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Very cool!
rulez added on the 2024-01-21 21:27:25 by bodo^rab 
Any inhumane and gruesome act deserves unequivocal condemnation, and it is imperative that such atrocities be brought into the spotlight to reveal the truth, fostering accountability and justice for the victims.
And not to forget very good in your face demo, style I very much like.
strong
Desire Roolez.
respect.
design&message well done
design&message well done
Yes
This moved me. This must be art.
Extremely well made demo. Music, effects and design support each other to convey the message.
The 20.000+ crosses-effect ran shivers down my spine.
A fucking shock.
❤
sadly another low-point for humanity. this is not how civilized people should solve their conflicts. and that goes for both sides.
not so "fun fact": according to Brown university's "cost of war" study, this century's "war on terror" alone caused 38 million people to be displaced, ~1 million dead, ~4.5 million dead "indirectly" (due to famine, destroyed infrastructure). gotta give it to Blinken: He acknowledges this and urged to "not repeat our mistakes". And yet again, hardly anyone listens because the media usually leaves out the uncomfortable truths and tries to frame this as a simple "good vs evil" scenario (some journalists who did not fell in line recently lost their jobs, btw).
which brings me to the one critique I have about this demo: it also is a one-sided view and a long and complex conflict like this cannot be properly addressed in this format. unless you invest _a lot_ of time and portray both sides of the story.
but yes, what's going on right now is an atrocity and two wrongs will never make a right.
thumbs up for raising awareness and the texture mapped(?) chains were quite impressive for an OCS demo.
not so "fun fact": according to Brown university's "cost of war" study, this century's "war on terror" alone caused 38 million people to be displaced, ~1 million dead, ~4.5 million dead "indirectly" (due to famine, destroyed infrastructure). gotta give it to Blinken: He acknowledges this and urged to "not repeat our mistakes". And yet again, hardly anyone listens because the media usually leaves out the uncomfortable truths and tries to frame this as a simple "good vs evil" scenario (some journalists who did not fell in line recently lost their jobs, btw).
which brings me to the one critique I have about this demo: it also is a one-sided view and a long and complex conflict like this cannot be properly addressed in this format. unless you invest _a lot_ of time and portray both sides of the story.
but yes, what's going on right now is an atrocity and two wrongs will never make a right.
thumbs up for raising awareness and the texture mapped(?) chains were quite impressive for an OCS demo.
congrats, great demo!
hypocrisy is real!
invading other countries is bad! (except if your hero putin does it)
implying the use of nukes is bad! (except if your hero putin does it)
demo is okay but political so my thumb is also
invading other countries is bad! (except if your hero putin does it)
implying the use of nukes is bad! (except if your hero putin does it)
demo is okay but political so my thumb is also
positive message, well executed demo
Do the authors of this prod understand the cause of the tragedy? Who started it? Why are there no images of Israeli civilians killed in the Hamas attack on October 7, 2023? When Palestinian militants killed more than a thousand Israelis, as well as tourists from other countries.
I have the impression that some people missed this point.
I have the impression that some people missed this point.
Strong stuff
Dont like political stuff in demos especially when things are hidden.
Desire, you got titanium bollocks :)
25000 dead innocent people is not enough I guess ? Nauseating.
Also, nice Amiga demo.
25000 dead innocent people is not enough I guess ? Nauseating.
Also, nice Amiga demo.
Respect for this demo.
Very stylish!
quite different, well done!
Technically good, and it's always welcome to make a demo about something - outrage, politics, taking sides included. Bring it on! While it succeeds in dodging outright kitsch and infantility, artistically this feels restrained (ugly conversions of ugly shouting faces FTW?) and might not stand the test of time too well, even though the topic will likely get constant revisits in the centuries to come.
Very well made both visually and auditorily. That soundtrack really supports the message! I too did get the shivers. A bit surprised it didn't win!
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Juding from a demo point of view I find it very well executed with awesome soundtrack. The chain effect needs a closer look, very cool.
Message wise, I can't help but relate the demo to Avenas classic from 1994.
