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rulez added on the 2005-12-29 04:10:39 by Preacher
Reminds me the Iron Giant (animated film)
fix the link please.
Nice, even if very unfinished
Nice work! Also reminds me about "The Iron Giant", wicked to see something hitting your face!
very nice. final final final!
404?
broken link?
temporary link
(which got censored by pouet admins upon request of the creators.. a video of the partyversion will come very soon since the prod _was_ released, RIGHT BLACK MAIDEN?)
(which got censored by pouet admins upon request of the creators.. a video of the partyversion will come very soon since the prod _was_ released, RIGHT BLACK MAIDEN?)
this version is NOT TO BE SPREAD. gargaj, please remove the temp link.
oh well.
since people insist on NOT spreading a version that was viewed at the compo, i removed the link.
btw the demo is pretty confusing, i really dont get what its about... nice shading though.
since people insist on NOT spreading a version that was viewed at the compo, i removed the link.
btw the demo is pretty confusing, i really dont get what its about... nice shading though.
where's the promised better version?
thumb up when the better version comes.. promises so much but fails to deliver in this partyversion.
please have patience until the week after new year.
Cant believe this crap won...just a bad 3d player :)
waiting for the final before judging it.
I prefer to see the party version...
i hope the final shall be much much much better coz this is... almost bad ;P
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(which got censored by pouet admins upon request of the creators.. a video of the partyversion will come very soon since the prod _was_ released, RIGHT BLACK MAIDEN?)
I didnt write that.
http://mojs.tk/~aleen/Black_Maiden_-_Concrete.rar
The party version of the demo can be found here. Available for people who wanna see what really won at the party, and not some cover up in retrospect.
Doing a final version is fine, but the original version should still be available for people to see. If you're not fine with this, then it shouldn't be released at all until it's done.
It's very tempting to thumb down this attempted cover up, but i'll wait with the thumbs until the final version.
The party version of the demo can be found here. Available for people who wanna see what really won at the party, and not some cover up in retrospect.
Doing a final version is fine, but the original version should still be available for people to see. If you're not fine with this, then it shouldn't be released at all until it's done.
It's very tempting to thumb down this attempted cover up, but i'll wait with the thumbs until the final version.
i have to agree.
I don't
a_lee_n: damn you all, for doing such a nasty move like pointing out someone's unfinished work. Place yourself as an author of this demo and think that such actions doesn't help you in finishing it. You're a glop trader and nothing else.
Thumb up already, and I will watch party version after the final.
Keep working guys :)
Thumb up already, and I will watch party version after the final.
Keep working guys :)
cool demo, but it looks a bit unfinished. (well, NO SHIT SHERLOCK...)
If it's unfinished and totally unreleasable/unwatchable, why enter it at a party at all? Personally I have nothing against final and improved versions, but I want to see what the demos in the compo looked like. Especially if they won.
Well... If you won't release the thing, i'll have to judge by the screenshot...
Let's see..
The screenshot promises yet another boring 3d demo, and i'm really getting close to hating all those. Thus, a thumb down (also highly affected by not releasing the compo winner but a makeover compo winner)
Let's see..
The screenshot promises yet another boring 3d demo, and i'm really getting close to hating all those. Thus, a thumb down (also highly affected by not releasing the compo winner but a makeover compo winner)
the visuals look promising but the "music" is totally unfitting and badly executed. go for the final! :)
BM can do better.
some nice stuff in here, but in total it didn't catch me.
pigface this time, let's see for the final :)
some nice stuff in here, but in total it didn't catch me.
pigface this time, let's see for the final :)
bonzaj: May i remind you about a few of the compo rules at TUM..
They did, in fact, release THIS version at the party.. if they are going to pretend they didn't, they might aswell give the price money (if any) to the runner up. I do not condone with this kind of censorship at all, people deserve to see what really won in the demo compo.
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With contributing to a competition, you automatically agree that we'll spread your entry. You should have a look on your file(s) once before you upload them to our ftp or burning them on CD-Rom. Are all the files/filenames the correct ones? Is there a proper file_id.diz included? Better check that out first.
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Disregard of the rules will result in disqualification.
