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PAiN #57 (10/05) by Pain Staff [web]
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release date : october 2005
release party : XXX/Haujobb Wedding 2005
compo : none
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popularity : 70%
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YAY! I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR A LONG WHILE!

(sorry all caps is needed for this awesomeness)
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 20:42:52 by ghostless ghostless
Finally it's here. :D
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 20:46:02 by StingRay StingRay
if you're among the first ones that downloaded this issue, and you think the menu texts are somehow wrong (the description of the keys in the lower left corner), go ahead and redownload to get a properly fixed version.
added on the 2005-10-14 20:58:19 by unlock unlock
\o/ [and yes dipswitch, i _am_ a 3d artist :P]
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 21:00:33 by post malone post malone
nice
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 21:11:53 by bruce bruce
lots of interesting articles
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 21:13:04 by 301 301
Good stuff, as always. And now my eyes hurt from reading through the whole damn thing in windowed mode on a 1600x1200 desktop. Oh, the PAIN!
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 21:15:38 by break break
This one caught back on the old diskmag feeling.
added on the 2005-10-14 21:40:55 by _-_-__ _-_-__
Great issue, really interesting content.
And my most sincere congratulations to Tobi :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 21:48:49 by ithaqua ithaqua
Great issue. Great articles! Almost too much to read on one go:-)

Great job Andry, Filipe, Dip, Andrew, Preacher, Seven, Ghandy and all the rest!

Also big hugs and congrats to Eva & Tobi!
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 22:06:25 by uncle-x uncle-x
A big HUG(i) to this issue of Pain ;-)
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 22:23:57 by magic magic
excellent issue. crap article by wade. good response by truck.
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 22:34:49 by parcelshit parcelshit
To be honest, I didn't even have time to read this yet, except for the charts... But I know I'll enjoy this tomorrow :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 22:52:44 by teel teel
fuck zeroic and wades articles, they suck. everything else rules, bigtime
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 22:57:45 by uns3en_ uns3en_
this xxx-tra-issue rules.
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 23:00:08 by scicco scicco
The background is a bit annoying this time, but lots of interesting articles, and that's what counts :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 23:10:19 by zoom zoom
nice work :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 23:13:55 by las las
DWORD.
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 23:19:36 by apricot apricot
Quote:
This one caught back on the old diskmag feeling.


Definately! One of the best mags I've read in years!
rulez added on the 2005-10-14 23:38:28 by sparcus sparcus
really ownz!!!!!!!!
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 00:28:28 by zeebr zeebr
ooohhh, i feel a marvelous pain :)
congrats to xxx and eva \o/
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 00:41:28 by rmeht rmeht
Heh....loving loving PAiN!!!
YEA!!!
added on the 2005-10-15 00:49:50 by mitchell mitchell
.
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 00:49:51 by mrdoob mrdoob
du pain du vin du boursin
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 01:03:39 by keops keops
btw, i get an error when i have music+sfx turned on:
exception: `-error loading sfx(article)! (samples have to be 8bit mono wav)'

unlock, notify pdoom :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 01:33:31 by p01 p01
great once again :o~
love the design heh
sweet articles too
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 02:00:43 by Kravtsov Kravtsov
wtf is buzzies arcticle a party report or a boozing report?
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 02:19:20 by trigger trigger
Very nice.
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 02:23:48 by irvin irvin
is the green tan on the girl supposed to be a "too much crt exposure" tan? :)
added on the 2005-10-15 02:24:00 by rmeht rmeht
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 02:24:48 by 4kum4 4kum4
Trigger: it depends whether it's Buzzie or his evil twin Boozie :)
added on the 2005-10-15 02:26:00 by keops keops
Good mag as always but dont like the gfx style.
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 02:52:40 by Shanethewolf Shanethewolf
Combined charts, that's great idea!!! I'll try to vote next time.
I liked the pixeled background, fits well..
Several nice articles, gotta read a lot home..
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 02:56:53 by Optimus Optimus
Oh and I kind of agree with Pete and Unseen. Wade's article was really depressing and arrogant (not in a scene way either) and pissed me off but then some things make me think the guy makes a good point......

