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Where are the high end demos?

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Are scene members too poor to get the gear? WTF is going on????
added on the 2003-03-04 21:34:34 by 33 33
What do you mean? Cray supercomputers or something?
added on the 2003-03-04 22:49:14 by sprocket sprocket
There's already a section for AGA Amigas. What more do you want??
Haven't you been reading the threads here? People whine too much when you write a demo that requires high(ish) end HW. They're all too busy coding for TNT2s using DirectX 5.
added on the 2003-03-04 23:56:28 by legalize legalize
33: I am too poor.
added on the 2003-03-05 00:08:01 by violator violator
legalize: well, that's "fallback coding" for you.
added on the 2003-03-05 00:45:37 by sagacity sagacity
what is directx?
added on the 2003-03-05 00:50:40 by 216 216
who is _216_?
added on the 2003-03-05 01:05:44 by jenni jenni
why hasn't anyone leveled finland to the ground yet?
more nukes plz!!!
added on the 2003-03-05 01:26:30 by lug00ber lug00ber
go finland! you will save the scene!
added on the 2003-03-05 01:28:31 by preglow preglow
Some (or maybe even most) of the sceners are still students (counting me), living at 1,5e/day budget, that means that I would have to live 134 days without food, toilet paper or anything else to have money for a 200e GF4. (Altho' I already got one from old savings. yay!)
added on the 2003-03-05 07:06:21 by zeroic zeroic
1.5euro/day budget in finland... hmmm... surfing from the homeless shelter i suppose?
added on the 2003-03-05 07:41:02 by havoc havoc
Amiga 500 should be enough for anyone.
added on the 2003-03-05 07:56:49 by sprocket sprocket
havoc: unfortunately that's true. after rent, internet connection and regular trips to demoparties, alko and the nearest bar you won't have too much money left :/
added on the 2003-03-05 08:26:42 by raymon raymon
Maybe nVidia and ATi should give freebies to sceners :)
*GUS flashbacks*
added on the 2003-03-05 09:00:54 by Scali Scali
and people who work (in anything else than games or similar) don't have time for games and hence don't need the latest whizz graphic card.

(most democoders wouldn't justify buying a $600 audio card either, i guess)

so there.
added on the 2003-03-05 10:25:04 by _-_-__ _-_-__
to get this straight, i'm not meaning game coders have any sort of time for gaming, but they have alternative reasons to access high end 3d equipment
added on the 2003-03-05 10:26:03 by _-_-__ _-_-__
Now, this thread sucks a lot.
Can't you imagine yourself why no-one is coding anything for the newest multimedia hardware in stores?
And anyway, why don't you buy yourself some fat-mama-boy-hypermedia-guagestrige-4d-multivirtual videocard and show us something, coded by you of course, which exploits its features?
Maybe we will buy it, if your marketing skills are good enough...
added on the 2003-03-05 10:35:46 by dixan dixan
why whine when you can be one of the few(?) coding high end demos? what happened to do it yourself? godamn.. let ppl do what they want.. if you do code high end demos perhaps I can watch them at a friends house or at the local computerstore...
added on the 2003-03-05 11:02:00 by violator violator
whenever people make demos compliant to you guys definition of "high end" it's always BLABLABLA I CAN'T WATCH IT BLABLA OOH BLABLA. besides that, most of these "high end" demos are rather LOW END considering the hardware they're made on. a real high end demo is something that gets extrordinary results from 'regular' hardware ;)
added on the 2003-03-05 11:38:13 by superplek superplek
superplek : 1 point!
Don't get me wrong! Finland has the most insane people I know in the scene and that's why I would love to visit it! ;P

http://www.co.jyu.fi/~np/misc/foreigners_guide_to_finland.html
added on the 2003-03-05 12:23:24 by Optimus Optimus
Btw,. you asked the wrong question. What does it mean high end demos? Wanting the eyes of virgin Maria (as we say in Greece ;)))? I mean, a Pentium4 and 512MB Ram and GeForce4Ti??? Heh..
Another regular question other people are doing, is why the hell are there no PC demos that reach the hardware to the limits! Like,.. if a PC coder did the same optimized code that a C64 coder is doing, we would see Heaven7 running well in a 486 for example (Just a silly unrealistic example to get a point). But anyways,. that's another thread for another flame ;P
But asking why people don't code for extreme high end PCs? Our PCs are already too powerfull and we gotta kick the ass out of them!!!
added on the 2003-03-05 12:29:29 by Optimus Optimus
In response to the critisism:

Remember the times of these demos. Here is my list of TOP 10 "high end demos of their time":

- 303 (1997)
- Dope (1995)
- Tribes (1997)
- The Fulcrum (1998)
- Sunflower (1997)
- Genocyd (1997)
- State of Mind (1998)
- Robotnik (1997)
- Rubicon 2 (1999)
- Toasted (1996)

Remember those? I can't seem to think of any recent demo matching the image impact vs. cpu usage of those demos compared to the more recent demos. All those old demos don't use 3D acceleraters, also. I mean... Do any demo coder know how to use shaders? :P I mean WTF???
added on the 2003-03-05 14:07:30 by 33 33
Oh, so if you use shaders your demo will instantly be high-end and much better than demos not requiring them. Makes sense.
added on the 2003-03-05 14:11:31 by sagacity sagacity

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