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Good bye: untergrund.net will be shutting down on December 15th

category: general [glöplog]
But: volunteers welcome. Not saying it is impossible, just not easy.
added on the 2024-10-16 18:49:43 by scamp scamp
Scamp, first of all many thanks for providing free hosting for the demoscene for the past 25 years.

I still have my old site on untergrund.net which admittedly I haven't updated for a while (but that's not to say I will never do it) but there are many more important websites hosted there so I hope a solution can be found.

I wouldn't really like the demoscene to be mostly retreating to Discord and a handful of Facebook groups.
added on the 2024-10-16 20:11:00 by exocet exocet
With a 25 years old kernel PCem might be an option, it can run Windows XP but it's an emulator and might be too slow apart from other issues since it was definitely not made for web hosting ;)
added on the 2024-10-16 20:21:22 by Kabuto Kabuto
Let's be honest. A change of operator/server owner makes the most sense.

Is this possible scamp?

Especially when it comes to Chiptune.com and the Amiga Demo Archive,C64 Diskmag Wiki and many more it would be a shame if they disappeared.

I think if this shutdown is food for thought for anyone, the message has gotten through.
added on the 2024-10-16 20:24:36 by _docd _docd
docd: please read THIS (not the other) threads in full.

None of this has to do with emotions, and none with who hosts this in future, it's a technical challenge someone needs to work on.

I know you always have very good intentions and are trying to de-escalate. but there is no de-escalation needed here, people writing scripts and managing the transition are needed.

truck is right now trying to find such people. Those who want to volunteer on the tech work contact truck, all others including myself: stand by.
added on the 2024-10-16 20:32:50 by scamp scamp
ok cool
added on the 2024-10-16 20:34:53 by _docd _docd
to scamp:

actually, personally I'm more concerned about releases that are hosted on Untergrund.net. For example, many release links on Pouet.net lead to Untergrund.net. Maybe at least access to these files via HTTP can be preserved?
added on the 2024-10-16 22:29:39 by bitl bitl
bitl: There are only 127 untergrund.net links from Pouët prods that I have not already been able to archive as part of my nightly pouet-mirror.sesse.net runs; the other 8994 are fine, plus a bunch of links that no longer are referenced. (Some of those are 404, most are 403; I don't know exactly what happened.)
added on the 2024-10-16 22:52:22 by Sesse Sesse
bitl: See previous page of this thread for an explanation. The FTP can not be moved as long as the "main" site is up, as it's mounted over there and shares user permissions.

As soon as the "main site problem is next to impossible to transplant" is solved in one way or another, it can live on read-only, be moved to someone else hosting it (keeping the links intact) or serving redirects to some other server without links breaking.

I have my own stuff on there, and my own links to it ;)

But the more backups, the better, of course.
added on the 2024-10-16 22:56:03 by scamp scamp

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