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Poing (Amiga 30 Years) by Da Jormas [web]
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release date : june 2015
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added on the 2015-06-26 23:15:04 by vesuri vesuri

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rulez added on the 2015-06-27 00:27:05 by bonefish bonefish
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rulez added on the 2015-06-27 01:00:47 by gentleman gentleman
Great!!!
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 04:55:10 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
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rulez added on the 2015-06-27 06:43:14 by Serpent Serpent
Great! cu all there..

or watch the windows/linux livestream of the amiga 30 years event in amsterdam today here:

http://www.cymtv.nl/amiga30
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 07:00:57 by magic magic
poing poing poing
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 08:51:39 by yzi yzi
Finally, a demo that redoes the boing ball effect but doesn't suck balls. Great! Should've used a cover of Rotterdam Termination Source's "Poing" as the soundtrack though :)
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 09:19:38 by break break
Also, major thumbs up for the audio trickery. Hoping to see more OCS demos doing more than playing mods in the future.
added on the 2015-06-27 09:37:37 by break break
Excellent! Great music, nice effects and AMIIIIIGGGGAAAAHH!
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 11:05:23 by StingRay StingRay
Loved the amount of colors a lot! The plasma is very nice! Bounce little Amiga ball!! BB Image
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 11:20:21 by Buckethead Buckethead
Amiga <3
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 11:49:28 by SnC SnC
This great little demo proves, one more time, the Amiga's engineers were a whole era ahead of all the other temas from that time.

And STILL, I can NOT get it completelly, how we have all managed to finish (at least in current days) in this dull world of windows...
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 13:58:10 by sim sim
Bouncy <3
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 14:02:36 by Triace Triace
I never knew Paula could do AM and FM (?) modulation on chip... thumbs up for that.
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 14:03:58 by noby noby
'just rewatched it but since Youtube, damn the sound!!
Modulation!
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 14:41:27 by ham ham
nice, but i expected this as soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqD1OohY2to! :)
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 15:17:46 by maali maali
Cool prod, OCS rulez! :)
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 15:41:22 by sachy sachy
Nice
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 15:57:49 by Corial Corial
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I never knew Paula could do AM and FM (?) modulation on chip... thumbs up for that.


it can also store your pin number in its ram memory ;-)
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 17:43:43 by xeron xeron
Nice idea, nice execution. Cool code and tune. Bring on the next thirty years :)
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 18:40:03 by pmc pmc
great!
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 18:42:32 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
ALL HAIL THE BOING BALL! ^^
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 19:05:04 by HellMood HellMood
So niiiiiiiiiiiiice !!! I love the music and the design, great job ! Thank you !
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 19:07:03 by HuggyOne76 HuggyOne76
awesome prod!
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 20:20:02 by SiR SiR
Cool initiative, and I like the modulation - although the 1MB limit would have to be lifted to use it properly without the sampled loops - well you already know this.

And expect the truecolor picture quality to be improved by Scoopex shortly. ;)
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 23:37:25 by Photon Photon
Poing!
Also, using Paula's modulation feature in a demo, might actually be a worlds first :)
rulez added on the 2015-06-27 23:44:11 by Scali Scali
Photon, the mod is actually quite small - it's mostly the size of the images that causes the memory requirement and that could have been improved in multiple ways. The runtime chip memory requirements are quite heavy due to the HAM part (around 200k) but by holding back on the graphics or doing them in vector form for instance the thing could run on an Amiga 1000 with 256k of chip memory, at least if you ditch the OS. There's a lot to be improved here; no design at all, the song and the modulation could be more innovative, the writer parts could be used to prepare for the coming parts (with the expense of chip mem consumption). I'm actually hoping this to be an inspiration for things to come - this is definitely just the beginning. Regarding the picture quality - sure, that's the easy part :P There are some way more interesting things the HAM mode can offer - unfortunately not seen here in this small production...
rulez added on the 2015-06-28 03:53:20 by vesuri vesuri
I just heard an awkward silence, so I need to upgrade my UAE! But my UAE is already the latest version 3.1.0! WHAT SHOULD I DO??? HELP!!! lol ;)

Seriously, I don't remember the last time I *HAD* to upgrade WinUAE. There should a scene competition/category for that: breaking emulators with obscure hardware hack!
rulez added on the 2015-06-28 04:59:26 by ramon ramon
ramon: you need WinUAE 3.2.0b1 (releaed on Jun 26 2015) or later :) See here: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=1027616
added on the 2015-06-28 05:16:23 by vesuri vesuri
modulation!
rulez added on the 2015-06-28 06:26:53 by ok3anos ok3anos
Working! Thanks!
added on the 2015-06-28 09:08:17 by ramon ramon
Happy 30 year Amigaaaah
rulez added on the 2015-06-28 12:19:06 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
Nice and appropriate for the 30 years of the Amiga :)
rulez added on the 2015-06-28 12:22:34 by exocet exocet
Screen content was pretty boring (if maybe technically impressive), using the Paula modulation stuff was pretty neat, though.
Okay. Thumb up for paula modulation.
rulez added on the 2015-06-29 07:30:58 by leGend leGend
Scali: there have been some OCS prods before with real time audio modulation, at least this and this. Not necessarily using the same tricks though.
added on the 2015-06-29 11:35:44 by break break
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there have been some OCS prods before with real time audio modulation, at least this and this.


