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Rhino/BG information 358 glöps

• general:
• level: user
• personal:
• first name: Alejandro
• last name: del Campo
• cdcs:
• cdc #1: Enigma by Phenomena
• cdc #2: Mental Hangover by Scoopex [web]
• cdc #3: Blood Sugar Rises by AttentionWhore

• demo Atari STe Extended Knobhead by Dead Hackers Society [web]
• hehe Amazing ! and thanks for the wink !
• rulezadded on the 2025-08-03 00:32:44
• intro Amiga OCS/ECS Still Snacking by Batman Group & Capsule
• Quote:

  The only thing you’ve got is your virginity. For a professional troll, your holy mother should’ve used that condom that drunken night so she wouldn’t have to put up with such an arrogant asshole now.
  
  By the way, thanks for giving me a personalized stalk. Now I have my own stalker too, only the dumbass doesn’t know who he’s messing with. You’re just showing more of your insecurity and need for approval. We’re the ones laughing at you, idiot ;)

  
  Hahaha Good boy!, I just say 'jump' and you do it ;)
  I like that you are so obedient, but those manners... where are the man who only sought Beauty? :/
  Well, anyway, now I go to the beach to enjoy a magnificent summer, so I don't have any more time to educate you.
  Don't behave too badly in my absence ;)
• isokadded on the 2025-07-30 19:10:48
• intro Amiga OCS/ECS Still Snacking by Batman Group & Capsule
• Guys, are you trying to reason with my personal troll? xD
  He only creates new accounts to give thumbs down here and on Batman Rises and thumbs up to the rest of the demos in the top 10, but I have to say I'm proud of him; he's demonstrating a level of Florentine artistic refinement only worthy of Renaissance men. After all this time, I'm excited to have a personal troll like this. On the other hand, I have to scold him for being so lazy in his BR reviews: "no soul," "boring," "overrated"... they don't seem like the elaborate critiques of a consummate mannerist. Nothing I can't forgive him for as long as he's obedient and keeps commenting here to entertain us :)
• isokadded on the 2025-07-30 16:08:34
• intro Amiga OCS/ECS Still Snacking by Batman Group & Capsule
• Hey Blueberry!
  
  First of all, I want you to know that I have nothing personal against you, on the contrary, I decided to participate in this challenge because I consider you one of the best Amiga coders. The jocular tone of the prods is due to the Joker theme and perhaps to add an extra point of motivation. I hope you didn't find it offensive.
  
  
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  On that note, I realize I didn't quite express myself clearly in the scroller (and readme). When I wrote "with music", what I had in mind was "being able to tolerate unpredictable DMA activity on all four audio channels", since I foresaw this being an issue when pressing the cycle exact approach further.
  
  You still hold that record, since I only matched it. But you did not break it here.

  
  I agree. There are many specific records we can make and here I don't beat the record for largest 4x4 RGB rotozoom + 4 DMA music channels + scrolltext.
  
  It also occurs to me that you might have the record for the largest 4x4 RGB rotozoom in 100% real time (since I precalculate the offsets on all of them), and even the widest 4x4 RGB rotozoom in real time if Hannibal's 80-column one wasn't (which I don't know). For my part, I claim 6 records in the readme :)
  
  In my opinion, the important ones are 2: the one with the most columns and the one with the most blocks and I will accept to be beaten in any of them if those marks are improved regardless of whether it is done with or without music, or the gfx are AI and the intro is more or less ugly.
  
  
  Quote:

  In conclusion, I feel the urge to repeat what I said to Photon nine years ago:
  

  Quote:

  Nice proof of concept. Makes me want to beat it some day. ;)

  
  The game is definitely not over.

