pouët.net

Yeah the bouquet page is down again.

we have also launched a temporary website at www.scenemusic.pl (thanks, Arab) where we will post any new info that comes up.

its so sad to here this thing about nectarine...was always my favourite listening favourite :(

anyway, hopefully really it can brought back in anyform, good luck :)

I'm all for bringing Nectarine back but can we please drop the "scenemusic" addresses? Very sad to see the site gone but now's a good chance to start fresh. I remember reading the only reason why "scenemusic.net" was originally chosen was because all the sensible nectarine.* alternatives were taken at the time.

Raina: like I said, it's just a temporary address so we have a place where we can communicate info. I'm definitely not going to worry about "the right name" when the whole rest is completely in the dark. :)

other option is to just redo the whole thing (under a different name etc). will cost some effort, but immediately provides for openings for changes/improvements and random other cool ideas. you can always import the nectarine backup at some stage, if that's possible / wanted.

Axel: of course, I understand. It's not a priority right now but that domain just reminded me of the thing that has bugged me over the years.

raina: all addresses are forwarding to nectarine.fr anyway.

and dropping addresses sounds a bad idea to me.

raina: I completely agree with you. :)

Yep, they'll be picked up by squaters instantly in the hope of being sold back at a fortune or otherwise genereating income through lame ads. That thing seems to be a whole industry.

I don't mind a ton of redirects as long as there's one official URL that's advertised, hopefully one that has the site's name in it. A domain name today is something accurate, hopefully unique, memorable, good, simple, effective, all of the above. And "scenemusic" is too generic and vague, not a good name for website and not a good domain name in that sense. (And I think I've even seen a logo or two that said "Scenemusic" instead of "Nectarine". :P) Let the "scenemusics" remain as redirects or let them go and rot, it shouldn't make much difference in the end. A demoscener looking for that 80s bedroom-produced italo or 4k synthpop fix is smart enough to spot those vulture sites miles away. :)

Just my 0,02€. Sorry for distracting attention from more important issues.

demovibes (the radiostation)

temporary stream set up by Arab: http://www.scenemusic.pl:8000/necta

thanx Arab for the stream ! Thanx Axel for the link !

it's a good minimum : :D

Maf - Sync on stream :D

demoscene.fm

" firefox ne peut trouver le serveur à l'adresse demoscene.fm " >:(

Just thinking... No offence to what used to be Nectarine, but what about a minimal Nectarine now? I mean, just a simple stream, a single page with a link to launch the thing and that's it. IDs would be sent to Winamp/... so we have the song title currently on air.

The MP3 database is probably large enough to cover the entire demoscene creation and maybe there's still a way to sort everything so there would be playlists by genre, popularity, platform, parties... done once and for all that would play randomly both in their own content and by a cross between playlists.

All we need now is maybe a radio. Just a streaming radio. Yes and his teammates' project was amazing but now that it's lost, it's maybe preferable to keep a steady, simple and accurate site that will require minimal administration where updating music and playlists would be the biggest deal of it all without having to struggle against bugs, security issues, fancy features...

Therein it would perhaps make backups easier... I'm lucid that he would change the whole Nectarine community habits, not to say there won't be any community anymore but at least Nectarine won't be a ground-zero for an indefinite amount of time not to say forever. I'm far too busy to help with that and there is plenty of willing hands already so consider it's my fish hook and nevermind if I catch nothing :)

All those hours of work can't just be thrown in the toilets like that. I can't believe it...

oxb: don't forget that nectarine was kinda fulfilling what pouet is missing : music compos released at parties.

Well, what I especially liked about Nectarine was the option to request music into the stream for a certain amount of time. That allowed you to DJ on nectarine featuring your favourite tracks mixed together for others to enjoy/discover. So it not only was a database of music, it allowed the users to express themselfs artistically by mixing music into the stream. I hope NectaReloaded will feature this also.

What i loved in Nectarine:
song requests
song info (author, where it's from, dl link, comment; i discovered many demos with that!!)
oneliner (so we can tell someone to stop requesting 20-mins songs for a change ^^)

but until a system like that is rebuilt, a simple stream will suffice... as long as it streams on port 80 (work sucks)

If someone find how to stream directly module (without converting to mp3) perhaps I can made a chiptune.com radio :)

Just to point out the obvious:

untergrund.net would be happy to host nectarine in case someone manages to recover the data.

(You know, in a real datacenter where servers don't go down, explode, get deleted, admins have keys, connectivity doesn't get lost during breakpoint etc pp ;)

kb: ssshh ;)