I haven't checked out the other one, but Dunne Lul modifies some of the samples during playback (basically gradually distorting them more and more). That's not modulation at all.
added on the 2015-06-29 12:18:29 by vesuri vesuri
Thanks for the clarification, As for the chipset features this is probably indeed the world first :)
added on the 2015-06-29 12:25:52 by break break
Neat! And extra thumb for breaking the emulator. :)
rulez added on the 2015-06-29 21:18:47 by Kylearan Kylearan
Great to hear some modulation! So nice that you brought a release along. Did you manage to mention or show it to any of the guys?
rulez added on the 2015-06-29 22:07:14 by noname noname
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Did you manage to mention or show it to any of the guys?


We talked about it with RJ Mical but in the end he was so busy with the autographs and interviews that I couldn't show it to him. A pity.
added on the 2015-06-30 10:33:02 by vesuri vesuri
Poing indeed :)
rulez added on the 2015-06-30 12:30:14 by Psycho Psycho
Neat!
rulez added on the 2015-06-30 22:00:45 by Daniel Daniel
Awesome!
Vesuri: All we ever demanded off you was keeping on to deliver "Ace Soundtracks" paired with "fitting Visuals", you kept on delivering, we all were happy!
But now you showed off your Skillz and i am happy for you! Technically a bomb, especially the modulation! (Almost sounds like a c64-softSynth just with way more BASS!)
Asskick a bit more like this and you could rule The Charts, too bad there aren´t any nowadays! ;)
rulez added on the 2015-06-30 22:10:40 by ɧ4ɾɗվ. ɧ4ɾɗվ.
Can you tell us a little more about how you authored and replayed the soundtrack with modulation? I mean, I don't see any obvious tracker doing that out of the box.
added on the 2015-06-30 23:41:33 by noname noname
rock n roll
rulez added on the 2015-07-01 21:06:12 by DuckOfMOPS DuckOfMOPS
thumb up for the paula fuckery :)
rulez added on the 2015-07-01 21:29:52 by aegis aegis
Nice demo with some unusual effects...
rulez added on the 2015-07-02 11:51:30 by kwe kwe
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Can you tell us a little more about how you authored and replayed the soundtrack with modulation? I mean, I don't see any obvious tracker doing that out of the box.


It was a bit of a pain. Like all the other dA JoRMaS prods this one uses the TrackerPacker playroutine to play a normal ProTracker mod. What I did was to add some new PT commands for the player allowing me to switch the modulations on and off and to control the length of a loop of the modulating channel's data. That's pretty much trivial; the authoring part was nastier though. I wrote some code to generate modulating data (samples but interpreted as data by Paula), write the results to files and load them as samples in ProTracker. Then I used a small binary to switch the modulations on while running ProTracker to be able to hear the results while composing. Due to the nature of modulation reasonable results often require some experimentation and with this rudimentary process it was a bit tricky - and definitely not very creative. That's why the track is very simple and straight forward. I'm sure much more interesting results could be had by writing some appropriate (interactive?) tools, even for creation of the modulating data.

StarTrekker has an AM and an FM button and Audiosculpture may have these features as well, but I haven't given them a try.
added on the 2015-07-02 17:43:31 by vesuri vesuri
30 years and still rockin'!
rulez added on the 2015-07-03 13:13:31 by tripper tripper
It was OK.
added on the 2015-07-04 16:58:15 by AntDude AntDude
Nice :)
rulez added on the 2015-07-05 00:48:32 by Sapphire Sapphire
nice
rulez added on the 2015-07-05 15:45:19 by fyrex fyrex
Boringface. Sound modulation is good, though.
LOL. You guys don't know how much you approved the Amiga is a successor to the Atari 8 bits. That "modulation" of PAULA is 100% what POKEY does. And, well it's all there... just 2 generations ahead, as Atari left to put their advances computers onto the market.
And, well, I remember, back in the Days, seeing the Amiga Ball bouncing in one Desktop layer, while I was writing letters...
This "new boing" shows better where the limits were...
rulez added on the 2015-07-07 01:38:59 by emkay emkay
New records after 30 years?
rulez added on the 2015-07-08 09:19:06 by Alone_Coder Alone_Coder
nice
rulez added on the 2015-07-19 10:29:12 by DJM/DTA DJM/DTA
Love it. Enjoyed the tech info too
rulez added on the 2015-07-21 16:48:39 by evilpaul evilpaul
dA KooL!
rulez added on the 2015-07-22 16:37:03 by lvd lvd
For using the modulation hardware! And also for the other nice Amiga tricks inside!
rulez added on the 2015-07-24 16:15:16 by rloaderro rloaderro
Love the ball graphic and modulation effect is pretty trick too.
rulez added on the 2016-01-12 22:32:39 by SortedGeeza SortedGeeza
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Nice demo with some unusual effects...


Hi Kwe, the AM/FM routines in startrekker etc are different, they don’t modulate channels per se, they synthesize basic sounds on one channel that you render.

I would love to get hold of the binary you used to turn on channel modulation. Do you think you could send me a copy to pauleebowen@gmail.com

Your work is great!

Paul.
rulez added on the 2018-07-17 19:10:24 by xanderbeanz xanderbeanz
Splendid
rulez added on the 2021-04-11 10:44:34 by grip grip
Magnificent.
rulez added on the 2021-04-11 11:06:49 by AlienTech AlienTech
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rulez added on the 2022-12-30 05:34:41 by mccnex mccnex
Nice one.

You know that's funny because the first SoundTrackers (at least up to DOC's SoundTracker VI) had support for frequencies & volumes modulations.
If i remember well it was removed by Obarski in his SoundTracker v1.8 (which was then hacked into DOC's SoundTracker IX).

I, personally, never heard any song that used that feature back then (that's probably why it was removed).
rulez added on the 2023-11-21 17:18:53 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
nice

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