Message wise, I can't help but relate the demo to Avenas classic from 1994.
Extremely nice produced! :)
OK.
very nice!
Nice demo, cool tune!
I approve this message.
Technical side++
The thumb is just for the craft behind the demo. There seems to be a bunch of old powerful men in this area who prefers to have these people fighting eachother in perpetuity.
Once again, platon42 delivers a great demo technically. Politically, this can apply to a lot of conflicts since the very beginning of humanhood. On this point I think kadesh is more optimistic.
Respect
Great
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I have the impression that some people missed this point.
That would be the noble and generous assumption to make; sadly, I'm afraid it gives 'some people' too much credit.
serious topic
Imagine there's no heaven…
An Amiga demo about the War in Gaza
Makikg a political demo is a bit like the paradox of writing poetry: What's deliberately left out is often more impactful than what you put into it.
Once again, I find myself unable to get on board with "the demo as a medium of political messaging". For me, this is because once a demo moves thematically in that kind of direction, it is no longer "just" an act of self expression but instead begins to perform some sort of social and political action. That's OK in theory, but given the magnitude of the issues tackled here I'm left wondering what the intended "action" was in the first place.
Piggie for the chain effect.
Piggie for the chain effect.
I am not an intellectual nor I am a historian and on top that I have
difficulties to express my thoughts but despite all of those
shortcomings I would like to leave a comment:
One must not forget what preceded and led to the current outrage.
Atrocity, hatred, and innocent victims can be found on both sides. I
reckon the majority is sick of this everlasting conflict but a minority
of radicals and fundamentalists seems to be sufficient to fuel and
keep the vicious circle going. The parties have to recognize that the
"opponent(s)" will not disappear and - easier said than done - the
past and hatchet has to be buried and a compromise must be found
(the whole thing is awry and conflict-laden right from the
beginning). But i) as long as the Palestinians are not respected and
no agreement on an own state will be found (there have been
negotiations and offers over the last decades but all of them were
turned down by the Palestinian leadership if I am not mistaken) and
ii) as long as the terroristic attacks on Israel will continue and the
eradication of Israel is on the agenda of certain groups, I really do
not see a change for the better.
Thoughts of a back-seat driver. Thanks for your attention. Amen.
difficulties to express my thoughts but despite all of those
shortcomings I would like to leave a comment:
One must not forget what preceded and led to the current outrage.
Atrocity, hatred, and innocent victims can be found on both sides. I
reckon the majority is sick of this everlasting conflict but a minority
of radicals and fundamentalists seems to be sufficient to fuel and
keep the vicious circle going. The parties have to recognize that the
"opponent(s)" will not disappear and - easier said than done - the
past and hatchet has to be buried and a compromise must be found
(the whole thing is awry and conflict-laden right from the
beginning). But i) as long as the Palestinians are not respected and
no agreement on an own state will be found (there have been
negotiations and offers over the last decades but all of them were
turned down by the Palestinian leadership if I am not mistaken) and
ii) as long as the terroristic attacks on Israel will continue and the
eradication of Israel is on the agenda of certain groups, I really do
not see a change for the better.
Thoughts of a back-seat driver. Thanks for your attention. Amen.
It's not about a conflict in the past, it's about state-level institutionalized killing in the present. This has been worked out clearly and carefully. The problem here is that it's too demoish to function as a propaganda leaflet, and too specific to function as a demo. They cancel out each other. It demonstrates however how difficult it is to approach the topic with this format. You made me watch it four or five times already, take my thumb for it.
Big respect for doing this
great demo with an important message!
It is absolutely correct to place more scrutiny on the atrocities of "one side" of a "both sides" conflict when there is an immense power disparity between those sides.
@bifat
Thanks for pointing this out. I know. And you are right, most of my
thoughts were not strictly demo-related and rather a (superficial)
pondering about the conflict in general. But what I wanted to say
and is important to me was:
And with that I mean what happened on 7 October 2023. These
victims should not be forgotten.