http://slengpung.com/pics/Assembly%202005/13201.jpg
another ace pain!
i love you guys :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 03:46:09 by kusma kusma
especially wade´s article was imo kinda interesting. its a fact that many people sit in front of their pcs like zombies & for hours & for years and that many people have/had serious problems because of it and everything that comes with it..but of course its not everyones lifetimegoal to become a topmodel or to date as many "chicks" as possible so maybe thats the wrong point..
well "think about it" or "give a shit" - your choice. :)

and yep - gfx style is not overwhelming but good.
added on the 2005-10-15 03:46:56 by 4kum4 4kum4
great article and a lot of interesting item.
PAiN is nice!!!
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 03:56:25 by got got
Wedding issue ha? sweet :) Congratulations to XXX and Eva.

I read most of the chapters and I can say that they were enjoyable. I'm specially interested in charts like most of the sceners. Seeing both my production and my party in the charts was a good feeling. Thanx for the votes.

I'm still searching for the hidden part :p
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 04:24:26 by Skate Skate
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 08:54:15 by blz blz
very good issue. i actually found wade's "you guys are ugly and i got new pants and jacket"-article quite fun to read. the interviews were good with interesting interview victims, and i especially liked aliens articles since i'm a sucker for all stories from the days when i had hardly started playing q-bert
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 09:23:00 by hollowman hollowman
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 10:49:03 by bzz bzz
Quote:
Oh and I kind of agree with Pete and Unseen. Wade's article was really depressing and arrogant (not in a scene way either) and pissed me off but then some things make me think the guy makes a good point......

its pretty cool that you are with us shane*cough*i mean wade. have you really gotten away from your computer? you are sitting next to computer, right?
added on the 2005-10-15 11:28:08 by uns3en_ uns3en_
Sweetest issue ever :) Congrats Tobi and Eva!
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 11:28:13 by dixan dixan
about wade's article: it was first decided to leave it out because of it being pretty pointless. then, truck came up with a splendid answer to it, so we decided to publish both. a good decision i think.
added on the 2005-10-15 12:15:05 by unlock unlock
Nice one. Thumbs up!
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 12:52:05 by RRR RRR
i agree
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 13:46:05 by anesthetic anesthetic
the only worthwhile pc diskmag left, and it's a good read too.
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 14:00:25 by smash smash
Surprisingly good, interesting reading.
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 14:15:44 by Zplex Zplex
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 14:17:52 by violator violator
Quote:
its pretty cool that you are with us shane*cough*i mean wade. have you really gotten away from your computer? you are sitting next to computer, right?


Why do I get blamed for everything? A virus is spread, that's Shane's doing. A new troll appears, it must be Shane. Lamers keep releasing fake prods, that's Shane too. Wade writes an article to offend sceners, that must be Shane also...oh but Shane didn't do any of the gfx people liked just the articles and stuff no one likes. I was even accused of being EP when he first appeared!

I'm siding with Truck on the big picture anyway. Yeah those Boozembly dancers are scary but Wade's article took two extremes and was like saying you gotta be a loser to be a scener and being a non scener will make you a winner. Thats bull cos you can find balance. Only the obsessed nerds (like wade himself admitted he was) who get to that state anyway.
Yay! Very nice issue with nice pixel gfx. Is Tomic the only one still doing pixel gfx?
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 14:33:44 by elend elend
cool reading
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 14:38:56 by Buckethead Buckethead
Shane, everything IS your fault :) Just get used it..

Wade`s article does have vaild points, but at the sametime if one can find the right balance it`s possible to have a thriving life on both fronts.

Anyhoo, my life isn`t thriving on either front.. so please send donations too.... ..
added on the 2005-10-15 15:08:11 by darkus darkus
"just get used to it.. " ..

Shane, maybe you should rename to:

ShaneTheScapeGoat :)
added on the 2005-10-15 15:10:24 by darkus darkus
Wade's article is pitiful. As if being fashionable was some kind of a merit or you couldn't be successful with girls (/boys) while being a scener. If he needs to have new clothes to attract anyone, that tells more about his shortcomings than sceners.

