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• general:
• level: user
• personal:
• first name: hehe
• last name: hahahaha
• cdcs:
• cdc #1: a deepness in the sky by mfx [web]
• cdc #2: fr-055: 828 by Farbrausch [web]

• musicdisk Windows trilogy by Insula
• wain/tomaes: what makes this more art then any other musicdisk? it's just a different style.
• isokadded on the 2004-02-22 20:03:58
• invitation Windows LINK 2004 invitation by Pling
• NIKLAS GÖR FIN MUSIK :D
• isokadded on the 2004-02-17 23:25:03
• demo Windows kolonija by kosmoplovci [web]
• the thumb is for part 1.
  make me a video of part 2, my pc sucks and kosmoplovci are my teen idols i have them on a poster beside my bed and i jerk off to D796 every night.
• rulezadded on the 2004-02-17 20:23:01
• musicdisk Windows OldScool Sadness by 7dUMP
• the music was pretty much crap :/
  i guess i could say something constructive but i think the guy just needs some more practice.. this is pretty much how everyone's first tunes sounds like :)
• sucksadded on the 2004-02-11 18:52:35
• intro Windows The End (endtro) by Class
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  Exactly. It wasn't designed after nowadays technology, and alas, there is no one to blame for that.

  
  Yeah I see your point, it was also designed to serve those who themself designed it at the cost of those who didnt have any power.
  
  
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  Besides all that, I tend to think that life is about making the best out of it for yourself

  
  Well isnt the best for yourself not to pay for any software? ;P
  
  
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  Maybe I'm medieval and retarded, but I was raised in this society and even though I am open to discussion and new views, certain things have been engraved in my own system and violation of these values have an impact that goes beyond that what is controllable by thought. Try discussing progressive points of view with elderly people to get an idea of this phenomenon in a nutshell..

  
  I'm painfully aware of this and I hope the day will never come when I'll imediately reject radical ideas... This is personally a very important thing for me too, to not only question everything, but always remember to Consider everything.
  
  
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  Balance of power is often lost in these systems.

  
  Balance is lost Because of power ;)
  
  
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  People have to be controlled and regulated at least a bit, denying this would imply denial of the, not always as charming, human nature. And nature in general, really.

  
  I believe the reason why the "human nature" is so apparent in todays society is just because she actually is under control. Think about it, no one will commit any crimes if everything is allowed because there aren't any crimes to commit :)
  
  
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  I personally don't condemn religious people, but I think religion has had it's best time by now.

  
  My opinion is that the same thing can be said about religion as you said about socialism and communism, in the past all of them have been overshadowed by human egoism.
  
  
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  I'm not a capitalist errand-boy, something most of you like to think...

  
  ...and we're not a bunch of tree-hugging hippies or arrogant "intelectuals" :P
• isokadded on the 2004-01-21 09:40:58
• intro Windows The End (endtro) by Class
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  So, basically, you wouldn't care less if I dropped by your house and took everything you had? Take a minute to reflect on reality. Yes, reality. Ideals are nice, but if I stole your car, really, you wouldn't approve of it. I guess that takes care of your abstract babble that basically comes down to denying the concept of ownership

  
  
  Why don't you think I've reflected on this? Do you think you know me? If there's anything I have that you want I'd be happy to share it with you (but if I'd just let you Take everything it wouldn't be denying of ownership just redistribution of it, no?). I don't think our life styles are much alike but I try to live after my ideals as much as I can, just as you seem to do.
  
  
  
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  A large game title, for example, requires many millions to be invested in order to be produced. We're talking actual *people* like you and me who have to be paid (in order to eat, since they can't blatantly "copy" a bread), we're talking one or more offices to host these people, we're talking hardware that can't just be "copied".. Doesn't that at least make you think for a split second? We're dealing with ordinary products and services here, but for some reason, entertainment products like these do not deserve to exist? If it were for you, music, movies, games and other software would have to disappear in it's current form. This purely because you don't respect the right of the producer to sell his product. Losless reproduction of goods indeed introduces quite a problem regarding our current economical system though.

  
  
  I have as much respect for products like these as any product, but there is a dilema when it comes to "information". It is something that can be crated, spread and consumed without any physical control. I don't deny your right to eat or the existence of entertainment but I believe it's this economical system you're refering to who should take the blame for this problem. To be able to live humans today have to work for gouverments and corporations, we are slaves. The physical control the gouverments and corporations impose through laws, police, military etc work fine on bread, on hardware and offices but it doesnt do so well on the things you hold in your head or on your harddrive and atleast to me this is really good news since im tired of being a SLAVE.
  
