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Great ideas and style!
rulez added on the 2008-03-24 23:03:32 by ltk_tscc
Piggy until i have confirmation that at least something in here is realtime. Nice style, though.
Excellent concept, even when it obviously uses animation/video. But at least it has a point here.
Cute, but I can imagine why they would want to give the prize to Elude..
Nice ideas
What xeron said O_o
Cute idea, but definitely something for the Animation compo. Overall execution is so-so.
Even tho this demo certainly isn't bad, the name-voting at BP really gave me some pain in the stomach.
Nice move from drifters tho.
Even tho this demo certainly isn't bad, the name-voting at BP really gave me some pain in the stomach.
Nice move from drifters tho.
VERY enjoyable party prod! Just made me smile from start to end. :)
btw. Just because this wasn't as technically nice as Elude's, doesn't mean you didn't still deserve the prize! It's a "feel good" party winner, which is why it won!
btw. Just because this wasn't as technically nice as Elude's, doesn't mean you didn't still deserve the prize! It's a "feel good" party winner, which is why it won!
Cute little prod and nice ideas. Fun to watch and that's what it is all about.
Kudos to Drifters for giving up their #1 (wise decision :)
Kudos to Drifters for giving up their #1 (wise decision :)
not a party winner for me, but rather a nice anniversary thingie..
Lovely idea well executed
quite fun with a good concept, but not that good implementation. and where was the '88 mullet?
Very enjoyable, the split-screen/era idea is cool.
cool idea, but nothing special
not my cup..
The split idea was great.
Nice concept. thumbs up for the effort.
I hope it's a joke production as it looks like you haven't got very far in 20 years
xeron: What makes you think it isn't running in realtime? I didn't see any effect a '060 amiga can't handle in there. Sure it doesn't have one of those proprietary nvidia GPUs but none of the effects needed much horsepower.
Thumbs up for the nice idea + giving away the 1st price.
Thumbs up for the nice idea + giving away the 1st price.
how could this get first place?
this is not a bad demo. at least the part that actually -is- demo. over half is just an animation!
the splitscreen is a good idea and there are some effects which were common on 030 amiga demos.
just a hint: dot tunnels are not 1988, i think they are early 90's. and envmapped objects in tunnels were hot in 1998.
sorry for being such a bitch about it. the effects obviously are solid and well presented.
this is not a bad demo. at least the part that actually -is- demo. over half is just an animation!
the splitscreen is a good idea and there are some effects which were common on 030 amiga demos.
just a hint: dot tunnels are not 1988, i think they are early 90's. and envmapped objects in tunnels were hot in 1998.
sorry for being such a bitch about it. the effects obviously are solid and well presented.
yes!
Piggy until i have confirmation that at least something in here is realtime. Nice style, though.
added on the 2008-03-24 by xeron [xeron]
What xeron said O_o
added on the 2008-03-24 by burgrlovr [burgrlovr]
I am actually quite surprised that you as coders don't see that actually everything except the ham8 mpeg part (which is actually a part of the concept) is realtime here... (it even features a blitter scroll, how about that? ;D) yes, asmpro for the win... and yes, coded by yours truly.
earx: I do know that dot tunnels weren't made in '88 but what the hell, call it artistic freedom. ;)
added on the 2008-03-24 by xeron [xeron]
What xeron said O_o
added on the 2008-03-24 by burgrlovr [burgrlovr]
I am actually quite surprised that you as coders don't see that actually everything except the ham8 mpeg part (which is actually a part of the concept) is realtime here... (it even features a blitter scroll, how about that? ;D) yes, asmpro for the win... and yes, coded by yours truly.
earx: I do know that dot tunnels weren't made in '88 but what the hell, call it artistic freedom. ;)
that was ham8? ok, cool :)
Sting0rz leet HAM8 output signal making capture equipment go "WTF!? no valid signal" :D
:D
Music!
totally agree with Grimmy. It was fun to watch it.
Indeed nice show, worked well on the big screen!
thumb for using HAM8 then.
respect guys. anyway, nice concept.
nice concept but really didnt deserve to win. nice gesture at the prize giving, thats real scene spirit.
@StingRay
OK, then it rules :D
OK, then it rules :D
...not to say that the "then" video scene is not vintage but reenacted material. As Clary told me they looked for a house/flat that matched the old living place ... that's dedication!
i liked it a lot actually.. its safe to say thats it is the best drifters thing i have seen :)
kudos for showing very good sportsmanship at the awards ceremony too!
kudos for showing very good sportsmanship at the awards ceremony too!
