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Internet-petition: No indexing or blockage of web pages in germany

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childpron = the Al Queda of the internet. A booger that nobody can disagree to isnt evil to the core and should be fought with practically any means avaible. but wait a minute....
added on the 2009-05-09 13:39:11 by NoahR NoahR
The original rationale for the Finnish censorship law, as I understand it, was to block access to foreign sites that that the Finnish police can't shut down. That sort of makes sense, but keeping the list secret makes no sense at all, and if indeed it's used against only foreign child porn sites as it was meant to, then, what's wrong with accountability? If the powers aren't abused then clearly the police should be able to account for how and why they use them, and moreover they should want to account for it, as few things make the police look more heroic to the public than fighting child abuse.

But unsurprisingly, censorship is abused for political and "moral" purposes as it always fucking has and it always fucking will. So what else is new.
added on the 2009-05-09 13:43:08 by doomdoom doomdoom
It is interesting and scary to see, that the governments of countries who call themselve »democratic« (like germany, great britain, usa etc.) and are proud of their democratic rights, throw all of them out of the window when it comes to topics like »Terrorism« or »Child Porn«.

Thanks to all who signed the petition.
added on the 2009-05-09 13:56:42 by gaspode gaspode
Felice: Blocking CP does not help at all. There is no doubt that we all are against CP and if someone would touch my kid, he’d be dead meat! The problem with blocking the content is, it doesn’t keep people from watching it. The sites are still up and there is an easy way around. It’s like having a picture in a galleria with a curtain in front. You only need to peek behind. It would be better to take the picture down.

Problems start somewhere else. It is so obvious that as soon you have established a blocking filter there are so many other sites that could be banned as well. Torrent sites, Fascistic sites, Free speech and the list goes on and on. I probably wouldn’t be against it so bad, if at least a judge would decide if a site is added to the blocking list or not. This is not the case. Only one authority shall maintain the list and that’s the same one who will prosecute you, the police. That is the scary part.
added on the 2009-05-09 14:27:00 by samurai samurai
In germany its election soon, thus they will use anything to profile their party/person..

If it really has any effect or is reasoned does not matter aslong as they gain acceptance of the majority..

Well, we seen so much rule systems till now and none seems to work..
imho it's because humans are not as far developted/evolutioned as their culture/technology is :( We're basically still monkeys :(
Keep in mind that the petition only says "we disagree, don't do it", but it is (of course) not binding for the parliament. The most probably outcome will be some politician (apart from the idiotic minister zu Guttenberg who seems to think the petition is only against blocking CP) making a statement like "we also don't like it, but we have to do it."

But we'll see.
added on the 2009-05-09 14:49:04 by Joghurt Joghurt
Das hier ist aber auch (un)lustig.
added on the 2009-05-09 15:02:27 by tomaes tomaes
@tomaes: Jau, die kenne ich. Und ich frage mich immer noch warum es eine Petition für ein Gesetz gab, das eh eingeführt werden soll.
added on the 2009-05-09 15:20:34 by gaspode gaspode
enough talk!

don't you see, there is only one way...

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added on the 2009-05-09 16:11:15 by button button
Hello: I have no money and no permissions for such a nice rifle :( What rifle is it anyways?
it looks like a Barret M82 rifle...so with firing accurate at up to 3,500 feet, you would not need "permission". :)
added on the 2009-05-09 16:57:00 by button button
i think they are sold legally in the States.
added on the 2009-05-09 16:58:13 by button button
Im German :(
Is there silencers for it?
The Canadian Tac-50 hold record for most far hit (2.5km iirc)
Its a SERBU BFG-50.

And yes, they are legally sold in the States.
added on the 2009-05-09 19:26:00 by T2008 T2008
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added on the 2009-05-09 20:23:17 by havoc havoc
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added on the 2009-05-09 21:39:59 by kb_ kb_
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added on the 2009-05-09 22:28:16 by ham ham
Wow, there are now over 65000 people signed up for the petition against the Internet filter...
added on the 2009-05-09 23:16:20 by samurai samurai
But even if that's enough to make a difference, there are much deeper problems when politicians need this kind of persuasion all the time. Yet the best you can hope for is a "oh well, guess this would hurt us too much in the polls, so we'll try something more subtle next time".

They'll probably just do what the UK government did on internet surveillance, and push for an EU resolution that requires all EU countries to comply with equivalent laws. Then it won't be their fault anymore, and as a free bonus they get to dismiss all the calls for a referendum.
added on the 2009-05-10 00:04:37 by doomdoom doomdoom

Brainwashing, anyone?
added on the 2009-05-10 01:13:02 by kurli kurli

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added on the 2009-05-10 01:13:33 by kurli kurli
Oh and this is one of my favourites aswell:
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It's more 1984 than 1984 itself! :)
added on the 2009-05-10 01:15:11 by kurli kurli
Brainwashing, anyone?

The funny thing is that there are perfectly good reasons for studying CCTV cameras. Simply being inquisitive and trying to form an opinion on whether or not Big Brother is getting a little too nosy, for example. Or, maybe you want to make sure they're working so there's no conveniently missing footage next time the police execute a random innocent civilian. :P
added on the 2009-05-10 02:54:07 by doomdoom doomdoom
Heh, and yes, you'd think that watchful eyes poster was satire, wouldn't you. But it's not.
added on the 2009-05-10 02:57:32 by doomdoom doomdoom


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