7th Annual Scene.org Awards
category: general [glöplog]
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if you mean the scene.org nominee candidate voting thingie, pretty much stargazer won everything including best 4k and breakthrough performance :)
double thumbs up for scene-wide awards voting!!
4k too?... WAT!? o_O
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if you mean the scene.org nominee candidate voting thingie, pretty much stargazer won everything including best 4k and breakthrough performance :)
ahah great :D - never underestimate the good old 'in your face' prodstyle!
@puryx: someone must have voted for that rumoured hidden part that evidently does not exist.
Haha, thinking Pouet would be a reliable source for nominees is hilarious :D
ok, ok, it didnt. i only said it because it was funny.
its only funny because it were perfectly possible if it were true.
which is somehow sad again :)
which is somehow sad again :)
joke all you want. All I have to say is: if we don´t win "best direction", I will make a huge scene. Man, it´s gonna be awkward.
Andromeda - we direct stuff.
Andromeda - we direct stuff.
FUCK EDGE OF DISGRACE
sorry i just had to get it out
sorry i just had to get it out
damn son, you so edgy you nearly fall off!
No your not, you actually suck and have been ignored by everybody here for the last month lol
A small note to explain nicknames:
Nyak-Nyak (actual Neapolitan-slang nickname was "Gnék-Gnèk", pronounced as "nyak-nyak"), meaning something like: "he has problems in pronouncing some consonants";
Trench-Morty (actually was "Bombardìno", meaning "small trench-mortar"): "short and fat, but a decent football player";
Fat-Boy (actually "Chiattóne", meaning "very fat boy");
Silly-Ass (actually "Pecoróne", meaning "big sheep"): "hairy, lazy, sleepy, a silly-ass with a large mouth";
Pig-Head (actually "Càpa di bómba", literally "a big head resembling an old World War II bomb", also meaning "pig-headed"): "very big head, disproportionate to his body";
Itchy (actually "Rattamónno", meaning "continuously itchy");
Bulldog (actually "Mastìno", meaning "bulldog, always angry, violent");
Huddly (actually "Aggrugnàto", meaning "huddled up"): "huddled up like a foetus".
Huddly intervenes quickly: "Your Honor, the rival team already posed its first question; now we will turn on the Spectrum and you will all see the answer; then we will have the next move!". Protests and turmoil by the Commodore team. Solomonic decision by the judge: "well, stop it all: I won't consider it as a question, but I will remember about this in the final sentence". Sixtyfourist people have a sigh of relief, they just saw quashed a sensational self-goal.
Itchy turns on his Spectrum and, tuning the TV, gets to a white screen showing a flashing K in the lower right part (maybe he unintentionally pressed the Enter key after turning on). Fat-Boy says: "ha, ha, ha! what's that?". Itchy: "is this a question for the duel?". "No, but please look there, ah, ah!". The judge intervenes again: "stop with commenting, or I will consider it a question!". The commodorist people immediately shut up. Itchy presses some keys to give in some commands, but the judge immediately says: "no, stop it, don't do anything, leave all as before". Itchy presses shift-"1" instantly erasing all the command line, leaving only the flashing K as before.
In the meantime Pig-Head turned on the C-64 and tuned the TV. A weirdly coloured screen appears, something between blue and magenta.
COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2.
64K RAM SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE
READY.
Huddly: "ha, ha, ha! what's that message after the «64K RAM SYSTEM»? did the 64k get reduced to 38k before starting anything?". High screams from Commodore team: "no, nooo! that's the currently available memory for the Basic! Your Honor, judge! they posed their first question, when it was our turn! this isn't right!". Big laughs from sinclairist guys and shouting and yelling by commodorian people.
Nyak-Nyak, after a laborious work to get order and silence again, sentences to the sixtyfourists: "since you were pardoned about your «first» question, and since their keen comment is relevant, then do answer to it; later, you will pose two questions to make up for all".
Huddly, sardonic: "well? where is the remaining memory? did the SYSTEM eat up almost half of the total RAM to the detriment of the Basic?". Pig-Head: "well, the memory is there, yes, it's there, but it's not currently available to the Basic; that's, er, it's still there, but the memory map does not allow we to use it for now... uh, it's there, yes, there is because there ARE 64k of memory! there is even the message there: 64K RAM SYSTEM as you can read for yourself!". "Then, why did it print out 38911?". "Uh, but the memory is there, all memory!". "But if the 64k memory is all there, why are you able to access only 38911 bytes? I still don't understand...".