And oh yeah, this mag rules. I'd give it triple thumbs up if I wasn't in the editor team ;)
added on the 2005-10-15 15:24:18 by Preacher Preacher
<3
rulez added on the 2005-10-15 22:40:19 by red red
hey folx!
what do you think about our ( ps and me=mitchell)
interview with Curly Brace/Kewlers ?
added on the 2005-10-16 00:33:17 by mitchell mitchell
mitchell: i think it sucks ;)
added on the 2005-10-16 01:46:31 by psenough psenough
good issue, reading trucks stuff is fun :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-16 01:51:23 by cp_ cp_
nice of course
rulez added on the 2005-10-16 01:51:32 by [self-ban] [self-ban]
even if wade's article was sarcasm or trolling, i do not care. since he's always been a lamer and he can never experience what we have experienced and he does not understand what the demoscene is about. at - fuckin' - all.

wade == ep.
added on the 2005-10-16 03:38:07 by uncle-x uncle-x
guys, the mag doesn't only consist of one article - what about the rest of the contents? =)
added on the 2005-10-16 03:58:56 by dipswitch dipswitch
dips: they all suck :)
added on the 2005-10-16 04:33:41 by psenough psenough
Haven't read it all so far, but what I read was good.
rulez added on the 2005-10-16 10:27:57 by chock chock
uhh i should never write pouet comments when totally drunk :-/
added on the 2005-10-16 11:21:59 by uncle-x uncle-x
Uncle-x: try posting with a brain next time too!
added on the 2005-10-16 12:03:33 by darkus darkus
green
rulez added on the 2005-10-16 12:41:46 by mermaid mermaid
rulez added on the 2005-10-16 13:09:35 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
hm.. nice mag but why i get this sound error? I have to switch off all sound to get rid if the error message maali already mentioned and to gain access to pain.

But nevertheless ;-) congrats to the married couple !
added on the 2005-10-16 13:19:57 by titus^rab titus^rab
These sound issues are odd, since we're using bass.dll (BASS!) - on the other hand, it's a 'new one' that 'supports 4 channel mods' - and I wasn't aware that Ian had taken that OUT, as it always worked before (altho not neccesarily correct for soundtracker tunes) (look truck goes on and on about proper playback of mod files, what an utter shock) - so anyway, you MIGHT try replacing bass.dll with another one, tho I dunno if that will help. It's a suggestion. Again, I screwed up and completely forgot that I can't even see this yet cuz I have no Windows (: Will be testing that later on gentoo and see if it workages (:
sucks awfully bad. i mean ok well it has like excellent articles, a cool atmosphere and good editing and actually really keeps the diskmag thing make sense, but, well

WTF! NO 3D OUTTRO?!?!?!?!
sucks added on the 2005-10-16 13:50:37 by skrebbel skrebbel
YES I MISSED THE 3d part also when exiting the mag!! :( Sucks hard!
added on the 2005-10-16 14:08:56 by magic magic
triztan, the one who was supposed to the 3d outro, got sick during last week with serious health troubles, so we had to skip it.
titus, maali: mail me, so we can fix the things. we ain't have this problem here, so we're not aware of things. just complaining here doesn't help ;-)
added on the 2005-10-16 15:03:07 by unlock unlock
great work.
rulez added on the 2005-10-16 15:30:18 by venire venire
XXX and eva, please split up, and marry again, then we'll have another pain with that quality! :D
i dont tell other pain have a bad quality huh, i love them all!
Good work guys!
rulez added on the 2005-10-16 17:11:35 by iks iks
good one
rulez added on the 2005-10-16 18:33:57 by reality3D reality3D
Just cool.
rulez added on the 2005-10-16 19:37:20 by BoyC BoyC
some nice articles but some very very dull interviews... :(
added on the 2005-10-16 21:01:35 by Gargaj Gargaj
not to mention dipswitch's extremely rude comments on the charts...
added on the 2005-10-16 21:38:43 by Gargaj Gargaj
i hereby officially apologise for the rather unnessecary comments towards maali and gizmo in the 3d charts. i wasn't aware of maali's actual involvement in certain projects, and regarding gizmo i just wanted to say smth smart, sorry =)
i think i will leave the chart commenting alone in the future and concentrate on what i think i'm good at, espeically interviews.
added on the 2005-10-16 23:26:27 by dipswitch dipswitch
excellent issue! I enjoyed wade's article because it was so pointless, I think some people cannot balance their life and scene activities and on dan's part he obviously cannot so he had to leave the scene i guess. You just need a healthy balance to life!
rulez added on the 2005-10-16 23:44:16 by dv$ dv$
incredible issue.. but they've had almost a year to make it. :) shop around, there is no better diskmag around these days.. maybe c64 mags like attitude and domination come close. dipswitch has no need to apologize for his chart opinions.. if he wrote a whole "[so and so] sucks" article, then maybe a rebuttal would be called for. and so it had no 3d intro or outro.. so what? read the mag and watch a freakin' demo afterwards.

