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does ZX Spectrum platform needs to be subdivided?

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Which features? If you're using >128K memory (for example)


In "Reality" and "ZombieTV" vector interrupt adressing at $5C00.
added on the 2015-07-09 11:30:33 by g0blinish g0blinish
@Alone_Coder:
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A Spectrum enhancement? Chutzpah! It CAN'T be connected to any Spectrum even with a soldering iron. If we don't count connecting one computer (CPU+RAM+Video) to another. This is because TS-Config uses CPU's memory intensively. VERY INTENSIVELY.

So you want to redefine "enhancement" as "can be created by modifying an existing machine with a soldering iron"? That's nice, but that's not the definition the rest of us are using. By that logic, a modern PC doesn't count as a PC because you can't make one by soldering stuff to an IBM 8088.

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VBI is an interested person...


Oh, quit it with the ad-hominem arguments. It's completely irrelevant whether he stole your group name, or got banned from a forum somewhere, or sets fire to kittens in a dustbin in his free time. That doesn't invalidate his opinion on Pouet platform classifications.
added on the 2015-07-09 11:48:20 by gasman gasman
@psb

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original speccy does not contain a slot for sd, hdd and other things, they didn't exist in 80th.


this is true. i DEMAND to remove from pouet all Atari XL, Atari ST, Amiga 500 and 1200, and also mac and pc - in their times, when the machines were ORIGINAL, they didn't contain a slot for sd, nor even CF card!

they are NOT original then, and as such, must be instantly removed to "Wild".
added on the 2015-07-09 11:51:47 by johny johny
@Alone Coder
Of course, I'm an interested person.
Not in private, not in joke, I can repeat for your logs once again: TSC is not ZX.
It is based on ZX and is fully backward compatible with Pentagon clone.
It was put into ZX category since we had no separate one. Now it's removed from ZX.
TSConf is a ZX of my dream, I wish it was made in 90-s in times of Amiga. I created it in only purpose, to give a new breath to ZX branch, hoping that someone would like new possibilities.

Considering my Hungarian, I speak it worse than I'd like to. But I like one saying I learned years ago:
"Nevess, és a világ veled nevet. Gyűlöl, és egyedül gyűlölsz."
"Laugh and the world laughs with you. Hate and you'll hate alone."
"Egyedül" means "alone".
Alone, Carl.
added on the 2015-07-09 11:52:11 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
> By that logic, a modern PC doesn't count as a PC because you can't make one by soldering stuff to an IBM 8088.
Yes. And - surprisingly - note, there is no PC platform on pouet.

>Oh, quit it with the ad-hominem arguments. It's completely irrelevant whether he stole your group name, or got banned from a forum somewhere, or sets fire to kittens in a dustbin in his free time. That doesn't invalidate his opinion on Pouet platform classifications.
So any author can name his prod anything, say, write for Windows and name it Atari VCS? What a demoscene there will be!
Два раза проигнорировал вопрос+игнор вызова ==слив по полной
added on the 2015-07-09 12:18:08 by g0blinish g0blinish
> I created it in only purpose, to give a new breath to ZX branch, hoping that someone would like new possibilities.

Sweet words. And two embedder's CVs waiting for approval in the USA. ...Let's return to the beginning... In the beginning you were even banned in #ru.embedded. In the beginning you couldn't make your own board, so you used NedoPC's, you couldn't even start your firmware from scratch, so you used lvd's (so that's why Pentagon in there). One of the first versions of your firmware skipped memory writing once per 10000 writes, and you couldn't find it without lvd's help. He wrote you a testbench, and you couldn't use it. You came to his home and failed to run your firmware on his board. (BTW does this bug persist?) You trolled NedoPC and lied about it everywhere and were proud of it, and you were banned at NedoPC's mailing list, NedoPC's server and #mhm channel. What a nice path to giving new breath! Bad breath.
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So any author can name his prod anything, say, write for Windows and name it Atari VCS? What a demoscene there will be!