  
  Great, that's the spirit of the demoscene! Good luck!
• isokadded on the 2025-07-29 12:49:47
• demopack diskmag Amiga OCS/ECS Speed issue #68 by Nah-Kolor [web]
• Thank you! and apologies for taking up so much of the disk :)
• rulezadded on the 2025-07-29 12:03:05
• demo Atari ST The Joker is a Knobhead by Django the Bastard
• Hehe, nice graphic!
  I'm not familiar with Atari's limits, but I'd say it's a nice achievement on the platform. Congratulations!
  About the question... well, I'm just the one with the technical stuff, hehe.
• rulezadded on the 2025-07-27 17:31:00
• intro Amiga OCS/ECS Still Snacking by Batman Group & Capsule
• Quote:

  @rloaderro he disables *all* audio for the main record of 85 columns, which would be a step too far for me.

  
  I'm curious what "one step too far for me" means. Because in my implementation that part has no music means that the Amiga OCS hardware can't do 4x4 chunky rgb at 85 columns?
  If someone can do it at 85 columns and 4 dma music channels he just has to demonstrate it in a demo. And in that case he will only have equalled the column record, regardless of adding 4 channels dma music, copper bars on the sides or a glenz vector on top. The 85 columns are only beaten by another one with 86 or more columns. Honestly, I never thought I would have to be forced to explain the obvious here.
  
  But It's funny how all the issues that I didn't give any importance to during development (AI, music, etc...), seem to be the only concerns of many people here and, with a few honourable exceptions, nobody seems to care about the technique behind reaching 4352 blocks or 85 columns. It would seem that if you disconnect the 4 sound dma channels, an 85 columns rotozoom automatically appears :)
  
  In my opinion, this is the end of the road in this challenge , hence the final message ‘game over’, so I wanted to close this quickly here and return to Vespertino on Amstrad CPC. If anyone thinks differently I look forward to seeing it in a demo and, in that case, my response would have to wait until Vespertino is finished.
• isokadded on the 2025-07-27 16:08:54
• intro Amiga OCS/ECS Still Snacking by Batman Group & Capsule
• Quote:

  Congratz for another great record-breaker production, Rhino. Nice music even with the 2 channels limit, tito Estrayk, well done.
  
  Some of us are really enjoying this series of challenges. Thank you to all the participants for making it possible.

  
  
  Thanks!
  I like the technical challenges not only because of the competition between coders to see who can beat them first, but also because it is how we all get to know where the limits of the platforms are.
  If 9 years ago someone would have asked: how many chunky 4x4 RGB columns can the Amiga OCS hardware do? The answer would have been 50. Today we are going for 85...
• isokadded on the 2025-07-27 09:59:33
• intro Amiga OCS/ECS Still Snacking by Batman Group & Capsule
• Quote:

  Instead of using AI (which is not a bad option at all, even if I would have preferred some graphics by Mac/BG) I wonder if, in the next one, Rhino will not make up as The Joker and a selfie will be done to use it as a texture.

  
  Hehe good idea, I'll write it down for next time.
  
  Criticisms about the use of AI, artistic criteria, etc... are welcome, of course. But that was not what was important for us in this prod. In the readme we make it clear: "...the only important thing here is to be the first breaking records.". Context is always important because if you don't know it, you can evaluate a 64-byte intro as if it were a regular demo.
  
  Hannibal also explains the context in the comments of And One Up The Sleeve2: "I wanted to get this out there as soon as it was ready, as I was sure multiple people were inspired by Blueberry's work and trying to beat it - and Gigabates' post confirmed my suspicion."
  
  
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  By the way, kudos for taking Estrayk out of his comfort zone!

  
  I just asked Estrayk if he was able to make a good sounding music with only 2 channels, even if the mod size reaches 250kb or more, and he said yes, the rest is history... If his answer had been different, maybe I would have explored other alternatives, or not. :)
• isokadded on the 2025-07-27 09:57:28
• intro Amiga OCS/ECS Still Snacking by Batman Group & Capsule
• Quote:

  Theisintro sucks!
  The texture is made with AI, the music uses only two channels with no effects whatsoever. This intro seems more like an excuse to come here and brag about a 'record' like a spoiled teenager.
  Listen Rhino: we’ve already passed that age, you should evolve personally because you’re really ridiculous.
  
  Yes, Hannibal still in the lead for me. You're just a spoiled brat playing dirty.

  
  xD
• isokadded on the 2025-07-27 00:08:59