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Do u like filled vectors?

category: general [glöplog]
I do..they are one of my fav old skool "effect" here are a few jewels..(bling bling)

C64

My Oh My/Light
Last Traktor III/Horizon

Amiga

Phantasmagoria/Anarchy
New Demo/Silents

Pc
Crystal Dreams/Triton

Btw: for the new kid on tha block...filled vectors are now know as cel shading!

I love the old skool cuz i am an old fool...

-Bigpimpin
added on the 2004-02-07 21:47:09 by bigpimpin bigpimpin
these vectors make me hot.
added on the 2004-02-07 21:59:29 by psenough psenough
eeeeeeh... "filled vectors" have nothing to do with cel shading. Possibly flat shading.

I've always hated the term anyway, because it's really absurd.. filling a vector doesn't mean anything.. (vector graphics is understandable, but saying "vector" when you mean "polygonal object" is just stupid).

...but there are of course loads of nice examples of this effect - far too many for me to pick any favourites :)
added on the 2004-02-07 22:08:52 by gammawave gammawave
Red Storm/Triad gives you the right answer.
added on the 2004-02-07 22:23:29 by Fzool Fzool
Yeah, "filled vectors" != "cel shading"
I think your getting confused with your terminology a tad :)
Filled vectors are basically what it says on the tin.
wireframe > filled vectors > depth shaded filled vectors > tmapped vectors > depthshaded tmapped vectors etc etc insert phong gouraud env blah where ever.
Best every filled vectors demo?
Revenge of Babbnaasen by Red Sector Inc, more commonly known as Cebit'90 which blew everything else away at the time. Contains arguably Romeo Knights best tune and for me RSI's most memorable work.

For wireframe i personally LOVE Vectrex by Scoopex. Only an intro, but i just love the music and will teach you a bit of Scene history as well if you read the scroller :)
added on the 2004-02-07 22:42:05 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
how do you fill something infinitely thin that has no position?
added on the 2004-02-07 22:52:45 by 216 216
i've never seen any infinitely thin thingys on my monitor...
filled vectors are filled vectors, no matter how abstract it seems to some people - after all, calling some gfx effects made up from 2d polygons on the screen "3d vectors" is even more absurd imho :)

on the original question: since i've grown up on pc, the diamond and space-whatever-things in Eclipse by EMF is what makes my heart beating a little bit faster...
added on the 2004-02-07 23:40:47 by blala blala
how do you fill something infinitely thin that has no position?

If we are going to be really correct,vectors are not infinitely thin. Vectors are not lines. They have no width (not even an infinitely small one). Don't confuse vectors with their geometric interpretation in 2- or 3-dimensional euclidian space.

added on the 2004-02-08 02:53:29 by gammawave gammawave
Filth vectors... No thank you m'am!
added on the 2004-02-08 04:30:14 by havoc havoc
I like filled vector becuz it's an oldskool effect that still keeps getting better on the c64.

I guess the term vector gfx originated with the old vector screens. This was screens where you could control the direction (=vector) of the cathode ray. Instead of moving from the top left corner and downwards in horizontal lines like on tv or a normal screen, you could make it move in any direction and turn it on/off as you wanted, and thereby draw lines on the screen w/o using cpu power on drawing them into a bitmap first.

Vector screens were mostly used for industrial design and stuff like that I think, but also arcade games like Asteroids and Battle Zone used this kinda screen.

Because of these vector screens that could draw lines, I guess line gfx got known as vector gfx. And when someone figured out how to fill these line objects they dubbed it "filled vector gfx" or just filled vector for short.

Recently some ppl has started calling it "filled vectorS" but I guess that's just a mistake. Maybe some dude had a lisp when he talked about filled vector and then it started that way. :)
added on the 2004-02-08 05:54:15 by cruzer cruzer
cruzer: Interesting.

The best flat polygon 3ds on the C64 are in the demo
Altered States 50% by Taboo imho. Big enough size but still running in a descent speed, morphing, with nice colors, glenz. Has anyone seen faster on the C64 in this size? I'd like to see..