Shouting and yelling again, mixed with vulgar insults. The judge intervenes again: "stop it, let's see an example. Are you all able to show an example for what you say?". Before everyone does anything, Huddly writes down in a few seconds a two-line Basic program on the Spectrum:
10 DIM a$(41000)
20 PRINT a$
Huddly, implacable: "then, can you do something like this?". Commodorian guys panicked; Pig-Head said: "humpf! I am curious, I just want to see if it works!". Huddly pressed the "R" key ("RUN" appeared on the Spectrum TV screen) and then the Enter key. The screen was cleared, and in the bottom left corner a "scroll?" message appeared.
The judge asked the meaning of that message. Huddly: "I just initialized a string of fortyone thousands characters; now the string contains only blank characters, and then printing it on the screen does not show anything. When the screen is full of characters (even if blank spaces) then the Spectrum asks «scroll?» before continuing". Lower shouts and muttering by Commodore guys. Huddly continues: "if a computer has 48k RAM, then it's easy to write a program that allocates a 41000 characters string..." and, sarcastically, "let's figure out what can do a 64k RAM computer...".
Nyak-Nyak stopped him and, unintentionally sadist, asked to the «64ers»: "well? you have 64k of memory; can you allocate a memory block of at least 42000 characters to show your superiority?". The disdain shouting and the excited attempts to explain something about the Commodore's Kernal memory handling anticipated the taste of their defeat.
Nyak-Nyak continued: "you still have five minutes to show something; do write something... does the C-64 have the DIM Basic command?". Fat-Boy, flying into a fatal fury, starts entering "DIMA$(" and stops terrorized. Silly-Ass continues clickety-clicking:
DIMA$(41000)
?ILLEGAL QUANTITY ERROR
Ha, ha, ha! Fat laughs, hateful laughs from the Sinclair team. That bastard of Huddly insists: "try to shorten a bit that value, let's see when you won't get an error!". Silly-Ass continues, while his colleagues remain petrified while looking at him:
DIMA$(20000)
?OUT OF MEMORY ERROR
"Out of memory"! The most terrible Commodorian people tragedy is only started and these were only the first blows! Silly-Ass moves up the cursor and modifies the 20000 to 15000, and still gets the same ERROR. Phrenetically, moves the cursor up again, but by his impetuosity (or, perhaps, a little C-64 keyboard fault, or even the small size of the Return key, who knows!) after getting to the line before, on that "READY." of above, after he pressed the Return key, he got on the screen a mix of error messages and commands, and that "READY." interpreted as "READ Y.", so that on the Commodore 64 TV screen they all saw:
?ILLEGAL QUANTITY ERROR
READY.
DIMA$(15000)
?OUT OF DATA ERROR
READY.F MEMORY ERROR
READY.
Spectrumists guys rolled on the floor laughing, laughing up to tears! Even the judge and Trench-Morty began laughing, while the sixtyfourists tried to save everything they could lay their hands on. Silly-Ass, laboured breathing and a sweating forehead, got the cursor down and quickly pressed some keys for a few seconds:
NW
?SYNTAX ERROR
READY.
NEW
READY.
10FORN=1TO100:A$=A$+" ":NEXT
20?LEN(A$)
RUN
100
READY.
Trench-Morty whispered to sinclairist people: "huh, why cannot they put some spaces between the program words?". Again, another round of big laughs! (and still, his intentions were honest!). "Ha, ha, ha! they cannot! please, tell him why!" (he only had to explain that the Spectrum was automatically showing blanks between Basic keywords, while in the Commodore machine any manually added blank was memory space consuming, and then any commodorian guy soon got used to avoid any use of them). After some threating against sinclairist people, Silly-Ass moved up the cursor on that "100" but, before changing it to 41000, he understood that it would have required too much time (a noticeable fraction of second was needed to get that 100-blanks string filled), so he rewrote his program announcing "I'm only doing a test":
5B$=" "
10FORN=1TO100:A$=A$+B$:NEXT
RUN
?STRING TOO LONG ERROR IN 10
This time the burst of laughter was heard even on the Moon! "Ha, ha, ha! Illegal quantity, Out of memory, String too long!". The judge, a little awkward in trying to pour oil on the troubled waters, asked: "er... what do those all ERROR messages mean?". A desolate Pig-Head answered: "Well, er... I remember once I read somewhere that normal strings cannot exceed about 255 characters...". Nyak-Nyak: "Ok, stop it. The Spectrum scores one point, with full marks: ten tenths". Sinclair team enthusiastically shouting, Commodore people icy and silent (uh, they will find only many months later that the DIM command in the C-64 has a very different meaning of the Spectrum one when string-related... but even if they had the same meaning, commodorian people still was in trouble because of the «64» Basic limitations about strings, arrays and memory organization).
