Random ramblings by a lovely satanic ex(ish)-scener who spreads the fake news of being on a Higher State Of Consciousness *)
category: residue [glöplog]
No, you can't list them. I never insulted you, except when you insulted me. Then you got back what you served. That's how it works.
"Physical threats"? Look what I wrote:
You're as scripted as you can get. Nobody threatened you. I said say what you have into my face, and offered to settle it like men. That's not a threat, you retard. It would be if it wasn't optional. You can choose to accept it, or be a coward. You chose the latter. No surprise!
"Minorities", really? Go ahead and quote those "ugly ramblings". Protip: you can't. Because those "ugly ramblings" only exist in your demented, soy-addicted mind! Idiots like you, or ps, or seemingly D.Fox make up alternate realities and firmly believe in them. Who cares what is true or false about it? You just need to believe, and you sure do! In the recent few weeks, I learned the following things about myself from you and your like-minded brethren:
- I've never contributed or produced anything
- I've never been to a demoparty before 2024
- I am regularly physically attacking sceners at demoparties
- I am forcing other sceners to listen at political speeches
- I am specifically targeting Jewish sceners to present National Socialist views about Judaism to them
- I am operating a death squad that intimidates and attacks people
- I specifically tried to find and kill kb of farbrausch
- I am a member of an unspecified Hungarian far-right political movement that targets "certain circles" (also unspecified)
Some of these were deadass stated to the court by Revision orgs. And the document was written by a guy who visited the demoparty I organized, and in fact was a guest of our family for a week! Seriously, what the fuck are you leftist retards smoking?! At no point does it occur to you how ridiculous most of your beliefs are?
"Physical threats"? Look what I wrote:
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But if you think this is a "threat", which I'm sure you do, because you're retarded
You're as scripted as you can get. Nobody threatened you. I said say what you have into my face, and offered to settle it like men. That's not a threat, you retard. It would be if it wasn't optional. You can choose to accept it, or be a coward. You chose the latter. No surprise!
"Minorities", really? Go ahead and quote those "ugly ramblings". Protip: you can't. Because those "ugly ramblings" only exist in your demented, soy-addicted mind! Idiots like you, or ps, or seemingly D.Fox make up alternate realities and firmly believe in them. Who cares what is true or false about it? You just need to believe, and you sure do! In the recent few weeks, I learned the following things about myself from you and your like-minded brethren:
- I've never contributed or produced anything
- I've never been to a demoparty before 2024
- I am regularly physically attacking sceners at demoparties
- I am forcing other sceners to listen at political speeches
- I am specifically targeting Jewish sceners to present National Socialist views about Judaism to them
- I am operating a death squad that intimidates and attacks people
- I specifically tried to find and kill kb of farbrausch
- I am a member of an unspecified Hungarian far-right political movement that targets "certain circles" (also unspecified)
Some of these were deadass stated to the court by Revision orgs. And the document was written by a guy who visited the demoparty I organized, and in fact was a guest of our family for a week! Seriously, what the fuck are you leftist retards smoking?! At no point does it occur to you how ridiculous most of your beliefs are?
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If you have a problem with me, come to Evoke, we can go behind that old building, and settle it like men. I may be almost 50, but won't run from you. But if you think this is a "threat", which I'm sure you do, because you're retarded, just stop screeching like a pussy, and definitely stop talking shit about me.
Hmmm... Sounds like someone wants desperately to get banned from Evoke or something. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Do you also have a problem with basic reading skills?
Call me retarded, I don't give a shit, but I get the impression that your words sounded like a threat (the cheap rhetorical trick you use by saying "you might think it's a threat but it's not" only reinforces that impression).
That's what I think, I could be wrong and you could be a saint being persecuted by a bunch of scoundrels, of course.
That's what I think, I could be wrong and you could be a saint being persecuted by a bunch of scoundrels, of course.
Why yes, I must call you retarded if you act retarded. Whether it's because you actually are, or just pretend you are, does not change the outcome. Let me break it down for you, and all the other retards who seem to frequent this place, what is a threat, and what isn't. It seems to be very necessary, as you seemingly never took a step out of your nursery.
