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what's wrong with blackmission ???

category: general [glöplog]
 
recently i read several prod comments from blackmission stating that it was lame to alter werkkzeug1's loader.

is it illegal to do so ? did the prods really alter the loader or is it an option offered by the tool ?

since i never use werkkzeug1 myself, i would be glad if someone could enlight me
i think he is clueless..
added on the 2006-09-01 12:37:57 by uns3en_ uns3en_
What I think he/she means is that it's lame to hide the fact that you are using WZ by altering the loader (and indeed it is). I haven't seen the prod that is commented so I'm just guessing here.
added on the 2006-09-01 15:02:18 by El Topo El Topo
i would say its a plus to hack the loading.. since we all know how it looks by now, something else is welcome.
and its not like they're claiming it not to be WZ.. O_o

conclusion: russian scene soap opera.
added on the 2006-09-01 15:04:40 by psenough psenough
as long as there are proper credits in the nfo, i guess it's ok to hack the loading screen
Time for the usual conspiracy theories!

The interesting thing about blackmission is that he started his pouet career only to thumb up Scimitar productions.

Now the interesting thing about Scimitar is the following: Not only that whoever's behind is is a dumb asshole which no human being in its right mind would enjoy contanct with, no, even worse:

In their Hooper demo (which was not even bad) they not only changed the .wz1's resolution selector, but, worse: they actively removed the copyright info from the loader bar. Which is btw illegal, but that's Chaos'/Fiver2's problem, not mine ;)

And now there comes this guy who's clearly affiliated with the pile of shit that is Scimitar, and thumbs down others prods for minimal modifications of wz1's intro runtime. Although the ppl flamed have clearly stated that they made their intros with wz1, which scimitar on the other hand did NOT.

There is something seriously fishy here, if you ask me, ladies and gentlemen.
added on the 2006-09-01 16:40:31 by kb_ kb_
And Farbrausch killed the demoscene.....
added on the 2006-09-01 16:45:19 by Zplex Zplex
was meaning to point out the scimitar-relation before, according to the logic behind the votes.
looks like someone's been ticked off really bad because of version .3 of a certain tool, whatever the real reason might be behind there. =)
added on the 2006-09-01 16:47:45 by dalezr dalezr
i'd like to apologize hereby for the behaviour of my nationals as it seems to be really shameful and disturbing. this, though, does not mean that i in any way want you ( fr ) not to take legal actions or make a reproof if you feel like that. just to point that out, i have nothing to do with aforementioned groups, individuals and productions. sorry.
added on the 2006-09-01 17:52:43 by apricot apricot
then why apologize? it's not like there's any reason to have anything against all russians :-)

(hell, we all saw the last cc06 prods and they make me only like y'all more :-)
added on the 2006-09-01 19:18:28 by skrebbel skrebbel
in soviet russia nationals apologize YOU
i still think the ip's of users should be displayed.
added on the 2006-09-01 19:38:15 by Gargaj Gargaj
I hereby proclaim 01-09 russian national apologize day.
sorry.
added on the 2006-09-01 19:53:49 by bhead bhead
whyever you russians are complaining now... AFAIK blackmission and scimitar are both German, and as I said - I don't think anybody minds changing the loader bar / res select screen somewhat, as long as credits/copyrightinfos stay intact, which they did in both of the intros.

So, chill. Everyone. :)
added on the 2006-09-01 20:02:12 by kb_ kb_
I'm not complaining at all 8)
added on the 2006-09-01 20:54:23 by bhead bhead
ehrm... "apologizing" i meant. yeah. argh. ;)
added on the 2006-09-01 20:57:00 by kb_ kb_
Told you, demotools/introtools are evil! ;)
added on the 2006-09-01 20:57:08 by keops keops
dude demoscene itself is evil :)
added on the 2006-09-01 21:13:26 by decipher decipher
mysql> select distinct accesslog.userip from accesslog left join accesslog as accesslog2 on accesslog.userip=accesslog2.userip where accesslog.userID=18444 and accesslog.userip!='' and accesslog2.userID=11250;
+-----------------+
| userip |
+-----------------+
| 172.158.43.xxx |
| 172.174.178.xxx |
| 172.174.59.xxx |
+-----------------+
3 rows in set (36.32 sec)

mysql> use pouet
Reading table information for completion of table and column names
You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A

Database changed
mysql> update users set level="fakeuser" where id=18444;
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.06 sec)
Rows matched: 1 Changed: 1 Warnings: 0


just so you know.
added on the 2006-09-01 21:49:09 by psenough psenough
mysql> select distinct accesslog.userip from accesslog left join accesslog as accesslog2 on accesslog.userip=accesslog2.userip where accesslog.userID=20095 and accesslog.userip!='' and accesslog2.userID=11250;
+---------------+
| userip |
+---------------+
| 172.174.59.xxx |
+---------------+
1 row in set (29.16 sec)

mysql> use pouet
Reading table information for completion of table and column names
You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A

Database changed
mysql> update users set level="fakeuser" where id=20095;
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.02 sec)
Rows matched: 1 Changed: 1 Warnings: 0


-_-
added on the 2006-09-01 21:53:41 by psenough psenough
mysql> select distinct accesslog.userip from accesslog left join accesslog as accesslog2 on accesslog.userip=accesslog2.userip where accesslog.userID=chuck and accesslog.userip!='' and accesslog2.userID=norris;
+---------------+
| userip |
+---------------+
| 257.257.257.xxx |
+---------------+
1 row in set (0.01 sec)

mysql> use pouet
Reading table information for completion of table and column names
You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A

Database changed
mysql> update users set level="administrator" where id=norris;
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.02 sec)
Rows matched: 1 Changed: 1 Warnings: 0

just so you know.
added on the 2006-09-02 00:32:34 by bartman bartman
right, that made me look like a fool :D hooray everybody \o/ :)
added on the 2006-09-02 09:35:49 by apricot apricot

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