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if i was a girl, i would rape myself by Dentifrice [web]
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great one !
added on the 2000-11-26 06:34:46 by analogue 
It seems oldskool. The title is damn crazy! Kinda wanting to see it =)
P.S. What would you really do if you were a girl? Tricky question. I would get more attention from the scene I guess, but I don't really know what I would do if I was a girl =)
P.S. What would you really do if you were a girl? Tricky question. I would get more attention from the scene I guess, but I don't really know what I would do if I was a girl =)
Hey! It got popularity 11%!!! Mostly for the title I guess!
Heh,.. I should name my group "Motherfaqers", "Nasty Freaks", "Obsessed newbies", "31337 doodz" or "UltraHackers", I should name my demos "Third Reality", "Hell7", "If I was Optimus I would collect all the day glops" or "Ultraelite coding" and I should have some Scene girls too in my group! All these would raise the popularity to the maximum! =)
What do you say?
Sorry glop..
Heh,.. I should name my group "Motherfaqers", "Nasty Freaks", "Obsessed newbies", "31337 doodz" or "UltraHackers", I should name my demos "Third Reality", "Hell7", "If I was Optimus I would collect all the day glops" or "Ultraelite coding" and I should have some Scene girls too in my group! All these would raise the popularity to the maximum! =)
What do you say?
Sorry glop..
great music in this one. optimus: maybe you wouldn't know about the thing called "the scene" if you were a girl, eh? :)
let's vote !
hello. this is really great. i like. this art.
this is good.
Kind of fun-intro with a silly name ;)
Optimus actually is a girl
chiptune !
nice design and tune! horribly out of synch in dosbox though.
Ahah Dentifrice was a totally cool and funny demo group.
"That looks totally french" were my first thoughts while watching it. :) Checked .nfo then and saw that it was indeed a french production. =) Nice intro with a cute'n'funny tune by Gandbox. Had to compile latest DOSBox version as it didn't run with my old version but it was worth it. =)
nice :)
:D
cool stuff + loved the french text at startup ;-)
ok, (and funny txt)
Mediocre content, and the title definitely pushes this to a thumb down.
tasteless title
Sometimes it's better to tear down the past.
ppl like you make me love the past noby
nice one with amiga flair
It's actually nice as an intro. Reminds me of some Deus intro.
The title, umm..
Ok,. it's like Sargon's level of intellect :)
You know how it works. The title is "If I was girl, I would rape myself". "But what's bad about that guys? It's autoeroticism, I never said I would rape anyone else, just myself if I was a girl, my body my choice"
Sargon was saying "I wouldn't even rape you". It's the same idea. Say "rape" because it's the big boogeyman of today and it's gonna trigger everyone. Meanwhile frame it in a way like "But what's bad about what I said? I said I wouldn't do that for you, I am good person, I am not going to do that to you!"
It's just edgy and controversial. Oh,. and it happens to men too, but joking about jail rape like "don't drop the soap" gets a pass. Oh well..
The title, umm..
Ok,. it's like Sargon's level of intellect :)
You know how it works. The title is "If I was girl, I would rape myself". "But what's bad about that guys? It's autoeroticism, I never said I would rape anyone else, just myself if I was a girl, my body my choice"
Sargon was saying "I wouldn't even rape you". It's the same idea. Say "rape" because it's the big boogeyman of today and it's gonna trigger everyone. Meanwhile frame it in a way like "But what's bad about what I said? I said I wouldn't do that for you, I am good person, I am not going to do that to you!"
It's just edgy and controversial. Oh,. and it happens to men too, but joking about jail rape like "don't drop the soap" gets a pass. Oh well..
It's not controversial, it's shit.
Turns out, rape is not fun. The whole title screams "LOL the concept that other people have feelings escapes me and I'm so edgy so let's joke about that thing that never happened to myself and that I don't understand. Boobs!".
It might have been "fine" (for us. Just for us. It was never fine in reality) in 1996 when we all were fucking nerds without any social life whatsoever and no internet to bring different voices than our own to our ears, but nowadays there is no fucking excuse.
Optimus, don't go down that road. Nothing good awaits you there.