They did, in fact, release THIS version at the party.. if they are going to pretend they didn't, they might aswell give the price money (if any) to the runner up. I do not condone with this kind of censorship at all, people deserve to see what really won in the demo compo.
the screenshot looked promising but the story aint good enough, and some of the animations makes it all just look silly
the robot model was ok.
the rest of the 3d was pretty awful, the animations were bad (except for the "physics" - plugin job?). looks like the same code as 3 years ago, as well. disappointing.
the rest of the 3d was pretty awful, the animations were bad (except for the "physics" - plugin job?). looks like the same code as 3 years ago, as well. disappointing.
excellent tune, ok visuals. not a winner for me, but nice still.
too bad about the stubborn attitude. guys, you released it at a party. you know, released. gave out. spread. released.
i don't at all see the logic in not wanting people to see a prod but showing it to 200 of them grouped together at a party anyway. do you want them to see it or not?
too bad about the stubborn attitude. guys, you released it at a party. you know, released. gave out. spread. released.
i don't at all see the logic in not wanting people to see a prod but showing it to 200 of them grouped together at a party anyway. do you want them to see it or not?
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a_lee_n: damn you all, for doing such a nasty move like pointing out someone's unfinished work.
"Nasty"? I want to see EXACTLY the same thing that was shown at the compo and WON it, not what WOULD have been or what's SUPPOSED to be. Did the authors ask you to turn away from the screen at the party when it was shown and tell you to "wait for the final"? How did it win then?
If a demo wins, I want to see why, regardless of it's state - it's that simple.
It's not like it's a leaked commercial game where the release date is still months away...
It's a demo which was released at a party, won it and therefore should be and supposed to be spread, just like it states in the compo rules. If you don't obey the rules, you're out. End of story.
Good stuff. Especially physics and robot models.
It was good enough to release at the party. It was good enough to win the compo. It was even so good that the makers of the demo didn't forfit the compo placement.
So WHY on earth isn't it good enough to release online, as it was when it competed?
If now there is an option to get "old sins" removed from the net I would like to submit a list of releases I did in my past days I'm not so proud of anymore. Who is in charge? Who is the demoscene moderator?
So WHY on earth isn't it good enough to release online, as it was when it competed?
If now there is an option to get "old sins" removed from the net I would like to submit a list of releases I did in my past days I'm not so proud of anymore. Who is in charge? Who is the demoscene moderator?
Thumb down for:
* Filesize.
* Animations.
* Entering something into a compo and then not releasing the version shown.
Lame.
* Filesize.
* Animations.
* Entering something into a compo and then not releasing the version shown.
Lame.
cute demo btw
music and visuals are quite nice, although the last scenes do give me a feeling that the demo is unfinished (probably underlined by the scene with that "we promise a better version" text).
the code seems to be rather good as well, can't really judge that, but since it runs pretty smooth here on my machine, i just subjectivly assume that. (nobody seems to care for nice code anyway :P)
stop whining about spreading (this just would make you the true winner of the "pirated demo compo") since there is not much to be ashamed of, and make a goddamn final! :) i'm impatiently waiting for it.
the code seems to be rather good as well, can't really judge that, but since it runs pretty smooth here on my machine, i just subjectivly assume that. (nobody seems to care for nice code anyway :P)
stop whining about spreading (this just would make you the true winner of the "pirated demo compo") since there is not much to be ashamed of, and make a goddamn final! :) i'm impatiently waiting for it.
Gargaj: ok, I get the point. The reason behind writing my previous post is quite simple. After Evoke Pandur/BM has supressed the release of "Final Audition" so I had two more days to finish the details. But we had only some compatibility problems with geForces, so it was easy enough to release it without major changes, comparing to the party version. End of story.
tune sucksthe robots looks cool but they are boring and the rest ehm.. no thanks : (
hm, the track is not really my taste, more annoying than pleasing. in addition, it didn't sound very mastered.. maybe this was due to the speakers and shit. i don't know.
whatever, the robotmodel was quite nice, the style of your overlays is absolutely outstanding, but too repetitive scenes, faked (exported) physics (?), and if there was a point in the story, i didn't get it. or maybe its another one of the "hey, there's no point, but it will actually look like there is one." releases...
humm.... one shader looked quite unrealistic (reflected grass) some others were great.
it's nice to see a release again from BM, but i really expected something better... a basically nice demo, but not a winner. there were better ones.
ah, i hope the final version will be better. if i'd take this as a preview, i'd say it is very promising. but not as a release, sorry.
whatever, the robotmodel was quite nice, the style of your overlays is absolutely outstanding, but too repetitive scenes, faked (exported) physics (?), and if there was a point in the story, i didn't get it. or maybe its another one of the "hey, there's no point, but it will actually look like there is one." releases...
humm.... one shader looked quite unrealistic (reflected grass) some others were great.
it's nice to see a release again from BM, but i really expected something better... a basically nice demo, but not a winner. there were better ones.
ah, i hope the final version will be better. if i'd take this as a preview, i'd say it is very promising. but not as a release, sorry.