congrats to xxx, like everyone else said. this should encourage more sceners to get married so we can have more issues of pain released. :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-17 02:46:40 by phoenix phoenix
I liked:
+Design, Tomic's awesome gfx an all tracks.
+The dedication to Eva + XXX
+Preacher's demospotting and "Making of Fiat Homo"
+Whole cross questioning section
+Articles from Navis, Zeroic, Ghandy, BoyC, SGT...
+The partyreports have been very valuable for me because I didn't visit a big party since 1988 ;)
Thanks Buzzie, Vigo, SGT, Dipswitch, ps...
+"My first demoparty" was a great idea.
I'll contact some old fart friends of mine from Danish Gold, The Light Circle, Triad, Fairlight... and write a report about:
Danish Gold party 1987 Odense the best party ever I visited myself for next PAiN.
+The HURRAY flying hearts part. ;) The tune sounds as it was made on a Bontempi homeorgan back in the 80s, great! :)
I loved:
+The fun I had while reading Wades article included in the issue which is a gesture of friendship to Eva + XXX, great sense of humor.

Thanks to the PAiN team for another great issue rich in content and all the best to Eva+XXX.
rulez added on the 2005-10-17 08:41:27 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
i thought the charts commentary was funny to read, even with the inaccurancies...
added on the 2005-10-17 09:00:39 by melw melw
not hugi
rulez added on the 2005-10-17 10:24:16 by quisten quisten
rulez added on the 2005-10-17 14:39:16 by chavez chavez
dipswitch: never mind..after all you had a point concerning my activities during the past few month...

btw. great issue!
rulez added on the 2005-10-17 14:43:22 by giZMo^fr giZMo^fr
w00t
rulez added on the 2005-10-17 19:18:34 by franky-- franky--
yes.
rulez added on the 2005-10-17 19:40:33 by Paralax Paralax
i like it very much! i feel less old now!
rulez added on the 2005-10-17 19:43:37 by rac rac
Plenty of nice content here. Enjoyed the interviews and making-ofs.
rulez added on the 2005-10-17 19:45:21 by tomaes tomaes
wow! what a huge _quality_ mag!
PAIN DISKMAG DOMINATION!
rulez added on the 2005-10-17 20:03:31 by v3nom v3nom
pretty nice :) - dipswitch you've misplaced scene A with scene B in your Abstract report :P. Actually scene A is scene B and vice versa :P. he he
rulez added on the 2005-10-17 20:14:18 by bonzaj bonzaj
haha, damn... i thought a stands for alko =)
added on the 2005-10-17 21:33:25 by dipswitch dipswitch
b for booze man!!!! ;)
added on the 2005-10-17 22:01:49 by psenough psenough
PS: pretty close :) - "b" for "brudni" and it means dirty :)
added on the 2005-10-18 00:00:21 by bonzaj bonzaj
a co w tym czasie "a"? "akuratnie" lub cos takiego? =)