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It's not about a conflict in the past
Thanks for pointing this out. I know. And you are right, most of my
thoughts were not strictly demo-related and rather a (superficial)
pondering about the conflict in general. But what I wanted to say
and is important to me was:
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One must not forget what preceded and led to the current outrage.
And with that I mean what happened on 7 October 2023. These
victims should not be forgotten.
Of course they shouldn't be forgotten. The fuckup runs very deep, 60, 80, 100 years?
But why would you want to address that in your work, to water it down, to barter for complaints of "whataboutism" or some other under-complex distraction rhetoric? I think for a piece of propaganda it's much more effective to address one specific point and put your finger on where it really hurts, repeatedly.
But why would you want to address that in your work, to water it down, to barter for complaints of "whataboutism" or some other under-complex distraction rhetoric? I think for a piece of propaganda it's much more effective to address one specific point and put your finger on where it really hurts, repeatedly.
I'm going to resort to an overused cliche here, but make a demo about it. If you think the victims of Hamas aren't being given due respect by the demoscene, make a demo about it. I might even thumb it up, as long as it doesn't imply there is an equivalence between an atrocity carried out by a radical terrorist fringe and an ongoing campaign of atrocities carried out by a legitimized government with nearly unwavering support from the West.
And because I know someone is going to hang on to that word "West" there, I'm not picking sides. The East has their own sins. The Uyghur genocide. Ukraine. We've had demos about Ukraine, as we should have. Now we have a demo about Palestine.
And because I know someone is going to hang on to that word "West" there, I'm not picking sides. The East has their own sins. The Uyghur genocide. Ukraine. We've had demos about Ukraine, as we should have. Now we have a demo about Palestine.
There's a difference for me between something that is a piece of self-expression about a topic (message: "I feel like this about X") and something that is constructed to convey information to or influence the audience (message: "you should feel like this about X"). This prod aligns closer to the second imo. This isn't a problem in itself - in cases where there is a clear relationship between the topic, the maker and the audience, a demo that does this can be really effective (e.g. https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=91793). But if those relationships are less clear I find it troubling somehow, and imo demos/art/music/etc that do this risk trivialising incredibly important issues for unclear ends.
In this case, there are enough indications that the author's "take" on the topic could be quite superficial. For instance, use of crucifixes/crosses to represent murdered civilians in the Muslim world is at best grimly ironic, and at worst flat out offensive, depending on your personal level of sensitivity ;).
In this case, there are enough indications that the author's "take" on the topic could be quite superficial. For instance, use of crucifixes/crosses to represent murdered civilians in the Muslim world is at best grimly ironic, and at worst flat out offensive, depending on your personal level of sensitivity ;).
I will make a one-time exception regarding not engaging anymore on pouet.
My relationship is that I would like to think of myself of a humanist, a pacifist, and as my nick might suggest, I have been pondering about and studied philosophical questions more than half of my life. My bias is towards the weak, and I detest the rule of the (physically) stronger ("might is right") because it contradicts equality (within a society and law).
So no, this is not a demo that would show "the other side" of the conflict. This is about civilians being murdered. There is absolutely no need to know the precursor to killing people (esp. children), because at least for me, there is no such thing as "just war" and it can NEVER be justified.
Let me tell you that I have thought long time about this, but then sticked with the crosses, which are not a religious symbol for me in this case. It's merely a symbol of death. I could not have picked a symbol at that resolution that would have been understood likewise. The main audience is "the West" and the people are familiar with this cross symbol and its meaning. The audience are NOT Muslims whom I suppose already know exactly what is happening in Gaza and Westbank and not just since October 7th.
I find it a bit underwhelming that you pretend to know if muslims would be offended or not about this depiction of crosses. Maybe that's one of their lesser problems? Let them decide for themselves.
Find out if you are mistaken (or not) by researching this a little. The history of this conflict is long and heartbreaking and I cannot transfer this experience. There are plenty of resources out there (maybe try Scott Ritter or Chris Hedges).
The best chance for peace came to a sudden end when Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by his own people. Since then, ultranationalists have seized power and abandoned the two-states-idea.
