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• first name: Christian
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• demo Gameboy Color Thing by g0blinish
• Justice thumb for the effort although I strongly disapprove your poor choice of words in previous exchanges with others and in general.
  
  Also, recognize an apology was publicly voiced to you in the midst of unnecessary insults : you were then treated with respect.
  
  Sometimes, nobody is right or wrong : more often than not, life is a series of mishaps. These mishaps are random, do not affect only you, and are certainly not directed against you.
  
  Your next demo will be twice as good I am certain ;)
• rulezadded on the 2014-06-22 14:16:22
• demo MS-Dos 8088 Domination by Hornet [web]
• For the project as a whole. Also a sucker for b/w and 80x. Nice work.
• rulezadded on the 2014-06-16 18:44:43
• 128b MS-Dos Wolf128 by Red Sector Inc. [web]
• Hello AMI,
  
  Thank you for not being one of those "das boot" bashers here and actually enclined to exchanging.
  
  Yes, it is true I stopped reading comments on this prodpage, so to stay "healthy" in my mind and advance. After a few piggies, I nevertheless start to wonder if there is some fire to extinguish though and that is how I came to reading your mildly OK post. All other meaningful queries can be redirected to my email address as I have/will not read them here anymore, and you can blame your usual troll culprits there.
  
  As someone mentionned in the first posts adding an age interval, I am too old to really care about BS anymore or groupwars. RSi was officially declared dead as I typed above from official group history when absorbed in TRSi in 1990. Contrary to your belief Irata is not "the eldest available part of this Group" : I am. And I wasn't absorbed in TRSi, although a decade later I would enter group through another story. I don't agree or recognize any legitimacy to this absorption therefore and don't see any of my old friends in this "magic move" either.
  
  
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  in the spring of 1985, The Skeleton & Baudsurfer set up RSI's first domain, "The Pirates Ship" BBS the following summer, which was one of US's first BBSes. Eventually the Pirates Ship became the "Dawn of Eternity" BBS. At the end of the year, Irata[3] & Mister Zeropage were asked to join the group [...]
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristar_and_Red_Sector_Incorporated
  PS : I see also in addition, in Wikipedia revert history, that since the release of this demo, someone thought it would be funny to "wiggle it" and add "After the initial formation", which is a subject I already alluded to/predicted, along with the previous edits, as for example Irata entering the group in 1986 modified to become afterwards as late 1985 instead : it don't matter one bit to me as Internet is online lie and most importantly I am not against anybody, including yes, the likes of Irata or associated fanboys.
  

  
  
  You do make a valid point though when you state some people "are also proud of their (previous ?) work" : I was ready to discuss the issue and bring forward a satisfiable solution for it before reading the ill-mannered curses : still up for grabs when protagonists stop thinking of themselves only and embrace the big picture. The few can be reassured we will not take credit for prods between 1990 and 2008, they have my word. Please understand though, that this valid point also upholds for myself and my friends though, just to be fair.
  
  Now, as said I took back my first nick of my first nick because : I am entitled to it, I wanted to clarify and simplify the end of my "long journey", I wanted to be able to be reached by co-founders of RSi eventually one day (who knows ?), I have to be true to the real deal, to what really happened then, to myself, to my early friends in the midst of this crazy world. The rest will just have to deal with it and have their own *other* group for almost 25 years now. Their freedom stops where my own begins. Live and let live. All past members will always be honorary members in RSi anyway, even for the much awaited 30th anniversary.
  
  And just to be really really clear : what RSi is engaged nowadays into probably is exclusively tiny prods for now, along assembly language promotion and push for women/kids in scene at demoparties : not cracking, not co-ops (maybe after this first/last one), not war mongering : scene changes, people change, groups' goals change with time. Any size-orientated assembler programmer can contact us btw as stated on our official page.
  
  Anyway, you story is cool too. I hope we get to talk irl one day. Not one story is more important than another, not one person is more elite than the other deep down.
  