The problem is that the fact filter in your little brain is broken. When you're looking at a fact, or a factual statement, you aren't evaluating it as a mature person. Your evaluation filter works like this: "Oh, there must be a way to force it around to fit my narrative. A narrative which I will never ever revise, because it defines my self-identity, and also my relation to the community I rely on for validation."
Actually, there's little point in explaining anything, because you're already trying to force this very response into said narrative. You're doing your best mental gymnastics right now to reinterpret it. You are trying to match it to the already asserted conclusion that I am merely mocking you, my sole reason to write this is to insult you, and your objective in this exchange must be to prove that you are far superior in any possible way to me. For you, a conversation is a dick measuring contest. Nevertheless, I will continue - maybe hoping that somebody chooses this exact moment to smack you over the head with a kitchen pan, which results in the temporary restoration of your frontal lobe functions.
Your asserted conclusion, for which you're seeking validation for, is that I "threatened" v3nom. In fact, his brain is broken the same way, so it's no wonder you're arriving to the same "conclusion". Neither of you are here to understand anything, but to validate yourselves. That means both in front of yourselves - internal validation - and in front of each other - external validation.
Yes, I know you're inclined to make a hilariously witty comment, in an attempt to degrade my whole presentation, and thus invalidate it. This is the mental equivalent of shitting on the chessboard. Although it doesn't win the game for you, it still saves you from the terrible embarrassment of losing.
Anyway...
Telling someone that if he has a problem, he can come and tell it in your face, then try to beat you if he dares, is not a threat. It's not, because it leaves the decision with the other party. I hope this isn't very difficult to follow?
Why would I make such proposal? I did because this moron here keeps pestering, insulting and accusing me, in the most cowardly way. For quite some time now.
What is a threat? A threat is the promise of violence or other serious disadvantage, over which the threatened party has no control.
It's incredible that I must explain this to adult men, but it seems microplastics did their work on you.
And while we are at it, you're also projecting. A lot. Every time a moron like v3nom or you goes off on me, and gets a response in kind, you're outraged to the moon and back for being "insulted". This is going as far as complaining to a court that I called someone a "cupcake" on pouet. Yes, this is literally how D.Fox & Co. is trying to argue.
Please understand that if you appear and say things like "don't talk to tomcat, he is just a sad Nazi troll" or along these lines, I will tell you to go and fuck yourself. If you interpret this situation as if you were just chilling and doing nothing, and told you to fuck yourself out of blue, then you really are retarded. Under retarded, I mean actually in need of psychiatric evaluation. The same goes for you if you confuse your fantasies with objective reality, and imagine things like I listed in a comment earlier.
Now please try to interpret what I wrote, because I really tried my best to make you understand your failings. The purpose of this comment is not to harm or insult you, but to help you reorient yourself in objective reality. Quit seeking grievances where aren't any, and also quit attacking others, then denying it even to yourself. Did I make myself clear?
The problem is that the fact filter in your little brain is broken. When you're looking at a fact, or a factual statement, you aren't evaluating it as a mature person. Your evaluation filter works like this: "Oh, there must be a way to force it around to fit my narrative. A narrative which I will never ever revise, because it defines my self-identity, and also my relation to the community I rely on for validation."
Actually, there's little point in explaining anything, because you're already trying to force this very response into said narrative. You're doing your best mental gymnastics right now to reinterpret it. You are trying to match it to the already asserted conclusion that I am merely mocking you, my sole reason to write this is to insult you, and your objective in this exchange must be to prove that you are far superior in any possible way to me. For you, a conversation is a dick measuring contest. Nevertheless, I will continue - maybe hoping that somebody chooses this exact moment to smack you over the head with a kitchen pan, which results in the temporary restoration of your frontal lobe functions.
