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RetroVision by Insane [web]
screenshot added by vedder-ins on 2017-04-17 00:47:57
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release date : april 2017
release party : Revision 2017
compo : amiga demo
ranked : 8th
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added on the 2017-04-17 00:47:57 by vedder-ins vedder-ins

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Not bad :)
rulez added on the 2017-04-17 01:48:30 by Sapphire Sapphire
Nice! Great music!
rulez added on the 2017-04-17 01:52:54 by Mystra Mystra
Oldskooooooool
rulez added on the 2017-04-17 08:56:38 by Triace Triace
True oldchool prod!!
rulez added on the 2017-04-17 10:19:30 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
Good effects. I love the music.
Very well done!
rulez added on the 2017-04-17 13:21:14 by ham ham
Pure oldskool! \o/
rulez added on the 2017-04-17 13:35:46 by sachy sachy
Says not enough memory available on plain A600 /w 2mb Chipmem
added on the 2017-04-17 13:37:10 by bifat bifat
@bifat, I think you need some fastmem as well. Magnus can maybe confirm that?
Hard to read scrollers but a kewl demo
rulez added on the 2017-04-17 14:19:54 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
Pacing could and should be better, otherwise OK.
added on the 2017-04-17 14:53:24 by StingRay StingRay
Fastmem or FakeFast is necessary to make this demo to run, it doesn't matter how much chip you got you still ned fastmem, so you are right Vedder.
added on the 2017-04-17 14:59:57 by Magnus_T Magnus_T
This was OK. Seemed to spend too much time on scrollers and the remaining content wasn't particularly engaging.
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Fastmem or FakeFast is necessary to make this demo to run


@Magnus_T: My prod did have the same problem but it was just a couple of sections mistakenly declared as bss_f and data_f instead of bss_p and data_p so it's now fixed. I don't know if that's your case. Do you really need FakeFast for your demo to run?
added on the 2017-04-17 23:54:58 by ham ham
addictive track
rulez added on the 2017-04-18 00:05:38 by 1in10 1in10
Yes i know did something awful with this demo, i forced the demo to the fastmem with a "section" instruction which means all of those who only has chip memory in their computers will be excluded to watch this demo, but didn't do it to be mean, i did it because i need to do it and i was lazy to code it system friendly. As long as you start it from the original diskett and don't start it from the WB and have some fast memory, it should work even work on an aga computer without turning off the Cache. Next time i code a demo/intro i won't do nasty coding again. I really appreciate that you try to give me advice. Thanks :D
added on the 2017-04-18 01:31:48 by Magnus_T Magnus_T
Of course I'd respect your (artistic or otherwise) freedom not to do so, but I can make it to work here on both A500 (512k+512k) and A600 (2mb chip) if I remove the fastmem bit from the section header (so byte $14 in the executable reads $00 instead of $80, effectively turning your section code_f into section code). Fastmem is preferred by the OS loader anyway, so by making fastmem explicit you are needlessly excluding stock A500+, A600, A1200, later A2000. If I'm not mistaken, the fix is just one bit away. :-)
added on the 2017-04-18 07:28:39 by bifat bifat
Hi Bifat!, I guess it's pure luck that you manage to get the demo to run on only chipmem by changing that single bit you are talking about, so the demo itself can can decide if it should load to chip or fast, but i can reveal to you nasty thing with this demo. When the demo starts, it copy it self to fixed address in lower part of the chip memory (the first 512kb of chipmem). Why you manage to get it to work on a 2mb chip computer is that you probably filled up the first 512kb of chip memory with programs or data before you starts it, so the he main code fortunately loads itself above (hex)800000, if it doesn't i will write the code over itself and cause a "guru medidtation"... Bifat i have seen your demos so i know that you are a very talented coder so i know that you know what you are talking about. May i add you on FB? ;)
added on the 2017-04-18 11:36:51 by Magnus_T Magnus_T
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Hi Bifat!, I guess it's pure luck that you manage to get the demo to run on only chipmem by changing that single bit you are talking about, so the demo itself can can decide if it should load to chip or fast, but i can reveal to you nasty thing with this demo. When the demo starts, it copy it self to fixed address in lower part of the chip memory (the first 512kb of chipmem). Why you manage to get it to work on a 2mb chip computer is that you probably filled up the first 512kb of chip memory with programs or data before you starts it, so the he main code fortunately loads itself above (hex)80000, if it doesn't i will write the code over itself and cause a "guru medidtation"... Bifat i have seen your demos so i know that you are a very talented coder so i know that you know what you are talking about. May i add you on FB? ;)
added on the 2017-04-18 11:44:01 by Magnus_T Magnus_T
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When the demo starts, it copy it self to fixed address in lower part of the chip memory