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But if those relationships are less clear I find it troubling somehow, and imo demos/art/music/etc that do this risk trivialising incredibly important issues for unclear ends.
My relationship is that I would like to think of myself of a humanist, a pacifist, and as my nick might suggest, I have been pondering about and studied philosophical questions more than half of my life. My bias is towards the weak, and I detest the rule of the (physically) stronger ("might is right") because it contradicts equality (within a society and law).
So no, this is not a demo that would show "the other side" of the conflict. This is about civilians being murdered. There is absolutely no need to know the precursor to killing people (esp. children), because at least for me, there is no such thing as "just war" and it can NEVER be justified.
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In this case, there are enough indications that the author's "take" on the topic could be quite superficial. For instance, use of crucifixes/crosses to represent murdered civilians in the Muslim world is at best grimly ironic, and at worst flat out offensive, depending on your personal level of sensitivity ;).
Let me tell you that I have thought long time about this, but then sticked with the crosses, which are not a religious symbol for me in this case. It's merely a symbol of death. I could not have picked a symbol at that resolution that would have been understood likewise. The main audience is "the West" and the people are familiar with this cross symbol and its meaning. The audience are NOT Muslims whom I suppose already know exactly what is happening in Gaza and Westbank and not just since October 7th.
I find it a bit underwhelming that you pretend to know if muslims would be offended or not about this depiction of crosses. Maybe that's one of their lesser problems? Let them decide for themselves.
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as long as the Palestinians are not respected and
no agreement on an own state will be found (there have been
negotiations and offers over the last decades but all of them were
turned down by the Palestinian leadership if I am not mistaken)
Find out if you are mistaken (or not) by researching this a little. The history of this conflict is long and heartbreaking and I cannot transfer this experience. There are plenty of resources out there (maybe try Scott Ritter or Chris Hedges).
The best chance for peace came to a sudden end when Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by his own people. Since then, ultranationalists have seized power and abandoned the two-states-idea.
Damn nice, with an important message as well.
Good demo job with a strong message.
Thank you (well, even not a proper expression in such a context) Platon42 for this production and for being one of few who dare(s/d). I hope more ppl would/will soon wake up.
The only issue with such prods I see is that there were and still are many conflicts that ended with a shroud of silence on it and "ok, ok, ok, let's look forward not back"...
Artistically-wise I love(ehem...) the comic book(ehem) design with very well crafted message within great(ehem) pixels, notes and asm-code.
I understand(?) karma, maya, material learning experiences but I do hope ppl will wake up. We can not continue like that anymore. Even if it is a dream.
Love, peace and... karma (positive one, positive one).
The only issue with such prods I see is that there were and still are many conflicts that ended with a shroud of silence on it and "ok, ok, ok, let's look forward not back"...
Artistically-wise I love(ehem...) the comic book(ehem) design with very well crafted message within great(ehem) pixels, notes and asm-code.
I understand(?) karma, maya, material learning experiences but I do hope ppl will wake up. We can not continue like that anymore. Even if it is a dream.
Love, peace and... karma (positive one, positive one).
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There are plenty of resources out there (maybe try Scott Ritter or Chris Hedges).
Omg... You advise listening to these disgusting liars, manipulators and propagandists who support putin with his war against Ukraine... Now it’s clear where you got the mess in your head.
I guess I'll still give this release a thumbs down.
@jobe 2024-01-25 15:55:16
I am not a Platon, i.e., I do not have the knowledge and talent to
create such technically well-made demos. But even if I had the skills
I would be reluctant to deal with political / historical topics in a demo
since I (personally) would always be afraid of that I might have
missed, misunderstood or left out an important and crucial point -
regardless of how much I read up. Call me a coward :-)
I thought about it and somewhow I don't feel comfortable. To me it
sounds a bit like it is more tolerable and less bad if atrocities are
committed by terrorists. I would prefer to say if a state is commiting
those crimes then the state is not any better than the terrorists.
