Pirate Bay trial
category: general [glöplog]
I've found plenty of rare and out of print stuff on TPB, but of course that's what I've exclusively been looking for (one example here, they used to be impossible to find anywhere). I'm happy that some record companies for instance have now reissued old albums on places like iTunes, perhaps due to "competition" from sites such as TPB.
Zest: Should I repeat them in French for you?
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macaw: Which is one of the better ways to do it. In Norway they are considering introducing a yearly fee that you pay in addition to your ISP subscription, which will go towards compensating authors, musicians and moviemakers, which is also a good suggestion. The problem with it now is that the music industry says that this would be impossible, because there would be no way of knowing which artists should get what -- mind you, this is the same music industry that wants ISPs to shut off access to the internet for people who download illegal MP3s. How the latter is possible but the first one isn't is beyond me. :)
HA HA
In Spain we had that crap for decades, the SGAE a corporation, err, non profit organization, who thanks to their lobbying and our shitty politicians now we have to pay a revolutionary tax to them on ANYTHING that can be used for pirating, read, mp3 players, hard disks, recorders an players of vhs, cds, dvds, mobile phones, printers,...
And they been trying to add their "little tax" to ISP as well (as if our ISP weren't cheap enough).
What to they do with that money?
APPARENTLY they give it to the "artists", yes, what gloom said about being impossible to know, they seem to know, and distributes an (undisclosed of course) amount of money to an (undisclosed) random number of "artists".
Heh, no wonder they start shivering when they get threatened of an account inspection.
It is probably we have a rampant piracy on Spain, but to be honest, asuming almost every single spanish is guilty of piracy (because of the tax on the mobile phone) and the fact our politicians suck (I mean, come on minister of culture the very president of the cinematografic association? ever heard of interests conflict? ) doesn't help.
Finally you consider the attitude of TPB childish but the SGAEs deserves an epicfacepalm.jpg for several golden quotes I will not put here so I keep this short.
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The problem with it now is that the music industry says that this would be impossible, because there would be no way of knowing which artists should get what
I guess they'd do it the same way they calculate royalties of music played on the radio, television and in public places.
all the talk about outlawingsearchengines are also nonsence. Its not the same thing. nerdssss
Well, that doesn't work either ... Example from real life: A certain Danish c64-cover band wanted the royalties to go to the composers instead of the general fund-box - Martin Galway, Rub Hubbard and Ben Dagliesh certainly never saw any cash. At least in Denmark, small local radio stations pay their fee based on one day's airplay every half a year (or that was the way it was at least).
It is not the artists who are trying (and failing) to destroy piracy. It is the record companies etc. No doubt they will succeed in closing down TPB, but people will just move on to something else for their piracy needs.
Anything that can kill the record companies would be a good thing for music, given that these days music can be produced cheaply and promoted on the net. Maybe not to an extent where the artist reaches mega-rich superstardom, but then again very few of the artists who reaches that level have reached it through the quality of their art.
An artist should have an urge to create something with an idea, rather than just want to be an artist. An artist will create, no matter if paid which is something I at least hope that most sceners understand. Otherwise actually being on the scene may seem fairly silly.
Hail the pirates - the historical foundation of our scene and the reason game developers have actually developed the skills needed to create games. Haaaarrrrrrggghhh!
It is not the artists who are trying (and failing) to destroy piracy. It is the record companies etc. No doubt they will succeed in closing down TPB, but people will just move on to something else for their piracy needs.
Anything that can kill the record companies would be a good thing for music, given that these days music can be produced cheaply and promoted on the net. Maybe not to an extent where the artist reaches mega-rich superstardom, but then again very few of the artists who reaches that level have reached it through the quality of their art.
An artist should have an urge to create something with an idea, rather than just want to be an artist. An artist will create, no matter if paid which is something I at least hope that most sceners understand. Otherwise actually being on the scene may seem fairly silly.
Hail the pirates - the historical foundation of our scene and the reason game developers have actually developed the skills needed to create games. Haaaarrrrrrggghhh!
why would the money go to a general fundbox and not to dagglish hubbard and galaway? a fast authorcheck through STIM shows that their songs are registred wich means that if you play their music you just fill their names in on the STIM/SACEM whaatever form and they will get their royalties.
and why cant ppl become artists just because they want to? I know ppl who are 100 times more artists than you are without knowing how to play a single instrument. they know how to give a show and sacrifice themself to the public. I prefer watching a show like that instead of some nerd-finn who is freezed behind his computer playing IDM, that I wouldnt stand for 5 mins.
and TPB. childish or not they are still hypocrits.
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and why cant ppl become artists just because they want to?
Mr. Cool has a perfectly good point there.
they better shutdown google too then
because there are gazillion times more warez/mp3/whatever links there
because there are gazillion times more warez/mp3/whatever links there
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they better shutdown google too then
Bah, it's because TPB's core business was profiting off pirating (yeah, running ads making money etc)
According to some legal expert bollocks I read, Google and other search engines are not even considered in this case to be liable for anything.
source: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/20/pirate_bay_legal_analysis/
oh yes I almost forgot they are all poor people at Google :)
legal experts bollocks also know that, no adsense, no googlewords, no sponsorized links, no money, no nothing when you look for warez/mp3/etc there :D
legal experts bollocks also know that, no adsense, no googlewords, no sponsorized links, no money, no nothing when you look for warez/mp3/etc there :D
the key is the 'core business model' though innit. ;)
i think one can argue forever whether this service is legitimate or not, making profit or not. The main point is that file sharing is way to easy to try to block it. The best solution is to legalize it, otherwise there will be lots of stupid controversial situations and everyone will file share anyway, which thanks to technology is easier and easier as time goes. Soon it will be possible to have a YouTube on your flash card. In the age of computer technology selling copies of files is just plain impossible as a business. it is pretty much like selling air.
Personally, I'd rather spend the day squeezing Puryx's rubber duckie than discussing this. So, Puryx, where are you? :) :) :)
squeeeek!
*shrugs* I use Google for looking for torrents anyways...TPB never had much that appeals to me...
exin: make the most of it because the ultimate aim of all this hegelian debating is to draw closer and closer to a "search engine" model where only authorized sites/links are shown in results. all hand picked by our international govenmental bodies.
we've had our fun...now it's internet lockdown time.
we've had our fun...now it's internet lockdown time.
When my cd drive was kaputt i used google to find direct iso downloads for prety much all software needed at that time;
Ms Office
Ms Visual Studio
Photoshop
3dsmax
etc :)
They are however a bit more annoying to sue than tpb.
Ms Office
Ms Visual Studio
Photoshop
3dsmax
etc :)
They are however a bit more annoying to sue than tpb.
google should be sued for mixing the prestige of the City of Lights aka Paris with... paris hilton.
http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/
http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/
City of lights mon viér. Paris on t'encule!
Sacre bleu!
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prestige
You can't mix something that doesn't exist. So Google is right.
