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Having gone through recreating stuff, I know what massive amount of work this must have been. Really great achievement! Sorry that the last part didn't fit in, but I guess it simply just wasn't plausible to make it fit.
rulez added on the 2016-08-14 00:54:20 by Punqtured 
A lot of attention to details like timing, movement, colors etc. An almost perfect remake and not a remix, which makes it also a bit boring IMHO.
youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_GJfSTz6Dg
What Punqtured said
Nice. I hope to see more stuff like that for smartwatches.
Platform, efforts and quality
Amazing, I have written code for the pebble since the OG version, and I know how tricky it is to do something like this without screen flicker, etc. Great work!
😮!
Thank you all!
Yes, @Punqtured and @p01 - we went great lengths in order to sync it perfectly with the original. So much, that people at Evoke told me multiple times they thought it was an animated GIF or otherwise produced offline animation ;P
We developed an entire toolchain to decouple embedded C/ASM code from timings and data, a simulator to look at and debug the pixel perfect output on a Mac in quick turnarounds, and a web-based keyframe editor that controls the actual movements and parameters over time to compare the output with a video recording of the original side-by-side for each frame. Blender can also export binary geometry and the proprietary keyframe data to feed data into the tool chain for the 3D scenes (where we remodeled them from scratch).
I hope so much that I will find extra space to make an appstore-compliant version (Pebble limits resources to 256K there) that also features the missing city scene...
Yes, @Punqtured and @p01 - we went great lengths in order to sync it perfectly with the original. So much, that people at Evoke told me multiple times they thought it was an animated GIF or otherwise produced offline animation ;P
We developed an entire toolchain to decouple embedded C/ASM code from timings and data, a simulator to look at and debug the pixel perfect output on a Mac in quick turnarounds, and a web-based keyframe editor that controls the actual movements and parameters over time to compare the output with a video recording of the original side-by-side for each frame. Blender can also export binary geometry and the proprietary keyframe data to feed data into the tool chain for the 3D scenes (where we remodeled them from scratch).
I hope so much that I will find extra space to make an appstore-compliant version (Pebble limits resources to 256K there) that also features the missing city scene...
what Kylearan said. but nonetheless thumbs for the effort!
Great!
Really nice work! Hard to imagine you guys fit this into 256k and the limits of that platform. I take it the music isn't running on the watch?
Pebble watches have no speaker. To overcome that limitation and to underscore our timing that's tightly synchronized with the original we decided to play the original soundtrack.
I'm already playing out ideas in my head about how to involve the watch in playing our own music in sync with the next Pebble demo.
I'm already playing out ideas in my head about how to involve the watch in playing our own music in sync with the next Pebble demo.
Amazing amount of work, great job. And what noweb4u said... In fact I thought that epaper was lcd when watching the prod. Woot!
"This demo changed our lives"!
These remakes indeed get a bit boring, but the massive amount of work alone deserves a thumb.
Great attention to detail in this remake, both nostalgia and a bit of "the future is now" combined in this, when what once was something to show of our fast computer is now running on a wristwatch!
Cute
thumb up for new platform, remake of second reality is a bit cliche by now though
What psenough said. I would've preferred original content over porting something(even if its a classic).
Insane
What Shadow said. Remaking this particular thing is kind of a cliche now, but the attention to detail is astounding.
Does this include custom code to make e-ink animations smoother or is it just the driver that does it?
Anyway, very smooth and faithful remake!
Anyway, very smooth and faithful remake!
Top!
Great port!
So you found yourself a pretty cool platform that's powered by a 144 MHz Cortex-M7. And the first thing you do is rewriting a demo that was originally made for 33 MHz 486s?!
Don't get me wrong, I really like ports/conversions of popular demos to quirky inferior hardware, but with emphasis on "inferior". Here, you got >5x the processing power, have to fill ~30% less pixels than the original and don't even need to take care of sound at all. I honor the fact that you had to make do with just 128k of RAM and went to great lengths to make it as accurate as possible, but still, it's a rather boring conversion. It doesn't offer anything that makes it stand out on its own.
Don't get me wrong, I really like ports/conversions of popular demos to quirky inferior hardware, but with emphasis on "inferior". Here, you got >5x the processing power, have to fill ~30% less pixels than the original and don't even need to take care of sound at all. I honor the fact that you had to make do with just 128k of RAM and went to great lengths to make it as accurate as possible, but still, it's a rather boring conversion. It doesn't offer anything that makes it stand out on its own.
