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I find make quite horrible, SCons is far more pleasant.

i've been told bjam is great but woops, no documentation!

is it really true that there are compatibility issues between make versions? i've been using make accross a variety of platforms for 5 years or so. didn't notice much.

the Makefile Demo Scene

make demos, not files.

the point is really platform stability, not developer tools.
Ubuntu might become a suitable platform in middle term future many people equates Ubuntu with Linux, and the most common OS among CS freshmen.

So please, demolinux advocates... stop bitching and start releasing, as usual ;)

the unfortunate thing is, linux using sceners release on windows ;)

(that's what I do, at least)

Cheers for all the replies guys! Will see what I can come up with. I have next week off work so will start looking into it then!

Chris

To be honest, although I love autoconf, and I far prefer coding for Linux than Windows, I'm a hypocrite.

http://www.linuxdemos.org is down ?

WAT

(yes, linuxdemos.org is down for a while, and so is mac.scene.org. hurray for alternative platforms :)

Windows gave Linux an 8 years advance...

like god these days, linux is not powered by money or dependence, but by belief.

when the belief is weak, the platform is meager and the tools are complicated and confusing.
when the belief is strong, the platform is powerful and the tools are easy to use.

like the sagrada familia in barcelona, which is built since over 100 years from donations only, linux has no deadline, and so belief retreats and advances like the tides, while the platform slowly, but steadily grows.

thus, there is always progress, sometimes less, sometimes more, but there is always progress.

I was just wondering... When you code a demo for Linux, do you select libraries by their licence in order to keep you code closed, do release your code source or just don't give a fuck about licences issues ?

paniq: if i were being mean i'd say thats an interesting comparison, because the sagrada familiia is probably working better as a curiosity for fans of fancy architecture than those that wanted to use it as a practical, functioning church on a regular basis.. :)

Paniq: a bit of a stretched comparison, but it somewhat works. :)

paniq: That's B.S. At least 75% of all kernel developers are corporate sponsorships, and they are pushing corporate agendas and deadlines. Linux is pretty much as corporate as any other OS these days.

from linuxfoundation's 2008 development report:

Ehm, "development", not "developers" - my bad.

All of our stuff is cross-platform, although:

a) nobody's tried to get it to complie on a mac yet
b) our "64k" intros are about 69k on linux, due to lack of kkrunchy (I understand there's some sort of upx replacement going around, but we've not seen it)
c) we missed the assembly release deadline due to a bunch of nasty bugs when we tried the final windows port.

Cross platform development: JUST SAY NO

dotwaffle: autoconf was designed in a lab by nazis and tested on jews.

I mean.. "dnl" as a comment? wtf. what twat thought that would be a good idea? I switched to qmake myself.

I'm doing cross platform stuff a lot, and you find memory leaks/access violations you didn't know existed until you ported it to a new platform, so it's very good to run the same code on multiple platforms. But it sure is a lot of work.

also, some people have poked me about using cmake, anyone tried that? It's supposedly good...

It's all down to personal preference. cmake will do a nice percentage/progress column when it's building. The syntax is a bit eccentric, but a lot of people like it.