@bifat 2024-01-25 15:39:06
I understand what you mean. But still I (personally) have problems
and do not want to separate the one from the other (see also bsp's
comment, 2024-01-22 00:08:43). My (imaginery) demo would have
had a split screen showing the murdering, killing, and suffering of
both sides. But with that, I guess, the statement would be a slightly
other one than in "is real".
@Platon 2024-01-25 20:22:26
I fully agree with that.
Final words:
It was very interesting and informative to read through the
comments and to discuss with you. Made me thinking. Peace.
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...make a demo about it...
I am not a Platon, i.e., I do not have the knowledge and talent to
create such technically well-made demos. But even if I had the skills
I would be reluctant to deal with political / historical topics in a demo
since I (personally) would always be afraid of that I might have
missed, misunderstood or left out an important and crucial point -
regardless of how much I read up. Call me a coward :-)
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...as long as it doesn't imply there is an equivalence between an atrocity...
I thought about it and somewhow I don't feel comfortable. To me it
sounds a bit like it is more tolerable and less bad if atrocities are
committed by terrorists. I would prefer to say if a state is commiting
those crimes then the state is not any better than the terrorists.
@bifat 2024-01-25 15:39:06
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...to water it down...
I understand what you mean. But still I (personally) have problems
and do not want to separate the one from the other (see also bsp's
comment, 2024-01-22 00:08:43). My (imaginery) demo would have
had a split screen showing the murdering, killing, and suffering of
both sides. But with that, I guess, the statement would be a slightly
other one than in "is real".
@Platon 2024-01-25 20:22:26
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The best chance for peace came to a sudden end when Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated...
I fully agree with that.
Final words:
It was very interesting and informative to read through the
comments and to discuss with you. Made me thinking. Peace.
I am having a hard time knowing what to say about this prod. But it is hard not to agree with the message, and obviously the technical/artistical side is great, too, so what else can it be.
Hard to be a pacifist when the other side wants you dead.
Overall message is, obviously, nice and right. However, the author is, obviously, strongly biased. "Is Real" is just a stupid anagram. I was not a fan of political expressions in demos in 80s and 90s and I am still not a fan today. Had it also shown pics of terrorist attacks from 23/10/7 and mentioned it in the scroll texts, I would possibly give a thumb up. Well, the author decided otherwise.
Overall message is, obviously, nice and right. However, the author is, obviously, strongly biased. "Is Real" is just a stupid anagram. I was not a fan of political expressions in demos in 80s and 90s and I am still not a fan today. Had it also shown pics of terrorist attacks from 23/10/7 and mentioned it in the scroll texts, I would possibly give a thumb up. Well, the author decided otherwise.
Good effects, good music, nice graphics.
Now, this war has been going for ages. Golda Meir said she is palestinian (you will find a vid). For the record Joe Biden once said he is proud Zionist.
Who is correct, who is wrong? Hamas was created by Israel and CIA at least. Like always when some "terrorist country" "attacks", every single time trained at some point by CIA, or OSS but do follow your nice news who tell nice news who are bad and who are good. :)
Now, this war has been going for ages. Golda Meir said she is palestinian (you will find a vid). For the record Joe Biden once said he is proud Zionist.
Who is correct, who is wrong? Hamas was created by Israel and CIA at least. Like always when some "terrorist country" "attacks", every single time trained at some point by CIA, or OSS but do follow your nice news who tell nice news who are bad and who are good. :)
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invading other countries is bad! (except if your hero putin does it)
implying the use of nukes is bad! (except if your hero putin does it)
Putin is no ones hero and not Platon's either, quite rude to go personal when you apparently go with MSM's "how to spot a putin lover" -thing. Which is of course total nonsense. Ukraine is NATO/US vassal since 1950's and we who know, know.
Best invader of all times is USA and NATO, right now bombimg Yemen, again.
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Ukraine is NATO/US vassal since 1950's and we who know, know.
This is documented. And what some may find interesting, Israel weapon and other aid documented to Neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine. Not interesting to me, maybe waking to others.
Mainstream news even told of this years ago in some countries.