Nyak-Nyak (actual Neapolitan-slang nickname was "Gnék-Gnèk", pronounced as "nyak-nyak"), meaning something like: "he has problems in pronouncing some consonants";
Trench-Morty (actually was "Bombardìno", meaning "small trench-mortar"): "short and fat, but a decent football player";
Fat-Boy (actually "Chiattóne", meaning "very fat boy");
Silly-Ass (actually "Pecoróne", meaning "big sheep"): "hairy, lazy, sleepy, a silly-ass with a large mouth";
Pig-Head (actually "Càpa di bómba", literally "a big head resembling an old World War II bomb", also meaning "pig-headed"): "very big head, disproportionate to his body";
Itchy (actually "Rattamónno", meaning "continuously itchy");
Bulldog (actually "Mastìno", meaning "bulldog, always angry, violent");
Huddly (actually "Aggrugnàto", meaning "huddled up"): "huddled up like a foetus".
Huddly intervenes quickly: "Your Honor, the rival team already posed its first question; now we will turn on the Spectrum and you will all see the answer; then we will have the next move!". Protests and turmoil by the Commodore team. Solomonic decision by the judge: "well, stop it all: I won't consider it as a question, but I will remember about this in the final sentence". Sixtyfourist people have a sigh of relief, they just saw quashed a sensational self-goal.
Itchy turns on his Spectrum and, tuning the TV, gets to a white screen showing a flashing K in the lower right part (maybe he unintentionally pressed the Enter key after turning on). Fat-Boy says: "ha, ha, ha! what's that?". Itchy: "is this a question for the duel?". "No, but please look there, ah, ah!". The judge intervenes again: "stop with commenting, or I will consider it a question!". The commodorist people immediately shut up. Itchy presses some keys to give in some commands, but the judge immediately says: "no, stop it, don't do anything, leave all as before". Itchy presses shift-"1" instantly erasing all the command line, leaving only the flashing K as before.
In the meantime Pig-Head turned on the C-64 and tuned the TV. A weirdly coloured screen appears, something between blue and magenta.
COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2.
64K RAM SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE
READY.
Huddly: "ha, ha, ha! what's that message after the «64K RAM SYSTEM»? did the 64k get reduced to 38k before starting anything?". High screams from Commodore team: "no, nooo! that's the currently available memory for the Basic! Your Honor, judge! they posed their first question, when it was our turn! this isn't right!". Big laughs from sinclairist guys and shouting and yelling by commodorian people.
Nyak-Nyak, after a laborious work to get order and silence again, sentences to the sixtyfourists: "since you were pardoned about your «first» question, and since their keen comment is relevant, then do answer to it; later, you will pose two questions to make up for all".
Huddly, sardonic: "well? where is the remaining memory? did the SYSTEM eat up almost half of the total RAM to the detriment of the Basic?". Pig-Head: "well, the memory is there, yes, it's there, but it's not currently available to the Basic; that's, er, it's still there, but the memory map does not allow we to use it for now... uh, it's there, yes, there is because there ARE 64k of memory! there is even the message there: 64K RAM SYSTEM as you can read for yourself!". "Then, why did it print out 38911?". "Uh, but the memory is there, all memory!". "But if the 64k memory is all there, why are you able to access only 38911 bytes? I still don't understand...".
Shouting and yelling again, mixed with vulgar insults. The judge intervenes again: "stop it, let's see an example. Are you all able to show an example for what you say?". Before everyone does anything, Huddly writes down in a few seconds a two-line Basic program on the Spectrum:
10 DIM a$(41000)
20 PRINT a$
Huddly, implacable: "then, can you do something like this?". Commodorian guys panicked; Pig-Head said: "humpf! I am curious, I just want to see if it works!". Huddly pressed the "R" key ("RUN" appeared on the Spectrum TV screen) and then the Enter key. The screen was cleared, and in the bottom left corner a "scroll?" message appeared.
The judge asked the meaning of that message. Huddly: "I just initialized a string of fortyone thousands characters; now the string contains only blank characters, and then printing it on the screen does not show anything. When the screen is full of characters (even if blank spaces) then the Spectrum asks «scroll?» before continuing". Lower shouts and muttering by Commodore guys. Huddly continues: "if a computer has 48k RAM, then it's easy to write a program that allocates a 41000 characters string..." and, sarcastically, "let's figure out what can do a 64k RAM computer...".
Nyak-Nyak stopped him and, unintentionally sadist, asked to the «64ers»: "well? you have 64k of memory; can you allocate a memory block of at least 42000 characters to show your superiority?". The disdain shouting and the excited attempts to explain something about the Commodore's Kernal memory handling anticipated the taste of their defeat.