The first flat 3ds I have watched on a PC demo were in Cronologia by Cascade. Be carefull: The first I have personally seen, not the first that have been released. Which were the first on PC btw? Vector demo by Ultraforce? Something else..

I don't know about Amiga. I was not in Amiga demowatching from early times, I just watched some classics of the year 92-93 not so early (and still miss the very classics from the previous years). I like also Atarist vectors very much, because they can do preety smooth flat polys way too big and without having any blitter chip!!!

On the CPC, the only flat polygons ever were in Face Hugger's Ultimate Megademo released at 1992 and I have never ever seen flat polys on the CPC anymore (That's a shame!). Perhaps only in a preview of a precalculated animation in Overflow's previews (Very cool and smooth).
added on the 2004-02-08 11:40:14 by Optimus Optimus
Damn,. I wanted to say Cascada and not Cascade. Sorry :)
added on the 2004-02-08 11:40:59 by Optimus Optimus
I think the first vector demo i saw on the PC was precisaely Vectordemo / Ultraforce. At least, the first one I saw that contained nifty effects with them. Included vector balls too and some interactivity :-)
added on the 2004-02-08 12:35:45 by Jcl Jcl
Optimus: It's not a demo, but I still think the Freescape engine by Incentive Software is one the best pioneering vector work on the PC. It was used in several games (Driller, Castle Master, Darkside) and it offered a flatshaded 3d world with free player movement on an XT.
added on the 2004-02-08 13:08:25 by sparcus sparcus
I like vectors filled with cheese! mmmm..

you know.. watching a movie and have some cola and filled vectors.. yumm.
added on the 2004-02-08 22:35:02 by Pegasus Pegasus
do you like filled vectors?
we do!

(c) slayer/scoopex
(from mental hangover)
added on the 2004-02-08 23:46:14 by elkmoose elkmoose
@sparcus
said games were also available on speccy C64 Amiga. And was even an editor (i *think* was called World Construction Set, i may even still have a demo of it on an old coverdisk from Amiga Format)
And yeah were nice.
But, if were talking filled vector games, Starglider 2 is where it's at :)
added on the 2004-02-09 01:31:46 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
Too boring! We want stencil vectors!
added on the 2004-02-09 09:30:10 by break break
Mental hangover of course

I like those from seven sins too ->
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=4632
Another great Scoppex addition

Another demo with 3 parts, 'can't remember the name, last part is a huge Madonna screen and there's a cool main menu with filled vectors (I was stunned by this :)


BUT wireframe rulz0r so much =]
**REBELS VESC** (/megademo 2)
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=1649

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"what's our vector, Victor?"
added on the 2004-02-09 09:56:27 by uncle-x uncle-x
No..i love filled vectors. I always did!
added on the 2004-02-09 17:43:23 by NoahR NoahR
Reminds me of the tune "Vector" by Hexstatic... The video is a tribute to the old vector based arcade games.
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added on the 2004-02-10 21:46:03 by cruzer cruzer
StanZ, you're thinking of Crionics Megademo, probably - http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=3213 .

Vectors. There is something that appeals to me quite strongly about filled vectors, though I can't quite put my finger on what it is. They have this crisp, clean look about them, I suppose.
added on the 2004-02-13 01:03:05 by resonate resonate
The filled vectors in Kefrens Megademo8 were quite impressive. Fullscreen blitter filled vectors running full framerate in 3 bitplanes (well, I think it was 3).

Tai Pan/Complex also did an excellent highspeed vector demo, but I don't remember the name of the demo...
added on the 2004-02-14 10:47:28 by Corial Corial
Yep, Promax' vector demo in Kefrens Megademo called "Kill Victor" was teh rulex.

And Tai-Pan's one was called "Vector Preview". Still the best 3D objects in a demo ever, counting today's PC stuff.

Remember also "3D Intro" from Phalanx, which shows the previous unfilled generation of Tai-Pan's routine :)
added on the 2004-02-14 11:02:47 by break break

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