  Kind Regards,
  Baudsurfer
• isokadded on the 2014-06-13 20:07:31
• demo Windows XAOC by Bon^2 [web]
• Like candy.
• rulezadded on the 2014-06-09 00:58:41
• demo Atari STe STNICCC2000 Demo by Oxygene [web]
• Speechless.
  Thanks Leonard !
• rulezadded on the 2014-06-09 00:57:51
• 128b MS-Dos Mayan by Red Sector Inc. [web]
• Warhead, third and last night I tried to talk to you :
  
  Quote:

  [21:59] <baudsurfer> [20:20] *** baudsurfer [5b79cbc3@webchat.xs4all.nl] has joined #trsi [20:20] *** baudsurfer g0dislsd xxxxxxxx @xxxxx|xxxxx XxXxxi @xxxxx XxXXxxxx xxxx @xxxx Xxxxxxx @xxxxx @xxxxxxxx @XX @XXXX xxx @xxxxx xxxx __xxxx__ Xxxxx @_docd^TRSi xxxxxxx @xxxxxxxxx X_Xxxxx xxXXxXX Xxxxxxxx [20:20] <baudsurfer> Hello _docd^TRSi wink [20:22] *** mode/#trsi [+o g0dislsd] by CONS [20:36] *** g0dislsd [~warhead@84-114-90-89.dynamic.surfer.at]: yes [20:38] <baudsurfer> Hello g0dislsd .
  [21:59] <baudsurfer> [20:38] <baudsurfer> Hello g0dislsd . [21:35] <g0dislsd> dont fuckin hello me kozmik [21:35] *** mode/#trsi [+b 5b79cbc3!*@webchat.xs4all.nl] by g0dislsd [21:35] *** baudsurfer was kicked from #trsi by g0dislsd [Kick!]

  
  So much for your motto "keep it INTERNAL" forcing us to spill this here.
  
  I'm done with you and your pseudo-eelitness that appeared swiftly out of nowhere when everyone else was getting busted on another continent. I actually learned a lot by exchanging with genuine knowledgeable people these past 4 days of constant smearing... It all makes finally a lot of sense now why you would avoid having any real and calm talk at any cost...
  
  But you need not worry, I'm not like you and I would never hurt a group's image more than you oblige me by revealing the unthinkable. You can continue to quietly fiddle in the dark the Wikipedia entry for Trsi subtly day after day so it fits your wildest imagination, or any other Interweb propaganda glopwhore medium for that matter : it won't change the past.
  
  I would even pity you, knowing what I know now, if I could totally disrespect someone like you are able to do.
  I still forgive you no matter what and wish you well heart-fully but there is no point to contact/troll me ever again until you apologize.
  
  And no. You and Irata have nothing to do with rsi. Your group is Trsi. Period.
• isokadded on the 2014-06-05 23:39:40
• 128b MS-Dos Wolf128 by Red Sector Inc. [web]
• I have been trying to talk to DocD for two nights in a row in his irc group channel to no avail. I will try again tonight.
  Since I was also in Trsi at one point, I have been in that +k channel for 6 years now at least once a week although we have sadly never talked.
  Because thread is derailling constantly it forces one to intervene regularly here.
  
  There is a confusion between Kozmik/Trsi and Baudsurfer/rsi : when Warhead accepted me in Trsi and when Irata kicked me out of Trsi, it was as ex-kozmik/nextempire, not as baudsurfer. I never badged around.
  I accepted Trsi's decision then and I still accept it today. It saddened me sure but that's just the way it goes.
  In fact I have no problem with the hierarchical approach of the so-called warez-scene although as some have posted here it seems sometime anachronic to most and even somewhat counter-productive, but that's another debate.
  
  Now...At the start I'm exclusively with Canadians in rsi, I go back to France, I turn around, and then all of a sudden rsi is supposedly an all German group with people running around yelling "Uber! Uber!" : I don't know what happened.
  Up to this day I don't know what happened still, but I'm caring less and less because there are probably more important issues that appeared since then in the scene and I grew up.
  
  When in rsi we were friends and young at heart. It was about helping others. Frankly some groups were less about demo releasing than having some virtual magic place where we could just be ourselves.
  In particular, rsi was less about demoscene than cracking/spreading, less about cracking/spreading than Philes/Phreaking, and less about Philes/Phreaking than "connecting" with others and sharing.
  