Turns out, rape is not fun. The whole title screams "LOL the concept that other people have feelings escapes me and I'm so edgy so let's joke about that thing that never happened to myself and that I don't understand. Boobs!".
It might have been "fine" (for us. Just for us. It was never fine in reality) in 1996 when we all were fucking nerds without any social life whatsoever and no internet to bring different voices than our own to our ears, but nowadays there is no fucking excuse.
Optimus, don't go down that road. Nothing good awaits you there.
Cute
the chiptune is kinda cute, but the message deserved a big fuckung thumbs down and a fist up your ass.
tune+, useless edgyness-, gfx have nothing to do with title or music
also what v3nom says
piggie though bc I was 4yo when it was released, my mindset is totally different of course
also what v3nom says
piggie though bc I was 4yo when it was released, my mindset is totally different of course
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Optimus, don't go down that road. Nothing good awaits you there.
I second that, because I was down that road once. Good thing I turned back when I figured out where it went. Optimus' rhetoric sounds familiar, and I know the illusion of rationality can be a hell of a drug, but it's just that, an illusion, peddled by the same opportunists who turned incels from a relatively harmless self help movement for socially awkward people into fertile ground for hate and mass killings.
I'm sure this production will receive thumbups from the usual suspects in short order, because "just a joke", "freedom of speech", "SJWs ruin everything". I don't care.
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and a fist up your ass.
(Protip: if you chastise someone for a rape joke, don't do it with a rape threat.)
I never said it's fun. I don't even care about making such a joke, it's not my thing. Maybe I only like the non-PC nature of it and what different reaction it brings today, but it wouldn't be my style to make a demo with a similar title (in the same way I am reluctant to put political messages in demos, rather stick to the abstract or technical nature of them).
I dislike though this new narrative that in the 90s we were nerds without social life and there was something toxic about the communities and now people have to clean it up and blah blah. It's the stereotypical virgin neckbeard thing that feminists are throwing there (mostly for ideological reasons or for control imho) because it's the easiest thing to shame people that my be perceived as ugly nerds or socially awkward in general. It's easy to shame such people, because naturally we are not attracted to them. Maybe I am just more sympathetic to the underdogs for that reason among other things.
I dislike though this new narrative that in the 90s we were nerds without social life and there was something toxic about the communities and now people have to clean it up and blah blah. It's the stereotypical virgin neckbeard thing that feminists are throwing there (mostly for ideological reasons or for control imho) because it's the easiest thing to shame people that my be perceived as ugly nerds or socially awkward in general. It's easy to shame such people, because naturally we are not attracted to them. Maybe I am just more sympathetic to the underdogs for that reason among other things.
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underdogs
Newsflash: anti-feminists don't give a shit about "underdogs" other than as recruits. Milo Yiannopoulos insulted gamers with the most seething bile before he suddenly saw an opportunity to become the hero of Gamergate.
fun fact: PC master race is not PC
perpetuating bullshit like autogynephilia is the last thing that's needed right now. "hrhr sex lol"-jokes aren't funny just because they are "non-PC", and the harm done here outweighs the laughs you'd get from the "lol sex" joke
and that's coming from a living incarnation of the "asocial nerd coder" stereotype you like to call an "underdog"
(also gargaj has a point)
and that's coming from a living incarnation of the "asocial nerd coder" stereotype you like to call an "underdog"
(also gargaj has a point)
Yes, I do remember that Yiannopoulos did insult gamers, and I don't care much about him. He looked more like an opportunist or a joker at the time.
I don't buy it though that all the people reacting to feminism must be haters and opportunists and so on. That's just one side of the narrative.
I don't buy it though that all the people reacting to feminism must be haters and opportunists and so on. That's just one side of the narrative.
Optimus, there are no two sides to treating other people with respect.
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Quote:and a fist up your ass.
(Protip: if you chastise someone for a rape joke, don't do it with a rape threat.)
Well ofc this was on purpose, maybe it clicks if they're the ones affected
this is some teenage joke... I find it amusing how it was a non issue for so long and suddenly ppl took it seriously. btw there was a song from nirvana called "rape me" back then. how shocking.
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Optimus, there are no two sides to treating other people with respect.
