pouët.net

Lets see… Uploader account created today. Same with the group. No prior releases. No intofile. No youtube capture. Not released at a party. Screenshot looks like slop…

Why was this made?

RoboSlop be like "Destroy the public trust. Protect the billionaires. Ignore the law.".

Sigh.

Oh yeah forgot my thumb.

👻

Why?

"TCC [Design]" how ironic... (for those who know the RSI megademo...)

How ironic...

okay?

No

No, even

Nope...

How ironic...

glöp

lol yeah

Oh, no...

Nice style.

Be kind and respectful. Always.

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Slöp.

Demonstrating an extreme lack of understanding of the importance of consent

Enough with all the negativity, people ...
This is just a group of retro-computer enthousiasts having some fun.
Yes, it's low effort, but it does not claim to be anything else.
The compo rules clearly stated that "The use of AI with subtle support is permitted." and AI usage is mentioned in the scroll text.
If you don't like it, that's fine, but don't take away the joy of the creators.
At least the scrolltext feels personal, is honest, and shows some understanding of what the code is doing.
If AI helps non-coders to explore the platform and the compo rules allow it, why would there be a reason to give them shit for it?

@steffest: i disagree. we we just go "oh, let them have their fun", will they be ever motivated to actually learn to do it by hand? this is not just some bedroom experiment among friends, but a release that is deliberately set in a scene context, and thus has to be judged by established scene rules. in the old days, buying an intro from an external coder for money was among the lamest things you could do - and how exactly is paying an AI with tokens to code a demo for you any different?

also, in terms of being nice to new sceners (which i totally endorse!): letting this stuff through would be extremely discouraging for all those new & young sceners of the past few years (and there are quite some!) who actually learned to code (or do music or gfx) in order to participate in the scene and earn their respect.

Here you go @Steffest. I originally gave this a piggy. You convinced me: this needs to be thumbed down. Thank you for reminding me what needs to be done and how.

to add to my last point: think about all these newcomers' corners, newbie workshops, mentors at demoparties etc., all this work done by the orgas of mountainbytes, revision etc. in this regard, the graffathons in finland - all this was about actually creating something by yourself (and in collaboration with other people)! don't you think the people who participated in these efforts and learned something their hard way might feel totally stupid and discouraged now? here's someone who generated his code & gfx with a LLM and didn't bother to learn anything of (scene-)value. are you really expect everybody to give him the same warm welcome like the one we (hopefully) have given to these newcomers? honestly, even the crummiest "hello world" basic demo has more scene spirit than AI slop pretending to be a scene production.

I guess I should’ve been more explicit in my initial comment, but just to clarify: The misogyny in the title alone would’ve been enough for me to think less of this production. And, when you think of it, it’s kind of a self-own already to imply that your computer doesn’t want to be touch by you, huh?

No one is taking anything away from anyone. They're absolutely free to enjoy whatever they want.
Do you really have to ask?

runs smooth and flawless on real hardware. very clichéd all around. we've seen and heard worse, but doesn't really make juice dripping from the possey

Would be preferable in every way possible that stuff such as this was declared as to which parts, bits and pieces were made with AI (obviously not the music from ~1991) and how they were made (very presumably with AI). Jinx_TCC, it's not too late, I guess...

So, then maybe it would be better to tell them this in the comments. Maybe with some links to nice sites that teach the art of coding. You can of course still downvote the stuff, but the comment would add a value instead of the permanent »AI Slop«, »Sigh« or »Why«.

And?
Does it mean they should, by all means, release something to for ex. mark their existance on the scene?

If so, then I can assume that back in the days they would probably have bought some sources from the coders. Or pay for the intro. Or use RSI demomaker.

Wake up!
The reason one can DO sth because the AI is here, does NOT mean that it should be done.

Or sth like:
"Look mum, I can do what they are doing, as well."

You think? Hmmm, let’s think about it…
Nah, 💩 is enough.

Yes, it's a lame tool.
Equally lame as paying for Notch?
Certainly coding your own effects is way cooler (it is!)

Paying for Photoshop?
Certainly making your own graphics editor is way cooler (it is!, or better, learn how to draw with paper and pencil)

Paying for for Ableton Live or FL Studio?
Certainly making your own music engine is way cooler (it is! Or even better, learn how to play a real instrument)

My point is: it's just a tool. Yes, a lame one, but still a tool.
Shit in, shit out.
In the hands of skilled and creative people, it can really improve the results (as the recent C64 demos of e.g. Extend show)
People should disclose what tool was uses briefly, then people can give their thumb up or down, and move on.
But this overly priggish negativity towards AI is just getting annoying, boring and it's hurting the scene more than any AI every could.
(All IMHO ofcourse)
P.S. hugs to @dipswitch, of course, sorry to hijack this thread.

this is just a blatantly untrue statement and it makes me so sad .... it wouldve been doable without ai and it wouldve been so awesome without ai :(

Steffest, with all due respect, I think it really is more than "just a tool", for many reasons (one of them is that you can't pirate it like Photoshop of FL, but there are many more deep and serious reasons). I hope that these topics can be elaborated in lenght in some form in the near future without burying them in a prod thread.

As for the prod: I still stand by my opinion that the negative reactions are fully justified. This is not about using AI as s tool, this is comparable to using RSI Demomaker or, even worse, buying an intro for your group from someone else.

This is because you use it.