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Still Coding - TACF's first release in a very long time.

Four of us (Sine, Lucifer, Detail, Cino) met again after decades and
decided to make one more Atari demo, together with LYRA (Claude) as our
fifth element. Effects, disk-loaded parts, a jukebox with the old tunes
and the greetings we never got to send.

Runs on a real PAL 800XL/XE with 64 KB and BASIC off, or right in your
browser: tacf.party

Thanks to everyone who kept the scene alive. Old friends. New pixels.

Most of the code and the theme were written with LYRA (Claude, an AI) as our fifth element; the ideas, photos, greetings and direction are ours.

The name of this slop is a fuckin' joke.

I ask myself if it’s time to give Claude a pouet/demozoo-account, so that it can be credited properly. ;o)

fuck off

I’m trying to avoid this shit but this one is a step too far. “Thanks to everyone who kept the scene alive” - man, if you meant that on any level, you should have considered showing your “thanks” in a way that doesn’t actively ferment the further and ongoing destruction of the demoscene as the rest of us know it.

I hope your midlife crisis (and I’m looking specifically at YOU here, “Lucifer”) was worth it.

You are, in fact, not still coding. Come back when you are.

Oh, the greetings are yours, are they? Wow.

Fuck all the way off with your fucking AI shit

For me, Utopia’s comment above also being written by Claude just puts a cherry on top of the cake of all of that.

At this point the only explanation left as to why release something like this is a humiliation kink.

Really pitiful. If you wanted to make a life sign: a simple self-coded scrolly would have been enough and people would smile and be happy that you guys are still around. Instead, you basically hire someone else (a robot owned by a big corporation) to "code" some stuff for you. Nothing could be further from old scene spirit than that. Remember how it was back in the old days: only the lamest groups would actually buy an intro from someone else (and yes, there were cases like this on c64 and Amiga). This is in no way different.

...and you just lost me with the lyra (claude) part.

if you still got it, we would've known if it was hand-written code on top of whose credited for the theme; but no, you just talked to a damn chatbot and let it do the dirty work for you lol.

you are literally, NOT coding.

Slöp

No

Is there a video or something?

It’s ironic that, while calling yourselves "coding freaks" and titling the demo "Still Coding," you end up handing off the entire programming workload to Claude.

A bit disappointing, isn’t it?

The title made me hoping for some counter-statement to vibe coding, like we still proudly code by hand in the current year (I hate this term, by hand btw). Yet I got the opposite.

Also, what is Lyra, a new model? Maybe I don't want to know..

I googled it, it's actually a framework that also generates the prompts for you. I can't stop laughing!

wait I get to eat good tonight?

trolololol

lel this gotta be ragebait

our friend mrdoob aka untraceable already unsuccessfully tried that

This is a joke, right?

sadly not a very funny one :(

it's called a SINE SCROLLER, say it with respect

glöp

Wow, so much hate here.
I imagine these guys just wanted to have a good time together.

…and you being a known & professed AI stooge is just a coincidence…

What kb_ said.

as if

Against hate. Be kind.

At least AI does not drink my beer. Just let the guys have some fun.

Reading the comments feels like being back in the 90s full of teen sceners (it is also telling that the vast majority do not belong to Atari scene people...)

Look, they could have pretended of coding it by themselves. Instead they were pretty open about what AI did for them, met together after many years, had fun, got an idea to send a greeting to the world, end of story.

Same as you couldn't change what groups like BITS produced, you can't change if people decide to use AI for their stuff. They liked it, released it, you can like it or ignore it. No need to for personal attacks.

OK. Now fuck off.

And of course we can also express our dislike, as people are doing here and in other threads. Telling that this shit is not welcome is the only way to make people not make this shit.

I would imagine a self-coded nostalgic crappy scroller from a bunch of old dudes would get a different reception.

no, but they can get the fuck off at some point and if they keep doing it. I dunno who's best between troller who keep polluting the space with their crap or the semi-old people with less belly who keep reacting aggressively.

This is not even submitted to a party, go fuck off somewhere else to one of your atari forums if you're unhappy, I heard AI is appreciated there.

Fuck no. If you'd given it a different title then I'd probably ignore the slop and move on, but.. come on.. are you really that disrespectful?

Is this really the level of discourse the AI advocates are reduced to now? "don't be mean, they probably had fun making this 🥺" - oh, well then, that's fair enough. Anything that someone enjoyed doing can't possibly be bad...

I could have fun riding a motorbike down the course of the Berlin Marathon, but that doesn't mean I should upload it to Strava and go "LOOK GUYZ, I CAN STILL RUN A MARATHON IN UNDER 3 HOURS". You're not returning to the scene, you're cosplaying as demosceners while doing the exact opposite of what your 30-year-younger selves thought was cool.

gasman president.

@MIKRO: I wouldn't have gone out of my way to express my feelings on this prod, had these guys not posted it here - and not only that, but (inadvertently or trolling, idk) given it probably the most provocative title imaginable.

Besides, I've certainly seen you express some strong and arguably elitist views yourself when it is a matter that is of concern to you. Remember when you went at a firsty releaser, publicly and in a sustained way, when you felt that the length of their first party release (or more accurately, the length of time the orgs chose to show it) negatively impacted subsequent audience engagement for your own release? I guess we all have our raw nerves, huh!