Open sourcing pouet.net ?
category: offtopic [glöplog]
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start rewriting the website from scratch
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maybe just a few weeks
i heard somene tried to do the whole thing from scratch but...
gargaj: nice work! i was mistaken, I've just read about those things.
Current code looks creepy, but at least it works, and its not that big. not sure about rewriting vs improving... sure some cms and things could do it, but it wont be pouet anymore!
Current code looks creepy, but at least it works, and its not that big. not sure about rewriting vs improving... sure some cms and things could do it, but it wont be pouet anymore!
(not sure about not replacing the bbs though...)
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“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”
― Henry Ford
- there is rarely a better thing(security wise) than an audit by the demoscene for any webpage.
- we all love pouet like we love the c64. (even if it is not web 2.0 and fancy)
my 2 cents.
- we all love pouet like we love the c64. (even if it is not web 2.0 and fancy)
my 2 cents.
Can we have the actual full db dump also please?
wullon: The DDL is at https://github.com/lra/pouet.net/blob/master/pouet.sql
Fixtures are planed as I don't want to deal with data each time.
Fixtures are planed as I don't want to deal with data each time.
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Can we have the actual full db dump also please?
pretty please?
Thanks, but I meant the actual data :).
Why not open both the code AND the data?
More redundancy, and I'd love to play with them actually!
Why not open both the code AND the data?
More redundancy, and I'd love to play with them actually!
analogue: i'm indifferent to authorship credits. i do expect my contributed code to be public domain or gpl though.
db dump sounds good, open data ftw.
haven't checked but i think there is no private user info stored in there anyways that couldnt get extracted via crawler.
haven't checked but i think there is no private user info stored in there anyways that couldnt get extracted via crawler.
atleast a snapshot of it would be nice for folks to work with until the rest api is fully in place.
Concerning open data, here is Tim's view on it: 5 star data.
As long as there is not ipadresses and other stuff in the data i dont see why it shouldnt be dumped out if the project is supposed to be open source.
Tho email is hidden-able. That and anything else that is hidden on front-end but in the db should be given serious thought before published away.
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if you read what i posted completly : i was talking about a very basic website : only browsing trough prods and a basic homepage (logo +background). personally i do not need months for this if a database is already setup and if a working example already exists : current pouet website.
i dont know source status : if its small and very well written or a complete mess. sometimes restarting everything is just simpler. and oh, it was just a suggestion.
stefan: afaicr all the email and password stuff is stuffed into sceneID, so not in the pouet tables. i could be wrong though, been a while.
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db dump sounds good, open data ftw.
what about passwords, email or other sensitive data?
cue mandelbulbtro made from pouet db comments.
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i dont know source status
So, who's going to be the first to wipe the complete DB just to point out that releasing this old mess was the worst idea possible? Seriously, I'm all for open-source (but not necessarily for GPL), but I think releasing the old pouet code including all relevant SQL code is the worst possible idea given the quick looks I've had and what I've heard about it in the past.
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Because as soon as pouet switches to a closed 2.0 code base, it will be way more difficult to open it, if ever possible, as Gargaj will be the owner.
I have my personal inhibitions with our hungarian fellow here and I know how the french struggle with semantics in english ...but way not to make a point, you utter waste of resources.
(In other words, directly towards analogue: By opensourcing Pouet 0.9 without any further code audition, you have been acting irresponsibly and stubbornly in worst possible way. You are just making the whole situation worse and more dangreous for the whole site. Thank you very much. Did you think even once about what kind of bugfest the code is?)
if you're worried about sql injections then audit the code and fix them before they get a chance to be exploited.