  
  
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  The true art is to live with the given limitations. I don't see it as a crime to fit into the system a little, instead of philosophing and whining all day about how things are morally wrong, and that you can't wait for evolution to clean up this mess. I'm getting tired of these so-called intellectuals (because really, you guys aren't that as smart as you'd like to think) who keep ignoring their environment. Progression is reached through hard work, not through sitting around and whining about the reality that surrounds you.

  
  
  Im sorry but I see things totally the other way around. The true art is to live without any limitations, it's not a crime to deny the system and philosophing and whining all day is alot more constructive then killing of and hurting eachother with wars and prisons. I've never claimed to be an intellectual and my belief is that it's You who is ignoring the environment ("you cant own land and you cant eat money"). And what hard work is it that you're refering to that you do? Are you helping progression anything by holding on to your medieval values? Are you politicaly active? Are you really trying to change society or are you just holding on as hard as you can to your DVD:s and your 12":s and your money?
  
  
  
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  Not an argument in any kind of way. Reading a book's content out loud is perfectly legal according to the user's license you implicitly agree with at the time you buy a book. You can also watch a movie you bought with a few friends, or listen to that new CD. This is proper use of the product, and does infringe the producer's right since no value is lost.

  
  
  You're just reciting the law, what is the fundamental difference?
  
  
  
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  Oh and, uhm, does anyone here have a viable idea about how human society should function? If there's a replacement for this web of rules and monetary-egocentrism, tell the world about it. It wouldn't hurt.

  
  
  Try socialism, communism, anarchism, technocratism, religion or just try to start caring a little bit more about people and a little bit less about profit?
• isokadded on the 2004-01-21 08:40:26
• intro Windows The End (endtro) by Class
• "You don't seem to understand the whole point behind (economical) regulation and systems though"
  That's true.
  
  "In the many centuries that have passed, theft of a production funded or owned by someone else remains outlawed..."
  Oh well that's great, let's go back another few centuries shall we and see how this "ownage" was founded. The stone-age man who would just bluntly kill everyone who "trespassed" and tried to "steal" "his" land.. The concept of human propirty is something that solely comes out of the barrel of a gun. The great thing about "information" is that it doesnt obey the laws of physics but can exist in many forms on several different places at the same time, hence i dont even consider copying information theft.
  
  
  "When will you guys learn that software development, just like making movies and producing music, is *not* free, and is a product people sell in order to make a living off."
  People should ofcourse be able to live. But how about the poor artist, the homeless man or the starving farmer in china? Do they not have the equal right to make a living as you do? The reason you cant always make a living out of what you want is not that kids are freely sharing the information you "produced" but the fact that you are born as a slave under society and are not allowed to make your own decisions.
  
  "If you could play a game, memorized it, and reproduced it yourself, that would be perfectly legal."
  So what your saying is that you're allowed to copy as much as you can actually memorize in your head? Then how about reading a book for your children? Neither you or them can memorize the whole book yet you're the only one paying for it.
• isokadded on the 2004-01-21 05:01:25
• intro Windows The End (endtro) by Class
• " Comparing retarded racial and sexual matters with a simple thing called property is a little off the scale.."
  just giving you some of your own medicine... my point was that just because something is outlawed doesnt mean it's "wrong". like maktone said "laws are there to be broken", how else are we going to progress? :)
  
  the production of information is not the information itself. if i steal bread from a baker then his/her production itself is lost. but if i, as you put it, "steal" his or her information by copying it, there's never really any work lost.
  if you tell children a story and they then tell it to their own children when they grow up, is that piracy too?
• isokadded on the 2004-01-20 21:39:58
• 64k Windows scream by Altair
• features like everything you've seen in stash and jish but hey, atleast they do it well :)
• rulezadded on the 2004-01-20 18:09:02
• intro Windows The End (endtro) by Class
• plek: it's also been against the law for coloured people to sit with the white people on the buss, to preform oral sex and to write and say what you want..
  i don't see how i violate your freedom if i make a copy of a game you've made but ofcourse i dont believe that doing such a thing is something worthy of any respect ;)
• isokadded on the 2004-01-20 17:51:03