I like the idea of the screen split very much and it's very well done.
i really like the idea and as nic0 said: best drifters demo so far.
sting: you did a pretty good job! now some scarab code plzzzz =)))
sting: you did a pretty good job! now some scarab code plzzzz =)))
Nice one and double thumbs up for prize"giving"
thumb up for the demo and extra thumb for the attitude at the price giving ceremony.
Pure scene spirit at prize ceremony.
It was also nice to see you all !
It was also nice to see you all !
Respect.
scicco: your wish is my order, now that my a4k is finally back in action and I don't have to resort to fuckz0ring UAE for coding anymore I'll do something for the thing we spoke about at bp! :)
xeron: thanks =)
xeron: thanks =)
Perhaps it did not contain as hardcore code than Soliloquy, but it was solid enough on the design and realisation department to deserve a good position in the compo :)
So, it took you guys 20 years to do a polyfiller+envmap? ;)
thumbs up for the idea, and for making the prizegiving fair.
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So, it took you guys 20 years to do a polyfiller+envmap? ;)
maybe it took them 20 years to find someone who can do envmapping and polyfillers ;D
/me hides =)
has good spirit and is well done.
respect for clary (and the rest of the members too) for being such a fair person.
Great!
Best drifters demo I have yet seen. I like the split screen idea very much, but the video at the beginning doesn't catch me. It's a good idea but it's looks pretty amateurish.
@selectanovel: well, the video at the beginning may only catch people who did some swapping back in the days. Waiting for mister postman every morning or checking your mailbox 20 times a day, waiting for floppies full of new demos to watch or fanzines to read. That was fun :)
Oh crap! I feel old now!
Oh crap! I feel old now!
no, this is not very good.
didnt catch me, piggy
Typically Drifters. The idea is nice but an animation that lasts 50% of total time to start the demo is a bit too much. "back in 88" we just told that in an up-scroller.
I would thumb this up, but I have reasons for a piggy - so there.
I would thumb this up, but I have reasons for a piggy - so there.
Fuckings for not giving me credit for the GFX
fuckings for giving out fuckings without trying to clear up what happened first.
seriously, as already mentioned in the other thread where you had to send out your fuckings as well, the only reason why there's no .nfo yet is because the ascii is missing. as soon as it's finished, there'll be an .nfo and you'll be credited for your gfx of course.
seriously, as already mentioned in the other thread where you had to send out your fuckings as well, the only reason why there's no .nfo yet is because the ascii is missing. as soon as it's finished, there'll be an .nfo and you'll be credited for your gfx of course.
StingRay: Check the other thread.
I did ;)
That being said, nice demo, good idea.
The only incident at breakpoint where I felt really bad was when the whole crowd were booing at their own votes.
I am just so damn happy that it was not me on that stage.
Big cudos to Drifters for handling the situation well.
I think it was a really nice 20th anniversary thingy with some nice ideas.
I am just so damn happy that it was not me on that stage.
Big cudos to Drifters for handling the situation well.
I think it was a really nice 20th anniversary thingy with some nice ideas.
This was an alternative approach of an Amiga demo.
When I first saw the movie-part I was quite suspecious, but as the 3.5" disks were in both streams I got the point ;)
Nice to see some effects, and a well-executed idea - but you know my favourite in this compo ;)
When I first saw the movie-part I was quite suspecious, but as the 3.5" disks were in both streams I got the point ;)
Nice to see some effects, and a well-executed idea - but you know my favourite in this compo ;)
the effects wasn't all that nice, but the concept and design is worthy of a thumb
nice use of video in the beginning.
and alltogether a nice production.
happy 20years to you all. :)
and alltogether a nice production.
happy 20years to you all. :)
i really liked it, but it's strange that it got the first place (probably ppl were too tired from all the hq 3d stuff? :D)
I respect a lot the nice gesture that they made during the prize ceremony.
By the way, I must say that I felt shocked when this demo won the compo instead of Elude's one, but I felt more shocked (and very embarrased) when some people starting to "booing" while Clary and Stingray where on the stage.
Anyway, this demo was enjoyable in the bigscreen. It has a few cute ideas and a good mood but the splitscreen was a little bit boring after a while.
Next time, just try to do not use too much video in your demo.
By the way, I must say that I felt shocked when this demo won the compo instead of Elude's one, but I felt more shocked (and very embarrased) when some people starting to "booing" while Clary and Stingray where on the stage.