Government officialS, so, many of them, many ministers etc. has said: they have no right to live, they are animals, their children are snakes, they should be all destroyed
if Israel government officials say those things what do you think?
Are you AGAIN on wrong side.
Are you AGAIN on wrong side.
@ROG_VF:
..or maybe just show no killing at all but rather what lead to it in the first place -- in the here and now, not thousands or 70 years ago.
The french movie "La Haine" ("the hate") did a good job of this (you can watch it on YT for free but I won't link to it since it's probably not exactly legal).
but well, what @decca said: serious topic. I for one am quite exhausted when it comes to these political discussions. Can't we just all live together and trade with one another in peace. Sigh.
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My (imaginery) demo would have had a split screen showing the murdering, killing, and suffering of both sides
..or maybe just show no killing at all but rather what lead to it in the first place -- in the here and now, not thousands or 70 years ago.
The french movie "La Haine" ("the hate") did a good job of this (you can watch it on YT for free but I won't link to it since it's probably not exactly legal).
but well, what @decca said: serious topic. I for one am quite exhausted when it comes to these political discussions. Can't we just all live together and trade with one another in peace. Sigh.
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Ukraine is NATO/US vassal since 1950's and we who know, know.
Serpent, you out of your mind? Ukraine was part of the USSR until 1991. How could Ukraine have been a US vassal since the 1950s?
And these are the “historians” and “geopoliticians” who want to tell us through a demo how everything really is. My God!
Side note...
Well, I wonder when admins gonna change that yellow-blue "banner" to the original one...
Or they will make it in a different colors to show their support (cought).
Well, I wonder when admins gonna change that yellow-blue "banner" to the original one...
Or they will make it in a different colors to show their support (cought).
a convicted ped*le (good job, FBI) is a highly questionable source, and the USSR government up until the early 90ies was mainly formed by Ukrainians. NATO had no say in this until the Jelzin era.
you have to look deeper at the sociopolitical roots of these conflicts, not just the consequences (death and destruction).
in the end, these wars are all about the gains of the wealthy few who trick the common people into believing they are fighting for "a good cause" by blowing up and distorting these root causes out of proportion.
this and plain lies ("wag the dog").
you have to look deeper at the sociopolitical roots of these conflicts, not just the consequences (death and destruction).
in the end, these wars are all about the gains of the wealthy few who trick the common people into believing they are fighting for "a good cause" by blowing up and distorting these root causes out of proportion.
this and plain lies ("wag the dog").
@bsp ever heard of Operation Gladio? And there was operation in Ukraine long ago called project AERODYNAMIC which you can check CIA site what it was, and
Understand what i said.
Understand what i said.
@Serpent:
these "stay-behind" ops were and are still common operating procedure. look up "colour revolution" for a more forward take on this.
that being said: I am essentially on the US / NATO side and I don't like overly oppressive governments. On the other hand, I believe in evolution, not revolution.
I especially don't like it when a whole people is reduced to "the americans", "the russians", "the germans", "the iranians", (and so on).
if your only tool is a gun, everything looks like a target.
these "stay-behind" ops were and are still common operating procedure. look up "colour revolution" for a more forward take on this.
that being said: I am essentially on the US / NATO side and I don't like overly oppressive governments. On the other hand, I believe in evolution, not revolution.
I especially don't like it when a whole people is reduced to "the americans", "the russians", "the germans", "the iranians", (and so on).
if your only tool is a gun, everything looks like a target.
Religion. That’s why.
<3 <3 <3
Proper
The (fantastic) endpart just says it. Thanks for making this.
Thumbing this up already without watching because nfo has fuckings to Germany, Hamas and Havoc :-D
It's very well presented as a demo of it's kind. I'd like to give thumb just for that, not having a personal opinion on the current conflicts. It might be awkward to me, that with the thumb I might be showing preference of a side, while I really don't know/care. So, I'll leave it at that.
For the cause and the demo itself
The party mood during compo was definitely halted by this demo, and I didn't like that at the time. I think the unexpectedness (and as for many political topics in general) hurt its placement.