But both sides have people who may be disrespectful. I can't easily place one side owning respect and the other vilified as being disrespectful. Not talking about things like the title of the demo (one could easily argue it mainly falls into disrespect, we get it, it's gross) but saying that all people reacting to feminism must be on the bad side.
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I wasn't aware of it, and I also wasn't alive back in '96this is some teenage joke... I find it amusing how it was a non issue for so long and suddenly ppl took it seriously. btw there was a song from nirvana called "rape me" back then. how shocking.
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pulling a "both sides" on "lol rape" vs "don't do this, please be more respectful next time?" feels a bit like a false equivalenceBut both sides have people who may be disrespectful.
It was always only about the title of this prod. The whole "feminism" angle was brought in by YOU to detract from that. There were no people "reacting to feminism" here. It was all you. YOU started ranting about "PC" and started parroting all that bullshit from the alt right bubble.
Realize that.
Realize that.
(that went to Optimus ofc)
Fair enough. It started from the title, escalated into something else, then I was ranting about something completely different that maybe I shouldn't in Pouet (knowing that several people here are more woke leaning or at least sympathetic, and only perceive any other idea from the other side as dogwhistles from the same alt right bubble)
to be honest, i found the name rather cringy already back then. the intro is a classic, though.
Alternative title: "If I was a girl, I'd be frantically touching my tits every day and night."
Nice little intro with catchy tune and silly name.
Nice little intro with catchy tune and silly name.
Nirvana's "Rape Me" was written to raise awareness about the topic, so don't bother comparing it to whatever this is. I'm glad that most people have since discovered ways to be funny without needing to remind people of the darkest moments of their lives. If someone still needs to defend the title because that's what their humor is still relying on... Good luck.
better alternative title: "If I was a girl, I apparently have a schizophrenic experience of masturbation without my own consent"
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better alternative title: "If I was a girl, I apparently have a schizophrenic experience of masturbation without my own consent"
Haha! You're a fine troll! You nailed it. ;] It is true that the title is oxymoronic (is that a word?) because the concept of "raping yourself" would require adding something outside the semantics of the very rape concept. Optimus was not right (because of this) when he said that it's "just autoeroticism".
I cannot help to feel sad about the fact that the stupid title is getting more attention than the actual merits of this prod. And probably the origin of this was some young French guy with bad English that didn't thought enough about the ugly connotations of the word rape.
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I cannot help to feel sad about the fact that the stupid title is getting more attention than the actual merits of this prod.
Well if you're naming your prod like that you're deliberately trying to provoke I'd say - esp if the content does not even remotely have sth. to do with the title. And then you have to live with people disliking it because of the title.
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And probably the origin of this was some young French guy with bad English that didn't thought enough about the ugly connotations of the word rape.
lol, of course
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Optimus was not right (because of this) when he said that it's "just autoeroticism"
Just to correct, I wasn't saying that I am excusing the title because it's autoeroticism. I was just pointing out two examples of how the "joke" works,. how it's similar to Sargon's method. Say something containing the word "rape" but frame it in such a way that you can make a case that you are not proposing something bad.
like "some people find rape jokes offensive and think you're advocating rape. nothing can be further from the truth, i'm completely neutral" :P
You know what?
You know what? This is probably the best theory on how this title happened.
So how about you stop the mental gymnastics/autofellatio for a second? I've been there, at demo parties in the mid-90s. Guess what, I can't remember _one_ instance of people carefully elaborating artisanal philosophical meta jokes that might offend simple minds at first but are in actuality subtle food for thought. Instead there was a bunch of white dudes in their teens and 20s happily leeching directories full of porn from each other and not really thinking about it much.
But herein lies the point - there's not really any "sides" here. That title is a really shitty joke that probably nobody thought about too much, and there is absolutely no shame in, say, admitting so. It's been almost 25 years, we all had a fuckload of time to grow as persons, and it's not the slightest problem to say "I was an ignorant fool (or colossal idiot) back then".
Hell, I said and did a few really shitty things back in the day, and a few of them are documented on this very website. Feel free to find them and call me out on them. I might say things like "Yeah, I was kinda dumb back then" or "I didn't know better"
What I absolutely WON'T do though is double down on those old shitty things tho. I mean, what the fuck are you people even arguing for? You're defending an almost 25 years old shitty joke that _someone else_ made. How sad is that please? "It's a meta joke". "It's art". "It's satire". "Something something feminism politics something". Are you fucking kidding me?