Anyway, this demo was enjoyable in the bigscreen. It has a few cute ideas and a good mood but the splitscreen was a little bit boring after a while.
Next time, just try to do not use too much video in your demo.
what ham said
Because you're who y'all are (:
Great concept well executed. The concurrent videos handing over to concurrent effects is fantastic.
extremely overrated again. this could be shown in wild compo, as comparing to elude's production it looks like piece of shit.
get a life and stop faking votes!
get a life and stop faking votes!
Thumbs up for still being alive as a group for 20 years.
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extremely overrated again. this could be shown in wild compo, as comparing to elude's production it looks like piece of shit.
Now, oh great and wise Azzaro, please tell me, what exactly does this make a wild demo? The fact that it has a video part? And while we all agree that the Elude demo was better I actually think, the only thing that's shitty here is your comment! It might be you who should get a life and stop talking BS.
As we say in Denmark: "Shut up, and do a demo!" ;)
Oh, and that was meant as a comment to Azzaro.
I love the concept. Maybe the video on the start should have been a little shorter.
The video part is a bit too long but otherwise it's a solid demo, with a very good design! I don't understand why it brought about such a fuss.
i liked the idea and split screen design! nice work stingray
great style.
won fair and square. I like the concept and the movies in the first part. But i would have liked the effects to be more authentic... it get's boring that the only difference between 88 and 08 is wireframe contra texturemapping
Fantastic idea, but not so well executed. I think a demo like this would be better suited to the PC where you can really contrast modern day effects with old ones.
Just a pig.
Just a pig.
I like this demo - it's fun.
should have won, oh wait... :D
The overall idea is nice though I found it a bit short when it came to the proper demo part. Birthdays are cool anyway :-)
fuckin' nice. I love it <3
Wasn't too happy about seeing this win. Didn't enjoy it one bit really.
I feel i should explain about my initial comment.
I watched the compo on the stream, but when i saw the video part i thought it was probably going to be another all-animation drifters demo, and kind of only half paid attention for the rest of it. I didn't realise stingray had coded it, and i missed quite a lot of the effects.
I have nothing against drifters (the total opposite, i think they're great :-).
Can't seem to watch it on my a1200, though, seems my 40" bravia doesn't like the HAM8 mpeg player for some reason.
I watched the compo on the stream, but when i saw the video part i thought it was probably going to be another all-animation drifters demo, and kind of only half paid attention for the rest of it. I didn't realise stingray had coded it, and i missed quite a lot of the effects.
I have nothing against drifters (the total opposite, i think they're great :-).
Can't seem to watch it on my a1200, though, seems my 40" bravia doesn't like the HAM8 mpeg player for some reason.
Xeron: don't worry, I understood why you wrote your comment. ;) Anyway, what happens in the ham8 part?
i like the split screen idea, but i am not very impressed by the execution
@StingRay
It all goes dark and fuzzy, and the TV loses sync. Do you switch to 60Hz or do some crazy copper magic?
It all goes dark and fuzzy, and the TV loses sync. Do you switch to 60Hz or do some crazy copper magic?
Xeron: hmm, weird, no copper magic involved except for normal scanline doubling. You might have the same problem the video capturing hardware at BP had. ;) Once I'm back home I'll change the download link to a slightly modified version which could be captured. Might solve the problem for you too.
cute demo ..
but can the polish (amiga sceners at least) nothing else but whine about not winning when they do something .. incredible .. all the posters around at bp were a joke, and not a funny one
but can the polish (amiga sceners at least) nothing else but whine about not winning when they do something .. incredible .. all the posters around at bp were a joke, and not a funny one
Concept execution was quite fresh as an idea and I enjoyed it unlike most of the amiga compo entries in the compo. Shouldn't have won of course but greetings for giving out the place. :)
movie comparision,
greta techno music,
Then: wireframe 3D cubes,
Now: 3D texture mapped 3D cube,
Then: dots tunnel, 3D vectors filled
Now: texture mapped, plasma tunnel, texture mapped 3Ds,
Then: diskette picture, greetings
Now: CD picture, greetings
3D planets, then wireframe, now texture mapped
greta techno music,
Then: wireframe 3D cubes,
Now: 3D texture mapped 3D cube,
Then: dots tunnel, 3D vectors filled
Now: texture mapped, plasma tunnel, texture mapped 3Ds,
Then: diskette picture, greetings
Now: CD picture, greetings
3D planets, then wireframe, now texture mapped
I like the idea a lot.
i really liked the idea...!
and i was really impressed by your step of giving away the first price...
even if it was a public choise... that shows repect of the others work...!
and i was really impressed by your step of giving away the first price...
even if it was a public choise... that shows repect of the others work...!