Nyak-Nyak continued: "you still have five minutes to show something; do write something... does the C-64 have the DIM Basic command?". Fat-Boy, flying into a fatal fury, starts entering "DIMA$(" and stops terrorized. Silly-Ass continues clickety-clicking:
DIMA$(41000)
?ILLEGAL QUANTITY ERROR
Ha, ha, ha! Fat laughs, hateful laughs from the Sinclair team. That bastard of Huddly insists: "try to shorten a bit that value, let's see when you won't get an error!". Silly-Ass continues, while his colleagues remain petrified while looking at him:
DIMA$(20000)
?OUT OF MEMORY ERROR
"Out of memory"! The most terrible Commodorian people tragedy is only started and these were only the first blows! Silly-Ass moves up the cursor and modifies the 20000 to 15000, and still gets the same ERROR. Phrenetically, moves the cursor up again, but by his impetuosity (or, perhaps, a little C-64 keyboard fault, or even the small size of the Return key, who knows!) after getting to the line before, on that "READY." of above, after he pressed the Return key, he got on the screen a mix of error messages and commands, and that "READY." interpreted as "READ Y.", so that on the Commodore 64 TV screen they all saw:
?ILLEGAL QUANTITY ERROR
READY.
DIMA$(15000)
?OUT OF DATA ERROR
READY.F MEMORY ERROR
READY.
Spectrumists guys rolled on the floor laughing, laughing up to tears! Even the judge and Trench-Morty began laughing, while the sixtyfourists tried to save everything they could lay their hands on. Silly-Ass, laboured breathing and a sweating forehead, got the cursor down and quickly pressed some keys for a few seconds:
NW
?SYNTAX ERROR
READY.
NEW
READY.
10FORN=1TO100:A$=A$+" ":NEXT
20?LEN(A$)
RUN
100
READY.
Trench-Morty whispered to sinclairist people: "huh, why cannot they put some spaces between the program words?". Again, another round of big laughs! (and still, his intentions were honest!). "Ha, ha, ha! they cannot! please, tell him why!" (he only had to explain that the Spectrum was automatically showing blanks between Basic keywords, while in the Commodore machine any manually added blank was memory space consuming, and then any commodorian guy soon got used to avoid any use of them). After some threating against sinclairist people, Silly-Ass moved up the cursor on that "100" but, before changing it to 41000, he understood that it would have required too much time (a noticeable fraction of second was needed to get that 100-blanks string filled), so he rewrote his program announcing "I'm only doing a test":
5B$=" "
10FORN=1TO100:A$=A$+B$:NEXT
RUN
?STRING TOO LONG ERROR IN 10
This time the burst of laughter was heard even on the Moon! "Ha, ha, ha! Illegal quantity, Out of memory, String too long!". The judge, a little awkward in trying to pour oil on the troubled waters, asked: "er... what do those all ERROR messages mean?". A desolate Pig-Head answered: "Well, er... I remember once I read somewhere that normal strings cannot exceed about 255 characters...". Nyak-Nyak: "Ok, stop it. The Spectrum scores one point, with full marks: ten tenths". Sinclair team enthusiastically shouting, Commodore people icy and silent (uh, they will find only many months later that the DIM command in the C-64 has a very different meaning of the Spectrum one when string-related... but even if they had the same meaning, commodorian people still was in trouble because of the «64» Basic limitations about strings, arrays and memory organization).
Can someone wake me up when we get to the "Atmel ATmega88 microcontroller is not an oldschool platform" argument please?
Atmel ATmega88 microcontroller is not an oldschool platform, but it's more of a hard hack kind of thing, which is on par with the oldschool way of things.
Will that do?
Will that do?
which brings us to the question.. is the atmel atmega88 microcontroller an oldskool platform?
Well, since the ATmega88 was developed around 2003/2004 it's clearly not an 'oldskool platform'. It has been around for a bit more than 5 years, which makes it just as "old skool" as a Nokia 3310.
I say that it should be disqualified!
I say that it should be disqualified!
guys don't bother, let's simply stick to this easy dichotomy of demo plaftorms :
1) wintel
2) the rest
1) wintel
2) the rest
guys don't bother, let's simply stick to this easy dichotomy of demo plaftorms :
1) counterculture fight the power AMIGA
2) the rest
1) counterculture fight the power AMIGA
2) the rest
hyde: Im gonna sit next to you under the show!
BUS size!
Hyde: well you do have great direction but I don't know.. I think field trip rules
i wonder how much money and/or cocaine the nordic conspiracy received from atmel for allowing ATmega88 in the oldskool category!
@havoc: you forgot the bitches! :)
please forgive me, atmel inc. :-)
Weren't Scene.org Awards supposed to be the equivalent of Academy Awards on the demoscene? That is, bad jokes that are taken too seriously by some people.