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And probably the origin of this was some young French guy with bad English that didn't thought enough about the ugly connotations of the word rape.
You know what? This is probably the best theory on how this title happened.
So how about you stop the mental gymnastics/autofellatio for a second? I've been there, at demo parties in the mid-90s. Guess what, I can't remember _one_ instance of people carefully elaborating artisanal philosophical meta jokes that might offend simple minds at first but are in actuality subtle food for thought. Instead there was a bunch of white dudes in their teens and 20s happily leeching directories full of porn from each other and not really thinking about it much.
But herein lies the point - there's not really any "sides" here. That title is a really shitty joke that probably nobody thought about too much, and there is absolutely no shame in, say, admitting so. It's been almost 25 years, we all had a fuckload of time to grow as persons, and it's not the slightest problem to say "I was an ignorant fool (or colossal idiot) back then".
Hell, I said and did a few really shitty things back in the day, and a few of them are documented on this very website. Feel free to find them and call me out on them. I might say things like "Yeah, I was kinda dumb back then" or "I didn't know better"
What I absolutely WON'T do though is double down on those old shitty things tho. I mean, what the fuck are you people even arguing for? You're defending an almost 25 years old shitty joke that _someone else_ made. How sad is that please? "It's a meta joke". "It's art". "It's satire". "Something something feminism politics something". Are you fucking kidding me?
Nice intro, clearly inspired by the heydays of design on Amiga a few years earlier.
Should Byterapers reconsider their demogroup name?
why? is raping bytes a felony now?
crap
Nice cute chip-music and cute graphics. It's a bit simple though, but this is an old intro.
Even here, some people need their safe-spaces from offensive jokes :D
I thought that guys here had thicker skin. Maybe they got raped by homosexuals, so they got personal experience?
"bunch of white dudes"... That sounds like some anti-white male crap. Remind me again of the male proportion who commits most rapes...
Even here, some people need their safe-spaces from offensive jokes :D
I thought that guys here had thicker skin. Maybe they got raped by homosexuals, so they got personal experience?
"bunch of white dudes"... That sounds like some anti-white male crap. Remind me again of the male proportion who commits most rapes...
lol, an insignificant prod from the past necromanted by todays political correctness, which ones next?
also kb_ go make a demo about it
also, i feel sorry for gargaj for deciding if something should be done about it
also. the worst thing is that im not the worst spammer here
and the scene is dead
NTSC his earlier work...
Ok intro, foolish title regardless of age.
But what colour of skin has to do with it or anything?
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"Instead there was a bunch of white dudes..."
But what colour of skin has to do with it or anything?
Crap intro. Also, kb said everything that needs to be said.
The Feminist men comes here to review-bomb this prod just because of its name...
I'll counter that.
I'll counter that.
omg you're such a hero! Standing here for the great cause of making rape jokes
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But what colour of skin has to do with it or anything?
Oh, that's simple. Two reasons.
First, it's a perfect inverse dog whistle, aka a honeypot. Attracts racists like honey attracts flies. They just can't resist. And it worked beautifully if you look at that gorgeous specimen above. (And I didn't even judge. It was just an observation. Look at slengpung and say I'm wrong.)
But most of all: The "white" itself isn't even important. The homogeneity is, though. There's a lot of different skin tones on this planet, and if your bubble, your scene, _especially_ when it prides itself on being international, almost exclusively consists of one of them, you've got a problem. And this problem is a serious lack of knowledge and perspective compared to the rest of the world.
Of course you can always think "That sounds like some anti-white male crap" if you want out yourself as a dimwit.
Again, which demographics commits almost all these rapes in the Western world nowadays... Anti-white Leftists wants open borders yet pretends to stand against rapes... That's VERY contradictory! Well, enough with the politics.
Oh, I missed that post before that.
Hero for freedom of speech, no "Cancel-culture" BS. The top-comedians like Ricky Gervais, Seinfeld and Rowan Atkinson have talked about the anti-freedom-of-speech even on jokes that are taking hold in the Western world, Seinfeld have even stopped doing standups in campuses because of this!