Yeah, p much what KeyJ is saying except without the thumb-down as doing something for the pebble is cool as shit and I hope you'll do more, original work on it!
I was chatting at the bar and really couldn't get myself to watch Second Reality yet *again* on another platform.
I was chatting at the bar and really couldn't get myself to watch Second Reality yet *again* on another platform.
Lots of attention to detail but pretty boring indeed.
What KeyJ and okkie said.
Amazing effort and kudos for pulling this off in such an anally retentive manner.
Looking forward to see your own original work soon!
Looking forward to see your own original work soon!
One of my favorite old pc-scene demo ported on a watch. This is indeed a nice "alternative" platform choice. Great job to respect the timings and the look of the original demo which required 4Mb of RAM (and a 66mhz 486). So maybe the watch's CPU is a bit more powerfull but you've got 16 x less memory than the original platform ;-), so respect for your work. I can't wait for Second Reality on a smart wash machine or a smart fridge ;-).
Awesome! Some effects really look even more splendid than in the original. And however you have done it, you did put almost all content into this limited space. Major props :).
Sweet
Second Reality ports are the demoscene equivalent of "It runs Doom". Next time on a printer lcd :)
I felt exactly the same as KeyJ when this was shown. Clearly a lot of work though.
ah, that was supposed to be a piggy, oh well :)
Achievement unlocked: Ported Second Reality to a new platform
Been a few years since I last saw Second Reality. It was a pleasure to watch such a faithful reproduction of it. Impressive stuff.
Very nice!
scene with dot fountains, and waves - ROCKs!
scene with dot fountains, and waves - ROCKs!
Second Reality also changed my live! Amazing effort! Well Done! :)
Every Second Reality port are special, especially the good ones, like this one, again Well Done! :)
Every Second Reality port are special, especially the good ones, like this one, again Well Done! :)
Love it.
Insane! I didn't know the machine I carry around my wrist could go this far :) Two suggestions/workaround for the "Pebble doesn't have an speaker" issue:
1) Write an Android/iOS app that launches an audio player with a song of your own, then callbacks Pebble with an OK message and starts playing demo.
2) Use the built-in vibrator, it can produce some music-like interesting sounds! :D
1) Write an Android/iOS app that launches an audio player with a song of your own, then callbacks Pebble with an OK message and starts playing demo.
2) Use the built-in vibrator, it can produce some music-like interesting sounds! :D
Watching it, I thought all the parts were independent sections of code. Speaking with HBehrens briefly, it turns out there is much reuse with an underlying engine of sorts which piqued my interest. Anticipating the eventual post about the making of, if it ever comes.
A bit about the Pebble hardware. They're also constrained within the sandbox and framework of the SDK. The micro is underclocked to 100 Mhz for sweet battery life. The firmware only allows the app to use 66KB of ram, and a portion of it is immediately used up by the firmware's app framework which includes a 24KB framebuffer. Outside of the app, the system also has its own framebuffer, but it's not for traditional double buffering. The system framebuffer exists for the OS to overlay things above the app without touching the app framebuffer. The OS must context switch to the system thread to copy the app framebuffer into every frame. Lastly, the graphic primitives provided by the OS are not hardware accelerated by the M4's Chrom-ART feature, and AFAIK you can't attempt to use them as an app.
Awesome prod.
A bit about the Pebble hardware. They're also constrained within the sandbox and framework of the SDK. The micro is underclocked to 100 Mhz for sweet battery life. The firmware only allows the app to use 66KB of ram, and a portion of it is immediately used up by the firmware's app framework which includes a 24KB framebuffer. Outside of the app, the system also has its own framebuffer, but it's not for traditional double buffering. The system framebuffer exists for the OS to overlay things above the app without touching the app framebuffer. The OS must context switch to the system thread to copy the app framebuffer into every frame. Lastly, the graphic primitives provided by the OS are not hardware accelerated by the M4's Chrom-ART feature, and AFAIK you can't attempt to use them as an app.
Awesome prod.
Someone do an Apple Watch port. ;P
awesome port with so few memory! perhaps the hardware is way more powerfull than a 486 but I think you made a great job here!
ho and yes of course, it's always the same port of the same demo, but watching Second Reality once more or a different hardware is like listening again Bach's triosonates played on a new organ :)
ho and yes of course, it's always the same port of the same demo, but watching Second Reality once more or a different hardware is like listening again Bach's triosonates played on a new organ :)
For the effort.
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