But I think the reason for contributing it was separate from that.
I don't know if I want more of the news flow in demos, but I think it's important that it was shown, the most demoscenish of the demos in the compo, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's nominated for Meteoriks.
Well-made and slick presentation, and I think the graphics look spot on for what should look like gritty newspaper clippings. Great release!
But I think the reason for contributing it was separate from that.
I don't know if I want more of the news flow in demos, but I think it's important that it was shown, the most demoscenish of the demos in the compo, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's nominated for Meteoriks.
Well-made and slick presentation, and I think the graphics look spot on for what should look like gritty newspaper clippings. Great release!
What a Greta Thunberg-moment. Without the demo mentioning the context of the terrorist murders on israel civilians from 10/07, it is impossible for me to not thumb this down. Also for the talk about "western controlled media". I didn't learn anything new from this demo. The situation is as terrible as it is.
Technically awesome demo, though.
Technically awesome demo, though.
Is fucking real.
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Strong demo, and important message. Kudos. Nothing can justify the atrocity that is happening. The world is watching, but are they seeing? More people need to stand up to this.
About time such a demo pops up again on Amiga.. nicely done with great ideas for bringing the msg!
I like the style.
respect
Hmm... I disagree with your philosophy of pacifism and with who you blame this war on.
However, that's not a reason to downvote this demo! We enjoy artistic freedom in the scene, let's keep it that way! If an issue is important to you, making a demo about it is completely fine, even if it means that some of us will occasionally see things we strongly disagree with. There's limits, of course, but this demo falls well within the bounds of the acceptable IMO.
Anyways, this is a simple but stylish demo and it manages to make an impact, so thumb.
However, that's not a reason to downvote this demo! We enjoy artistic freedom in the scene, let's keep it that way! If an issue is important to you, making a demo about it is completely fine, even if it means that some of us will occasionally see things we strongly disagree with. There's limits, of course, but this demo falls well within the bounds of the acceptable IMO.
Anyways, this is a simple but stylish demo and it manages to make an impact, so thumb.
That's a demo with a strong message. I praise the effects on it!
What can I say ? Thank you ! The demo should be on national television !
So people blamed me for not mentioning October 7. Well, here's October 7 for you.
I finally got around to actually watch this (on real hw) and it was pretty cool presentation. The subject of course isn't. Thank you for making this. And the final mouse click was also nice touch. Too bad it actually ended, or maybe it was just the crap box version that did it :)
Thought I’d thumbed this up already.. well done!
@ platon42 / 2024-04-09 18:30:35
I haven't watched the video but read the summary on Al Jazeera's site.
Hmm, I would like to address a couple of things but I decided not to
comment on political issues anymore on pouet.
I haven't watched the video but read the summary on Al Jazeera's site.
Hmm, I would like to address a couple of things but I decided not to
comment on political issues anymore on pouet.
there's no "civlized" in "people" someone in one of those schools they put you through must have been lying
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So people blamed me for not mentioning October 7. Well, here's October 7 for you.
Yeah, how silly. They should've waited patiently so you could get your slander and lies pre-chewed for you. Good thing those renowned fantasy authors at Al-Jazeera came through; can't beat getting your "facts" from proven fabricators at that mouthpiece of an autocracy, which just happens to be the chief sponsor of the child-torturing murderous rapist scum you excuse so easily.
I mean, that's the least one could expect of a truly reprehensible human being. The kind whose selective "compassion" demonstrates how little he truly cares about the dignity and lives he falsely pretends to value. Not even about those of the Palestinians - they matter only so long as you can dance on their blood, and perpetuate the deluded insanity which ensures that they remain eternal martyrs.
But it seems like this ain't your first rodeo, so by all means, go on bravely plumbing the bottom. You're welcome to it.
Reconsidered thumb. Gave it some disconnected abstract blah blah above, but having met the author of this work and noting his completely earnest humanity with regard to this prod, I'm wondering why I was so judgemental about another person's creative drives. -1 for internet bullshit, +1 for self expression - beautiful prod
Very well made with an important message!
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