Hero for freedom of speech, no "Cancel-culture" BS. The top-comedians like Ricky Gervais, Seinfeld and Rowan Atkinson have talked about the anti-freedom-of-speech even on jokes that are taking hold in the Western world, Seinfeld have even stopped doing standups in campuses because of this!
How about you stop talking about demographics and maybe make some... demo graphics? Not sure what you‘re giving back to the community, beides that verbal diarrhea of yours.
WaffenSS: You have official, peer reviewed statistics to back that up I gather? This thumb goes to you.
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First, it's a perfect inverse dog whistle, aka a honeypot. Attracts racists like honey attracts flies. They just can't resist. And it worked beautifully if you look at that gorgeous specimen above. (And I didn't even judge. It was just an observation. Look at slengpung and say I'm wrong.)
But most of all: The "white" itself isn't even important. The homogeneity is, though. There's a lot of different skin tones on this planet, and if your bubble, your scene, _especially_ when it prides itself on being international, almost exclusively consists of one of them, you've got a problem. And this problem is a serious lack of knowledge and perspective compared to the rest of the world.
So, if a demoscene consisted mostly of non white people, would things be different? Wouldn't they exchange porn in the nineties? Wouldn't they react in similar ways to rape jokes?
Also,. if there is so much talk even in the mainstream media from the left about "whiteness" and "check your white privilege" and the "white fragility", and I am like "Wow, wow, wow,. wait a minute!". Not because I have any strong white identity (I don't), but because I see the deviousness between the messages passed (and will actually mobilize the actual extreme white supremacists), but I'd be also called a nazi and that is a honepot to expose me? Really??? Because this is what happens in the internet. You have regular intellectuals (you know like Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin, etc) who are just opposing what they think is the cancel culture from the far left (whether you believe it exists or not) and they just have a conversation. But even these are called a nazi, and if you react to messages about "whiteness", ohhh you must be alt-right and that's why we post it to expose you!
I need to make it clear. I have nothing to do with the extremes, I am not interested in race, I am not interested in any white superiority, I am not interested in nationalism and never was. I just stumbled upon some ideas (ohh and the evil Gamergate) and got interested in what was going on. I was very very apolitical compared to my peers before. And I just got an idea from this side of the bubble, I know. But a lot of the people who are just reacting to the mention of "white" in such contexts, are regular people. Now, certain people will think I was radicalized because I was interested in the different views (which I get it, it might be views that happen to also be more accepted by far right, because if the moderate left-center-right-whatever opposes the far left and cancel culture, why wouldn't the far right do so?). Some of us who just got into this rabbit hole but want nothing to do with the far right, are put in the same spot as the far right.
Are any of these sceners here who react on the use of the word "white" secret racists? I mean actual racists doing swastika's and joining really dangerous groups? Not regular people who happen to like watching youtube commentators that are critical of some aspects of the left? I doubt it.
p.s. Sometimes I don't if I should respond. I am kinda not liking I have to bother this community with these things. But identity politics and cultural wars are real and extend the demoscene. They will unfortunately plague every community. I am doing this with half heart, and maybe with the fear that I'll perceived like a bad person.
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Some of us who […] want nothing to do with the far right, are put in the same spot as the far right.
And if this happens to you on a regular basis you might want to think about why that happens. Hint: if it walks like a duck and all that.
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Are any of these sceners here who react on the use of the word "white" secret racists? I mean actual racists doing swastika's and joining really dangerous groups?
If that is your definition of racism (and apparently its only expression) you really didn’t keep up with social developments of the last 30 years, did you.
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Not regular people who happen to like watching youtube commentators that are critical of some aspects of the left? I doubt it.
“Regular people” (or “the mid”) is a concept created by the alt-right in an attempt to normalize itself. Still want to join that group?
Actually a cute little pc intro during the times I thought pc was very crappy =) Stupid name though.
for reference: https://youtu.be/qanm2JMAmQw?t=167
Cringe
-Attention whoring title
-Boring drama, would not read again
+Did not actually watch the prod, so I can't thumb it down
-Boring drama, would not read again
+Did not actually watch the prod, so I can't thumb it down
friends, I have a solution: we could rename it. what about "there are not enough girls in the demoscene"? would need a graphician, to edit the screenshot though.
drama ....
also makes you wonder, what would he do if he were Bomberman?
