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Just wanted to share this with the demoscene - www.gaikai.com . Has anybody heard of them already?

According to the "cannot stream hi res images to you" i suppose, its more of a VPN-Like remote desktop thingy. Like you play on their computer and they send the images to you, only. I would say _that_ is uncrackable.

I forgot to say that _i_ had the error message on my laptop here.

This is basically same bussines model as www.onlive.com, that is "cloud gaming", just a year later (more or less). Seems competition in this area is slowly building up...

There's also G-cluster doing this.

just tried alan wake. it's like 480p youtube quality.
i hate all this cloud stuff btw.

bitnaughty: I tried it a couple of months ago. Played through some Trackmania demo which worked surprisingly well, then tried some shooters which were totally unplayable.

xyz: so is it really, as wertstahl says, sending only the images to the client? (btw, wertstahl, I'm pretty sure you meant VNC, not VPN, right?)
it reminds me of the Spectrum demo "The Tape Loading Era" by evilpaul, which ran a game WHILE stuff was being loaded - I just wanted to know if it something like that or not, conceptually.

It's h264 video-streaming of games rendered in the cloud. Gaikai recently teamed up with NVIDIA using their new cluster-GPU technology.

Bitnaughty: yeah, sorry. I must refrain from sometimes just saying "what i heard". What i meant was simply a remote desktop. All you get is a videostream with audio. What you send, through a Java Client are control commands. Pretty simple. After i realized that, i had a tiny vision flash of the future. People without computers at home. Only Java-Compatible Televisions. Personal Computer sales declining. Private Computer programming experiences declining. All your precious info carelessly stuffed into the cloud. Country goes to war. Cloud is nuked out. All your data gone. Or: anyways, all your data belongs to the Corporation (you agreed). Someday a scanner detects something they dont like. Zzzap. Your account disconnected. Everything gone. Terrible terrible. I hope this business model fails hard (or stays in a niche).

if i understand well total response time = time to send packet + time to compture on cloud (as usual) + time to receive packet (and decode video frame)

so unless you have a very good connection gameplay would suffer a lot ? or is there something i am missing ?

can wait to try this...

If your country goes to war, I doubt your Bejeweled saves are gonna be your primary concern.

Tried alan wake as well, worked surprisingly well.
Quality is on par with 480p youtube's bitrate but hifgher resolution.
I doubt that my netbook will stream it as well even with the same internet, even streaming 480p youtube usually makes it lag.

Personally I don't like cloud gaming since it will even more remove your rights to the products, but this still is a first example where I actually experienced it working as advertised.
Maybe someday there will be a solution that consumers themselves can use with their machines. I wouldn't mind having a server tucked away in a closet somewhere and using a low powered cheap dumb terminal to game or do tasks. Everything gets centralized nicely that way and you just have to upgrade a single system or back up stuff from a single location...
With current 3G speeds I find myself using teamviewer to remotely use my main machine with my netbook and I have the network drives auto-mounted over FTP as well. I can even stream movies off from my home computer's drive whenever I have a decent signal. Gaming is getting there.

Eh, I dunno. Finally I have a (work) box where I can play games in full HD properly, I'd be nuts to downgrade to a webstream.