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I think the issue is not the keyboard but the chair + desk placement. Ideally one would type like a pianist presses keys on a piano. They adopted that stance precisely to prevent repetitive stress injuries.

it's for use with one hand but still damn cool.

Does it look "damn cool" or is it useful for fast working?

didn't try it. it just looks cool. also seems to be providing more combinations when sit upon than a regular one.

that question should be easy to answer, since it's designed for one hand use it simply CAN'T be useful for fast working.

The thing about piano keys versus typing keys is on the piano they are not small and squarish, but long and rectangular. This allows for more variation in how the fingers can press the keys, thus more freedom of movement for the wrists.

I like my keyboard clicky clicky

yes, indeed the issue here is wrist movements. that's why it also feels comfortable to code on a kinesis, nost just if you have gotten stress injuries (i haven't yet).. moving around your wrists suck bad if you do it all day long..

Mouse is much worse than keyboard. At least for me.

yeh, it's the mouse that does it for me to.. i even avoid using ballmouses coz optical ones seem to be of less weight/friction for the wrist ;)

i tend to use the old IBM-keyboards.
the label under this keyboard i'm writing on now says it was build 1985, my girlfriend was born in 86 :)

maybe in the future this vaporware will become reality:
www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/

apart from that newish chery keyboards suck, also notebook keayboards that have the "FN"-Key where LeftCtrl is supposed to be, since you always hit that FN and do stuff( like change modes or launc shit apps) and it breaks your codeflow. than you automaticaly try Crtl+Z to undo and do even more FN-stuff. i had actually an alienware notebook wich i gave back since the keyboard( FN-key) sucked so much.

<3 Keytronic <3

From what I've heard, the old IBM keyboards are the best keyboard anyone can ask for:
-Built like a fucking tank; can be smashed against a concrete wall repeatedly without taking much damage.
-Excellent "clicky clacky" type key action, not too hard, not too soft.
-Layout that has grown to become the standard and still is after over 20 years.

Of course fatigue still may be an issue, in which case I hear Dvorak keyboards are quite nice. Can't say for sure though, as I have never tried one. If in doubt, try before you buy.

moving wrists? you dont have underarms? you crazy folks..


oh wait.. you are really small skinny people with ANY muscles on your bodies? - Hah, as if a keyboard would save your sorry asses!!

s/with/without

well u could just get a default keyboard driver with dvorak mapping (google for it). you will have to know the keys though...
i really like this layout. a lot of words can be typed without even changing the rows but although its intention is said to be (possible) faster and more relaxed typing, i got the feeling that my left arm/hand got stressed too much (all vowels there).
anyway i doubt this would increase coding speed ;)

if you have a standard keyboard where you can swap the keys, you can make your own dvorak as ttl said.
concerning keyboards: I still have my standard chikony one and I love it since now 10 years :)
and yes, the IBM one's are a nice typing experience.

I use this one for the desktop:



and I love it.

i just use cheapo keyboards and use them till they die (typically after around one year - by the point the springs for the space bar are through, i normally throw them away).

never had a problem with my fingers, hands, wrists or anything else :)

ryg: I didn't have a problem til one day ... and then it was searing pain down the entire left or right arm, and I went "right! let's find a keyboard that doesn't do that."

And so I did, and the pain lessened to the point that I can actually use a normal keyboard now. But I do know that eventually it will return.

This is a problem of course when using laptops...
So anyway my point is - split keyboards can help to reduce a potential problem. And of course not using a mouse but instead using a trackball can help (: Oh, and not starting typing on a c64 may also help (: People have informed me I am the _loudest_ typist they have ever heard... I think that came from pounding the hell out of the c64 keyboard at 70/80 wpm (:

I havent changed my keyboard since, uh, 7-8 years now? (Well ok the fauna in it is becoming curious, but...)

Personally I use a cheapo logitech laptopkey affair, but I seriously crave the keyboard I posted a picture of. It's layout makes sense imho.


So girlfriends ought to be a year younger than my keyboard too? Baby molesting for everybody!

yum.