Well...
Lotta peepz here to talk about rape & women, but curiously not so much crowd there to just say at least "Oh ? There's a demo like this ? Cool..." ;)
(Ok the demo isn't so wonderfull [pretty fair for VCS i'll say héhé] but I haven't seen much (or even another one, but if you got exemples, i'm curious) demo 'bout this subject/approch...)
Lotta peepz here to talk about rape & women, but curiously not so much crowd there to just say at least "Oh ? There's a demo like this ? Cool..." ;)
(Ok the demo isn't so wonderfull [pretty fair for VCS i'll say héhé] but I haven't seen much (or even another one, but if you got exemples, i'm curious) demo 'bout this subject/approch...)
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Well...
Lotta peepz here to talk about rape & women, but curiously not so much crowd there to just say at least "Oh ? There's a demo like this ? Cool..." ;)
(Ok the demo isn't so wonderfull [pretty fair for VCS i'll say héhé] but I haven't seen much (or even another one, but if you got exemples, i'm curious) demo 'bout this subject/approch...)
And can cross-advertising / attention-whoring get any more lame?
I just discover this prod, thumb up :)
(love the title too ;)
(love the title too ;)
mama mia
Thumbs up for freedom of speech, thumbs down for sjw crap :)
When clicking on youtube, I get commericals for Maserati and an animal hospice. Interesting combination.
LOL thread! THIS is winding up people, really? Fine by me, haha. Art, but doesn't mean it's good. Looks like the stuff on Amiga I didn't like back then.
LOL thread! THIS is winding up people, really? Fine by me, haha. Art, but doesn't mean it's good. Looks like the stuff on Amiga I didn't like back then.
glop
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Title and what kb said
DAMNATIO•MEMORIAE
...or how I became a hypocrite
It's really interesting how up until 2008 it was all "fun and banter", eh
Good grief, people. Get a life and learn how to stomach a bad joke.
...or how I became a hypocrite
It's really interesting how up until 2008 it was all "fun and banter", eh
Good grief, people. Get a life and learn how to stomach a bad joke.
glöp
I said incredibly stupid things in the past, probably way too many to remember them all but after a few years I realized how stupid it was and I somehow grew out of it. No thumb down from me as it was probably a very stupid careless teenager joke and it's pointless to judge it 25 years later.
That being said, it's unfortunately a very good example of why we have so few females in the video games industry for example. I lost count of how many female coworkers told me about the stupid sexist jokes they had to endure at work, the totally unacceptable behavior of some male coworkers at the office, how they had to do twice the amount of work of a male coworker to get the same level or recognition and the promotions, how they had to deal with harassment with usually little to no help, etc.
So yeah, to some people belonging to the Demoscene community composed of 95% (99%?) of males, it might just be a LOL joke that the mean "SJWs" are condemning for no reason, but for some people it's the hard cold reality they have to endure at work every day until they decide to resign to join another industry.
That being said, it's unfortunately a very good example of why we have so few females in the video games industry for example. I lost count of how many female coworkers told me about the stupid sexist jokes they had to endure at work, the totally unacceptable behavior of some male coworkers at the office, how they had to do twice the amount of work of a male coworker to get the same level or recognition and the promotions, how they had to deal with harassment with usually little to no help, etc.
So yeah, to some people belonging to the Demoscene community composed of 95% (99%?) of males, it might just be a LOL joke that the mean "SJWs" are condemning for no reason, but for some people it's the hard cold reality they have to endure at work every day until they decide to resign to join another industry.
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“Regular people” (or “the mid”) is a concept created by the alt-right in an attempt to normalize itself.
See folks, unlike the title of this prod, *this* is how you do clever humor. 10/10 for the on-point caricature. :D
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Quote:“Regular people” (or “the mid”) is a concept created by the alt-right in an attempt to normalize itself.
See folks, unlike the title of this prod, *this* is how you do clever humor. 10/10 for the on-point caricature. :D
You can call it clever, but this is definitely not humour. You must be fun at parties VileR... ;)
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