No more Visual Studio Express (for desktop apps). Discuss.
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Been using Visual Studio for almost 10 years, and it still rocks. Now who's losing, radiantx? And I'm just mocking the IDE Eclipse, not Java itself, which would be a whole different topic :)
Eclipse vs VS, C++ vs Java - Bring the popcorn!
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How are edit and nano IDE's? They're editors, yeah, but I don't see what makes them IDE's.
My point was, *any txt editor can be an interactive dev. environment* if you make it so - I wasn't just suggesting the editors on their own.
Even gedit and notepad can do line numbering, highlighting, and tab ctrl.
Nice non-pony-post btw. ;)
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Even gedit and notepad can do line numbering, highlighting, and tab ctrl.
A decent IDE is doing a lot more than that.
Also, I like to see that miracle version of notepad that has all those hidden features. ;) (yeah, yeah notepad2, notepad++ etc, pp.).
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I wasn't just suggesting the editors on their own.
ddd, hiew, softice to name a few...
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hahaha, knoeki didnt post a pony!
try netbeans very good replacement for vs
and lol @Tjoppen
and lol @Tjoppen
@Tjoppen:
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In general, the longer you have to work with some non-trivial software (such as IDEs, DAWs, Vector/Bitmap/DTP-SW, Browsers) the more likely it is that you grow resentful of it. :)
I totally disagree, I've commercially worked across quite a few platforms, using C/C++/Java/Objective C/Symbian along the way, and I continue to enjoy working with VS all the time. Sure, it has its drawbacks (like intellisense database going nuts, vs worker processes crashing, etc.), but in general the IDE is very transparent. Following VS is XCode (doh! Apple!), and then we end with all Java-based IDEs like Netbeans (ugh! slow!) or Eclipse (little bit faster, but balls still touch).
But now that I've read about the plans about Metro, my world went into pieces. ;)
1 more vote for Netbeans
kbi: there was some actual info on the 1st page about http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2012/06/08/visual-studio-express-2012-for-windows-desktop.aspx
I have been using Code::Blocks since my first hello world program.
Code::Blocks is worse than Notepad + Batch files.
I use both VS and Eclipse a lot and I find Eclipse much better, also for C development (albeit I haven't done C for Windows in it).
Stuff like refactoring, searching for types, etc, works much better in Eclipse, if at all possible with VS..
Stuff like refactoring, searching for types, etc, works much better in Eclipse, if at all possible with VS..
I personally can't stand Eclipse sluggishness... It's like the IDE is doing you a favor every time you ask it to do something...
Something along the lines of "Oh well... I might just compile this for ya..."
Nano + make is pretty fine. These days doing something is a question of finding the time and motivation, not much to do with any editor.
Why do you think that kusma?