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They're not votes :)

Naming a prod via the prod suggestions will guarantee that the jury takes a close look at them - make sure that your darlings don't fall through the cracks while we sift through 3000 prods. However we make no distinction between a prod being named once or 1000x, and in fact the jurors do not get to see how many times a prod got suggested to avoid bias.

The Meteoriks has always tried to not be a popularity contest; counting votes would be contrary to that intent.

There is no shame in going back and adding a 5th one. If you couldn't decide between some entries, do coin toss or pick a straw.

I think picking five productions is really difficult, and I wouldn't ever want to be in your shoes. But choosing only four gives people the impression that the rest just wasn't good enough, and that feels a bit disrespectful to the makers.

Midschool is the category I'm most interested in, and to me this year wasn't bad at all. I could easily point out some great demos, but I won't do it (unless they pay me in rare goods!).
Just my $0.02...

Adding a 5th (or 5th plus 6th) entry now would immediately reveal that those entries are not among the top 4 (as those are already publicly known) which in itself feels a bit disrespectful.

Perfectly reasonable choice, thank you for the insight.

Congrats to all nominated! It's funny that it's always difficult to motivate people to take part in a jury - and then the same people complain once the nominations are out.
Get involved next time!

@v3nom: I think the question why one of the categories only got 4 nominees instead of 5 is completely okay. In fact dojoes explanation was a quite interesting insight into the jurys’ choosing-process.

What TfT said

Also what Jazzcat said!

What v3nom said.

I’m baffled at how certain people refuse to accept that a group of sceners reviewing and discussing a year’s worth of demos over the course of several months might sometimes yield an outcome that doesn’t match a random Pouet commenter’s knee-jerk opinion… and treat that as a bug that needs to be fixed (“do a coin toss”? seriously, do we have to explain why that would be a shitty idea?)

Sometimes the Meteoriks results are surprising. If they weren’t, there wouldn’t be much point in doing it, would there?

How is a coin toss worse than nothing at all? If it was tricky to pick one out of X prods that you felt were all deserving of the 5th nomination, why not do a random selection between those. Faith decides. Everyone is happy.

if there is one thing we learned about demo nominations is that never everyone is happy :D

what that other person said

also, coin toss in 2026 sounds positively prehistoric

Let's address the simple truth here: That whole problem wouldn't exist if someone had put more effort into their prod.

Maybe you are into a bad future . . ? . .

12c4

Let us call it the “mid-school mid-effort category”

To the OTA jury:
Out of the many technically great things released on the C-64, you've picked Nine to nominate.

With all due respect to LFT and his nice demo, nine sprites have been already unlocked on the C-64, 15~ years ago, thus it is not an 'achievement', but another take on the matter. He uses tech discovered by Crossbow in 1992 (a partially visible GULB scroll to convert 2 expanded sprites to 3 hires), questionable if it is 'outstanding'.
The jury ignore that last year we released a demo with 11 sprites, with a new approach (as far as I know).
Mind you the 'unwritten rules' for such a record to exist, every sprite is:
hires shaped, has a different image, color, variable fine X position, side by side on the same rasterlines. Both demo checks these, but one has 11 vs 9 in the other. I think it is humiliating to put it mildly to ignore our demo.

That said, fe. Codeboys & Endians had more worthy C64 routines for Outstanding Technical Achievement to begin with.

Actual real 9 sprites (in a rasterline) have been demonstrated first in Krestage 3. =)

"Nine" is an overall very neat package with a new combination of old tricks, and can be presented to a mass audience that's not so deep in the nitty-gritty technical details.

(And people seem to like tech write-ups and why-this-is-cool explainer videos and keep referring to them for years even if newer/better techniques have been invented in the meanwhile.)

Krill, yes Krestage 3 is the only real deal, too bad it can't display a solid sprite vertically. But, you are right I should have said "sprite trick" to all mentioned demos.

I think the responses in this entire thread is a pretty solid proof that if you take 5 sceners who don't already have a bit of rapport with each other, put them together, and make them select "up to 5 best prods in this category", it will be a really difficult exercise

omg! you just invented subjectivity!

is this – again – the year of "I'm going to start my own demoscene awards with blackjack and hookers"?

you don't even need to do that, just apply as a meteoriks juror next year, if you're think you'd be better at it

but what if you're not think