Your asserted conclusion, for which you're seeking validation for, is that I "threatened" v3nom. In fact, his brain is broken the same way, so it's no wonder you're arriving to the same "conclusion". Neither of you are here to understand anything, but to validate yourselves. That means both in front of yourselves - internal validation - and in front of each other - external validation.
Yes, I know you're inclined to make a hilariously witty comment, in an attempt to degrade my whole presentation, and thus invalidate it. This is the mental equivalent of shitting on the chessboard. Although it doesn't win the game for you, it still saves you from the terrible embarrassment of losing.
Anyway...
Telling someone that if he has a problem, he can come and tell it in your face, then try to beat you if he dares, is not a threat. It's not, because it leaves the decision with the other party. I hope this isn't very difficult to follow?
Why would I make such proposal? I did because this moron here keeps pestering, insulting and accusing me, in the most cowardly way. For quite some time now.
What is a threat? A threat is the promise of violence or other serious disadvantage, over which the threatened party has no control.
It's incredible that I must explain this to adult men, but it seems microplastics did their work on you.
And while we are at it, you're also projecting. A lot. Every time a moron like v3nom or you goes off on me, and gets a response in kind, you're outraged to the moon and back for being "insulted". This is going as far as complaining to a court that I called someone a "cupcake" on pouet. Yes, this is literally how D.Fox & Co. is trying to argue.
Please understand that if you appear and say things like "don't talk to tomcat, he is just a sad Nazi troll" or along these lines, I will tell you to go and fuck yourself. If you interpret this situation as if you were just chilling and doing nothing, and told you to fuck yourself out of blue, then you really are retarded. Under retarded, I mean actually in need of psychiatric evaluation. The same goes for you if you confuse your fantasies with objective reality, and imagine things like I listed in a comment earlier.
Now please try to interpret what I wrote, because I really tried my best to make you understand your failings. The purpose of this comment is not to harm or insult you, but to help you reorient yourself in objective reality. Quit seeking grievances where aren't any, and also quit attacking others, then denying it even to yourself. Did I make myself clear?
You're boring me to death. Good night.
Ah yes. You did indeed shit on the chessboard. How very typical.
Anyway, if you find reading difficult, maybe some cheap pop culture helps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoEUkE7-KeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoEUkE7-KeA
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You seem to have no idea who I am
legends do not need to claim to be legendary. Also, everyone can look up your achievements, they're publicly documented online.
Also enough with the insults towards v3nom. All they achieve is losing you even more of the respect you claim to deserve.
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legends do not need to claim to be legendary. Also, everyone can look up your achievements, they're publicly documented online..
And now, gladly, I will take back what I said :) Apologies. Just couldn't find a demozoo linking under your pouet acc, tomcat.
No worries, "Pouet = Scene" is a common misconception.
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No worries, "Pouet = Scene" is a common misconception.
Indeed, I often personally find Pouet the reddit or even 4chan of the demoscene.
tomcat, it's interesting how you call me a retard, when you are the one turning everything upside down and projecting. You're throwing insults, you're the one suing demoparties, you're the one asking for respect without being respectful on your own. I won't reply to you anymore.
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soy-addicted
Got any facts or evidence to back up that wild unsubstantiated and heavily biased claim, bucko?
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@minebrandon I see you're new here. Not only you know little, you also seem to think you know everything.
No I know about Freax's existence, it just didn't cross my mind because whenever people say they want demoscene in books, they're talking about demoscene in books that aren't Freax. (Yes I know one of the Hungarians mentioned your name in Moleman 2)
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legends do not need to claim to be legendary.
I never claimed to be legendary. I said he has no idea who I am.
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And now, gladly, I will take back what I said :) Apologies. Just couldn't find a demozoo linking under your pouet acc, tomcat.
Wow, thank you. See this, y'all? He can use Demozoo. And manners.
@v3nom
Please, I am done talking to you or ham. I could type into /dev/null and it would be more productive. You are clearly mentally ill, reject reality, and stubbornly defend your skewed echo chamber.