Great idea, great music, very nice effects!!!!
Thumb up for 20 years!
Cosy nostalgia trip :)
Cosy nostalgia trip :)
and ham8 video! we need more ham8! :)
if anyone wants the soundtrack, it's here :) http://www.payne-music.net/songs/payne_drifters_twenty.ogg
added it :)
oh and an interesting fact. the whole second part of the music is done with the brain control 64k synth tunefish v2 :)
"Typical" Drifters prod as it's again nothing special, but the good spirit of it compensates for that easily.
Happy 20th \o/
Happy 20th \o/
Cheesy crap
Nice move from clary and the drifters. but I really enjoyed this one most... brings back good old memories!
in the beginning i was wondering what that video stuff is all about and then i got it and loved it instantly.. great idea with the splitscreen :)
Nice idea! congratz!
But where is lowlife in reminding the last 20 years ? :)
But where is lowlife in reminding the last 20 years ? :)
Loved it. Great concept, well-executed. :)
nice ideas in here! Keep em coming!
Like it! Fun to watch, and apparently good code as well!
Stingray: The ham-problem may sound a bit like a problem we had with DeepPan.
Perhaps you by mistake have set the SOG-bit in the HAM part?
Some monitors don't care, while others get confused and looses sync.
Perhaps you by mistake have set the SOG-bit in the HAM part?
Some monitors don't care, while others get confused and looses sync.
lemmus: I don't exactly know what the cause of the problem is, as I had no possibility to reproduce the bug at BP, I just gave 3 versions to the organiser, each with a slightly modified copperlist. One of them apparently was working correctly and could be captured (the very same version fixed the problem for Xeron too), I just didn't bother to check what I actually changed in the copperlist yet. ;)
Ok. I guess the problem is the SOGEN bit
in BPLCON2 - that signals the sync signal to be added to the green signal.
in BPLCON2 - that signals the sync signal to be added to the green signal.
Neat production, as usual from Drifters, but it's doesn't REALLY get me going, though....
Congratz on the anniversary anyway and respect for handing over the 1st prize to Elude - an admirable gesture!
Congratz on the anniversary anyway and respect for handing over the 1st prize to Elude - an admirable gesture!
i liked this ;)
great style. :D
![[HamsTeR]](https://content.pouet.net/avatars/cyber.cow_mini_16x16.gif)
i found the first part a bit long
otherwise really great
otherwise really great
Ehm video link not working. I saw it on BP and ... kudos x miglia :)
great
Nice
20 years, the comparison of back then vs now, the music.. it made me quite emotional! Nice job.
another one becomes 20 years... =)
well nice turn from the drifters to give the price to the "true" winner. maybe its time to think about "voting systems on parties etc..."
apart from this, keep on your good mood and go for the next 20 years. ;-)
well nice turn from the drifters to give the price to the "true" winner. maybe its time to think about "voting systems on parties etc..."
apart from this, keep on your good mood and go for the next 20 years. ;-)
happy 20 years to the coolest Amiga crew I have met ! (and by the way, nice idea !)
Great concept. There is no real evolution ;).
have not thumbed?
thumbup! very nice stuff! :)
Original idea! However I'm not a fan of pop-trance music, adpcm no less. Should have been a lot better with something more electro wise. But that's just me. Good work boys.
OK demo, but not so amazing as everybody says (I am sorry, it shouldn't have win the BP08).
like the music but it's not a prod that I'll watch again.
<3
Best I've seen in a long while.
OF COURSE !
Funny idea! :)
love
Very good demo, fresh and entertaining.
Kool idea, and kool demo.
But can't belive it won? Namevoting fow showe.
But can't belive it won? Namevoting fow showe.
Cool :)
Very nice idea!
Cool idea and the music mid way threw is just superb!
Great idea!!
Very nice idea as a demo - I like the effects and I think decoding video on a 060 in ham8 is no small feat regarding that the complete demo size is only 16MB
nice idea with the split screen. and what a lovely tune :)
Lovely concept and great execution! Music is a bit bland though.
like the parallel video idea and the credits part, but middle part is painful to watch.
Nice concept!
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