Music is like unpolished, robot animations are pretty awful, some models don't fit the scene at all and I don't get the story (if there's any).
Or maybe it's just not my cup of tea, as all in all it has it's effort... Hope final is better, a piggie for now
Or maybe it's just not my cup of tea, as all in all it has it's effort... Hope final is better, a piggie for now
Very good!
The music fits the atmosphere. Maybe you should also credit (dj?) starshrider, since the tune is a remix of "starshrider - voodoo". Robots look very stylish...
The music fits the atmosphere. Maybe you should also credit (dj?) starshrider, since the tune is a remix of "starshrider - voodoo". Robots look very stylish...
just read partly the comments, i think that original version are uploaded by orgas on scene.org, so if people upload another here it shouldnt be a big problem, especially when "people" is the creator... anyway going to watch it
all hail a_lee_n!
the demo in its current form is... meh, ok.
the demo in its current form is... meh, ok.
releasing a completly unfinished prod at a party and then release a new demo afterwards is nothing new. often its because of stupid democompo rules (size restriction or compability reasons).
but.. still i dont care, i mean i dont care. not about this prod anyways, its prolly all booring and black maidenish anyways.
but.. still i dont care, i mean i dont care. not about this prod anyways, its prolly all booring and black maidenish anyways.
well. nice robot-model. but lack of story, i dont liked the music.
were can we download it? i can't find it anywhere!?
jae686: I posted the link a bit further up.. but here it is again, for easy download.
http://mojs.tk/~aleen/Black_Maiden_-_Concrete.rar
http://mojs.tk/~aleen/Black_Maiden_-_Concrete.rar
When I tried to run it, all I got was a dialog window entitled "Oh no!" with the text "FUCK!!!" written in it. Have I missed something?
what a_lee_n, gargaj, oenone said..
fuckings to bm for such acting..
fuckings to bm for such acting..
oh no! Fuck. = Thumb down. Muahahaha!
attitude
...Bad
how run this demo???
what is a black maiden anyway? some kind of relative of iron maiden?
Not running here.
I can understand delaying release a little to fix some nasty bugs etc., but there should be some kind of cap on the time taken.. having a compo-winning demo that isn't spread sucks badly. So, get your release version finished BM.
I can understand delaying release a little to fix some nasty bugs etc., but there should be some kind of cap on the time taken.. having a compo-winning demo that isn't spread sucks badly. So, get your release version finished BM.
Winning a compo without a RELEASE sucks big time.
we shold set an "ultimate ultimatum" for the release
so unfinished i don't really get why it was released....
ryg: i have a theory on that.. support the party..
waiting for final..
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please have patience until the week after new year.
Week's over.. how long were you guys planning to keep this from the public anyway?
The demo was released, it's time to stop pretending. And now I'll thumb it for what it is, for what you released.
It's terribly unfinished, the whole demo feels like some .3ds replayer. Also your attitude adds alot to this thumb.
Anyway, it's time to upload this demo to scene.org and add the download link here at pouet. No more excuses.
Until then, people can use this link.
mojs.tk/~aleen/Black_Maiden_-_Concrete.rar
a_lee_n: and do you think anyone cares about your opinion? :)
I do, he's right.
Sorry Black Maiden -I like you guys, but this is getting silly :(
Sorry Black Maiden -I like you guys, but this is getting silly :(
Music sucks. Can't understand how this won...didn't even like it on the bigscreen...hmmm...no sorry...
bleh... seen much better stuff from BM. And the attitude is not stupid, it's just GAY. Come on guys, put your shit together and finish this already.