If someone does that, we will all say "no, that isn't an Atari VCS demo, because it runs on Windows", and change the category. We will not say "no, that isn't an Atari VCS demo, because he called my mother a hamster once in 1997."
added on the 2015-07-09 12:23:18 by gasman gasman
Can I also remember how you tamed one zx-pk.ru moderator after another, and only recently they managed to ban three of your accounts (do I count right?). Sadly your sect had time to make an "exodus" show and make me accused in this exodus...
>If someone does that, we will all say "no, that isn't an Atari VCS demo, because it runs on Windows", and change the category.

So I say "no, that isn't a Spectrum demo, because 1. it was shown from YouTube on the compo, 2. it was in Enhanced Demo, not in Combined 8-bit demo, 2. this device can't be connected to and Spectrum". Why my (and lvd';s, hippiman's, screw's etc) words don't count? Just because provokers arrive en masse, while regular laymen are not so active?
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And two embedder's CVs waiting for approval in the USA.

I passed 2 inteviews (1 in USA and 1 in Czechia) 1,5 years ago and free to go as soon as I finish my business in Ukraine. Actually, see no problem for you to pass an interview, if you can offer your skills anywhere in the world. Your English is good. But adding 'I created a pouet platform' into anyone's CV looks really funny :)
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In the beginning you were even banned in #ru.embedded

Not in beginning, but I was. Because of their policies. The obscene language is only allowed to use by moderators there, pity.
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In the beginning you couldn't make your own board, so you used NedoPC's

They looked for developers, I joined them.
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you couldn't even start your firmware from scratch

I found it easier to use lvd's code as a basis, I did. 90% of his spaghetti code was re-factored, though.
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(so that's why Pentagon in there)

Not because of that, but due to 99% Russian demos compatibility. The Pentagon part was written from the scratch. You may inspect the sources if curious.
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One of the first versions of your firmware skipped memory writing once per 10000 writes, and you couldn't find it without lvd's help.

The reason for that phenomenon is still unknown, but it was eliminated by another approach I used. LVD was ready to help, I confirm.
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One of the first versions of your firmware skipped memory writing once per 10000 writes, and you couldn't find it without lvd's help.

He did not write any testbench because he failed to compile my sources in ModelSIM.
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You came to his home and failed to run your firmware on his board.

It ran, but showed a bug in graphics engine (my fault in an earlier version of HDL, that was fixed few days later).
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You trolled NedoPC and lied about it everywhere and were proud of it

I didn't lie, I only exposed their shortages in a way totally accepted by NedoPC group.
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and you were banned at NedoPC's mailing list

...with reason 'provoking conflicts by anyone besides LVD'.
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and #mhm channel

By you by quite obvious reasons.
added on the 2015-07-09 12:46:34 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
TS-Labs>The Pentagon part was written from the scratch. You may inspect the sources if curious.
You are tricky! The Pentagon part was REWRITTEN by you, after a long time. And not in a clean room.

TS-Labs>By you by quite obvious reasons.
The latest ban:
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[07.07 11:16] LordVader [~lvd@213.251.197.1531] включил режим +b *!*@*mibbit.com
[07.07 11:16] DZR [~5d7f509d@x-2716.mibbit.com] покинул #mhm

I know you change nicks frequently but that was you, sure.
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Can I also remember how you tamed one zx-pk.ru moderator after another, and only recently they managed to ban three of your accounts (do I count right?).

Wrong. Two accounts.
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Sadly your sect had time to make an "exodus" show and make me accused in this exodus...

We 'made' you accused in a way we 'do' it here. Just letting you blossom on a full range.
And let me remind you, that you were banned from zx-pk.ru by the very moderators you love so much.
added on the 2015-07-09 12:58:41 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
A prompter is correcting me: "YouTube" was a joke in the translation. It was *.mp4, not YouTube.
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You are tricky! The Pentagon part was REWRITTEN by you, after a long time. And not in a clean room.

