SIDSTATION...anyone?
category: general [glöplog]
does anyone have SIDSTATION? maybe id like to buy it.. is there a catch or something? : )
No catch, other than it's very expensive (their website says 920e new) for what it is, riding on the fame of the SID chip.This price will probably double, but who knows... Obiviously you can get a C=64 much cheaper. Or you can build some of this stuff, costs less, much cooler.
or try http://www.hardsid.com, fancy pci soundcard with up to 4 sids, can be controlled through midi and what's best, it's also supported in vice and ccs64 (and sidplay, yay! :-)
hardsid is sweet and quite cheap, all in all... SIDstation is quite cool, but expensive to my pockets.
160-200 euros for a soundcard is cheap? i guess i'll leave my 50 dollar santa cruz by itself. :)
I've never seen the hardsid folks at a demoparty, but Jens Schoenfeld has been at TUM and Breakpoint - where I've bought my Catweasels. Which work killer (:
Mk4 has slots for 2 sids, and better timing... both work in VICE, and with sidplay and so on.
www.ami.ga ...
Mk4 has slots for 2 sids, and better timing... both work in VICE, and with sidplay and so on.
www.ami.ga ...
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OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! :)
thanks for tips, guys! i'd like to have it mainly for music creation. so you say hardSID is as good as SIDstation? i thought hardSID is just just sound interface which behaves exactly like SID and in the contrary SIDstation is more into experimenting??
deetsay hoho, rebuilt c64, what a cool thing! anyway i wouldnt like to destroy my c64 this way ; )
fr-33 id like to have a pc interface (nothing against amigas... : )
deetsay hoho, rebuilt c64, what a cool thing! anyway i wouldnt like to destroy my c64 this way ; )
fr-33 id like to have a pc interface (nothing against amigas... : )
Nula: it's a pci bus card on the catweasel 4... with drivers for windows, osX, and linux. (tho, like most everything Jens does, the hardware rules and the software support is a bit less ruling. I wouldn't trade mine for anything tho.)
Catweasel 3 was a flipcard, pci on one side and zorro II on the other.
Okkie: Yeah I know, I wonder if we can get you clue.shop.pe ... no apparently not, and there's no .op either. Oh well.
Catweasel 3 was a flipcard, pci on one side and zorro II on the other.
Okkie: Yeah I know, I wonder if we can get you clue.shop.pe ... no apparently not, and there's no .op either. Oh well.
fr-33 aahh i didnt know....... ill check it out!
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so you say hardSID is as good as SIDstation? i thought hardSID is just just sound interface which behaves exactly like SID and in the contrary SIDstation is more into experimenting??
Yeah, you need a big stinking PC to stick the HardSid into. :-) But it has Windows MIDI-software for building sounds, so it can also be used as a MIDI instrument like the SidStation. The HardSid software is probably not "as good", but even better. At least this old Sound-on-Sound review says that if you use the SidStation in "polyphonic" mode, then you must use the same instrument on all the three channels. That sounds really crappy and limiting, no way to make a whole "C64-tune" using that thing then...
I suppose by "experimenting" you mean quick & fast trying out, like playing around with it by MIDI? Sounds like you want the HardSid. You get the emulator support as a bonus, so you can experiment with C64 music softwarez and SID programming too, if you feel like it. :-) The CatWeasel is better for emulators with a drive interface and joystick interfaces and whatnot, but as far as I know there is no MIDI software for it.
Why not build yourself one?
www.ucapps.de
This design can go up to a maximum of four SIDs and has a front panel option for controls as well..
My single SID minimalistic design:
http://www.kewlers.scene.org/bitchard/diy/SIDV2_1.JPG
http://www.kewlers.scene.org/bitchard/diy/SIDV2_3.JPG
www.ucapps.de
This design can go up to a maximum of four SIDs and has a front panel option for controls as well..
My single SID minimalistic design:
http://www.kewlers.scene.org/bitchard/diy/SIDV2_1.JPG
http://www.kewlers.scene.org/bitchard/diy/SIDV2_3.JPG
He didn't want to "destroy his C64". I figured he's not into building stuff then, so I left out a part from my msg above explaining that there's no need to destroy anything, just get the SID out, the case is optional.
http://www.kewlers.scene.org/bitchard/diy/3k3_front.JPG
Cool, but did you destroy a SK-1 to make that? :-)
Cool, but did you destroy a SK-1 to make that? :-)
truck: blasted, i'll have to start my own country called Penselendiania that will have the .pe suffix and then i can open www.clueshop.pe! \o/
*hint* clueshoppe.com *hint*
Besides that: The catweasel rawks.
Besides that: The catweasel rawks.
no .pe?
www.nic.pe
se habla español.
www.nic.pe
se habla español.
LONG LIVE PERU SCENE!
HELLOES!
All this hardware sid is all very nice, but for an alternative option and probably an easier one to integrate staright into studio host applications due to its VSTi interface u might want to consider QuadraSID by ReFX..
http://www.refx.net/pro_QuadraSID.htm?lang=eng
description from the website:
The sidstation looks like a fun toy to have with alot of flexible features to play with, but with the VSTi plugin comming in at just under $60 you have a cheap and fairly powerful sid emulation enviroment just without a shiny box and a couple of midi ports.
http://www.refx.net/pro_QuadraSID.htm?lang=eng
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QuadraSID offers far more than a simple emulation of the SID chip. Enriched with many new functions e.g. an arpeggiator, four LFOs, wavetables and a eight fold oversampling, this software instrument offers unlimited sonic possibilities, and surprises even the most experienced SID professional by its flexibility.
Each instance QuadraSID loaded emulates four SID chips at the same time - of course with four separate stereo outputs and controllable by MIDI-controllers.
reFX lets the legend live on: QuadraSID produces the timeless and immortal sound of the SID chip for the eternity!
Beta-tested by Chris Hülsbeck, the C-64 SID guru.
The sidstation looks like a fun toy to have with alot of flexible features to play with, but with the VSTi plugin comming in at just under $60 you have a cheap and fairly powerful sid emulation enviroment just without a shiny box and a couple of midi ports.
deetsay that part about "destroying c64" was kind of joke.. some guys ruined their c64's to design their MIDIbox SID, i wouldnt do such a thing. anyway, ive got one extra SID but no one who would build that machine for me : / and hell yeah then, hardsid quattro would be prolly the right solution for me.
el-bee i already saw this, cool! now i regret im as lame into building things as you can imagine ; )
keito: yep ive tried this one (and two other SID-emulating VSTi) but.. nothing can beat real MOS6581 : )))
el-bee i already saw this, cool! now i regret im as lame into building things as you can imagine ; )
keito: yep ive tried this one (and two other SID-emulating VSTi) but.. nothing can beat real MOS6581 : )))
Kusma: Sal-One is in Peru _NOW_ - so hell yes, long live the Peru scene.
I did look to see how to get a .pe domain but it appeared to be one of this lame things where you could only get .com.pe - obviously, not the case.
And, on topic, the concert last night ruled (:
Ok that wasn't on topic.
I did look to see how to get a .pe domain but it appeared to be one of this lame things where you could only get .com.pe - obviously, not the case.
And, on topic, the concert last night ruled (:
Ok that wasn't on topic.
http://www.prophet64.com/index.html and here's the parent frame too :)
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at just under $60 you have a cheap and fairly powerful sid emulation enviroment just without a shiny box and a couple of midi ports.
Good luck convincing the zealots :) Purists tend to believe that the real hardware has more character and so forth. Hell, they even think that they can discern between emulation and a real SID -which is ironic: considering SIDs tend to be "unique", every C64 ought to be subtly different, sound-wise :|
