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Gargaj I knew it right from the get go (or at least pretty much suspected it) and when I saw the mods being totally clueless as to what happened I was pretty much certain. May I kindly remind you that pouet is just a site, party meister is also not a demotool, heck even this is in the database. Anyway if you don't want it included on pouet you should just said. Still I don't know why it would be not good to be included as a scene prod here when technically it is pretty much one.

NFO for https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=91233 appears to be a screenshot instead of a textfile.

There is a problem with this prod: ...
Hello!
There is a first comment to the demo and it has ".Z." signature by ded^RMDA (https://www.pouet.net/user.php?who=30541)

I would like to remove this line as it most likely associates with symbol of Russian aggresion. I'm originally from Ukraine and it hurts.
Maybe I'm wrong and it means something different, but I would not start any discussions in this regards on public.
Thanks!

defiance: disappointing...

pulkomandy: done

koval: can we discuss this in private? discord, facebook, irc, twitter, email..?

sure! I've updated contact fields in my profile - email/telegram/discord works for me at any time.

And as such should be removed.

https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=91242

Screenshot and NFO and filename say the prod name is Tollel

Prod name in Pouet is Tottel

Gargaj as much as I deeply respect you for your work and as a person, and I really hate to write this but what you did is censorship man (What if this started to happen to other productions or people simply because you don't like them/disagree with them/etc...?).

@PulkoMandy: fixed

defiance: everyone is free to form their own opinion on what is or is not a demotool. your opinion is clearly different from ours. imho we responded to you fairly, you have expressed your views multiple times now. and you already admitted that you knew the answer to your initial question before you even asked it, so you could've known you'd be wasting our time right from the get-go. yet you seem to be unwilling to end this attempt at creating drama on this thread. i seriously suggest you to re-assess the situation that has arisen and to stop with pointlessly lamenting that single prod which you think should be added and we don't. thank you in advance.

Besides, curating a database is not censorship.

havoc: I have nothing against you or sens, I really appreciate the time you spent trying to investigate what happened, I really do, as I said. What bothers me is that a single individual makes the call about what must be included or not in the database (and to remind you I did not broke any rules regarding adding a prod). I mostly suspected it was Gargaj but before starting to point fingers I had to make sure. I am stopping and really don't want to fuel this anymore but this doesn't change the fact that the prod was deleted for no reason other than Gargaj not wanting it to be in database. It had nothing to do with if it was a demo tool or not.

defiance: when i said the decision was "ours" i really did not mean to say it was "gargaj's". please just accept that instead of reiterating your own POV again, that path leads nowhere useful.

havoc: Gargaj plainly admits that he deleted it a page ago, while you and sens said you had nothing to do with it. How did it come down to "ours" decision now? Also, I stated facts not my POV (except for the censorship bit).

defiance: like you i instantly "knew" who deleted the prod, i just did not remember the exact argumentation. sens is my witness if you won't take my word for it. your "facts" are therefore obviously based on incorrect assumptions, we are not clueless or unaware of anything in any way. we just decided to politely hint at who you should have DM-ed from the get-go instead of trying to make this a pointlessly public debate because this thread really is not the right place for that kind of conversation.

havoc: I believed and believe both you and sens right from the start, I know you had nothing to do with it. It is that this thread is about the prods and database in general that I chose to write here about it. Sorry if I wasted your time, but I think you understand my position and why I reacted like this.

defiance: no worry, i won't carry any longtime frustration over this for sure. all i is really saying is, let's not debate so much on this thread but more in DM if such a disagreement/confsuing situation ever arises again somehow :)

havoc: You are pretty much right and I couldn't agree more. At the end of the day friendship and good company is all that matters in the demoscene, and the world is already as much as fucked up as it is right now, for us to argue over something petty like this. I'm really sorry for causing all this mess in the first place + derailing the thread. Of course, I won't carry any frustration either the demoscene is much more things than just a tool or a prod. :)

https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=33972

Platform should be Animation/Video

There is a problem with this prod: somehow related to this one.

Also this prod somehow related to this one.

done

When uploading this prod, I provided a screenshot and a few credits with the submit. Submission was a success - however I had to add the screenshot again afterwards, and I still don't see the credits I added.

May I ask to change my vote in the comment to this prod: ... from neutral to rulezz, please :)
Thanks!

@photon: credits have to get the accept button press by glopperators like they do for years. about the screenshot: who knows what went wrong during data flying though the cables.

@.koval: nope. but you can vote again with another comment as long as you did not chose thumbs up or down. but since selfvoting still sucks in 2o22 there might consequences by others ;)

Please add this youtube url
(Live video)

https://youtu.be/cUORGtCkoJ8

To this prod:

https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=91267

Thank u becoz i still havent the rights for this..