understand this one really, i dislike this sort of prods alot on demoparties since most demosceners already have made up their mind about stuff like this. And why call it "no copy" when you are promoting the creative commons license which is a kind of copyright.
everything about this has been said...
i really wold be intrested to know why this piece of shit was shown at all?
me too...
imho my (with keito's music) video was *FAR* better and shorter
imho my (with keito's music) video was *FAR* better and shorter
I suspect (because I'm way too cynical) the title "no copy" is a blatant and shameless attempt at capturing the aura of the "no logo" book.
It's way too long and it's not really scene related, but it's fairly decent as far as anti-copyright propaganda fake-documentaries go.
But yes, mixing up warez and demoscene (on purpose?) kinda sucks.
But yes, mixing up warez and demoscene (on purpose?) kinda sucks.
rulez: http://www.geocities.com/hundekatzemauser/uSCHi_NO_COPY.TXT
Wow, I got that link at 23:45, it was already offline at 00:05.
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They weren't promoting the CC, the complete promotion was for their book against copyright (15 Euros) which they don't release as pdf...And why call it "no copy" when you are promoting the creative commons license which is a kind of copyright.
People who have that book said it's quite shitty. "I had to fight with myself to read the first five pages." was one sentence I've heard. That says more than enough.
http://www.reticon.de/news/1184.html The news entry is dated April 7th - one week before Breakpoint - and writes that the movie is available. According to the rules it should've been disqualified: "Compo entries may not have been released before."
oh damn even worst...
my video could have been shown :(
my video could have been shown :(
MadenMann: I somehow cant blame the organizers for not knowing the whole Internet by heart though...
sorry evrim, no matter what, but breaking party rules (submitting an already released entry) just to promote a commercial product is VERY lame. instead of writing about "hacker ethics" you should learn the ethics of the demoscene.
although it is against the rules, thank you for spreading the word about creative commons.
realease your books under cc.
( and btw, your site is the worst compilation of utter crap, fact-twisting "arguments" and pathetic coments about 'ethics' i have ever seen. )
imho you owe the demoscene and organizers of breakpoint an apology.
( and btw, your site is the worst compilation of utter crap, fact-twisting "arguments" and pathetic coments about 'ethics' i have ever seen. )
imho you owe the demoscene and organizers of breakpoint an apology.
i am wondering, who of you is evrim anyway (evil?). and is he at this forum at all? i was just wondering ...
i think the movie is quite good. but i agree, that using demo scene in combination with hackers could be confusing to demo sceners if they dont know the hacker ethics. but the main idea of the vid appears very correct, imho.
i remember a big applause at the party for this movie btw.
i think the movie is quite good. but i agree, that using demo scene in combination with hackers could be confusing to demo sceners if they dont know the hacker ethics. but the main idea of the vid appears very correct, imho.
i remember a big applause at the party for this movie btw.
i'm very interested in copyright/copyleft activism, but re-releasing and without fucking subtitles, fuck off, i'd rather have watched the prods that didnt got played by deviance, nosfe and !=.
At least they should have translated the text into english so everybody at BP would have understood what it's about. Re-releasing it in german at BP after it was available from their website wasn't that clever. ;-)
The book is not that bad even if it brings on some wrong facts and strange conclusions, at least for me. Hackers, crackers and demosceners don't have much if anything in common - okay, they're using a computer for their hobby. But else this mix up is even more confusing and wrong.
The presentation of their book isn't bad and their book isn't either. (if you forget about those mistakes and so on) Plus I enjoy myself to disagree what the mass thinks
;-) I could bet the half of you just follows a trend, not having an own opinion. Some of them even never had a look at this wildie!!
The book is not that bad even if it brings on some wrong facts and strange conclusions, at least for me. Hackers, crackers and demosceners don't have much if anything in common - okay, they're using a computer for their hobby. But else this mix up is even more confusing and wrong.
The presentation of their book isn't bad and their book isn't either. (if you forget about those mistakes and so on) Plus I enjoy myself to disagree what the mass thinks
;-) I could bet the half of you just follows a trend, not having an own opinion. Some of them even never had a look at this wildie!!
Incomming message to ghandy:
Several hundred people were watching this video at the party place. Several hundred people were bored to death.
Several hundred people were watching this video at the party place. Several hundred people were bored to death.
Ghandy: I TOTALLY second KRABATMANN! :) I wonder if you actually saw this "wild" (hahaha) "demo" (even more HAHA)...
yap, Stinger...I stood beside you and saw you fading away :D
And here goes the downer for the re-release!
And here goes the downer for the re-release!
Stingah:I saw it once at the book presentation in Cologne where we discussed with the lawyer of the GVU and also at the party place. This entry definatly was a re-release and also with commercial content. So far it sucks, yes.
So finally the book came to light and has been promoted at Evoke?
real wild demo or not - this is a cool movie with a important message!
Where can we get the book? English this time?
It's only in german language available.
Hmmmm, I think its basically very good, this movie/documentation exists. :)
its only german,but free to download (now.!)
it has some misleading infoZ (cant remember there was a wareZ-scene,before there was the DemoScene....there was a Cracking-Scene...yeZ.! the wareZ-scenE is what its called today with Internet and downloadable MovieZ and TimbaLame-musiC.! ...also there are a lot of names in that List of Cracking-GroupZ that belong to the DemoScene ONLY.!)
...but stilll it is a nice-to-read-book...especially for the younger ones (that apparently just aren´t old enough to have been there..THEN.!) and also for the complete-unaware ppl.!
i give that Thumb-up for the READ...not this Wild.! (which is available at www.no-copy.org also in an english version (which i did NOT chekk yet...I´m german anyway.! ;) )
it has some misleading infoZ (cant remember there was a wareZ-scene,before there was the DemoScene....there was a Cracking-Scene...yeZ.! the wareZ-scenE is what its called today with Internet and downloadable MovieZ and TimbaLame-musiC.! ...also there are a lot of names in that List of Cracking-GroupZ that belong to the DemoScene ONLY.!)
...but stilll it is a nice-to-read-book...especially for the younger ones (that apparently just aren´t old enough to have been there..THEN.!) and also for the complete-unaware ppl.!
i give that Thumb-up for the READ...not this Wild.! (which is available at www.no-copy.org also in an english version (which i did NOT chekk yet...I´m german anyway.! ;) )
WTF
indeed, what a load of tripe this was
The book is a pile of lobotomized bullshit and this advertisement suits it retty well.
Should have been disqualified.
Should have been disqualified.
Hey guys. Sure, I'm here, have been reading everything you wrote since the moment we published the video. And I understand. First, thanks for your feedback, I appreciate.
We showed the move at breakpoint because we wanted to share. It was not done for the demo scene, but we believe it carries an important message to the public.
And to those who did not like our contribution at all. We love you anyways — I grew up with you guys and you changed my life. You guys are great!
We showed the move at breakpoint because we wanted to share. It was not done for the demo scene, but we believe it carries an important message to the public.
And to those who did not like our contribution at all. We love you anyways — I grew up with you guys and you changed my life. You guys are great!
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