The first thing I did when started with TSConf HDL it was expelling LVD's videocontroller, including but not limited to ATM turbo, all Baseconf jerky ports (that never were a part of ATM), memory pager, etc.
I clean my room few times a week, thank you for asking.
added on the 2015-07-09 13:02:43 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
>And let me remind you, that you were banned from zx-pk.ru by the very moderators you love so much.
I don't love anybody except my wife and ZX Spectrum. And I'm always ready to return when your started exodus will finish. Having said A, say B. (Can I quote when you told you quit zx-pk.ru completely?)
is it a thread about subdivision ZXs' or was it thread "which dick is thicker"?
added on the 2015-07-09 13:03:21 by g0blinish g0blinish
Alone Coder, you are so lovely dude! You made immeasurably much for TSConf in that PR and advertising part. Everywhere you are, you did it. You are able to upsell anyone much better than any producer or a PR agency is able to. As you constantly say, everyone is payed out by our 'sect', then I would suspect you to be the first and only.
Thank you heartly!
added on the 2015-07-09 13:11:26 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
Who ordered Russian drama? Here you are =)
added on the 2015-07-09 13:12:16 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
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Why my (and lvd';s, hippiman's, screw's etc) words don't count?

If you want them to count, then propose a better solution. We've already discussed the problems with the alternatives (creating a platform entry for every conceivable hardware variation = will clutter up the Pouet database; leaving TS-Conf demos in wild = ignores the fact that TS-Conf is now a well-established platform with plenty of releases). At this point it just seems like you're repeating "NOT A SPECTRUM" over and over.
added on the 2015-07-09 13:19:44 by gasman gasman
does load ZX Spectrum programs?
does have the ZX in hardware's name?

(equals: it's NOT Citroen ZX - it cannot load ZX programs.
the case of: "how to distinguish a human from a pig: human is a pink hairless animal too - but WITH flat finger-nails).

so TSC it is a ZX platform.
added on the 2015-07-09 13:33:51 by johny johny
Few quotes from proud troll TS-Labs:

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mhm 24 feb 2011
[22:49] <TS-Labs_> обожаю вбрасывать про пентево - там вбросовый запас лет на 1000
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[22:49] <CHRV> да никакого вброса не будет просто идешь нахуй и все вместе со своим сраным мнением
[22:49] <TS-Labs_> годный срач

In English:
[22:49] <TS-Labs_> I like to start trolling (вбрасывать) about Pentevo, it can be trolled for 1000 years
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[22:49] <CHRV> <...> GTFO <...>
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[22:49] <TS-Labs_> nice flame!

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mhm 23 feb 2012
[15:05:21] <TS-Labs> ну вот
[15:05:25] <TS-Labs> просрал все полимеры
[15:07:15] <TS-Labs> алоний зачем свалил?
[15:07:23] <TS-Labs> я тока хотел его тролить

In English:
[15:05:21] <TS-Labs> well
[15:05:25] <TS-Labs> lost everything
[15:07:15] <TS-Labs> why Alone quitted?
[15:07:23] <TS-Labs> I just wanted to troll him

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mhm 20 jun 2012
[17:53:16] <TS-Labs> я тебя вчера тролить тока начал а ты выпал )

In English:
[17:53:16] <TS-Labs> yesterday I just started to troll you and you disconnected )

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mhm 18 feb 2013
[22:56:09] <lvd> хороший отмаз
[22:56:14] <TS-Labs_> неа
[22:56:20] <TS-Labs_> честное тролльское

In English:
[22:56:09] <lvd> nice thought-out cause
[22:56:14] <TS-Labs_> no
[22:56:20] <TS-Labs_> my troll's parole of honor!
>the fact that TS-Conf is now a well-established platform with plenty of releases
All their releases come from one sect, and you see who they are. And what is plenty? Are there plenty releases for VVVV or ShaderToy?
Alone Snowden, I can find a bunch of quotations by you and lvd, including but not limited to (I like this expression, really!): boasting, toilet talks, theatenings, trolling etc.
If at least one person here will ask me to.
added on the 2015-07-09 13:42:29 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
BTW are 300 releases for ATM Turbo a plenty?

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