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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-01/htc-smartphone-sales-top-u-s-market-as-rim-sinks-canalys-says.html

Gloom: I, PERSONALLY wouldnt trust a news website that has something with mac in the name. :D

"feels so good"

Exin: never trust a financial analyst, they sell utter bullshit for a living :D

Just took a quick look at the actual sales figures for those companies (the figures reported in their financial statements for that period). This is worldwide, which has a bit more meaning anyway:

HTC 13.2m smartphones
Apple 17.07m iPhones
Samsung 27.8m smartphones

Apple's sales went to 37m in the next 3 months (4S was launched, and it was xmas). Samsungs also went up a lot, think they were roughly similar to apple's. HTC? They've just stopped reporting their phone shipments, but they're warning that their revenues will drop over 50% from the previous year - they're not doing well at all.

exin: you are free to follow the "Source:"-links if you don't trust that particular website.. also: linking to even older articles than the ones you link to before isn't a very convincing argumentation tactic. :)

In short: you're wrong, so the sooner you accept it, the better. :)

2smash:

*cough* vaio?
sorry for that , that's just really interesting what's not in there excepting the price. do you know more than other people? =)

ton: I think it's more about you (and others) knowing _less_, not the other way around. :) Also - the Sony Vaio is quite poorly made. I know because I used to have one.

The normal consumer/"lifestyle" vaios are nothing special I guess (they used to come with some free adobe stuff, like premiere elements though), but the high end sub notebooks of the z series are certainly not "poorly made", but pretty much the best mobile computers money can buy. If you can justify spending 2k+ for a notebook that is.

If we now post pictures of broken Macs, post at least the one shot by Israeli soldiers!

System 6 is the best looking mac OS

zPlex: now find some pc's that were put through the same treatment .. oh.. you can't, because those that were, are now a small pile of black powder and shrapnel :P

Hmm, historically it should be quite obvious that this term hails from the branding of cattle-property which ensured that the cattle farmers could ask a better price for their Brand, IF of course the beef was of corresponding quality.
Maybe this is why I'm opposed to such trade mark "branding" of marketing target- audiences ... I don't like to be considered cattle because nowadays the Brand is not just applied to the product but to those who purchase it as well (to wear, to use, to express a form of status).

gloom, i don't see how does this answer to my (probably too straight) question, so please don't get distracted and keep saying how macs are cool, i have no problem with that.

this really saves the day

well ... I don't think the beef in here has reached the quality of a proper branding by its own, yet ;D

Yesterday, I played live... WITH A MAC.

plaf: PCs are more recycleable then Macs which is a major plus for us that are born by parents of the flower power generation.

the faux rationality is a nice touch

What question was that? " do you know more than other people?" -- because not only is it a completely idiotic question, it was also answered (earlier in the thread even, at least twice).

Nope.

ton: the vaio at comparable spec was _more expensive_..

I thought the argument was that Macs *ARE* PCs.. just PCs that poor chumps buy at 1.5x the price :)

Apple's core business is music and phones, there you have it: it's a lifestyle company

I'm running a pimped out MacPro with both Windows and OSX on it, sure it was expensive (I got a student discount), but i wanted something off the shelf and with good build quality. Having OSX and Windows is handy for me as a producer so I can utilize certain software under both OS's. Any peripherals that i've bought, both audio or otherwsie all have drivers for boths operating systems, so thats a non issue aswell.

I'm not a Mac fanboy though, always built my own PC's, and I have to admit walking in to a University lecture and seeing a wash of white macbooks all making that annoying as hell boot up sound is bloody grating, but students will be students :)

Anyway whatever the fuck you use, just be productive and creative with it, it doesen't really matter :)

gloom my question was to particular person who works at particular place, neither it was idiotic nor i was asking you, as for obvious reason you couldn't answer.

so please take it easy mate, you're representing mac users here, so you need to stay cool - still a lot of people to argue with.