I've just seen this (through the cracked version :), couldn't run it on my home PC before, and also don't understand how this won? Well,. ok nice reflections on the robots, physics, etc. I really don't like the music and I found it boring as hell. No thumbs down though, there is an effort put into it and perhaps a story behind..
stupid that there has to be a cracked version... black maiden should fix that on their own.
btw, I like the robots!
btw, I like the robots!
would've been a thumbup. if.
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black maiden should fix that on their own
I think that's the point -there was nothing to fix. The error is not an bug, just a clumsy date checker that prevented people from watching the demo.
Go ahead, set the date to 2005. It will work, like magic. Or fraud. Yeah, I'll stick to fraud :)
i never thought i'd make this kind of sentence but insert coins should have won. really.
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stupid that there has to be a cracked version...
No, it's great that there has to be a cracked version, it's these kind of pranks which make me like the demoscene so much :-)
Well not that is bad, but is not my taste, so a piggy.
this is not a winnerdemo and insert coins should absolutely have won, but this is not a complete disaster. promising soundtrack and some nice visuals. but needs a lot more polish
Final version, please.
taken from the TUM competition rules:
so where is your promised release?
btw, what sparcus said.
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With contributing to a competition, you automatically agree that we'll spread your entry. You should have a look on your file(s) once before you upload them to our ftp or burning them on CD-Rom. Are all the files/filenames the correct ones? Is there a proper file_id.diz included? Better check that out first.
so where is your promised release?
btw, what sparcus said.
v3nomsoup, just shut up and stop being an echo chamber.
Great demo!
Oh dear. It's a pitiful show of the demoscene spirit when a group take their winnings and don't give anything back to the scene. This should have been fixed and released BEFORE the compo, not a month or more later or by another group.
My other criticism is that the demo is really horrible! The "music" sounds like my first attempt on my Bontempi keyboard at the age of 3 and who the hell approved those visuals?! I don't know about the technical mumbo jumbo behind it but the result is uglier than Porky's mum without make up!!
The sad part is that I love Black Maiden's previous releases and they're a group I look out for with anticipation. They dropped the ball with this one.
And that concludes this epic-sized demo review.
My other criticism is that the demo is really horrible! The "music" sounds like my first attempt on my Bontempi keyboard at the age of 3 and who the hell approved those visuals?! I don't know about the technical mumbo jumbo behind it but the result is uglier than Porky's mum without make up!!
The sad part is that I love Black Maiden's previous releases and they're a group I look out for with anticipation. They dropped the ball with this one.
And that concludes this epic-sized demo review.
sorry, but exactly WHAT SHANE SAID..
(i never thought i would say that once..)
(i never thought i would say that once..)
oh, and i might add some "namevoting"!!
btw. gargaj, i don't want to flamewar with you, especially not on a prod page.
it's just my opinion, and i really appreciate black maidens work (see comments ago), and yours also.
if you have a problem with me we can discuss that at breakpoint, drinking a beer, ok?!
it's just my opinion, and i really appreciate black maidens work (see comments ago), and yours also.
if you have a problem with me we can discuss that at breakpoint, drinking a beer, ok?!
beer is fine, i just personally find the constant repetition of your opinion annoying. bm fucked up, so what, they'll prolly avoid it next time.
we got it, you're angry, there's no point in reiterating it every time someone adds a new comment that's similar to yours....
we got it, you're angry, there's no point in reiterating it every time someone adds a new comment that's similar to yours....
what gargaj said! ;))
i dont agree
kk, i got it too...
sorry for any annoying, i'll go and shut up now :-)
sorry for any annoying, i'll go and shut up now :-)
shouldn't have won
i don't understand how these boring 3d animations can be so popular? sorry, but i rather watch a nice sinus scroller!
it's been quite a while now. so, where is the final?
if you fail/don't care to do a final, you should at least release the version that actually was in the compo.
if you fail/don't care to do a final, you should at least release the version that actually was in the compo.
veeery unfinished... and 
for the attitude.
real thumbs reserved for a final (there *will* be a final... right?)
for the attitude.real thumbs reserved for a final (there *will* be a final... right?)
Was promising, too bad there is no final in sight (or is there?)
thumb down for not releasing the compo version & not doing a final.
yeah, sorry, pretty boring.. music didn't match the visuals at all. need more than just 3d models and typography, folks.
ugly............
fuckings for the attitude
fucking dead links :((((( even thoose i see in comments are dead, it's dead... DEAD !!
nice demo, but sadly unfinished
still no final version...
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