  Like many, it's an everyday struggle to hold on to that spirit nowadays. I don't care about legends or eelite anymore : I care about holding on to the spirit.
  I respect Trsi as a group, but they left rsi dying for over a decade : picking it back up since 2008 is not only legitimate but can only be good for both Trsi, rsi and the demoscene in general.
  Let's move on and bring in more interesting people in this "computer underground culture" (whatever).
• isokadded on the 2014-06-05 08:20:18
• 128b MS-Dos Wolf128 by Red Sector Inc. [web]
• _docd : I'm on IRC in your group's channel atm. Come chat !
• isokadded on the 2014-06-03 23:10:50
• 128b MS-Dos Wolf128 by Red Sector Inc. [web]
• docd,
  
  I forgive you :
  -for insults towards me ;
  -for discouraging peers to like my work ;
  -for hinting at false accusations of stealing code by proxy ;
  -for accusing me to be an impostor ;
  -for implicitly threatening me with physical violence ;
  -for comparing me to someone who distributed a virus in a demo ;
  -for writing emails behind my back to site administrators asking them shun me ;
  -for smearing me and my group and my friends in general.
  
  You most likely have personal issues and I've been there too, so when you sober up and read again what you wrote today publically and feel ashamed, remember I forgave you.
  
  Also rest assured I never "obviously spat in [anybody's] face" (too respectful) nor am I wearing the "wrong jacket" (meaningless). I'd love to talk with you and try to arrange things like Tristar did when they left your group for example even if I'm not German.
  
  But you cannot ask me to abandon the first pseudo of my first group because it's something very precious in my life : I'm sure you understand and feel the same way about your group today.
  
  
  Quote:

  Red Sector was build in spring 1985 by three Canadians called Billy Best, Greg and Kangol Kid. In the summer of 1985 The Skeleton and Baudsurfer were asked to set up RSI's WHQ Pirate's Ship BBS. Supposedly "RSI ran the first Canadian bulletin board EVER!" [4]. End of 1985 /early 1986 Irata (swapper) and Mr Zeropage were asked to join RSI and set up the European section. Later in 1992 Iratas would revive RSI/TRSI [5]. Was a part of The Light Circle. RSI became famous with their legendary demo 'Red Sector Mega Demo' that is still considered a classic to this day. The group's initial foray onto the PC scene involved a productive cooperation with the US PC group, Public Enemy. Red Sector built a co-op with Tristar (Tristar & Red Sector Incorporated) around 1990 on the PC and Amiga. At that time RSI was dead on the C64. RSI was reborn in 1992. In the year 1993 Red Sector was the best 1st release group on the C64. They ruled that year like no-one else. In the year 1995 Three main organizers now, Control, Warhead and Uyanik! German graphician Navy (ex BASF, 12/93) were kicked early in the year, for unknown reasons [6]. In the year 2008 BaudSurfer(TRSi-TDT)reclaimed part of membership in RSI dating back to its BBS creation era in Canada as co-sysop and swapper of Pirate's Ship BBS (TRSi WHQ) along with The Skeleton (TRSi-TDT) [www.phrack.org/issues.html?id=2&issue=44].
  1985 . Red Sector Inc founded on the Commodore 64 in Canada.
  1985 . First WHQ Pirate's Ship BBS is founded in Canada.
  1986 . Red Sector releases on the Amiga
  1990 . Public Enemy founded
  1990 . Public Enemy team up with Red Sector Inc who are now also on the PC
  1990 . On the Amiga Red Sector teams up with Tristar to form TRSI, on the PC they remain separate
  1990 . PE and Red Sector team up with Tristar and The Dream Team : Public Enemy/Tristar Red Sector Inc/Defjam/The Dream Team
  1991 . PE leaves the coalition leaving TRSI/TDT on their own
  1991 . TRSI and The Dream Team part ways
  1994 . Early in the year the group peaks
  1994 . TRSI dies after it's UK members leave to join Legend
  1995 . TRSI on the PC reemerges and then dies again
  2003 . TRS Tristar leaves the coalition / TRSI goes on
  2008 . RSI leaves the coalition / TRSI goes on

• isokadded on the 2014-06-03 19:55:04
• 128b MS-Dos Popcast
• Nice !
• rulezadded on the 2014-06-02 22:41:51