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rajah: that's cool but given the history behind that particular production i'd say it belongs on pouet anyway
added on the 2019-08-12 22:21:37 by havoc havoc
That's not cool and this entry was registered without my agreement. I repeat this desk application/toy is not demoscene and does not belong to this website and demozoo.
added on the 2019-08-12 23:01:54 by Rajah Rajah
pouët != scene && scene != pouët
added on the 2019-08-13 00:11:30 by havoc havoc
When adding an entry in the Animation/Video category, in addition to the obligatory link(s) I added a link to the video that can be easily watched online on Streamable.

But the link got removed with the explanation that " no :: as per the FAQ: we don't collect streamable links ", quite confusing (at least to me :) ).

First, I honestly wasn't able to find anything against Streamable (or anything similar) in the FAQs and second, I see links to YouTube / Vimeo all the time: I'd expect a link to the exact same type of service (and ad free! & better in some aspects, at least for now) would be allowed too for people who don't want to download stuff.

So is there simply a consensus that I'm not aware of, along the lines of "only YT/V are allowed and nothing else no matter what"? :)
added on the 2019-08-13 06:33:23 by eau eau
no, see https://www.pouet.net/faq.php#faq45 for a list of link types that we do collect. in this binary world i assume you can deduct the rest by yourself :)
added on the 2019-08-13 11:07:06 by havoc havoc
I repeat my demand: please remove this entry. Done by another guy, without my consent. I never participate to a demo/gamedev/graphic competition. This addition is wrong.
added on the 2019-08-13 11:33:23 by Rajah Rajah
rajah: go talk to lotek about it
added on the 2019-08-13 14:12:30 by havoc havoc
havoc: strange but hey :) Anyway I added a link to Vimeo (still pending). Thanks for the reply!
added on the 2019-08-13 15:29:26 by eau eau
Havoc: lotek fails ans does not respond on IRC and runs away on my request. So, please, remove my crap, it does not belong to the demoscene realm nor this website no demozoo.org.
added on the 2019-08-13 20:44:36 by Rajah Rajah
rajah: go talk to lotek about it
added on the 2019-08-13 21:40:21 by havoc havoc
havoc: alright the vimeo link got through.

I'd argue that what I did originally should still work, especially since the same FAQ you linked to ends up with a not-that binary part "The above list is by no means complete, it's only supposed to give you some pointers. Keep in mind that we are going for a minimalistic approach, please consider whether the link you're trying to add is of any interest to others !" but I guess there are reasons why Streamable is not accepted so fair enough. btw don't you know that "non-binary" stuff is all the rage on Twitter nowadays (don't forget to declare your personal pronoun for extra coolness)!

Anyway thanks again for your reply, in the future I'll just post the link to Vimeo and maybe add a link to Streamable in the comments, that should work.
added on the 2019-08-14 02:42:34 by eau eau
eau: With all due respect, what you're arguing is wishful thinking for the most part. See, lots of users come up with arguments that boil down to "X should be allowed because Y is also allowed". But to us that can not be an argument at all because you could make the same argument about dozens if not hundreds of other online streaming services (etc) and collecting every possible type of link clearly doesn't match with the minimalist (aka maintainable) approach that this site has employed successfully for 19 years now. Perhaps staff at Demozoo is more inclined to collect and maintain links to "other" streaming services, I'm not sure, but it could be worth a shot perhaps.
added on the 2019-08-14 05:00:45 by havoc havoc
Makes sense. Sorry for the trouble. Keep up the good work and thanks :)
added on the 2019-08-14 05:28:24 by eau eau
Havoc : lotek won't listen to me. He's conscious he'd made a mistake but does not want to acknowledge it. Last time I encountered him on IRC, he put me in the same bag as C-Rem qualified as ripper and after that lotek flew from IRC. I don't care if Lotek is nice or naughtly, but what he made about me and my softwares is not right.
I repeat my crap is not demoscene stuff and must be removed from pouet.net and demozoo.org. These additions were made without my consent. Please answer to my request and don't discard the discussion or contacting lotek. What is more important, the author of the software or the archiver?
added on the 2019-08-14 11:31:13 by Rajah Rajah
rajah: Nah, sorry, stepping in a conflict between you and Lotek is way above my pay grade on this site, so I won't do that.
added on the 2019-08-14 13:31:29 by havoc havoc
Havoc: this is not a conflict, lotek runs away when I ask him to remove my stuff. So I have no other solution to ask the admins/modos to do the job.
Once again, please remove my stuff from pouet and demozoo: my crap is not scene stuff, it is outdated and registered withtout my agreement.
added on the 2019-08-14 17:40:25 by Rajah Rajah
registered withtout my agreement.

I'll push back on this one bit - we don't need your agreement to have a page to discuss your prod. The prod entry on Pouet doesn't host the entry itself, just the metadata of the entry, and discussion of the entry, the same way a film or music discussion site would host basic info about the original pieces, and then threads that discuss that particular piece.
added on the 2019-08-14 18:25:29 by Gargaj Gargaj
Gargaj: This prod was not released for the demo scene, not even as an entry for a demo competition. This prod is out of this scene. Does not belong to it. Please remove it.
added on the 2019-08-14 23:14:05 by Rajah Rajah
rajah: My question would be if you consider yourself a demoscener and then follow with a discussion whether stuff released by a scene entity (group or individual) regardless of context is always relevant to pouet/dz or not. Those questions are not new, but maybe we need an FAQable consensus here? :)

(and yes, there's tons of non-scene stuff on dz added by lotek. but this is the wrong place to discuss that)
added on the 2019-08-15 13:03:40 by tomaes tomaes
There is a problem with this prod: seems like dupe of this one.
added on the 2019-08-16 18:23:56 by 100bit 100bit
...and this one seems like a dupe of this. Actually vice versa but the second one have a single executable file instead of a demodisk.
added on the 2019-08-16 21:49:46 by 100bit 100bit
Could someone remove the preview image on this prod, so I can replace it with a more high-res one? The current one ended up looking a lot smaller than I thought.
added on the 2019-08-18 12:48:57 by slerpy slerpy
is it possible to merge user accounts ?
if the answer is yes, please merge
https://www.pouet.net/user.php?who=98152 (the actual one)

if the answer is 42, go ahead.
added on the 2019-08-18 19:42:58 by Virgill Virgill


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