zlo, meeeeeeen!
added on the 2005-10-18 01:34:07 by dipswitch dipswitch
just alone the lack of a software 3d extro deserves a thumb up :D
rulez added on the 2005-10-18 09:02:15 by xeNusion xeNusion
woot
rulez added on the 2005-10-18 20:45:59 by Jcl Jcl
I can't recall the last time I enjoyed a diskmag. Oh wait, it's been just 5 mins. ago!
rulez added on the 2005-10-18 23:14:46 by zomb zomb
nice :D
added on the 2005-10-18 23:29:37 by cxczevik cxczevik
Sooo good !
rulez added on the 2005-10-19 12:31:54 by willbe willbe
Lov it :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-19 14:35:15 by Duckers Duckers
you bastard ! You stole my night... :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-19 14:48:27 by AbcuG! AbcuG!
Worth the long wait.
rulez added on the 2005-10-19 18:29:20 by madcrow madcrow
Time to give it a piggy myself. Selfvoting rocks! ;-))

But seriously:This issue which has been put together in an extreme rush is the best issue of PAiN that I've been reading so far.
rulez added on the 2005-10-19 21:17:31 by ghandy ghandy
yes
rulez added on the 2005-10-20 08:24:47 by spritus spritus
here you can download a final version of "shamisen" - http://atoy.bwteam.org/pub/jeffie_shamisen.mo3
added on the 2005-10-20 10:52:59 by Jeffie Jeffie
<3
rulez added on the 2005-10-20 10:55:06 by Jeffie Jeffie
nice articles, despite the recycled nature of some of them. spent some quality time going through the interviews.
rulez added on the 2005-10-20 11:31:52 by dalezr dalezr
...
sucks added on the 2005-10-20 15:49:03 by FUN-thomas FUN-thomas
good
rulez added on the 2005-10-20 16:52:20 by RA RA
nice
rulez added on the 2005-10-20 17:03:47 by Zweckform Zweckform
just needa add that this greengirlthingalabob is due to my red-green-blindness, get used to it =)

(compensation thumb for ultralame idiot)
rulez added on the 2005-10-20 18:09:52 by tomic tomic
Green chicks rocks!
rulez added on the 2005-10-20 19:06:21 by El Topo El Topo
good
rulez added on the 2005-10-20 22:08:06 by NuKem NuKem
Maybe it's just me, but I found it somewhat ironic how Mr. Wade described leaving the scene as the only way to have a social life and meet girls, especially when considering this issue was released to celebrate the marriage of two sceners. Hmm...
rulez added on the 2005-10-22 03:49:03 by sea_monkey sea_monkey
Go PAiN <3!!
rulez added on the 2005-10-22 12:40:49 by Delilah Delilah
bring summer back! (gfx-theme recycled in autumn because of unreleased summer issue?! :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-23 12:26:03 by soolta soolta
soolta: it's a gloomish theme :)
added on the 2005-10-23 14:15:29 by rmeht rmeht
The music is very good.
rulez added on the 2005-10-25 18:08:29 by sliders sliders
jup
rulez added on the 2005-10-26 23:42:24 by des des
i want more pain :(
rulez added on the 2005-10-28 15:31:10 by randomi randomi
Amazing gfx! Nice music. Articles too good & interesting!

PS: where out-zine intro-part? ;(
rulez added on the 2005-11-01 09:04:01 by bitl bitl
Music that makes my ears bleed and uninspiring GFX. Ok.. so it's a tribute edition so you get a piggy for that.

PAINful!
added on the 2005-11-04 21:52:02 by Knacker Knacker
thumb up for this one
rulez added on the 2005-11-13 13:34:19 by Midfit Midfit
A piggy... Not so good but not that bad.
added on the 2005-11-13 13:41:03 by _10b0 _10b0
hey midfit, nice to see ya back finally!
added on the 2005-11-13 14:46:20 by dipswitch dipswitch
dip: nice to see you - even if it's only virtual ;)
added on the 2005-11-18 16:50:05 by Midfit Midfit
nice!
rulez added on the 2006-06-18 00:54:50 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
question: how to find the hidden music ?

the creditz speak of a 3d outtro
when I exit the mag there isnt any ??
added on the 2006-07-22 09:08:48 by magic magic
good read, nice graphics
rulez added on the 2008-11-08 17:21:29 by stijn stijn
ah, this was so great to be part of... *floats away in memories*
added on the 2011-11-11 03:14:24 by dipswitch dipswitch

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