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Day of the Tentacle (Maniac Mansion 2) by Hybrid
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Nice tune. But the overall feeling is quite odd.

Small story, for those of you interested in...
Here Hybrid lacked of skills, they gave up... The game could not be cracked by the Swedes... Saying it is uncrackable, they tried to save some time by disouraging the competition (the trick very well known, and unfair from the other side) and still try to be the first, continuing in cracking it.

While we may read in the info by Hybrid, from 9h40am, june, 12th 1993:
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Ok guys, here it is, the first disk of DOTT! So stop bitching, and yeah,
it is a BITCH to crack, so now we have given everyone a fair chance I think!
And there is probably more copy-protection after the SPECIAL BATTERY shit
protection, and FIGURE THAT OUT!

-Hoson of Hybrid in 1993
(Pissed, tired, cool, heavy, death metallist)

p.s. Atleast we're men enought to admit our own defeats!
p.s.s. We're still working on it!


the dudes at Razor1911 european division (ofcourse), at 7h33am, on June, 12th 1993 (european time) had the following news, written by Randall Flagg:

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Day Of The Tentacle - Manian Mansion II Cracked By Randall Flagg!
Note: ----Public Use ----


Yes, BUT guess what? True, the race were not over =)! Scene fellows from the mighty The Dream Team, more precisely DR Detergent /TDT had already cracked the game on June, 11th 1993 at 13h48. On emay read in their NFOfile:

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We were sitting on the game cool as ice and knew we would make it, but not WHEN! Finally now, your favourite cracking team has made it again! It's a nice and clean CRACK. TDT doesn't deal with charity and releasing a crack patch only would be like just giving the release away to another group.

After installing the game make sure to copy the file : DOTTCRK.COM and run it EVERY time before you play the game!

As you read from the nfo from hybrid, they told everyone it was NOT cracked so that means everyone could crack the game, but TDT came first!

WARNING FOR HYBRID RELEASES! Don't bother downloading them if you are not a cracker...hehe


The issue is where it was cracked to find out the proper geographical time shift.

To see what the competition was all about, one must read another crew's NFO to find out. This time it was Genesis*Project PC division, a parto of legendary C=64 group, who were standing proudly. On June, 12th 1993 at 19h03, Snacky of G*P wrote:

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Well, definitly we have had some problems withing Genesis and with some lamers who claimed to be Members (read Note) but now i am really proud to present you a crackpatch for this awesome game...

It took me some hours to make it and i hope that you all like it !

Hey TDT:
What's on... cool release ehhh another 6 Disk to get spead for a Crackpatch witch is not working ,haha !

Hey Hybrid:
What's on... before giving up and saying that this game could NOT be cracked ,wait some days and here we go !

Be sure to grap new Trainers and Releases from your favourite entertainment Group '1993 !


Althou the time says it all, it was the FINAL, not bugging release.
Knowing Snacky's skills, noone will even doubt about it, even comparing the cracking time saying that Razor1911 was first, followed by the others.
But please do not forget that crackers were play-testing this game thus checking the protection. It was a game were using a quite sophisticated protecion which activated itself while playing and going further into the plot.That important fact hre does shroud the release time.

Thus we may conclude that G*P won fully the competition. Why not, but there is one issue.. Why in the G*P's crack-file "GENESIS.GP" (the crack consiste of two small files: "DOTTCRGP.COM" and the mentionned one) one may read:

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RAZOR/Maniac Manson II


Perheps it is nothing, or... is it?

The only one help may be that Snacky was a VERY honorable and respectable C=64 cracker, who apparently has never ever stolen any crack It would took him more time than cracking a gamy by himself. ;)
rulez added on the 2014-02-13 21:19:10 by sim sim
ok one...
added on the 2014-05-05 23:45:53 by T$ T$
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Saying it is uncrackable, they tried to save some time by disouraging the competition (the trick very well known, and unfair from the other side)


Nothing unfair at all here, any "cracker" who believes that something is "uncrackable" definitely doesn't deserve to be called cracker.

And they should have known that interpreter based protections are a bit harder than your average "one nop here, one jmp there" protections as DOTT wasn't the first Lucasfilm/arts game ever anyway!
added on the 2014-05-05 23:58:43 by StingRay StingRay
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Nothing unfair at all here

"Nothing unfair"... Should I write LAME to make it more understandanble, I see...

I agree with:
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any "cracker" who believes that something is "uncrackable" definitely doesn't deserve to be called cracker.

I will agree in 1oo% if someone crack original C64 Rubicon's protection by Snacky.
added on the 2014-05-17 09:54:28 by sim sim
Hey.. all i can say is that it was fun to crack!
Welcome aboard Randall ;)! Any information to add about it?
added on the 2015-06-16 00:23:49 by sim sim
<3
rulez added on the 2016-05-01 21:28:31 by iks iks
sim: thanks for the story, loved reading every word of it! :)

prod: well, looks like some 1985-c64-cracktro...
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Perheps it is nothing, or... is it?


Snacky was a member aof both G*P and Razor back then...
added on the 2016-05-01 23:45:04 by Widdy Widdy
4cool story
rulez added on the 2016-05-02 00:19:22 by 1in10 1in10
I can add that I also changed the text where Dr Fred triggers the protection asking for the super battery ingredients (ascii text was xored as per Lucasfilm games by a single byte, could be 0x69h iirc). The crack would completely wipe that scene, letting the gamer pass thru without prompting for anything. But it also did that in case one later would look at the battery plans. Not a big deal. If im not wrong, other 2-3 groups came out with a crack, some even 2-3 days after, and got nuked pretty much everywhere. Razor version is the only one that you can still find around, even on torrent :).
nice!
rulez added on the 2018-02-13 06:09:32 by sensenstahl sensenstahl

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