Rhino/BG information 320 glöps

- general:
- level: user
- personal:
- first name: Alejandro
- last name: del Campo
- cdcs:
- cdc #1: Enigma by Phenomena
- cdc #2: Mental Hangover by Scoopex [web]
- cdc #3: Blood Sugar Rises by AttentionWhore
- 32k Amiga OCS/ECS Chip&Dots by Oxygene [web]
- Btw, the download link is broken?
- isokadded on the 2025-05-26 14:41:58
- 32k Amiga OCS/ECS Chip&Dots by Oxygene [web]
- Is world records fever back?
- rulezadded on the 2025-05-26 09:23:17
- demo Amiga AGA Skywards by Darkage [web]
- @ham One thing is the opinion of some individuals and another the rules of a competition, which should try to be fair for everyone. The fanaticism you are talking about feeds precisely on the injustice that comes from judging works without being able to distinguish whether AI was used.
- isokadded on the 2025-04-27 15:53:36
- demo Amiga AGA Skywards by Darkage [web]
- @ham Exactly. You are always free to release a prod elsewhere or outside compos if you are not happy with their rules. But to equate something as simple and harmless as declaring the tools used with the inquisition seems to me to be a bit of a stretch. xD
- isokadded on the 2025-04-27 14:56:38
- demo Amiga AGA Skywards by Darkage [web]
- @bifat Rules are not made with the expectation that everyone will always abide by them. Instead, an added purpose of rules is to shift the responsibility for what might happen if they are broken to the cheater. Probably any rule can be circumvented with more or less difficulty. Whoever chooses to do that will know what he stands to lose or gain.
- isokadded on the 2025-04-27 14:22:18
- demo Amiga AGA Skywards by Darkage [web]
- I think the context is being lost. Professionally, the use of AI will be determined by market criteria, such as public/customer acceptance or cost reduction, but the demoscene has its own criteria, such as prestige.
A retro platform graphician in demoscene gains prestige as he demonstrates his skills in hand-drawing and pixel mastery. The use of AI simply does not help to build prestige as an artist here.
That doesn't mean that AI should be banned, punished with public scorn or that it turns everything it touches into rubbish. Everyone is free to use whatever tools they see fit, and one can only demand honesty in stating how the work was done in order to get fair ratings in competitions.
I can think of many plausible reasons why someone would want to use AI in their demo, for example, a lone coder who can't find an artist who can develop a specific idea. Or an artist involved in a prod that requires so much graphics that it would not be feasible without AI, to give just 2 examples.
I don't know the reasons why Facet and Critikill have decided to use AI massively in this prod, and surely this is not the prod with which they gain more prestige as demoscene artists, but I think they don't need it either because they have already more than proved their skills.
In my opinion, the most objectionable thing here would be if it is true that there has been an intention to hide the use of AI by breaking the rules of the contest. But that would be a question of dishonesty, not about AI usage.
On the other hand, I understand that some people are very burned by the AI issue because there are a lot of feelings involved, with people losing their jobs, etc... but I think we should abstract from that here and try to maintain respect and manners. - isokadded on the 2025-04-23 23:14:59
- demo Amiga OCS/ECS Enchanted Glitch by Cosmic Orbs [web]
- This technical marvel deserved a better position in my opinion. One of my favourites of the compo.
- rulezadded on the 2025-04-23 11:25:03
- demo Amiga AGA Lupus Reditus by Tristar & Red Sector Inc. [web] & Mystic [web]
- Very good design, art direction and great musical backing creating an unique atmosphere. Congratulations on the award, guys!
- rulezadded on the 2025-04-21 22:35:28
- demo Amiga AGA Skywards by Darkage [web]
- Thumbs down if you are against the use of AI in prods is ok. But as far as I know this prod hasn't broken any contest rules and I think there's no need for the viciousness of some comments either.
Otherwise I find it a cheerful and friendly demo. A pity. - rulezadded on the 2025-04-21 20:22:21
- demo Amiga OCS/ECS 3D Demo 3: The Last Drop by Lemon.
- @Hannibal
I see. Although both have the same columns and use a separate color for the border, yours changes the border on each chunky line, which can be interpreted as more than just 57 columns and a plain border. Height could also be used as a tie-breaker, but I take your point that it would still be interpretable.
Mmm, then you might be interested to discover the second secret part of ‘Joker Snacks On Blueberries’ :D Just press left + joy button + right mouse button at the start in an ocs/ecs machine :)
https://youtu.be/MoKncD3hwbg
I think 59 columns and more hight will no longer give room for interpretation and leave you with little excuse to release something that kicks the Joker's ass at Posadas this year (if the Joker doesn't have more secret parts in store) xD
The duel with Blueberry could be memorable :D
Regards and thank you for keeping the scene spirit alive! - isokadded on the 2025-04-21 16:14:51
account created on the 2010-11-10 19:57:09