Why are you doing this?
added on the 2017-04-18 11:48:51 by StingRay StingRay
I liked it
rulez added on the 2017-04-18 11:50:49 by EviL EviL
Hi Magnus, of course you could add me to FB - if I was using FB, or any other social media. Your explanation makes sense, but since your demo doesn't exit, after disabling all interrupts, caches and DMA, you could also copy yourself to somewhere else without risk of a crash by looking if your destination is in front or behind you, and do a (possibly) overlapping copy. Or you could relocate yourself to address $100 or even $0 (which is always in front of you). Everything is allowed that works ;-)
added on the 2017-04-18 11:59:34 by bifat bifat
Hi Stingray! Why? 50% of the code is 5 years old when i just started to code again on the Amiga, speed gaining, laziness and that i know 99% won't use real Amigas to run it.
added on the 2017-04-18 13:34:20 by Magnus_T Magnus_T
Bifat, you've some neat ideas that i like a lot. I will go back to the code and see what i can do to make all those only chip-memory owners happy ;) Heard you had Slack seems to be a good media instead of chatting on this site ;)
added on the 2017-04-18 14:50:19 by Magnus_T Magnus_T
Too slow but not too bad, real retro logos and fonts indeed :)
added on the 2017-04-19 08:03:17 by Serpent Serpent
this was basically a collection of insanely slow and tedious ways of presenting text
Thx got this working with tude fakefast on my CD32. Really oldschool vibe to it with the balls and vectors, still decent worth a watch!
rulez added on the 2017-04-19 13:55:31 by amigajay amigajay
Great on my real A600. Really like the floating characters in the last credits screen, neat effect.
rulez added on the 2017-04-22 02:53:01 by marksmanuk marksmanuk
ok prod. i like the music.
rulez added on the 2017-04-23 17:30:44 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
oldschool and smooth !!
rulez added on the 2017-04-23 17:38:29 by Virgill Virgill
The archive has been updated with a version that does not require any fast mem. Will work on a500+, a600 etc with only chipmem.
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Thumb up for the fix.
added on the 2017-04-25 23:48:47 by ham ham
Cool, thanks!
added on the 2017-04-26 08:30:08 by bifat bifat
Thanks for the update!
added on the 2017-04-26 09:34:18 by amigajay amigajay
stock retro
added on the 2017-05-04 23:49:32 by noname noname
Awaited final. ;) Yes, OCS/ECS 1MB is the platform! <3

Well-made with transitions, seen before - but getting routines out is nothing but positive! (Guilty as charged, mwhahahh ;) )

Less solid prods have been voted up for just the music - which is good but would have been perfect for like a crack intro, next time kickass demo music for demos! Deal? :)
added on the 2017-05-10 23:35:01 by Photon Photon
Nice
rulez added on the 2017-05-25 04:29:20 by cxw cxw
pure oldskool
rulez added on the 2017-05-28 10:57:34 by jeffrey jeffrey
Nice.
rulez added on the 2018-04-11 20:46:52 by Buckethead Buckethead
nice :)
rulez added on the 2018-04-19 23:59:40 by keito keito
Demo is OK. Not very engaging though. Chip tune is boring as hell. It made me sleepy somewhere after two minutes.
added on the 2020-01-02 09:51:30 by mailman mailman
This demo is a joy to behold on the real machine. Slow pacing, fast routines, and it radiates some kind of old wisdom. And it loops! I found the slow buildup and labyrinthine themes in the soundtrack especially enjoyable.
added on the 2022-11-15 16:07:33 by bifat bifat
missing thumb
rulez added on the 2022-11-15 16:08:01 by bifat bifat
It was enjoyable.
rulez added on the 2023-01-01 19:35:42 by spkr spkr
Nice retro feeling
rulez added on the 2023-01-01 19:47:20 by keops keops

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