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Demovibes - electronic grooves from the bigscreen

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I often use CueTools but it's for lossy formats, Foobar2000 will happily split mp3/cue aswell but re-encoding is going to produce a little degredation in quality. There was some extensive discussion on the HydrogenAudio forums about splitting mp3/cue with as little quality loss as possible, I think there's a tool that does direct file cutting somewhere but most of the times I just use cue tools or foobar, I guess it just depends how anal you want to get about audio integrity preservation :)
added on the 2011-05-26 13:21:15 by keito keito
hmm maybe willbe could address that by providing an additional zip archive with files split from the original loseless wav? willbe what do you think?
hey keito thx you're ace

your insightful answer just made me google for more tools, focusing on direct mp3 stream editing with no decoding/re-encoding

found mp3trimmer http://www.deepniner.net/mp3trimmer/ and it seems to work like a charm so far so yay
Ah fuck je pensais que ce thread se réveillait pour annoncer un nouveau numéro de Demovibes...
added on the 2011-05-26 15:17:19 by faraday faraday
nice one ♻, that tool looks like it will do the trick for you :)
added on the 2011-05-26 18:41:06 by keito keito
Small world, I used to admin HydrogenAudio before I got back into the ole scene again.

IIRC mp3directcut was the way to go as it cut on frame edge boundaries, so couldn't do a millisecond accurate cut due to mp3 framing, but was lossless as it didn't re-encode at any point.

I would say double check this though, it has been a LONG time since I looked into this!
added on the 2011-05-26 19:00:07 by rc55 rc55
I've tried mp3directcut and mp3splt, but as far as I remember, they didn't give gapless mp3s, the solution that worked for me was:
Properly Cut MP3 GUI
It requires java but I think it's worth it. The downside is that you'll have to recreate ID3 tags, that sucks a bit, but really, having gapless mp3s is worth the hassle.
But, I'm no expert, so I don't know if it does the cutting properly, worked for me so far :)
added on the 2011-05-26 19:18:53 by Tomoya Tomoya
having listened to my sliced demovibes, yeah sometimes transition from one track to another is seemless, sometimes it's not...

what I fail to figure out is: I don't care the cut happens at a precise millisecond; shouldn't the playback be ALWAYS gapless if some mp3 ends at a certain frame in the original file and the next mp3 file starts at the next frame?
@0x100: well MP3 was not designed for gapless playback, some working combinations are mentioned on the wikipedia
added on the 2011-05-27 10:32:04 by RufUsul RufUsul
@Tomoya > thx for pointing out properly cut mp3 gui, lead me to http://code.google.com/p/pcutmp3/ and so far does a better job than mp3trimmer or fission
Easiest answer : demovibes mixes have not been designed to be sliced.
Saddest answer : if i've been smarter i would have released flac files.
(read: too late, i've flushed the wav sources a long time ago)
added on the 2011-05-27 12:05:08 by willbe willbe
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added on the 2015-04-04 04:19:10 by D.Fox D.Fox
Instant need!
added on the 2015-04-04 08:58:31 by fra fra
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added on the 2015-04-05 20:24:05 by numtek numtek
"Originally designed to fit each volume on 80 minutes Audio CDs, its aim is to reach new audiences, external from demoscene."

Actually in that spirit I also made my annual "In-The-Mix" podcasts for Bitjam. In fact they are a continuation of the Demovibes, since they stopped around 2010. Plus I also make an annual mix of compo music (plus the last two years of the remix releases):

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Bitjam already has my demoscene mix for 2014 in the pipeline and a "retro" mix of the 2009 demos.
added on the 2015-04-06 23:21:20 by Salinga Salinga
Great job !
Now linked here.
added on the 2015-04-07 08:00:44 by willbe willbe
Return of the track list nitpicker (Coincidentally, it's awesome to see Demovibes back!):

Blaizer appears as "Blazer" on the cuesheet.
added on the 2015-04-07 11:49:09 by raina raina
yay :)

np: Various artists - Demovibes 11 "Demovibes 11"
Cue sheet corrected, thanks Raina :)
added on the 2015-04-07 21:30:33 by willbe willbe
Thanks for your support! :)

The nick is actually "Salinga" for the mixes, not LDASTA - thats just the name of the Mixcloud account.
added on the 2015-04-08 12:13:55 by Salinga Salinga


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