@minebrandon
Sorry, your comment came across as if you didn't. There are plenty of other books and documentaries about the scene, and these days even research papers, even though they content and quality may vary. That's what scamp mentioned, and I agree. The problem is that simply cataloging artifacts, even preserving them, does not preserve the demoscene itself. I really don't see a way to do that, and I think - if it wasn't obvious - that the heydays of the scene have long passed. There may be a demoscene even now, and in 20-25 years, but it's not the original demoscene.
The same happened with Eurovision...it's not the same contest anymore that true oldschoolers remember with true artists like Abba and shit. Now it's a mere shadow of the past, where newcomers try to fit in, but in reality just distort what's left from it. You either accept it and move on, or become bitter and ramble like an old grumpy cat how everything goes down the drain.
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Many or even most of "our" "historians" who hold lectures about what the demo scene is today have not even be part of it for long, and we are now reaching a level where we have demoscene historians who have not been part of the scene quoting other demoscene historians who also have not been part of the scene as an original source.
Scamp, I'm honestly puzzled about whom you actually mean. Maybe there are some young PhD students who work on scene history and who haven't been part of the scene (which is, however, a normal thing, when a topic becomes subject of academic enquiry), but I can assure you that the absolute majority of academic historians who published on scene history up to now have a scene background themselves. Jesper Juul, whose excellent new C64 book was mentioned here, prefers not to fly his old handles, but he has C64 cracking credentials as part of a prominent Danish group reaching back to 1986. Markku Reunanen, who is a pioneer of academic demoscene research, is Marq of Fit, and you surely know his history and productions. Daniel Botz, who has published the pioneering 2011 monograph on demoscene aesthetics ("Kunst, Code, Maschine"), has a background in early 1990s Amiga music, if I'm not mistaken. Patryk Wasiak, who published the very first academic article ("Illegal guys") about the scene in a historical journal, has not been a scener, but was an active C64 user in late socialist Poland and also knows the subject not just from hearsay. I'm not gonna talk about myself here, as you know all the facts. So, which "imposter historians" exactly are you talking about? Just curious...
(and, holy, shit, tomcat has once again made this thread all about himself. doesn't look like one can properly discuss here anymore)
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(and, holy, shit, tomcat has once again made this thread all about himself. doesn't look like one can properly discuss here anymore)
This is why “live and let live” does not work as a moderation strategy.
Kinda funny to observe how a thread can easily get derailed by a bunch of people and their very own personal sensitivies. Probably a nice topic for a upcoming phd?
No, I did not "make it about myself". Read back and find who came into this topic to deliver personal attacks. Now you're continuing it. You could have just responded to scamp and pass, but no, you couldn't resist. Moderation? Yeah, a good idea, as long as moderators are capable of objectivity.
first personal attack:
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@minebrandon I see you're new here. Not only you know little, you also seem to think you know everything.
Yeah, moron, every disagreement is a "personal attack". Why don't you call the police right away?
Anyway, I fed this thread into ChatGPT. I assume there is no dispute that it delivers an impartial analysis over any text. Its judgment was:
First personal attack: tomcatmwi (to minebrandon).
Main escalators: ^ML!^, v3nom, and then tomcatmwi.
Sustained, most aggressive attacks: tomcatmwi, though in response to ongoing targeting.
Misrepresentation of reality: Mostly from v3nom and allies, by asserting accusations without evidence.
Well, in that case, I apologize to minebrandon. My intent wasn't to attack him in person, but to point out his glaring mistake. I will not apologize for anything I wrote "in response to ongoing targeting". Anyone else may post their own apologies.
First personal attack: tomcatmwi (to minebrandon).
Main escalators: ^ML!^, v3nom, and then tomcatmwi.
Sustained, most aggressive attacks: tomcatmwi, though in response to ongoing targeting.
Misrepresentation of reality: Mostly from v3nom and allies, by asserting accusations without evidence.
Well, in that case, I apologize to minebrandon. My intent wasn't to attack him in person, but to point out his glaring mistake. I will not apologize for anything I wrote "in response to ongoing targeting". Anyone else may post their own apologies.