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No intent to mislead, I attempted to add a credit but used the incorrect term so it didn't show up here on pouet, but I've requested to be credited for "prompting", sorry about that.

I agree with you, I think that AI removes a lot of the previous technical barriers to creating something like this, which takes away from the achievements of those who have come before. Especially since much of AI's abilities were bootstrapped (stolen) from publicly available art, code, etc.

This demo was intentionally supposed to be provocative. If "vibecoded" means creating something using agentic AI, then yes, this is vibecoded. Is it "slop"? That's maybe a different question. Current generation AI tools, especially in the right hands, are much more capable than one might expect, and for every person that's honest about using them, there will be another person who doesn't disclose that they're using AI.

If I build a toolchain using AI, and then use that toolchain to create a demo, is that AI garbage? Is that just being resourceful? Figuring out where to draw the lines on these things is very difficult and going to become more difficult as the technology improves. I am a professional programmer and have a system-level understanding of how this demo works... but do I have a line-by-line understanding of the code in this demo? Not at all. I also do not consider myself an "artist".

I have been writing code for decades because I like making things. Now that AI can write more, and better, code than I ever could, there is little point in me sitting down and writing out a function line by line. For those who believe that AI only writes garbage code, you're either not using the newest tools available, or you're not using them correctly. Current generation AI's broad technical ability is far greater than what any ordinary individual programmer could ever expect to achieve.

The scene sits at a very difficult intersection of technical ability and art. Much as I don't enjoy doing math by hand and would rather use a calculator, AI is how 99.9% of code is going to be written in the future. There seems to be a lot of division in this community about what AI means for the demoscene. I want this demo to add to the conversation.

Not a shred of that comment was written by an LLM.

Fair points @SunSpire, I appreciate your thoughtful assessment of the state of things.

My intent here was effectively:
- Make something self-referential: the narrative, loosely, is the 3 leading AI companies, represented by their surprisingly awful logos (seriously, who designed those...) slurping up all the data and leading us into a unknown future
- Have it run on the Amiga, the juxtposition of a demo about LLMs being presented on such old hardware (or emulated) is humorous to me
- See how much effort it would take to go from my concept to something that I felt represented what I wanted, with modern coding tools. Not because I want to rush, but because I'm personally interested in understanding what they're capable of and a time/effort constraint was a helpful way to approach it



I think that this is a good way of thinking about it. That being said, my feeling is that once people hear "AI", it usually shuts down most peoples ability to enjoy a demo regardless of how impressive it is. Perhaps things will change though.

Another little thought on this: With how rejected AI is here, demomakers are not going to be incentivized to disclose their AI use. If they make something incredible and use AI in small or large part, they will not be disclosing it because of how rejected it is. As the "slop" becomes indistinguishable from human-quality it means people won't be able to tell the two apart.

Just scrolling on the first page of recent prods I can see at least one demo where AI was clearly used and nobody has mentioned it because it's pretty good, but it's also not disclosed either.

It's a strange time. I really enjoyed writing code, but "make computer do a thing" is becoming increasingly disconnected from "write very specific instruction to make computer do a thing".